[digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-01 Thread Andy obrien
>From Jose's web site
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
By José Alberto Nieto Ros
It ended the controversy about whether ROS is legal in USA or not. For
which they insisted on it was illegal: “A mamarla”

The case you submitted via the FCC has been resolved. The resolution
details for Case ID HD001311878 are below.
If you have any questions contact us at (877) 480-3201
Thank You!

Summary* : Request for clarification of ROS Digital Mode
Description* : Some days ago, Timothy J. Lilley got in touch with the
FCC to clarify the legality of the digital mode that I created. This
person gave the FCC without my permission and consent an incorrect and
incomplete documentation, which is inconsistent with the
characteristics of the digital mode.
I attach the technical description of ROS written by its developer and
an audio file for you to judge the legality of ROS in USA.
If it is no longer possible, I take legal action against Timothy J. Lilley.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Sincerely,
Jose Alberto Nieto Ros
Telecommunication Engineer

Solution Details : Dear Mr. Nieto,

As I reported Timothy J. Lilley, the licensee of the station
transmitting the emission is responsible for determining that the
operation of the station complies with the rules.

According to the technical paper and the audio file attached, we
conclude that ROS can not be viewed as Spread Spectrum and it would be
encompassed within the section 97.309 (RTTY and data emissions codes).

FCC Committee will remain outside of any legal action you decide to take.

Should you have any further questions, or need additional information,
please contact the ULS Customer Support Hotline at (877) 480-3201
(877) 480-3201, selecting option 2.
Sincerely,
Agent 3820




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21073,24923, 28123 .  Wider modes e.g. Olivia 32/1000, ROS16, ALE: 14109.7088.
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Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-01 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Jose

has K3TL said anything about his action?




Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-01 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU
On 03/01/2010 04:06 PM, Andy obrien wrote:

Thank goodness sanity has prevailed!

Leigh/WA5ZNU

> > From Jose's web site
> http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
> FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
> By José Alberto Nieto Ros
> ...
> "According to the technical paper and the audio file attached, we
> conclude that ROS can not be viewed as Spread Spectrum and it would be
> encompassed within the section 97.309 (RTTY and data emissions codes)."
>





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21073,24923, 28123 .  Wider modes e.g. Olivia 32/1000, ROS16, ALE: 14109.7088.
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Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-01 Thread John B. Stephensen
I had no doubt that it would once the document that the FCC requires was 
published. Since European hams don't normally read FCC regulations, it might 
be useful for the IARU or RSGB to publish an article about U.S. regulations 
so this doesn't happen again.

73,

John
KD6OZH

- Original Message - 
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Cc: "Andy obrien" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 02:53 UTC
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS


> On 03/01/2010 04:06 PM, Andy obrien wrote:
>
> Thank goodness sanity has prevailed!





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21073,24923, 28123 .  Wider modes e.g. Olivia 32/1000, ROS16, ALE: 14109.7088.
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Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-02 Thread Curt Givens
Andy, good news I guess can we now resume regularly scheduled programing ;>)

de Curt KC8STE 73

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, Andy obrien  wrote:

From: Andy obrien 
Subject: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS
To: "digitalradio" 
Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 7:06 PM

>From Jose's web site
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
By José Alberto Nieto Ros
It ended the controversy about whether ROS is legal in USA or not. For
which they insisted on it was illegal: “A mamarla”

The case you submitted via the FCC has been resolved. The resolution
details for Case ID HD001311878 are below.
If you have any questions contact us at (877) 480-3201
Thank You!

Summary* : Request for clarification of ROS Digital Mode
Description* : Some days ago, Timothy J. Lilley got in touch with the
FCC to clarify the legality of the digital mode that I created. This
person gave the FCC without my permission and consent an incorrect and
incomplete documentation, which is inconsistent with the
characteristics of the digital mode.
I attach the technical description of ROS written by its developer and
an audio file for you to judge the legality of ROS in USA.
If it is no longer possible, I take legal action against Timothy J. Lilley.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Sincerely,
Jose Alberto Nieto Ros
Telecommunication Engineer

Solution Details : Dear Mr. Nieto,

As I reported Timothy J. Lilley, the licensee of the station
transmitting the emission is responsible for determining that the
operation of the station complies with the rules.

According to the technical paper and the audio file attached, we
conclude that ROS can not be viewed as Spread Spectrum and it would be
encompassed within the section 97.309 (RTTY and data emissions codes).

FCC Committee will remain outside of any legal action you decide to take.

Should you have any further questions, or need additional information,
please contact the ULS Customer Support Hotline at (877) 480-3201
(877) 480-3201, selecting option 2.
Sincerely,
Agent 3820




Try Hamspots, PSKreporter, and K3UK Sked Page 
http://www.obriensweb.com/skedpskr4.html
Suggesting calling frequencies: Modes <500Hz 3583,7073,14073,18103, 
21073,24923, 28123 .  Wider modes e.g. Olivia 32/1000, ROS16, ALE: 14109.7088.
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Re: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS

2010-03-02 Thread Dave
As for me, I'll wait until I hear it from someone more official than a customer 
service agent.  "Agent 3820" is not a FCC federal agent, but rather a customer 
service agent who will only base their opinion on what is right in front of 
themsame as the earlier ruling that it was "illegal".  

Let's hear it from the lawyers and engineers first, then I'll feel more 
comfortable.


Dave
K3DCW

Real radio bounces off the sky







On 2 Mar, at 12:15 PM, Curt Givens wrote:

> --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Andy obrien  wrote:
> 
> From: Andy obrien 
> Subject: [digitalradio] FCC comments further on ROS
> To: "digitalradio" 
> Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 7:06 PM
> 
> From Jose's web site
> http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/fcc-ros-legal-in-usa/
> FCC: ROS LEGAL IN USA
> By José Alberto Nieto Ros
> It ended the controversy about whether ROS is legal in USA or not. For
> which they insisted on it was illegal: “A mamarla”
> 
> The case you submitted via the FCC has been resolved. The resolution
> details for Case ID HD001311878 are below.
> If you have any questions contact us at (877) 480-3201
> Thank You!
> 
> Summary* : Request for clarification of ROS Digital Mode
> Description* : Some days ago, Timothy J. Lilley got in touch with the
> FCC to clarify the legality of the digital mode that I created. This
> person gave the FCC without my permission and consent an incorrect and
> incomplete documentation, which is inconsistent with the
> characteristics of the digital mode.
> I attach the technical description of ROS written by its developer and
> an audio file for you to judge the legality of ROS in USA.
> If it is no longer possible, I take legal action against Timothy J. Lilley.
> I look forward to hearing from you soon.
> Sincerely,
> Jose Alberto Nieto Ros
> Telecommunication Engineer
> 
> Solution Details : Dear Mr. Nieto,
> 
> As I reported Timothy J. Lilley, the licensee of the station
> transmitting the emission is responsible for determining that the
> operation of the station complies with the rules.
> 
> According to the technical paper and the audio file attached, we
> conclude that ROS can not be viewed as Spread Spectrum and it would be
> encompassed within the section 97.309 (RTTY and data emissions codes).
> 
> FCC Committee will remain outside of any legal action you decide to take.
> 
> Should you have any further questions, or need additional information,
> please contact the ULS Customer Support Hotline at (877) 480-3201
> (877) 480-3201, selecting option 2.
> Sincerely,
> Agent 3820
> 
> 
> 
> .
>  
>