Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-02 Thread Curt Givens
Andy, good news I guess can we now resume regularly scheduled programing ;)

de Curt KC8STE 73

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
Subject: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS
To: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 7:06 PM

From Jose's web site
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
By José Alberto Nieto Ros
It ended the controversy about whether ROS is legal in USA or not. For
which they insisted on it was illegal: “A mamarla”

The case you submitted via the FCC has been resolved. The resolution
details for Case ID HD001311878 are below.
If you have any questions contact us at (877) 480-3201
Thank You!

Summary* : Request for clarification of ROS Digital Mode
Description* : Some days ago, Timothy J. Lilley got in touch with the
FCC to clarify the legality of the digital mode that I created. This
person gave the FCC without my permission and consent an incorrect and
incomplete documentation, which is inconsistent with the
characteristics of the digital mode.
I attach the technical description of ROS written by its developer and
an audio file for you to judge the legality of ROS in USA.
If it is no longer possible, I take legal action against Timothy J. Lilley.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Sincerely,
Jose Alberto Nieto Ros
Telecommunication Engineer

Solution Details : Dear Mr. Nieto,

As I reported Timothy J. Lilley, the licensee of the station
transmitting the emission is responsible for determining that the
operation of the station complies with the rules.

According to the technical paper and the audio file attached, we
conclude that ROS can not be viewed as Spread Spectrum and it would be
encompassed within the section 97.309 (RTTY and data emissions codes).

FCC Committee will remain outside of any legal action you decide to take.

Should you have any further questions, or need additional information,
please contact the ULS Customer Support Hotline at (877) 480-3201
(877) 480-3201, selecting option 2.
Sincerely,
Agent 3820




Try Hamspots, PSKreporter, and K3UK Sked Page 
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Suggesting calling frequencies: Modes 500Hz 3583,7073,14073,18103, 
21073,24923, 28123 .  Wider modes e.g. Olivia 32/1000, ROS16, ALE: 14109.7088.
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Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-02 Thread Dave
As for me, I'll wait until I hear it from someone more official than a customer 
service agent.  Agent 3820 is not a FCC federal agent, but rather a customer 
service agent who will only base their opinion on what is right in front of 
themsame as the earlier ruling that it was illegal.  

Let's hear it from the lawyers and engineers first, then I'll feel more 
comfortable.


Dave
K3DCW

Real radio bounces off the sky







On 2 Mar, at 12:15 PM, Curt Givens wrote:

 --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
 Subject: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS
 To: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 7:06 PM
 
 From Jose's web site
 http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
 FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
 By José Alberto Nieto Ros
 It ended the controversy about whether ROS is legal in USA or not. For
 which they insisted on it was illegal: “A mamarla”
 
 The case you submitted via the FCC has been resolved. The resolution
 details for Case ID HD001311878 are below.
 If you have any questions contact us at (877) 480-3201
 Thank You!
 
 Summary* : Request for clarification of ROS Digital Mode
 Description* : Some days ago, Timothy J. Lilley got in touch with the
 FCC to clarify the legality of the digital mode that I created. This
 person gave the FCC without my permission and consent an incorrect and
 incomplete documentation, which is inconsistent with the
 characteristics of the digital mode.
 I attach the technical description of ROS written by its developer and
 an audio file for you to judge the legality of ROS in USA.
 If it is no longer possible, I take legal action against Timothy J. Lilley.
 I look forward to hearing from you soon.
 Sincerely,
 Jose Alberto Nieto Ros
 Telecommunication Engineer
 
 Solution Details : Dear Mr. Nieto,
 
 As I reported Timothy J. Lilley, the licensee of the station
 transmitting the emission is responsible for determining that the
 operation of the station complies with the rules.
 
 According to the technical paper and the audio file attached, we
 conclude that ROS can not be viewed as Spread Spectrum and it would be
 encompassed within the section 97.309 (RTTY and data emissions codes).
 
 FCC Committee will remain outside of any legal action you decide to take.
 
 Should you have any further questions, or need additional information,
 please contact the ULS Customer Support Hotline at (877) 480-3201
 (877) 480-3201, selecting option 2.
 Sincerely,
 Agent 3820
 
 
 
 .
  
 



[digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-01 Thread Andy obrien
From Jose's web site
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
By José Alberto Nieto Ros
It ended the controversy about whether ROS is legal in USA or not. For
which they insisted on it was illegal: “A mamarla”

The case you submitted via the FCC has been resolved. The resolution
details for Case ID HD001311878 are below.
If you have any questions contact us at (877) 480-3201
Thank You!

Summary* : Request for clarification of ROS Digital Mode
Description* : Some days ago, Timothy J. Lilley got in touch with the
FCC to clarify the legality of the digital mode that I created. This
person gave the FCC without my permission and consent an incorrect and
incomplete documentation, which is inconsistent with the
characteristics of the digital mode.
I attach the technical description of ROS written by its developer and
an audio file for you to judge the legality of ROS in USA.
If it is no longer possible, I take legal action against Timothy J. Lilley.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Sincerely,
Jose Alberto Nieto Ros
Telecommunication Engineer

Solution Details : Dear Mr. Nieto,

As I reported Timothy J. Lilley, the licensee of the station
transmitting the emission is responsible for determining that the
operation of the station complies with the rules.

According to the technical paper and the audio file attached, we
conclude that ROS can not be viewed as Spread Spectrum and it would be
encompassed within the section 97.309 (RTTY and data emissions codes).

FCC Committee will remain outside of any legal action you decide to take.

Should you have any further questions, or need additional information,
please contact the ULS Customer Support Hotline at (877) 480-3201
(877) 480-3201, selecting option 2.
Sincerely,
Agent 3820




Try Hamspots, PSKreporter, and K3UK Sked Page 
http://www.obriensweb.com/skedpskr4.html
Suggesting calling frequencies: Modes 500Hz 3583,7073,14073,18103, 
21073,24923, 28123 .  Wider modes e.g. Olivia 32/1000, ROS16, ALE: 14109.7088.
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Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-01 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Jose

has K3TL said anything about his action?




Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-01 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU
On 03/01/2010 04:06 PM, Andy obrien wrote:

Thank goodness sanity has prevailed!

Leigh/WA5ZNU

  From Jose's web site
 http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
 FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
 By José Alberto Nieto Ros
 ...
 According to the technical paper and the audio file attached, we
 conclude that ROS can not be viewed as Spread Spectrum and it would be
 encompassed within the section 97.309 (RTTY and data emissions codes).






Try Hamspots, PSKreporter, and K3UK Sked Page 
http://www.obriensweb.com/skedpskr4.html
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21073,24923, 28123 .  Wider modes e.g. Olivia 32/1000, ROS16, ALE: 14109.7088.
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Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-01 Thread John B. Stephensen
I had no doubt that it would once the document that the FCC requires was 
published. Since European hams don't normally read FCC regulations, it might 
be useful for the IARU or RSGB to publish an article about U.S. regulations 
so this doesn't happen again.

73,

John
KD6OZH

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Cc: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 02:53 UTC
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS


 On 03/01/2010 04:06 PM, Andy obrien wrote:

 Thank goodness sanity has prevailed!





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