[digitalradio] Re: FLARQ outperforms WINMOR

2009-10-31 Thread DAVID

DID ANYONE CHECKOUT THE BAUD RATE FOR PSK 500 ? IS IT A SINGLE STREAM ?

DAVID KF4WBS / NNN0LES




--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wenig  wrote:
>
> Andy,
> 
> Thanks for the Flarq tests last night.  That was really fun.  I can see 
> how useful this can be in emergency communications in addition to a 
> program like Winmor.  Winmor with its capabilities to send email through 
> the Winlink network and NBEMS with its peer to peer capabilities to send 
> error free digital data.  I like Flarq's capability to use a simple 
> setup like a low power radio, simple antenna and especially that $1.50 
> USB sound card that you were using :-)
> 
> 73, Ron ny3j
> 
> Andy obrien wrote:
> >  
> >
> > Well, not an apples to apples test.. but Ron NY3J and I played for
> > quite a while with FLARQ tonight on 80M and 40. 80M was was in poor
> > shape with QRN and weak signals but we managed a few slow MFSK16 email
> > transfers. We then switched to 40M and I received Ron about S5, he
> > was 200 miles away. We really had NO problems transferring email and
> > text files using PSK250. I sent one big file that averaged 800 bytes
> > per minute . On Winmor I have not had more than 300 bytes per minute
> > although some have reported 1000 bytes per minute. My sound card was
> > a $1.50 USB sound adapter. After an hour or so, we tried PSK500 but
> > were not able to get a "connect" perhaps the band was changing.
> >
> > So, while we are having fun seeing the good progress of WINMOR ...
> > don't forget FLARQ. It is simple and it works well. My next step is
> > to see if I can run both FLARQ and PSKMAIL at the same time. While in
> > the shack until about 0600 UTC, I will have my FLARQ beacon beaconing
> > every 15 minutes. I have RS ID on , so you can switch me over if you
> > need to change modes. Drop me an email on 7083 (7082 dial, plus 1000
> > hz on waterfall) When it is sleep time, I will close since we do not
> > run this "unattended".
> >
> > Andy K3UK
> >
> >
>




Re: [digitalradio] Re: FLARQ outperforms WINMOR

2009-10-30 Thread Andy obrien
Quite true, but there is a network of ARES and RACES groups slowly beginning
to see that FLARQ is quite effective.  When WINMOR moves to peer-to-server
operations, it will be interesting to see what happens.  WINMOR also has the
Telnet and packet capabilities.

Andy K3UK


On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:55 AM, aa777888athotmaildotcom <
aa777...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Definitely apples to oranges, Andy. One doesn't even need to get into a
> discussion of speed (although I've finally tweaked things so that I reliably
> get ~1Kbyte/min on a 1.6KHz mode S9 connection with 1-5K payload).
>
> The most important difference is that there is no promise of FLARQ being
> supported by a network of hundreds of radio mail server stations.
>
> k*b*l*0*0*q
>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , Andy
> obrien  wrote:
> >
> > Well, not an apples to apples test.. but Ron NY3J and I played for
> > quite a while with FLARQ tonight on 80M and 40. 80M was was in poor
> > shape with QRN and weak signals but we managed a few slow MFSK16 email
> > transfers. We then switched to 40M and I received Ron about S5, he
> > was 200 miles away. We really had NO problems transferring email and
> > text files using PSK250. I sent one big file that averaged 800 bytes
> > per minute . On Winmor I have not had more than 300 bytes per minute
> > although some have reported 1000 bytes per minute. My sound card was
> > a $1.50 USB sound adapter. After an hour or so, we tried PSK500 but
> > were not able to get a "connect" perhaps the band was changing.
> >
> > So, while we are having fun seeing the good progress of WINMOR ...
> > don't forget FLARQ. It is simple and it works well. My next step is
> > to see if I can run both FLARQ and PSKMAIL at the same time. While in
> > the shack until about 0600 UTC, I will have my FLARQ beacon beaconing
> > every 15 minutes. I have RS ID on , so you can switch me over if you
> > need to change modes. Drop me an email on 7083 (7082 dial, plus 1000
> > hz on waterfall) When it is sleep time, I will close since we do not
> > run this "unattended".
> >
> >
> >
> > Andy K3UK
> >
>
>  
>


[digitalradio] Re: FLARQ outperforms WINMOR

2009-10-30 Thread aa777888athotmaildotcom
Definitely apples to oranges, Andy. One doesn't even need to get into a 
discussion of speed (although I've finally tweaked things so that I reliably 
get ~1Kbyte/min on a 1.6KHz mode S9 connection with 1-5K payload).

The most important difference is that there is no promise of FLARQ being 
supported by a network of hundreds of radio mail server stations.

k*b*l*0*0*q

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien  wrote:
>
> Well, not an apples to apples test..  but Ron NY3J and I played for
> quite a while with FLARQ tonight on 80M and 40.  80M was was in poor
> shape with QRN and weak signals but we managed a few slow MFSK16 email
> transfers.  We then switched to 40M and I received Ron about S5, he
> was 200 miles away.  We really had NO problems transferring email and
> text files using PSK250.  I sent one big file that averaged 800 bytes
> per minute .  On Winmor I have not had more than 300 bytes  per minute
> although some  have reported 1000 bytes per minute.  My sound card was
> a $1.50 USB sound adapter.  After an hour or so, we tried PSK500 but
> were not able to get a "connect"  perhaps the band was changing.
> 
> So, while we are having fun seeing the good progress of WINMOR ...
> don't forget FLARQ.  It is simple and it works well.  My next step is
> to see if I can run both FLARQ and PSKMAIL at the same time.  While in
> the shack until about 0600 UTC, I will have my FLARQ beacon  beaconing
> every 15 minutes.  I have RS ID on , so you can switch me over if you
> need to change modes. Drop me an email on 7083 (7082 dial, plus 1000
> hz on waterfall)   When it is sleep time, I will close since we do not
> run this "unattended".
> 
> 
> 
> Andy K3UK
>