[digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Jerry W]

Sorry John,

IMHO I do not agree, there is a need for open source OS.
Even Microsoft is buying into Linux with Novel,  maybe
Bill is afraid, HI

I dropped Comcast cable Internet and have gone with DSL.  
Comcast insisted that I use Internet Explorer and Outlook 
Express.  I told tech support to discontinue my Internet 
service with Comcast because of that reason.  I feel I 
can use my computer the way I want, not what Comcast 
dictates.  I am using Visi com for ISP provider, they 
support all browsers and also Linux!

Maybe the debate about Linux should be on:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linuxhams/

Jerry  - K0HZI

[digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!]

[Irvine]

Sorry Roger,
 This digitalradio group is very helpful to me and I appreciate 
all the effort to keep it going.  I strongly support discussion of any 
OS, software, operating frequencies etc. It helps us enjoy, and maybe 
improve, digital radio.  When I don't have time or interest for some 
topics I find the PgUp, PgDn, and Del keys very helpful :-) .
  Over the years I have used OS2, MSWIN and LINUX.  While 
Multipsk and MixW are super programs, for daily ham use I prefer FLDIGI 
and MMVARI. 
73,
Irvine
N5UNB

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Roger J. Buffington]

Jerry W wrote:
>
>  Sorry John,
>
>  IMHO I do not agree, there is a need for open source OS. Even
>  Microsoft is buying into Linux with Novel, maybe Bill is afraid, HI
>

No matter what group I join, this "Windows v. Linux" topic comes up.  If 
we are not supposed to keep talking about the new FCC digital regs 
(something of vital interest to most of us digital ops) then we should 
be able to dispense with this Linux topic, which has nothing at all to 
do with digital radio.

de Roger W6VZV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Harv Nelson]

to howard and the rest ... I only objected to the label "cultisT".   Linux
is not a religious experience for me.  Like everyone else, I started with MS
Windows I just got sick of shelling out money and time.  Money I'd
rather invest in rigs and time I'd rather spend on the air.  Linux helped me
acheive that end.  I guess a better lable might be zealot.

my start on LINUX was a bit easier.   I was able to aquire several computers
from friends, neighbors, and relatives ... all fed up trying to make them
work.  I left one with windows and put one flavor or another of Linux on the
rest. at one time I had SUSE, Mandrake an RED HAT all going in here at the
same time. Until I got a decent KVM switch, all those independent monitors
raised holy hell with the radio.  Today, they all run Debian linux  and all
share the same monitor keyboard printer and mouse.  cuz that works best for
me.  One machine, does hamradio, another email and correspondence and
another is dedicated to photo editing and processing.   Keeping tasks on
separate machines worked out best for me.  I don't say everyone should do it
that way.  the important thing is, I didn't just toss out windows and start
fresh with Linux.  few among us are that capable or insightfull.  I got a
lot of help from experienced users in a number of different online "lugs".
lots of people were willing to share knowledge and experiences.  some of
them were hams like me.  I'VE FOUND THAT Linux, in contrast to Ham Radio, is
an inclusive welcoming fellowship. and not the exclusionary, clickish thing
haming can be, at times.  no one complains if you steal a piece of code or
try to build on their project, usually they're glad whensomeone else  wants
to help out.  its a cooperative "our thng" in contrast to an exclusive  "my
thing".  Ther is lots of stuff I don't know.  I'm no guru. I'm just playing
around ... not making a living.

73

Harv

On 11/28/06, Roger J. Buffington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Jerry W wrote:
>
> Sorry John,
>
> IMHO I do not agree, there is a need for open source OS. Even
> Microsoft is buying into Linux with Novel, maybe Bill is afraid, HI
>

No matter what group I join, this "Windows v. Linux" topic comes up. If
we are not supposed to keep talking about the new FCC digital regs
(something of vital interest to most of us digital ops) then we should
be able to dispense with this Linux topic, which has nothing at all to
do with digital radio.

de Roger W6VZV

 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Paul Metzger]

I believe this Linux topic was a nice break from all the FCC smack 
going on. Any new topic is rather refreshing. I also found it rather 
informative. Thanks to this discussion, I will be acquiring a new 
computer here shortly to experiment with Debian and Suse. Thanks Guys !

Paul Metzger
KQ6WEH

--

On Nov 28, 2006, at 18:14, Roger J. Buffington wrote:

> Jerry W wrote:
>>
>>  Sorry John,
>>
>>  IMHO I do not agree, there is a need for open source OS. Even
>>  Microsoft is buying into Linux with Novel, maybe Bill is afraid, HI
>>
>
> No matter what group I join, this "Windows v. Linux" topic comes up.  
> If
> we are not supposed to keep talking about the new FCC digital regs
> (something of vital interest to most of us digital ops) then we should
> be able to dispense with this Linux topic, which has nothing at all to
> do with digital radio.
>
> de Roger W6VZV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[KV9U]

Roger,

 From my perspective (which is probably a bit more liberal than many) 
all these things are important and they all certainly directly impact 
digital topics.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Roger J. Buffington wrote:

>>No matter what group I join, this "Windows v. Linux" topic comes up.  If 
>>we are not supposed to keep talking about the new FCC digital regs 
>>(something of vital interest to most of us digital ops) then we should 
>>be able to dispense with this Linux topic, which has nothing at all to 
>>do with digital radio.
>>
>>de Roger W6VZV
>>
>>
>>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Jose A. Amador]

Roger J. Buffington wrote:

>  No matter what group I join, this "Windows v. Linux" topic comes up.
>  If we are not supposed to keep talking about the new FCC digital regs
>  (something of vital interest to most of us digital ops) then we
>  should be able to dispense with this Linux topic, which has nothing
>  at all to do with digital radio.
>
>  de Roger W6VZV

Agree and disagree at the same time.

I agree on cutting the rant on the OS war.

But I disagree about Linux having nothing to do with radio.
Maybe it doesn't in YOUR personal experience, but doesn't mean anything 
else.

Jose, CO2JA



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28/noviembre al 1/diciembre de 2006
Cujae, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba
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RE: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA]

And in my case, everyting concerning MS operating systems and applications are 
not valid for my operation as I am 100% Unix/Linux ham shack and home office.

If I were the publisher of a major (or any amateur radio magazine) I would 
insist that any article with software that the writer programmed be usable on 
MS, Linux and MAC operating systems.

Having a dual bootable computer and/or running WINE on Linux is certainly a 
smart move for amateur radio operators.

73,

Walt/K5YFW

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jose A. Amador
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:29 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate
begin!!


Roger J. Buffington wrote:

>  No matter what group I join, this "Windows v. Linux" topic comes up.
>  If we are not supposed to keep talking about the new FCC digital regs
>  (something of vital interest to most of us digital ops) then we
>  should be able to dispense with this Linux topic, which has nothing
>  at all to do with digital radio.
>
>  de Roger W6VZV

Agree and disagree at the same time.

I agree on cutting the rant on the OS war.

But I disagree about Linux having nothing to do with radio.
Maybe it doesn't in YOUR personal experience, but doesn't mean anything 
else.

Jose, CO2JA



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28/noviembre al 1/diciembre de 2006
Cujae, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba
http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/convencion


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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Danny Douglas]

Walt, I am afraid you would go out of business right quick.  Few people who
write for magazines are going to mess with three systems.  They do it for
themselves, then publish what they have done.  As to commercial software -
you buy it the way it is, or dont.

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
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RE: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA]

There are already technical magazines that have this requirement and are doing 
much more business since making the change.  -- Walt

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danny Douglas
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:03 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate
begin!!


Walt, I am afraid you would go out of business right quick.  Few people who
write for magazines are going to mess with three systems.  They do it for
themselves, then publish what they have done.  As to commercial software -
you buy it the way it is, or dont.

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.

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From: "DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Harv Nelson]

here's a page full of links to various emulators, etc.

http://www.macwindows.com/emulator.html
I've never been able to make "wine"/"crossover" run well on my linux systems
...YMMV

73

Harv

On 11/30/06, DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


  There are already technical magazines that have this requirement and are
doing much more business since making the change. -- Walt

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ]On
Behalf Of Danny Douglas
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:03 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate
begin!!

Walt, I am afraid you would go out of business right quick. Few people who
write for magazines are going to mess with three systems. They do it for
themselves, then publish what they have done. As to commercial software -
you buy it the way it is, or dont.

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.

moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
- Original Message -
From: "DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
>

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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Dave Corio]

   Having just finished experimenting with a dual-boot system, I would 
like to add my two cents worth.


   In my humble opinion, and if all things were equal, I would choose 
LINUX as my OS over Windows in a second. As far as using it for all else 
than ham radio, it is superb in most ways. While it does have a pretty 
steep learning curve, anyone who was used to the old DOS way of doing 
things can pick it up pretty quickly.


   But all things are _not_ equal. While there is certainly some 
excellent amateur radio software for LINUX, and more coming out all the 
time, there simply isn't the wealth of development going into that area 
to produce programs that are truly competitive with what exists for 
Windows. Add that to the problem of compiling the programs and finding 
the necessary parts for assembling them, it is too early in the lifespan 
of the OS to expect that level of competition.


   I found that LINUX folks are amazing in their willingness to help a 
neophyte learn the ropes of the system, and some of the amateur software 
will be absolutely amazing given time. But, for me at least, that time 
isn't now. When it is, I'll be the first to recant my association with 
"Windoze" and jump on the LINUX bandwagon! I hope that day is sooner 
rather than later!


73
Dave
KB3MOW

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Leigh L Klotz, Jr.]

This is an interesting point of view, to take it from an economic and 
performance tradeoff.  If I might ask (if this threa continues), would 
you all mind posting your rig and antenna systems as well? It would be 
interesting to see if there is a correlation between OS choice and rig 
choice.  Homebrewers and Linux, or IC7800 and Windows, etc.
73,
Leigh/WA5ZNU
I wonder if we might get people to post their
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 4:09 pm, Dave Corio wrote:
> Having just finished experimenting with a dual-boot system, I would 
> like to add my two cents worth.
>
> In my humble opinion, and if all things were equal, I would choose 
> LINUX as my OS over Windows in a second. As far as using it for all 
> else than ham radio, it is superb in most ways. While it does have a 
> pretty steep learning curve, anyone who was used to the old DOS way of 
> doing things can pick it up pretty quickly.
>
> But all things are not equal. While there is certainly some excellent 
> amateur radio software for LINUX, and more coming out all the time, 
> there simply isn't the wealth of development going into that area to 
> produce programs that are truly competitive with what exists for 
> Windows. Add that to the problem of compiling the programs and finding 
> the necessary parts for assembling them, it is too early in the 
> lifespan of the OS to expect that level of competition.
>
> I found that LINUX folks are amazing in their willingness to help a 
> neophyte learn the ropes of the system, and some of the amateur 
> software will be absolutely amazing given time. But, for me at least, 
> that time isn't now. When it is, I'll be the first to recant my 
> association with "Windoze" and jump on the LINUX bandwagon! I hope that 
> day is sooner rather than later!
>
> 73
> Dave
> KB3MOW
>
> 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Dave Corio]

   I don't mind at all. And I hope the thread continues! It's interesting!

   I'm running an Icom IC-746 (non-Pro) through a RIGblaster interface, 
into a Butternut HF9V ground mount vertical for 40 thru 10, and a 
double-sized G5RV at 35 feet for 80 and 160. My PC is a Gateway 3.4 Ghz 
P-IV with 1G of RAM and 128M video RAM, using two sound cards - the 
built in Sound-Max chipset, and a SoundBlaster Audigy for digital comms. 
I'm not a homebrewer at all - in fact I hate having to put PL-259's on 
coax hi! Until recently, I was a Circuit Design Engineer for a telephone 
service provider, and will reluctantly admit to having a background in 
these infernal computer things!!


73
Dave
KB3MOW


Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:


This is an interesting point of view, to take it from an economic and
performance tradeoff. If I might ask (if this threa continues), would
you all mind posting your rig and antenna systems as well? It would be
interesting to see if there is a correlation between OS choice and rig
choice. Homebrewers and Linux, or IC7800 and Windows, etc.
73,
Leigh/WA5ZNU

  

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Michael P. Brininstool]

All people have to do is write in Java or its ilk. 

-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Danny Douglas
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:03 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

Walt, I am afraid you would go out of business right quick. Few people who
write for magazines are going to mess with three systems. They do it for
themselves, then publish what they have done. As to commercial software -
you buy it the way it is, or dont.

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.

moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:digital_modes%40yahoogroups.com>
- Original Message -
From: "DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:walt.dubose%40randolph.af.mil> >



 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Roger J. Buffington]

Dave Corio wrote:
>
>
>
>  Having just finished experimenting with a dual-boot system, I would
>  like to add my two cents worth.
>
>  In my humble opinion, and if all things were equal, I would choose
>  LINUX as my OS over Windows in a second. As far as using it for all
>  else than ham radio, it is superb in most ways. While it does have a
>  pretty steep learning curve, anyone who was used to the old DOS way
>  of doing things can pick it up pretty quickly.
>
I apologize if this seems negative, but this thread has about nothing to 
do with digital amateur radio.  Could you guys please take this to some 
other forum or to email?

de Roger W6VZV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Rein Couperus PA0R]

On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 17:50 -0800, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
> This is an interesting point of view, to take it from an economic and 
> performance tradeoff.  If I might ask (if this threa continues), would 
> you all mind posting your rig and antenna systems as well? It would be 
> interesting to see if there is a correlation between OS choice and rig 
> choice.  Homebrewers and Linux, or IC7800 and Windows, etc.
> 73,
> Leigh/WA5ZNU

I use a Ten Tec ORION, an Elecraft K2 and an FT897D with UBUNTU Linux.
(or with Mandriva Linux if using the pskmail live CD).

Rein PA0R

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Harv Nelson]

OK Leigh,

Hope this is what you're looking for.

OS  LINUX debIAN, etch (testing, release) runing on two laptops, and four
desktop/server machines. since they all run the same OS, they all network
easily and paly nicely with the router.

RIGS  HF = Kenwood TS 850 and FT 897 (coupled/controled  with the Acer 3000
laptop.  using HAMlib and a variety of other linux programs too numerous to
mention here.  SSTV to PSK and APRS.  I'm patiently waiting for something
For ALE and DRM.
VHF RIGS.  old Radio shack 2mtr base.  yaesu 2800M. Several handis. (yaesu
409RH =APRS mobile.)

antennas.  HF =G5RV at 35 feet.
6mtr homebrewed 5element log-Yagi.  "tower"= 10 ft armstrong stepladder.
2merter = various homebred concoctions. and bed springs.

other boxes include  antenna tunners and switches.
two old PK232 MBX modems that were used for packet and Pactor.  mt63 and PSK
now seem to fill those nitches with less noise and frustration.

in short... my homebrewing, building, experimenting, and  testing is done
mainly on the computers and antennas.
I live in far norther Wisconsin on Lake Superior and back in the woods.  by
the time the UPS man gets here with the parts I order over the internet,
I've forgotten where they fit in whaterver projects I had going on.  LInux
provides a fine platform to vent all my fiddling puttering and fix-it urges.

HArv, N9AI




On 11/30/06, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  This is an interesting point of view, to take it from an economic and
performance tradeoff. If I might ask (if this threa continues), would
you all mind posting your rig and antenna systems as well? It would be
interesting to see if there is a correlation between OS choice and rig
choice. Homebrewers and Linux, or IC7800 and Windows, etc.
73,
Leigh/WA5ZNU
I wonder if we might get people to post their
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 4:09 pm, Dave Corio wrote:
> Having just finished experimenting with a dual-boot system, I would
> like to add my two cents worth.
>
> In my humble opinion, and if all things were equal, I would choose
> LINUX as my OS over Windows in a second. As far as using it for all
> else than ham radio, it is superb in most ways. While it does have a
> pretty steep learning curve, anyone who was used to the old DOS way of
> doing things can pick it up pretty quickly.
>
> But all things are not equal. While there is certainly some excellent
> amateur radio software for LINUX, and more coming out all the time,
> there simply isn't the wealth of development going into that area to
> produce programs that are truly competitive with what exists for
> Windows. Add that to the problem of compiling the programs and finding
> the necessary parts for assembling them, it is too early in the
> lifespan of the OS to expect that level of competition.
>
> I found that LINUX folks are amazing in their willingness to help a
> neophyte learn the ropes of the system, and some of the amateur
> software will be absolutely amazing given time. But, for me at least,
> that time isn't now. When it is, I'll be the first to recant my
> association with "Windoze" and jump on the LINUX bandwagon! I hope that
> day is sooner rather than later!
>
> 73
> Dave
> KB3MOW
>
>
 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Paul L Schmidt, K9PS]

Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote:
> This is an interesting point of view, to take it from an economic and 
> performance tradeoff.  If I might ask (if this threa continues), would 
> you all mind posting your rig and antenna systems as well? It would be 
> interesting to see if there is a correlation between OS choice and rig 
> choice.  Homebrewers and Linux, or IC7800 and Windows, etc.
> 73,
> Leigh/WA5ZNU

Interesting idea...

Rig: currently IC-718 with TCXO, purchased in February 06 to replace my
TS-430S which was purchased new in 1982. :)

Computer: P4 3.4 GHz purchased Dec 2004 to replace my old Asus T2P4
motherboard which was running a K6/2 at 233 MHz (which replaced the
original K5 processor I had in it)

OS: Fedora Core 3 (the K6/2 runs Red Hat 6.2)  Crossover version 4.2
to support MS-Office 2000.

Antennas: Inverted Vees and Dipoles that will cover 160-10 with
a Heath roller-inductor tuner, and tuner built from an old ARC-5 to
cover 160m.  I only rarely venture above 60m anyway, and do a lot
more tinkering and listening than I ever do transmitting.

Soundcard interface and CI-V interface - homebrew designed and built.

I probably don't fit the description of either a typical ham or a
typical computer user.

- ps

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

[Brett Owen Rees VK2TMG]

HF setup

I run an Alinco DX-77 with a homebrew interface. KVM cables and old scsi
cables make for great shielded wiring. It's all a bit basic with TX keying
hanging off the back of DB9s plug etc - but it works. Computer is 2.2 GHz P4
with Debian installed from a Knoppix CD, and then updated over the Internet.
20m antenna is a dipole with coax balun, and 160-40m is an inverted L
through a manual ATU situated at the feedpoint to the shack. I build all of
my antenna and interfaces but typically buy radios new - less headaches that
way. Primary software is fldigi alpha versions.

For VHF APRS (VK2TMG-1) I run an ebay special FDC FD-150A HT to a 1/4 wave
groundplane, and also an FT-2800M to a copper jpole for local repeater use.
This is connected to a 1GHz P3 Windows XP box running AGWPE and UI-View. On
my motorcycle (VK2TMG-10) I run an APRS tracker comprising 1/4 wave
groundplane, Opentracker and Tait 2020 on 2m - all re-programmed/constructed
by myself.

Internet setup comprises ADSL router, IPCOP (Linux-based 166 MHz P2)
firewall, primary lisp.homeunix.net (Linux Mandrake install) 500 MHz P2
server, Wifi AP, 2 switches, XYL computer (XP) and laptop (Win 2k). If
electricity ever get's real expensive I will have to shut some of it down hi
hi.

73 de Brett VK2TMG


--
===
Brett Rees VK2TMG
http://lisp.homeunix.net

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!]

[Roger J. Buffington]

Irvine wrote:
>
>  Sorry Roger, This digitalradio group is very helpful to me and I
>  appreciate all the effort to keep it going. I strongly support
>  discussion of any OS, software, operating frequencies etc.
>

I do not see what a discussion about the merits of various operating 
systems has to do with digital radio, except incidentally.  By the same 
logic, we could discuss the 2008 US elections, since that might affect 
eventual regulation that might affect amateur radio that might affect 
the digital modes.  There are groups that specialize in discussing Linux 
and Windows, and that is where such discussions belong.

de Roger W6VZV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!]

[Dave And Merrijoy]

An great amount of time has now been spent on arguing about operating systems.  
Let's encourage cooler heads to prevail and move on.
Dave w9ocm (new member)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger J. Buffington 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!]


  Irvine wrote:
  >
  > Sorry Roger, This digitalradio group is very helpful to me and I
  > appreciate all the effort to keep it going. I strongly support
  > discussion of any OS, software, operating frequencies etc.
  >

  I do not see what a discussion about the merits of various operating 
  systems has to do with digital radio, except incidentally. By the same 
  logic, we could discuss the 2008 US elections, since that might affect 
  eventual regulation that might affect amateur radio that might affect 
  the digital modes. There are groups that specialize in discussing Linux 
  and Windows, and that is where such discussions belong.

  de Roger W6VZV



   


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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!]

[Simon Brown]

- Original Message - 
From: "Roger J. Buffington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I do not see what a discussion about the merits of various operating
> systems has to do with digital radio, except incidentally.

As a developer (mainly Windows, also Linux, UNIX, VMS and OS400) it is very 
interesting for me, I'm in the middle of a new digital mode program at the 
moment. Although I have the knowledge to write Linux (X) software for 
digital modes I chose not to, preferring Windows NT flavours instead.

The discussion has been most interesting, I for one would not ban informed 
discussion in this area. At least it's not descended into flame wars with 
the Seattle-ites vs. the Finlandiacs :-)

http://gallery.ham-radio.ch/main.php?g2_itemId=9832

Simon Brown, HB9DRV 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!]

[Brad Gillis]

Anybody using Mandrake One the Live CD so you don't have to do the dual boot 
route?
73
Brad 
N1NPK,_._,___ 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!]

[Rein Couperus PA0R]

On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 08:28 -0500, Brad Gillis wrote:
> Anybody using Mandrake One the Live CD so you don't have to do the
> dual boot route?
> 73
> Brad
> N1NPK,_._,___ 
> 

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!]

[Roger J. Buffington]

Simon Brown wrote:
>
>  - Original Message - From: "Roger J. Buffington"
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> >
> > I do not see what a discussion about the merits of various
> > operating systems has to do with digital radio, except
> > incidentally.
>
>  As a developer (mainly Windows, also Linux, UNIX, VMS and OS400) it
>  is very interesting for me,

Many subjects are interesting.  I would love to engage in a thread about 
my other hobbies: boating and digital photography.  But these subjects, 
in common with Linux v. Windows, have nothing to do with digital radio, 
although I do operate marine mobile from my boat, and transmit my photos 
via SSTV on 20M.

de Roger W6VZV
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