[digitalradio] Re: PSK SPOTS in DXLAB
Thanks Dave, Although I use Winwarbler and Spot Collector a lot, I have never really tried clicking on PSK31 spots . I will have to give that a try. Very useful. I wonder if this is the only application that does work well with PSK31 spots? Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave AA6YQ aa...@... wrote: AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Andy obrien Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:56 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] PSK SPOTS In WinWarbler, one click in the waterfall selects a PSK signal, and one click of the Spot button generates an outgoing spot (via SpotCollector). Double-clicking a PSK Spot Database Entry in SpotCollector directs WinWarbler or MultiPSK to immediately begin decoding the spotted station, QSYing the transceiver as required to achieve the specified optimal offset. Alternatively, one can click a plotted DX spot on DXView's World Map or click a DX spot on Commander's bandspread to accomplish the same result. WinWarbler's broadband decoder continuously identifies active PSK QSOs within the receiver bandpass, listing the decoded callsigns in its Stations Heard window. Optionally, these callsigns can be inserted into SpotCollector's Spot Database, where they are color coded for need with respect to the user's award objectives and award progress, dynamically obtained from DXKeeper. Thus its straightforward to identify needed PSK DX. These capabilities have been in broad use by DXLab users for many years. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK SPOTS in DXLAB
obrienaj wrote: Thanks Dave, Although I use Winwarbler and Spot Collector a lot, I have never really tried clicking on PSK31 spots . I will have to give that a try. Very useful. I wonder if this is the only application that does work well with PSK31 spots? The issue is not generating spots, it's the fact that very few psk spots are done in a fashion that when clicked, you are on the frequency decoding. I use DXLabs, great program (Thanks Dave!). I suspect if all used dxlabs we would not have this problem. But it appears that different programs spot the psk in different fashions. Some do an exact frequency spot, others a base frequency plus an offset (+1k) in the note, etc. This would be an opportunity for someone to develop a standard approach align. But if dx4win, and logger32 don't do it, you'll miss most of the dx'ers. Likewise, some of us use multipsk, and other digi programs instead of the suite program. So it needs to play in that regard as well. I see roughly a ten percent success rate clicking on psk spots, with rtty sstv being in the high 90% range. I don't lose sleep over this problem, but I have hardcore contester dxer friends (yes, I admit it) who like psk, but never use it for dx. And that's the reason when asked. And based on my experience, it's an opportunity for standardization. It needs to be a dial frequency type thing, not a get close hunt if you want to see more psk usage by that crowd. But there's another side of it. I kindof like not having contesters major dx chasers on psk! Maybe not being clickable is a good thing? Have fun, Alan km4ba
RE: [digitalradio] Re: PSK SPOTS in DXLAB
AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Alan Barrow Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:57 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK SPOTS in DXLAB obrienaj wrote: Thanks Dave, Although I use Winwarbler and Spot Collector a lot, I have never really tried clicking on PSK31 spots . I will have to give that a try. Very useful. I wonder if this is the only application that does work well with PSK31 spots? The issue is not generating spots, it's the fact that very few psk spots are done in a fashion that when clicked, you are on the frequency decoding. I use DXLabs, great program (Thanks Dave!). I suspect if all used dxlabs we would not have this problem. But it appears that different programs spot the psk in different fashions. Some do an exact frequency spot, others a base frequency plus an offset (+1k) in the note, etc. This would be an opportunity for someone to develop a standard approach align. But if dx4win, and logger32 don't do it, you'll miss most of the dx'ers. Users of these applications could request that PSK spot generation be automated to post the correct frequency (rig frequency +/- audio offset). Likewise, some of us use multipsk, and other digi programs instead of the suite program. So it needs to play in that regard as well. I see roughly a ten percent success rate clicking on psk spots, with rtty sstv being in the high 90% range. I don't lose sleep over this problem, but I have hardcore contester dxer friends (yes, I admit it) who like psk, but never use it for dx. And that's the reason when asked. And based on my experience, it's an opportunity for standardization. During my occasional holiday-style DX operations, the primary impediment to using PSK has been the slow QSO rate caused by macro-itis. It needs to be a dial frequency type thing, not a get close hunt if you want to see more psk usage by that crowd. But there's another side of it. I kindof like not having contesters major dx chasers on psk! Maybe not being clickable is a good thing? Broadband decoding has the potential of making pileups much more efficient. XF4DL made ~1000 PSK QSOs (out of 58K total) over the course of 10 days; perhaps Juergen DL8LE can share his perspective. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
