Re: [digitalradio] 300 baud limit open to change Re: FCC Denies Digital Stone Age Petition

2008-05-09 Thread Simon Brown
There's also some 'I live outside the US but still feel your pain'. I'm with 
you in spirit(s).

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: johnhutchinsusa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 There is a lot of

 I only care what you think if you agree with me!

 on this forum, which is one reason I don't hang around much.
 



[digitalradio] 300 baud limit open to change Re: FCC Denies Digital Stone Age Petition

2008-05-08 Thread expeditionradio
 Mark N5RFX wrote:
 I am disappointed that the  FCC did not elaborate on the 
 purpose of Section 97.307(f) which limits specified 
 RTTY or data emissions to a symbol rate not to 
 exceed 300 bauds...
 Why is that there?
 The FCC has spoken and the status quo prevails. 
 
Hi Mark,

This FCC order means so much more than affirmation 
of the status quo. 

It gives us a rare window of observation into FCC's 
internal trends toward support for modernization 
and progress. 

It very significantly shows the willingness of the 
FCC to open the door to change in several areas 
toward digital advancement and away from prior 
technologically adverse, artificial, or archaic 
constraints.

It now seems quite clear from FCC's considered and 
reasoned statements in the petition denial order, 
that the only reason the 300 baud limit still 
exists is as a remnant of past history that serves 
no useful purpose in today's digital communications
technology.

As you know, it is common in USA for antiquated 
blue laws to continue on the books, while   
being effectively rendered useless or obsolete due 
to changes in society or advancements in technology. 

Congratulations, and on behalf of the majority of 
the greater amateur radio community, we thank you 
very much for your petition, Mark. 

A result of it is that we may possibly better 
project the possible outcome of future FCC rulemaking 
opportunities, within perhaps a wider venue, to 
include abolishment of baud limits altogether. 

Indeed, baud limit is now considered not simply 
superfluous, but counterproductive to the 
primary purpose of USA's Amateur Radio Service 
toward advancement of the radio art.
 
73 Bonnie KQ6XA



 At 08:47 PM 5/7/2008, expeditionradio wrote:
 In FCC's official consideration statements, FCC
 specifically supports no finite limit of bandwidth for
 digital data emissions for the amateur radio service. 
  FCC said that imposition of such limits might 
 impede experimentation and technological innovation. 



[digitalradio] 300 baud limit open to change Re: FCC Denies Digital Stone Age Petition

2008-05-08 Thread expeditionradio
 bruce wa4gch wrote: 

 So does this meen we can junk 99% of all ham stations 
 for your idea of what ham radio should be? 


Ha ha, Bruce! Good one. 

Seriously, though, this is more of a rejection of 
backward-thinking attempts to stifle USA hams' future
while the rest of the world passes us by.

73 Bonnie KQ6XA



[digitalradio] 300 baud limit open to change Re: FCC Denies Digital Stone Age Petition

2008-05-08 Thread johnhutchinsusa
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, expeditionradio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  bruce wa4gch wrote: 
 
  So does this meen we can junk 99% of all ham stations 
  for your idea of what ham radio should be? 
 
 
 Ha ha, Bruce! Good one. 
 
 Seriously, though, this is more of a rejection of 
 backward-thinking attempts to stifle USA hams' future
 while the rest of the world passes us by.
 
 73 Bonnie KQ6XA


Bruce makes a serious point.

There is a lot of

I only care what you think if you agree with me!  

on this forum, which is one reason I don't hang around much.

73,
John WB4NNY



Re: [digitalradio] 300 baud limit open to change Re: FCC Denies Digital Stone Age Petition

2008-05-08 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
And if this became law we in the USA would be sitting
back watching while the rest of the world operated the modes
that we now could not. 

Bonnie makes a very good point when she say we would 
be back in the stone age.

John, W0JAB

At 10:05 PM 5/8/2008, John WB4NNY wrote:
Bruce makes a serious point.

There is a lot of

I only care what you think if you agree with me!  

on this forum, which is one reason I don't hang around much.

73,
John WB4NNY



Re: [digitalradio] 300 baud limit open to change Re: FCC Denies Digital Stone Age Petition

2008-05-08 Thread Sholto Fisher
Hello Bonnie,

I was wondering if you could bring me ( others in the group) up-to-date 
with your MIL 188-141A ALE experiments? specifically I would be be 
interested in knowing how most messages are passed? are they AMD/DBM or 
DTM? The only ALE signals I have heard recently (at least on 30m) have 
been soundings. Is the system now integrated into Winlink 2000? if so, 
what would be a simple procedure to send a message addressed to an 
internet email destination?

Also, is there any use of the ARQ FAE semi-duplex mode? it seems to me 
this is one of the most powerful yet underused methods of exchanging 
messages on HF - especially in the 400Hz version of the mode.

73, Sholto
KE7HPV