[digitalradio] Re: Another plug for JT65A ... the spectrum efficient mode
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker, WØJAB w0...@... wrote: Just * how many * modes would like to put on one frequency at a time? If the frequency is in use then find another. That's just the point. There isn't another. The space we have to use on HF is limited. All the frequencies we have are already being used by somebody. Look at all the trouble ROS mode has had trying to find a place to operate that didn't upset somebody. We should be looking to develop better narrower modes that allow more people to make contacts using the space we have, instead of wide ones which will simply create conflict by forcing existing users into ever narrower corners of the available spectrum. Most people are not interested in experimenting with new modes. They just want to make contacts using the modes we already have. They don't take kindly to being squeezed off the bands by new wideband modes and I entirely understand and sympathize with that. Julian, G4ILO
[digitalradio] Re: Message via HF (Winmor)
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, aa777888athotmaildotcom aa777...@... wrote: Nevertheless, if you are in an internet denied area (no wireline or commercial wireless) you can now send and receive internet email over HF and do it WITHOUT a $1000 Pactor modem. Does that include email from non-hams and messages of a commercial nature? Julian, G4ILO
[digitalradio] Narrow modes/spectrum efficiency
Julian, I agree. That is why I think we should be trying to encourage hams to use a standard mode to call CQ , then switch modes based on conditions, rather than each mode expect to establish a group of typical calling frequencies . Since RTTY, PSK31, and JT65A are so well established , I'd leave them alone . However, the other digital modes (and future ones) should consolidate frequencies and agree on a narrow default calling mode. ALE400 is the mostly likely candidate. Andy K3UK On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:14 AM, g4ilo jul...@g4ilo.com wrote: That's just the point. There isn't another. The space we have to use on HF is limited. All the frequencies we have are already being used by somebody. Look at all the trouble ROS mode has had trying to find a place to operate that didn't upset somebody. We should be looking to develop better narrower modes that allow more people to make contacts using the space we have, instead of wide ones which will simply create conflict by forcing existing users into ever narrower corners of the available spectrum. Most people are not interested in experimenting with new modes. They just want to make contacts using the modes we already have. They don't take kindly to being squeezed off the bands by new wideband modes and I entirely understand and sympathize with that. Julian, G4ILO
[digitalradio] Email via ham radio...
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:19 AM, g4ilo jul...@g4ilo.com wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, aa777888athotmaildotcom aa777...@... wrote: Nevertheless, if you are in an internet denied area (no wireline or commercial wireless) you can now send and receive internet email over HF and do it WITHOUT a $1000 Pactor modem. Does that include email from non-hams and messages of a commercial nature? Julian, G4ILO _ That raises an interesting point Julian. I raised the same thing about PSKMAIL, that it could potentially transmit emails that many hams are prohibited from sending. Here in the USA, when such matters were the concern of Packet BBS sysops, the onus was placed on the Sysop to ensure compliance with rules. With Winmor, you can't see your incoming email until after it fully arrives, so no pulling the plug mid stream if a prohibited item is transmitted. With PSKmail, you could stop if something was not within the rules.. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Live webcasts from UK Space Conference
-- Forwarded message -- From: Mike Terry miketerr...@btinternet.com Date: Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:50 AM Subject:] Live webcasts from UK Space Conference There will be live webcasts Friday and Saturday from the UK Space Conference being held at the Charterhouse School in Goldaming, Surrey. There will be a number of CubeSat and satellite related presentations. The live webcasts can be seen at http://www.space.co.uk/UKSpaceConference2010/LiveWebCasts/tabid/817/Default.aspx UK Space Conference UKSC 2010 Twitter: http://twitter.com/UKSC2010 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12966340553# !/group.php?v=wallgid=12966340553 Web: http://www.ukspaceconference.org/ (Southgate http://www.southgatearc.org/news/march2010/space_conference_webcast.htm )
[digitalradio] Re: Message via HF (Winmor)
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, g4ilo jul...@... wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, aa777888athotmaildotcom aa777888@ wrote: Nevertheless, if you are in an internet denied area (no wireline or commercial wireless) you can now send and receive internet email over HF and do it WITHOUT a $1000 Pactor modem. Does that include email from non-hams and messages of a commercial nature? Julian, G4ILO For U.S. hams the answers are yes and no respectively. However the Winlink system does not monitor and censor messages to my knowledge. I suspect every once in a while people get nabbed passing commercial traffic however in this day and age those who are in the business of being in business have much better ways of passing email traffic. I would encourage people to explore the winlink.org site to learn more about Winlink and how messages go between it and the internet. Also to certainly try Winmor if for no other reason than to learn about how it works and have a Winlink account setup just in case.
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Message via HF (Winmor)
But do we want to clog up the HF bands with posts to Yahoo groups and such ? 73 - Bill KA8VIT Very cool, Andy, sending a message to the Yahoo Group via Winmor and the Winlink Global HF Email System! _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2
Re: [digitalradio] Re: KB1OOQ-5 back ON-LINE (Comcast comes through)
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:06:38AM -, aa777888athotmaildotcom wrote: Pretty good, those Comcast folks. Expensive as hell, but good. Fixed in an hour and before bedtime, even :-) Very unusual to have an outage, actually, especially with no weather in the area. In 10 years I can count them on the fingers of one hand. So, fewer than 32, then. Never trust a man who can count to 1023 on his fingers. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin
[digitalradio] Re: KB1OOQ-5 back ON-LINE (Comcast comes through)
Math humor...nooo :) --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, mikea mi...@... wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:06:38AM -, aa777888athotmaildotcom wrote: Pretty good, those Comcast folks. Expensive as hell, but good. Fixed in an hour and before bedtime, even :-) Very unusual to have an outage, actually, especially with no weather in the area. In 10 years I can count them on the fingers of one hand. So, fewer than 32, then. Never trust a man who can count to 1023 on his fingers. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@... Tired old sysadmin
Re: [digitalradio] Re: KB1OOQ-5 back ON-LINE (Comcast comes through)
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:41:19 -0500, mikea mi...@mikea.ath.cx said: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:06:38AM -, aa777888athotmaildotcom wrote: Very unusual to have an outage, actually, especially with no weather in the area. In 10 years I can count them on the fingers of one hand. So, fewer than 32, then. Never trust a man who can count to 1023 on his fingers. Mike, my right pinky is the LSB and I'm having trouble with numbers like 811. Bit swapping doesn't help! Do you play the guitar? :) -- 73, Stelios, M0GLD.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: KB1OOQ-5 back ON-LINE (Comcast comes through)
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 02:19:00PM +, Stelios Bounanos wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:41:19 -0500, mikea mi...@mikea.ath.cx said: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:06:38AM -, aa777888athotmaildotcom wrote: Very unusual to have an outage, actually, especially with no weather in the area. In 10 years I can count them on the fingers of one hand. So, fewer than 32, then. Never trust a man who can count to 1023 on his fingers. Mike, my right pinky is the LSB and I'm having trouble with numbers like 811. Bit swapping doesn't help! Do you play the guitar? :) Serious (concert-grade) classical guitarist and lutenist; started learning in 1957, and try to practice at least an hour a day every day. 811 is (MSB ... LSB) 11001 01011 It's difficult to get the ring fungers all the way up without extending the second finger, because of the way the tendons work. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin
RE: [digitalradio] Re: KB1OOQ-5 back ON-LINE (Comcast comes through)
There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that do not ! 73 - Bill KA8VIT To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com From: aa777...@hotmail.com Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:10:31 + Subject: [digitalradio] Re: KB1OOQ-5 back ON-LINE (Comcast comes through) Math humor...nooo :) --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, mikea mi...@... wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:06:38AM -, aa777888athotmaildotcom wrote: Pretty good, those Comcast folks. Expensive as hell, but good. Fixed in an hour and before bedtime, even :-) Very unusual to have an outage, actually, especially with no weather in the area. In 10 years I can count them on the fingers of one hand. So, fewer than 32, then. Never trust a man who can count to 1023 on his fingers. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@... Tired old sysadmin http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and spots all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/
[digitalradio] RTTY event tonight
playing tonight only I will be on 40 meters tonight with the Kenwood 520 and the 28ASR, ST-6 TU. Why? Because I can !
RE: [digitalradio] Re: KB1OOQ-5 back ON-LINE (Comcast comes through)
And as Dorothy once said on the Wizard of Oz as she tapped her ruby slippers together - there is no place like 127.0.0.1 Rick - KH2DF From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Box SixteenHundred Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:44 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: KB1OOQ-5 back ON-LINE (Comcast comes through) There are only 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary and those that do not ! 73 - Bill KA8VIT To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com From: aa777...@hotmail.com Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:10:31 + Subject: [digitalradio] Re: KB1OOQ-5 back ON-LINE (Comcast comes through) Math humor...nooo :) --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, mikea mi...@... wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 03:06:38AM -, aa777888athotmaildotcom wrote: Pretty good, those Comcast folks. Expensive as hell, but good. Fixed in an hour and before bedtime, even :-) Very unusual to have an outage, actually, especially with no weather in the area. In 10 years I can count them on the fingers of one hand. So, fewer than 32, then. Never trust a man who can count to 1023 on his fingers. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@... Tired old sysadmin http://www.obriensweb.com/digispotter.html Chat, Skeds, and spots all in one (resize to suit)Yahoo! Groups Links _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/
RE: [digitalradio] RTTY event tonight
What hours?? Bob, W5XR From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Becker, WØJAB Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:40 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] RTTY event tonight playing tonight only I will be on 40 meters tonight with the Kenwood 520 and the 28ASR, ST-6 TU. Why? Because I can !
RE: [digitalradio] RTTY event tonight
About 7ish (CDST) At 02:52 PM 3/26/2010, you wrote: What hours?? Bob, W5XR
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Message via HF (Winmor)
No, I think not. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Box SixteenHundred box1...@hotmail.comwrote: But do we want to clog up the HF bands with posts to Yahoo groups and such ? 73 - Bill KA8VIT Very cool, Andy, sending a message to the Yahoo Group via Winmor and the Winlink Global HF Email System! -- Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. Sign up now.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2
