[digitalradio] Re: Broken PC question
Andy, I would suggest reseating (thats seat not set!) all the cards, especially the memory chips. Had that one before myself. If that fails I would guess the HD might has taken the knock. Andrew LY/ES2DY --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@... wrote: Please excuse the non-radio question... We have a PC that just stopped working, looking for some possible ideas. The PC (a desk top) was knocked over by a frustrated teenager , when plugged back in the power light comes back on but nothing is seen by the monitor , no Windows attempting to boot or anything, no beep codes. The fans are going, I do not see the HD LED light up, and after a few seconds at boot-up, I hear a slight click like the HD is trying without success. If the HD has gone kaput, would I not get some indication from the PC rather than just nothing at all ? Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Broken PC question
Thanks for the suggestions, I suspect a monitor related issue. I just put in a Linux boot disk (FL-Digi) and I do not even get a signal to the monitor, nothing displayed at all, same when i try to boot the HD with Windows XP. . The video is on the motherboard so there is no video CARD to reseat. I'm going to switch video cables and see if it is a cable issue. Andy K3UK On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Andrew es...@yahoo.com wrote: Andy, I would suggest reseating (thats seat not set!) all the cards, especially the memory chips. Had that one before myself. If that fails I would guess the HD might has taken the knock. Andrew LY/ES2DY --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@... wrote: Please excuse the non-radio question... We have a PC that just stopped working, looking for some possible ideas. The PC (a desk top) was knocked over by a frustrated teenager , when plugged back in the power light comes back on but nothing is seen by the monitor , no Windows attempting to boot or anything, no beep codes. The fans are going, I do not see the HD LED light up, and after a few seconds at boot-up, I hear a slight click like the HD is trying without success. If the HD has gone kaput, would I not get some indication from the PC rather than just nothing at all ? Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Re: Broken PC question
Andy, this sounds more like the power connection between the power supply and the motherboard is loose. Each of the devices you mention gets power through a separate cable and can mechanically operate regardless of the motherboard status. If the motherboard is not getting power, the onboard video will not be powered, therefore leaving no signal from the video board. One thing to check is to see if any of the devices receiving power from the motherboard directly rather than from the power supply are functioning. One of the common items is the CPU fan. Is the CPU cooling fan operating? If not, there is a chance the connector supplying power to the motherboard is loose or disconnected. On older machines, this is actually two connectors, but on most later ones, it is known as an ATX connector and is all in one connector. Make sure it is latched down with the clip on the side. Make sure none of the pins on the motherboard did not become unsoldered or broken loose from the motherboard from the shock of the fall (or the sudden stop at the bottom of the fall). John - KE5HAM --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Hmmm, I switched monitors and monitor cables to ones that are known to be working...NO signal to the monitor at all. The monitor is working, just no signal. The PC turns on, the CD ROM drive opens and closes upon pressing the button , so something on the PC is working. Since the video is on the motherboard I am not sure if there is anything to poke and prod, nothing obvious anyway. I wiggled the monitor connector to no avail. Maybe I'll pick up a cheap video grahics card and see if that will work, knowing my luck it may not work until I get inside the BIOS and switch from the onboard video to PCI card. I'd be really stuck then. Mayne I'll remove the HD and stick in another PC. Andy K3UK On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Thanks for the suggestions, I suspect a monitor related issue. I just put in a Linux boot disk (FL-Digi) and I do not even get a signal to the monitor, nothing displayed at all, same when i try to boot the HD with Windows XP. . The video is on the motherboard so there is no video CARD to reseat. I'm going to switch video cables and see if it is a cable issue. Andy K3UK On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Andrew es...@... wrote: Andy, I would suggest reseating (thats seat not set!) all the cards, especially the memory chips. Had that one before myself. If that fails I would guess the HD might has taken the knock. Andrew LY/ES2DY --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien k3ukandy@ wrote: Please excuse the non-radio question... We have a PC that just stopped working, looking for some possible ideas. The PC (a desk top) was knocked over by a frustrated teenager , when plugged back in the power light comes back on but nothing is seen by the monitor , no Windows attempting to boot or anything, no beep codes. The fans are going, I do not see the HD LED light up, and after a few seconds at boot-up, I hear a slight click like the HD is trying without success. If the HD has gone kaput, would I not get some indication from the PC rather than just nothing at all ? Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Broken PC question
Hmmm, I switched monitors and monitor cables to ones that are known to be working...NO signal to the monitor at all. The monitor is working, just no signal. The PC turns on, the CD ROM drive opens and closes upon pressing the button , so something on the PC is working. Since the video is on the motherboard I am not sure if there is anything to poke and prod, nothing obvious anyway. I wiggled the monitor connector to no avail. Maybe I'll pick up a cheap video grahics card and see if that will work, knowing my luck it may not work until I get inside the BIOS and switch from the onboard video to PCI card. I'd be really stuck then. Mayne I'll remove the HD and stick in another PC. Andy K3UK On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the suggestions, I suspect a monitor related issue. I just put in a Linux boot disk (FL-Digi) and I do not even get a signal to the monitor, nothing displayed at all, same when i try to boot the HD with Windows XP. . The video is on the motherboard so there is no video CARD to reseat. I'm going to switch video cables and see if it is a cable issue. Andy K3UK On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Andrew es...@yahoo.com wrote: Andy, I would suggest reseating (thats seat not set!) all the cards, especially the memory chips. Had that one before myself. If that fails I would guess the HD might has taken the knock. Andrew LY/ES2DY --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien k3uka...@... wrote: Please excuse the non-radio question... We have a PC that just stopped working, looking for some possible ideas. The PC (a desk top) was knocked over by a frustrated teenager , when plugged back in the power light comes back on but nothing is seen by the monitor , no Windows attempting to boot or anything, no beep codes. The fans are going, I do not see the HD LED light up, and after a few seconds at boot-up, I hear a slight click like the HD is trying without success. If the HD has gone kaput, would I not get some indication from the PC rather than just nothing at all ? Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Broken PC question
I'm surprised you're not getting any Beeps out of the POST (Power On Self Test) Did it Beep during normal boot up during the POST tests, before it had it's fall? You mentioned that the fans are running and the CD is getting power.. Is the fan on the CPU working? Check to see if the connector for the CPU fan is connected back to the motherboard, if it is running and is connected back to the motherboard for power then mother board is getting some power. Before you get a Video card to try One way to determine if the PC is coming up or not is to perform a shutdown blindly. If running XP or Windows 2000 on my 3 reguarlly used PCs (1 at work and 2 at home) hitting the windows key on the left side of the keyboard brings up the windows menu, then Arrow up 1 time selects Shutdown and hitting enter once or twice sends it ot it's way to shutdown mode. Another way is hit [alt][cntl][delete] which brings up a dialog box and hitting s for showtdown followed by [Enter] Of course this depends on what programs may load on boot up requiring intervention in the shutdown process. If same OS on the problematic machine and the one you're using here for email, Give that a shot on the working PC then try on the dead one. If the PC is booting up, and performing the shutdown turns it off, then you can say it's something with the video. Perhaps the Video connector got stressed and cracked at/in the Video connector between where it passes through the case / and connects to the motherboard. 73 Ben - ne5B On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:56:12 - John Taylor ke5h...@taylorent.com wrote: Andy, this sounds more like the power connection between the power supply and the motherboard is loose. Each of the devices you mention gets power through a separate cable and can mechanically operate regardless of the motherboard status. If the motherboard is not getting power, the onboard video will not be powered, therefore leaving no signal from the video board. One thing to check is to see if any of the devices receiving power from the motherboard directly rather than from the power supply are functioning. One of the common items is the CPU fan. Is the CPU cooling fan operating? If not, there is a chance the connector supplying power to the motherboard is loose or disconnected. On older machines, this is actually two connectors, but on most later ones, it is known as an ATX connector and is all in one connector. Make sure it is latched down with the clip on the side. Make sure none of the pins on the motherboard did not become unsoldered or broken loose from the motherboard from the shock of the fall (or the sudden stop at the bottom of the fall). John - KE5HAM --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Hmmm, I switched monitors and monitor cables to ones that are known to be working...NO signal to the monitor at all. The monitor is working, just no signal. The PC turns on, the CD ROM drive opens and closes upon pressing the button , so something on the PC is working. Since the video is on the motherboard I am not sure if there is anything to poke and prod, nothing obvious anyway. I wiggled the monitor connector to no avail. Maybe I'll pick up a cheap video grahics card and see if that will work, knowing my luck it may not work until I get inside the BIOS and switch from the onboard video to PCI card. I'd be really stuck then. Mayne I'll remove the HD and stick in another PC. Andy K3UK On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Thanks for the suggestions, I suspect a monitor related issue. I just put in a Linux boot disk (FL-Digi) and I do not even get a signal to the monitor, nothing displayed at all, same when i try to boot the HD with Windows XP. . The video is on the motherboard so there is no video CARD to reseat. I'm going to switch video cables and see if it is a cable issue. Andy K3UK On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Andrew es...@... wrote: Andy, I would suggest reseating (thats seat not set!) all the cards, especially the memory chips. Had that one before myself. If that fails I would guess the HD might has taken the knock. Andrew LY/ES2DY --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien k3ukandy@ wrote: Please excuse the non-radio question... We have a PC that just stopped working, looking for some possible ideas. The PC (a desk top) was knocked over by a frustrated teenager , when plugged back in the power light comes back on but nothing is seen by the monitor , no Windows attempting to boot or anything, no beep codes. The fans are going, I do not see the HD LED light up, and after a few seconds at boot-up, I hear a slight click like the HD is trying without success. If the HD has gone kaput, would I not get some indication from the PC rather than just nothing at all ? Andy K3UK
