[digitalradio] Re: PSK SPOTS in DXLAB

2010-02-23 Thread obrienaj
Thanks Dave, Although I use Winwarbler and Spot Collector a lot, I have never 
really tried clicking on PSK31 spots . I will have to give that a try.  Very 
useful.  I wonder if this is the only application that does work well with 
PSK31 spots?

Andy K3UK

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 In WinWarbler, one click in the waterfall selects a PSK signal, and one
 click of the Spot button generates an outgoing spot (via SpotCollector).
 
 Double-clicking a PSK Spot Database Entry in SpotCollector directs
 WinWarbler or MultiPSK to immediately begin decoding the spotted station,
 QSYing the transceiver as required to achieve the specified optimal offset.
 Alternatively, one can click a plotted DX spot on DXView's World Map or
 click a DX spot on Commander's bandspread to accomplish the same result.
 
 WinWarbler's broadband decoder continuously identifies active PSK QSOs
 within the receiver bandpass, listing the decoded callsigns in its Stations
 Heard window. Optionally, these callsigns can be inserted into
 SpotCollector's Spot Database, where they are color coded for need with
 respect to the user's award objectives and award progress, dynamically
 obtained from DXKeeper. Thus its straightforward to identify needed PSK DX.
 
 These capabilities have been in broad use by DXLab users for many years.
 
 73,
 
Dave, AA6YQ





Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK SPOTS in DXLAB

2010-02-23 Thread Alan Barrow
obrienaj wrote:
 Thanks Dave, Although I use Winwarbler and Spot Collector a lot, I have never 
 really tried clicking on PSK31 spots . I will have to give that a try.  Very 
 useful.  I wonder if this is the only application that does work well with 
 PSK31 spots?
   

The issue is not generating spots, it's the fact that very few psk spots
are done in a fashion that when clicked, you are on the frequency 
decoding.

I use DXLabs, great program (Thanks Dave!). I suspect if all used dxlabs
we would not have this problem.

But it appears that different programs spot the psk in different
fashions. Some do an exact frequency spot, others a base frequency plus
an offset (+1k) in the note, etc.

This would be an opportunity for someone to develop a standard approach
 align. But if dx4win, and logger32 don't do it, you'll miss most of
the dx'ers.

Likewise, some of us use multipsk, and other digi programs instead of
the suite program. So it needs to play in that regard as well.

I see roughly a ten percent success rate clicking on psk spots, with
rtty  sstv being in the high 90% range.

I don't lose sleep over this problem, but I have hardcore contester 
dxer friends (yes, I admit it) who like psk, but never use it for dx.
And that's the reason when asked. And based on my experience, it's an
opportunity for standardization.

It needs to be a dial frequency type thing, not a get close  hunt if
you want to see more psk usage by that crowd. But there's another side
of it. I kindof like not having contesters  major dx chasers on
psk! Maybe not being clickable is a good thing?

Have fun,

Alan
km4ba


RE: [digitalradio] Re: PSK SPOTS in DXLAB

2010-02-23 Thread Dave AA6YQ
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Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK SPOTS in DXLAB



obrienaj wrote:
 Thanks Dave, Although I use Winwarbler and Spot Collector a lot, I have
never really tried clicking on PSK31 spots . I will have to give that a try.
Very useful. I wonder if this is the only application that does work well
with PSK31 spots?


The issue is not generating spots, it's the fact that very few psk spots
are done in a fashion that when clicked, you are on the frequency 
decoding.

I use DXLabs, great program (Thanks Dave!). I suspect if all used dxlabs
we would not have this problem.

But it appears that different programs spot the psk in different
fashions. Some do an exact frequency spot, others a base frequency plus
an offset (+1k) in the note, etc.

This would be an opportunity for someone to develop a standard approach
 align. But if dx4win, and logger32 don't do it, you'll miss most of
the dx'ers.

Users of these applications could request that PSK spot generation be
automated to post the correct frequency (rig frequency +/- audio offset).

Likewise, some of us use multipsk, and other digi programs instead of
the suite program. So it needs to play in that regard as well.

I see roughly a ten percent success rate clicking on psk spots, with
rtty  sstv being in the high 90% range.

I don't lose sleep over this problem, but I have hardcore contester 
dxer friends (yes, I admit it) who like psk, but never use it for dx.
And that's the reason when asked. And based on my experience, it's an
opportunity for standardization.


 During my occasional holiday-style DX operations, the primary impediment
to using PSK has been the slow QSO rate caused by macro-itis.


It needs to be a dial frequency type thing, not a get close  hunt if
you want to see more psk usage by that crowd. But there's another side
of it. I kindof like not having contesters  major dx chasers on
psk! Maybe not being clickable is a good thing?

Broadband decoding has the potential of making pileups much more
efficient. XF4DL made ~1000 PSK QSOs (out of 58K total) over the course of
10 days; perhaps Juergen DL8LE can share his perspective.

 73,

Dave, AA6YQ