Re: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread....

[Jose A. Amador]

Per wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I know, I've not always kept my mouth shut either but it never leads to 
> any good in the end.
> As we are hams we should have an antenna flame war instead ;-) (I like 
> verticals ;-))
> 
> 73 de Per, sm0rwo

Agreed 8-)

73,

Jose, CO2JA
Linux User # 91155
http://counter.li.org



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Re: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread....

[Per]

Hi,

I know, I've not always kept my mouth shut either but it never leads to any 
good in the end.
As we are hams we should have an antenna flame war instead ;-) (I like 
verticals ;-))

73 de Per, sm0rwo






From: José A. Amador 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 8:56:52 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread



Per,

I use BOTH.

I just meant a joke, because "the dark side of the force is always lurking"

I did not mean to hurt anyone, and I do operate on the air as well, 
perhaps not as much as I would like.

73,

Jose CO2JA

Per escribió:
> These threads just do not end. Pse just use what you like and stop bad 
> mouthing all the other systems.
> I only use linux but I'm not going to tell you that windows and macs 
> suck, if you like any of those then good for you. Have some fun on the 
> air instead.
>
> 73 de Per, sm0rwo
>

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Re: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread....

[Stelios Bounanos]

> On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:41:46 -0500, Rick W  said:

[...]

> Needless to say I won't even respond the the impertinent comments by Hal 
> since they are basically an attack on the intelligence and abilities of 
> most computer users rather than on any merits. Those of us who have 
> tried different OS's, some for decades, find good and bad in each OS, 
> but the bottom line is which one has the most practical value right 
> now.  While most here in the U.S. overwhelmingly choose Microsoft, there 
> are a modest, but increasing number, who like Mac. Linux is still very 
> small. Much, much smaller than I expected by now. I have spent a LOT of 
> time with Linux and have been surprisingly disappointed. And I did not 
> expect to be.

Rick, I must say that I can't remember the last time I heard of someone
who has tried so hard and for so long and has been as disappointed as
you.  Is your hardware not supported?  Are there problems with the
software?  Have you asked on the forums or mailing lists?  Filed bug
reports or feature requests?

Q: When will Linux be ready for me?
A: Sooner if you help.

BTW, users "overwhelmingly choose" the preinstalled OS.


Back on topic... there seem to be around a dozen pskmail servers on HF
in Europe; apparently sufficient for pskmail's (increasing) userbase.
How many would you need in North America?  I think that whatever the
answer may be, there must be enough hams there who either use Linux
already, or aren't afraid they might get the Linux cooties :-)

As a case in point, I count just less than 1000 unique callsigns in the
list of IRLP nodes in the U.S.  This tells me that Linux isn't going to
be an obstacle to pskmail adoption in the U.S. or anywhere else.
Particularly if someone comes up with some kind of pskmail appliance,
e.g. a low-cost ARM-based device such as the ones I mentioned earlier.


73,
Stelios, M0GLD.

Re: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread....

[José A. Amador]

Per,

I use BOTH.

I just meant a joke, because "the dark side of the force is always lurking"

I did not mean to hurt anyone, and I do operate on the air as well, 
perhaps not as much as I would like.

73,

Jose CO2JA



Per escribió:
> These threads just do not end. Pse just use what you like and stop bad 
> mouthing all the other systems.
> I only use linux but I'm not going to tell you that windows and macs 
> suck, if you like any of those then good for you. Have some fun on the 
> air instead.
>
> 73 de Per, sm0rwo
>


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RE: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread....

[Scott Gillis N3UJJ]

I second the motion…

 

For the record I use Linux & Windows, each has strengths and weaknesses.

 

 

Scott Gillis N3UJJ 
  My Hamshack
  My Current Location
  My Amateur Weather Station

 

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.
~Abraham Lincoln~

482955

 

 

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Per
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:29
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread

 

These threads just do not end. Pse just use what you like and stop bad
mouthing all the other systems.
I only use linux but I'm not going to tell you that windows and macs suck,
if you like any of those then good for you. Have some fun on the air
instead.

73 de Per, sm0rwo



 

  _  

From: José A. Amador 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:18:22 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?


Once upon a time, in a very distant galaxy, there was an ace pilot named 
Anakin Skywalker...

> > Linux has not been very successful here in the U.S. with most ham
> > computer users.
> > But it just has not been very practical at this point because like
> > so many things in life, the trade-offs are too great:(
>
> Because too many refuse to think??
>

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Re: [digitalradio] The usual OS Flame war thread....

[Rick W]

I agree, Per, but like anything in life, there are tradeoffs. Some don't 
want to admit that, but some of us thankfully understand it well. It is 
curious that it is relatively rare for the Microsoft users to say 
derogatory comments about Linux. I  can not say the same for the more 
extreme Linux users, and some perhaps not so extreme:(

Needless to say I won't even respond the the impertinent comments by Hal 
since they are basically an attack on the intelligence and abilities of 
most computer users rather than on any merits. Those of us who have 
tried different OS's, some for decades, find good and bad in each OS, 
but the bottom line is which one has the most practical value right 
now.  While most here in the U.S. overwhelmingly choose Microsoft, there 
are a modest, but increasing number, who like Mac. Linux is still very 
small. Much, much smaller than I expected by now. I have spent a LOT of 
time with Linux and have been surprisingly disappointed. And I did not 
expect to be.

It is a very good thing to have open minded discussions about the value 
of different OS's for ham use and how one can help you do something that 
is not possible in another. Otherwise, no one would ever look at 
anything other than what they now use. It is no different than which 
digital program to use. They all have strong and weak points, but some 
will be a better "fit" for an individual ham.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Per wrote:
> These threads just do not end. Pse just use what you like and stop bad 
> mouthing all the other systems.
> I only use linux but I'm not going to tell you that windows and macs 
> suck, if you like any of those then good for you. Have some fun on the 
> air instead.
>
> 73 de Per, sm0rwo
>
>
>
> 
> *From:* José A. Amador 
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 2, 2009 4:18:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] PSKMail Windows server?
>
>
> Once upon a time, in a very distant galaxy, there was an ace pilot named
> Anakin Skywalker...
>
> > > Linux has not been very successful here in the U.S. with most ham
> > > computer users.
> > > But it just has not been very practical at this point because like
> > > so many things in life, the trade-offs are too great:(
> >
> > Because too many refuse to think??
> >
>
> VI Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de Energía y 
> Educación Energética
> 9 - 12 de Junio 2009, Palacio de las Convenciones
> ...Por una cultura energética sustentable
> www.ciercuba. com
>
>
>
>
> 
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