[digitalradio] Re: Interface within the rig?
Hi Andy, That began last year when ICOM came out with te IC-7200 and its USB CODAC support, I worked with an overseas ham running an HFN ALE station and added the needed support to MARS-ALE and later PC-ALE for the '7200 as you must use UBB-D (LSB-D) to used the CODEC and he has been running with it ever since. Just the one USB connection to provide the radio CAT control and audio channels between the radio and PC, the same is true of the latest models with that support from ICOM. /s/ Steve, N2CKH www.n2ckh.com/PC_ALE_FORUM/ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: While reading Steve Ford's QST review of the Microham USB interface, I was thinking about the enduring qualities of my Microham interface . I also began to wonder when we might see transceiver manufactures including this circuitry within a rig? Just connect a USB cable to the rig, hook audio cables from rig to PC, and off you go. Isolation circuits are reading established. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re : Interface within the rig ?
On Sunday 06 December 2009 18:22:22 Dave Ackrill wrote: Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle wrote: As for D-Star, ICOM is the maker, don't believe Yaesu has anything in their line-up, same for Kenwood (except the rebrand). I am a Kenwood man and so far I have resisted going to D-Star until I see what the other makes bring out. If D-Star was so good WHY haven't the other brands made and sold them? I would guess that D-Star is the intellectual property right of Icom, so if other manufacturers want to use it they would have to pay Icom for the right to do so. I can't see many manufacturers wanting to tie their future development to a competitor by including something that the competitor controlled... There is an alternative that implements D-Star which uses a dongle unit into the PC to interface other radios, but it isn't cheap. I guess that could be due to rights payments as well? Personally, and I am a bit of a sucker for strange new modes, I can't see what D-Star would give me that I need or want at present. Even digital audio over Amateur bands seems to have more down sides than up to me. Dave (G0DJA) Hello Dave and the Group. D-Star is a protocal that the JARL (Japenese version of the ARRL) has devel- oped that is open source to the public EXCEPT for one piece of software that it relies on that is PROPRIETORY code. Hense the reason the D-Star dongle cost so much to sell. Kenwood, Yaesu, and Alinco can jump on the band wagon anytime they want if they want to. Its just that I think they see D-Star as more of a FAD than a useful mode. The thing that gets me is that everyone I have talked to locally thinks that D-Star is going to behave like a plain analogue voice signal. WRONG!!! You are going to have lose of data depending on conditions and signal stregnth in ANY mode, but with D-Star it is more pronounced for the cut-off threshold between full and no signal decode. There have been a few Satellite QSO's on AO-51 using D-Star but no one has released an audio file of the quality that was obtained that I have found yet which is something I would like to heard. Here in Michigan, I have played a little with 'borrowed' (already programmed) equipment on D-Star and didn't like it much. Too much choppy audio and lose of lock on data. Got fifty miles from a repeater that was now D-Star and lost link to it. That same repeater as an analogue repeater I could get into from as far away as 125 miles. All based on same antenna and power - 50 watts and a MFJ 15 dollars dual band mag mount on same car. I am not impressed with it as a general usage system unless you are going to be a local user ONLY. As for long distance comms, it would have to rely on band conditions helping out. I'll stay with the tryed and true methods for now. James W8ISS Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental digital modes = 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on waterfall. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re : Interface within the rig ?
Considering that PSK 31 has been used for almost eleven years by many hams, I think the tranceiver manufacturers missed the opportunity to add this facility to their equipment many years ago. Interest in all forms of digital communication methods grew steadily during the first years of the new century and including an interface would have encouraged hams to buy a particular model. My shack has a rats nest of cable which is unsightly. The inclusion of D-star was obviously considered to be an asset for the sales of Yaesu, perhaps it is popular in Japan, but I believe a PSK interface would have helped to sell more Yaesu equipment worldwide. Kind regards, Mel G0GQK
Re: [digitalradio] Re : Interface within the rig ?
raf3151019 wrote: The inclusion of D-star was obviously considered to be an asset for the sales of Yaesu, perhaps it is popular in Japan, but I believe a PSK interface would have helped to sell more Yaesu equipment worldwide. I thought D-Star was Icom? There's a band of D-Star enthusiasts around the Sheffield/Barnsley area up here. Dave (G0DJA)
Re: [digitalradio] Re : Interface within the rig ?
Mel, I would have to agree with you. It is a shame that for an extra couple of dollars fitting a USB interface and sound (quality) into the radio would open digital up to more uses. I too have a maze of cables running through the shack connecting radios to computers and others. Being able to run one single USB cable that would do Rig control and data would get rid (in my case) 3 cables. But I do what I can. As for D-Star, ICOM is the maker, don't believe Yaesu has anything in their line-up, same for Kenwood (except the rebrand). I am a Kenwood man and so far I have resisted going to D-Star until I see what the other makes bring out. If D-Star was so good WHY haven't the other brands made and sold them? So for now I am using a Signa-Link USB for the digital modes which makes things a little tidier. Still I have a messy shack. Bye for now. Kevin, ZL1KFM. PS. I am looking forward to full digital voice on HF when it gets better to setup. A simple interface box (at a resonable price as well) - Original Message - From: raf3151019 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re : Interface within the rig ? Considering that PSK 31 has been used for almost eleven years by many hams, I think the tranceiver manufacturers missed the opportunity to add this facility to their equipment many years ago. Interest in all forms of digital communication methods grew steadily during the first years of the new century and including an interface would have encouraged hams to buy a particular model. My shack has a rats nest of cable which is unsightly. The inclusion of D-star was obviously considered to be an asset for the sales of Yaesu, perhaps it is popular in Japan, but I believe a PSK interface would have helped to sell more Yaesu equipment worldwide. Kind regards, Mel G0GQK
Re: [digitalradio] Re : Interface within the rig ?
Gmail - Kevin, Natalia, Stacey Rochelle wrote: As for D-Star, ICOM is the maker, don't believe Yaesu has anything in their line-up, same for Kenwood (except the rebrand). I am a Kenwood man and so far I have resisted going to D-Star until I see what the other makes bring out. If D-Star was so good WHY haven't the other brands made and sold them? I would guess that D-Star is the intellectual property right of Icom, so if other manufacturers want to use it they would have to pay Icom for the right to do so. I can't see many manufacturers wanting to tie their future development to a competitor by including something that the competitor controlled... There is an alternative that implements D-Star which uses a dongle unit into the PC to interface other radios, but it isn't cheap. I guess that could be due to rights payments as well? Personally, and I am a bit of a sucker for strange new modes, I can't see what D-Star would give me that I need or want at present. Even digital audio over Amateur bands seems to have more down sides than up to me. Dave (G0DJA) Suggested frequencies for calling CQ with experimental digital modes = 3584,10147, 14074 USB on your dial plus 1000Hz on waterfall. Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
