[digitalradio] ICS-213 Form Required For EMCOMM Traffic
One of our major Served Agencies(SA)is a local governmental agency who is dictating that all EMCOMM message traffic be formatted on the ICS-213 form before they will accept it. This adds a great deal of overhead to the messages and consumes tons more TX/RX time than simple text, which could be used to pass the same information. Has anyone else run into this issue? We use Airmail and WL2K on 2 meters via local repeaters during drills and actual emergencies and send the ICS-213 form as a .rtf attachment to the e-mail message. Using QForms seems to work faster, but still is not near as fast as plain text. Any thoughts on this, other than trying to convince the SA that it's the information, not the appearance, that is important? That seems to be a major uphill battle and one our leadership does not want to tackle. We need to train like we'll fight and fight like we've trained. 73, Chuck KE5RAD EC, NE Unit, District 14, ARES
Re: [digitalradio] ICS-213 Form Required For EMCOMM Traffic
It is stupid to send forms. Send the content as a CSV record and generate the form at the receiving end... Rein PA0R -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: chuck_sprick ke5...@arrl.net Gesendet: 09.10.09 20:49:55 An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [digitalradio] ICS-213 Form Required For EMCOMM Traffic One of our major Served Agencies(SA)is a local governmental agency who is dictating that all EMCOMM message traffic be formatted on the ICS-213 form before they will accept it. This adds a great deal of overhead to the messages and consumes tons more TX/RX time than simple text, which could be used to pass the same information. Has anyone else run into this issue? We use Airmail and WL2K on 2 meters via local repeaters during drills and actual emergencies and send the ICS-213 form as a .rtf attachment to the e-mail message. Using QForms seems to work faster, but still is not near as fast as plain text. Any thoughts on this, other than trying to convince the SA that it's the information, not the appearance, that is important? That seems to be a major uphill battle and one our leadership does not want to tackle. We need to train like we'll fight and fight like we've trained. 73, Chuck KE5RAD EC, NE Unit, District 14, ARES Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] ICS-213 Form Required For EMCOMM Traffic
Chuck, Don't try to send the entire form, just send the data. It would not be difficult to setup a form that would store the entered data into a comma seperated text file, then put the data back into a form on the other end. There are a bunch of ways you could do this. Here is one solution that Santa Clara County ARES/RACES has developed: http://www.scc-ares-races.org/pfpublic/pacforms.html -Josh KD7PAJ One of our major Served Agencies(SA)is a local governmental agency who is dictating that all EMCOMM message traffic be formatted on the ICS-213 form before they will accept it. This adds a great deal of overhead to the messages and consumes tons more TX/RX time than simple text, which could be used to pass the same information.
Re: [digitalradio] ICS-213 Form Required For EMCOMM Traffic
I have forwarded this to a friend that has much the same problem but was able to get around it also. I'll post his reply if he sends one back as he is not a member of this list. James W8ISS = On Friday 09 October 2009 12:59:44 chuck_sprick wrote: One of our major Served Agencies(SA)is a local governmental agency who is dictating that all EMCOMM message traffic be formatted on the ICS-213 form before they will accept it. This adds a great deal of overhead to the messages and consumes tons more TX/RX time than simple text, which could be used to pass the same information. Has anyone else run into this issue? We use Airmail and WL2K on 2 meters via local repeaters during drills and actual emergencies and send the ICS-213 form as a .rtf attachment to the e-mail message. Using QForms seems to work faster, but still is not near as fast as plain text. Any thoughts on this, other than trying to convince the SA that it's the information, not the appearance, that is important? That seems to be a major uphill battle and one our leadership does not want to tackle. We need to train like we'll fight and fight like we've trained. 73, Chuck KE5RAD EC, NE Unit, District 14, ARES
