Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code
Not to worry. You've shown far more clarity in your thinking than you may realize. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code >From: kd4e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/12/16 Sat AM 09:34:57 CST >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code > >> Ten Four, Good Buddy! >> 73, Bob AA8X > >It has been "Ten Four, Good Buddy" on the part of >13WPM and 20WPM Hams on 75M for 40 years. > >So much for CW as a LID filter. > Gentlemen, This might get me flamed/burnt to a crisp but I have my asbestos underwear firmly in place.
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code
>From: kd4e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2006/12/16 Sat AM 09:34:57 CST >To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code > >> Ten Four, Good Buddy! >> 73, Bob AA8X > >It has been "Ten Four, Good Buddy" on the part of >13WPM and 20WPM Hams on 75M for 40 years. > >So much for CW as a LID filter. > >Sigh. > >-- > >Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E >... in sunny & warm Florida :-) >~~~ >Thank our brave soldiers this season: >http://www.letssaythanks.com/Home1024.html >~~~ >URL: bibleseven (dot) com > Gentlemen, This might get me flamed/burnt to a crisp but I have my asbestos underwear firmly in place. I am not against CW...it's just another mode that we can use but I don't see how it is a "lid filter". I am currently learning CW and enjoying it enough that I will continue learning it in spite of the R&O. I have met incredibly good and bad operators, in my admittedly short time as a ham, who have passed the code. It is my personal opinion that when computer chips that can encode/decode CW at very fast speeds are cheap (which I believe is the case) perhaps it is time to consider CW just another digital mode. CW is a wonderful mode for it's fantastic S/N ratio but the days when we might have had to "Macgyver" a radio together from car parts and tap CW out for help are largely gone. The argument that someone must know CW to operate knobs on a radio is the same one as you must know ASCII codes to use a computer keyboard (can anyone tell me what an ASCII A is? EBCDIC A? Things change). Perhaps I am naive but if there is concern about too many "lids" getting advanced tickets couldn't we as a community increase the difficulty of the written exams to include more radio theory? There are an awful lot of kids doing incredible experimentation on shoestring budgets in the UHF range just look at the DEFCON distance shootouts every year. The distance records set with homemade antennas represents what HAM radio is all about experimentation and advancement of the radio art. It is really hard to convince young folks that we are all about fun experimentation and advancement of radio when we ask them to learn morse code. The code is the most frequently cited objection when I talk with a younger person about getting their amateur license. If we could get some of the young folks who are willing to do the kind of experimentation we see with Bluetooth and 802.11 distance records into amateur radio that would be fantastic. In fact, my theory is that people like that are amateur radio operators at heart they just don't know it yet. Just my uninformed .02 Best Regards, Manaen
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code
I disagree. I think CW did indeed "filter" out a large number of "air heads", but certainly not all of them. There are several of them locally that decided that learning CW was "too much trouble" to get their license, and I'm glad they felt that way! I cannot think of any filter that would insure no lids entered the hobby. 73 Buddy WB4M - Original Message - From: "w6ids" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code > > Yeh, and let's not forget the "air heads" who also think that CW was > what they continually describe as a "LID filter." I've been licensed > 50-Plus years and I can assure you the CW requirement did nothing > to keep out the current flock of resident sociopaths and tree climbers > that can be found here and there across the landscape of Ham Radio. > > I can still copy 25 wpm with a stick or a "mil" and still send CW with > a speed key I've had since 'Nam. Never have used a computer for > CW and still think it's great that CW has now been put to rest. > > Now perhaps we can get some fresh, new faces in the hobby and > some fresh new interest. Just MHO but I doubt I'll escape the few > pointed jabs or two before the dust settles. > > Howard W6IDS > Richmond, IN > > ----- Original Message - > From: John Champa > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:40 AM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code > > Bob, > > Oh, don't be such a pessimist and a cynic! > > My daughter is a genius who is studying for her Tech. > She calls me once a week for help with a study question. > > Just because you think this radio stuff is simple, doesn't mean > all semi-tractor trailer drives will think it is a snap, too (HI). > >>SNIP< >SNIP< > > > Connect to telnet://cluster.dynalias.org a single node spotting/alert > system dedicated to digital and CW QSOs. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code
Yeh, and let's not forget the "air heads" who also think that CW was what they continually describe as a "LID filter." I've been licensed 50-Plus years and I can assure you the CW requirement did nothing to keep out the current flock of resident sociopaths and tree climbers that can be found here and there across the landscape of Ham Radio. I can still copy 25 wpm with a stick or a "mil" and still send CW with a speed key I've had since 'Nam. Never have used a computer for CW and still think it's great that CW has now been put to rest. Now perhaps we can get some fresh, new faces in the hobby and some fresh new interest. Just MHO but I doubt I'll escape the few pointed jabs or two before the dust settles. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From: John Champa To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code Bob, Oh, don't be such a pessimist and a cynic! My daughter is a genius who is studying for her Tech. She calls me once a week for help with a study question. Just because you think this radio stuff is simple, doesn't mean all semi-tractor trailer drives will think it is a snap, too (HI). >SNIP< >SNIP<
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code
yes, along with "Roger, Roger". It has been "Ten Four, Good Buddy" on the part of 13WPM and 20WPM Hams on 75M for 40 years. So much for CW as a LID filter. Sigh.
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code
Bob, Oh, don't be such a pessimist and a cynic! My daughter is a genius who is studying for her Tech. She calls me once a week for help with a study question. Just because you think this radio stuff is simple, doesn't mean all semi-tractor trailer drives will think it is a snap, too (HI). 73, John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: "Bob John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:31:33 -0600 Ten Four, Good Buddy! 73, Bob AA8X - Original Message - From: Radioguy To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 7:07 PM Subject: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: NEWS MEDIA CONTACT: December 15, 2006 Chelsea Fallon: (202) 418-7991 FCC MODIFIES AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE RULES, ELIMINATING MORSE CODE EXAM REQUIREMENTS AND ADDRESSING ARRL PETITION FOR RECONSIDERATION Washington, D.C. - Today, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) adopted a Report and Order and Order on Reconsideration (Order) that modifies the rules for the Amateur Radio Service by revising the examination requirements for obtaining a General Class or Amateur Extra Class amateur radio operator license and revising the operating privileges for Technician Class licensees. In addition, the Order resolves a petition filed by the American Radio Relay League, Inc. (ARRL) for partial reconsideration of an FCC Order on amateur service rules released on October 10, 2006. The current amateur service operator license structure contains three classes of amateur radio operator licenses: Technician Class, General Class, and Amateur Extra Class. General Class and Amateur Extra Class licensees are permitted to operate in Amateur bands below 30 MHz, while the introductory Technician Class licensees are only permitted to operate in bands above 30 MHz. Prior to today's action, the FCC, in accordance with international radio regulations, required applicants for General Class and Amateur Extra Class operator licenses to pass a five words-per-minute Morse code examination. Today's Order eliminates that requirement for General and Amateur Extra licensees. This change reflects revisions to international radio regulations made at the International Telecommunication Union's 2003 World Radio Conference (WRC-03), which authorized each country to determine whether to require that individuals demonstrate Morse code proficiency in order to qualify for an amateur radio license with transmitting privileges on frequencies below 30 MHz. This change eliminates an unnecessary regulatory burden that may discourage current amateur radio operators from advancing their skills and participating more fully in the benefits of amateur radio. Today's Order also revises the operating privileges for Technician Class licensees by eliminating a disparity in the operating privileges for the Technician Class and Technician Plus Class licensees. Technician Class licensees are authorized operating privileges on all amateur frequencies above 30 MHz. The Technician Plus Class license, which is an operator license class that existed prior the FCC's simplification of the amateur license structure in 1999 and was grandfathered after that time, authorized operating privileges on all amateur frequencies above 30 MHz, as well as frequency segments in four HF bands (below 30 MHz) after the successful completion of a Morse code examination. With today's elimination of the Morse code exam requirements, the FCC concluded that the disparity between the operating privileges of Technician Class licensees and Technician Plus Class licensees should not be retained. Therefore, the FCC, in today's action, afforded Technician and Technician Plus licensees identical operating privileges. Finally, today's Order resolved a petition filed by the ARRL for partial reconsideration of an FCC Order released on October 10, 2006 (FCC 06-149). In this Order, the FCC authorized amateur stations to transmit voice communications on additional frequencies in certain amateur service bands, including the 75 meter (m) band, which is authorized only for certain wideband voice and image communications. The ARRL argued that the 75 m band should not have been expanded below 3635 kHz, in order to protect automatically controlled digital stations operating in the 3620-3635 kHz portion of the 80 m band. The FCC concluded that these stations can be protected by providing alternate spectrum in the 3585-3600 kHz frequency segment. Action by the Commission on December 15, 2006, by Report and Order and Order on Reconsideration. Chairma
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code
> Ten Four, Good Buddy! > 73, Bob AA8X It has been "Ten Four, Good Buddy" on the part of 13WPM and 20WPM Hams on 75M for 40 years. So much for CW as a LID filter. Sigh. -- Thanks! & 73, doc, KD4E ... in sunny & warm Florida :-) ~~~ Thank our brave soldiers this season: http://www.letssaythanks.com/Home1024.html ~~~ URL: bibleseven (dot) com
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code
Ten Four, Good Buddy! 73, Bob AA8X - Original Message - From: Radioguy To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 7:07 PM Subject: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: NEWS MEDIA CONTACT: December 15, 2006 Chelsea Fallon: (202) 418-7991 FCC MODIFIES AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE RULES, ELIMINATING MORSE CODE EXAM REQUIREMENTS AND ADDRESSING ARRL PETITION FOR RECONSIDERATION Washington, D.C. - Today, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) adopted a Report and Order and Order on Reconsideration (Order) that modifies the rules for the Amateur Radio Service by revising the examination requirements for obtaining a General Class or Amateur Extra Class amateur radio operator license and revising the operating privileges for Technician Class licensees. In addition, the Order resolves a petition filed by the American Radio Relay League, Inc. (ARRL) for partial reconsideration of an FCC Order on amateur service rules released on October 10, 2006. The current amateur service operator license structure contains three classes of amateur radio operator licenses: Technician Class, General Class, and Amateur Extra Class. General Class and Amateur Extra Class licensees are permitted to operate in Amateur bands below 30 MHz, while the introductory Technician Class licensees are only permitted to operate in bands above 30 MHz. Prior to today's action, the FCC, in accordance with international radio regulations, required applicants for General Class and Amateur Extra Class operator licenses to pass a five words-per-minute Morse code examination. Today's Order eliminates that requirement for General and Amateur Extra licensees. This change reflects revisions to international radio regulations made at the International Telecommunication Union's 2003 World Radio Conference (WRC-03), which authorized each country to determine whether to require that individuals demonstrate Morse code proficiency in order to qualify for an amateur radio license with transmitting privileges on frequencies below 30 MHz. This change eliminates an unnecessary regulatory burden that may discourage current amateur radio operators from advancing their skills and participating more fully in the benefits of amateur radio. Today's Order also revises the operating privileges for Technician Class licensees by eliminating a disparity in the operating privileges for the Technician Class and Technician Plus Class licensees. Technician Class licensees are authorized operating privileges on all amateur frequencies above 30 MHz. The Technician Plus Class license, which is an operator license class that existed prior the FCC's simplification of the amateur license structure in 1999 and was grandfathered after that time, authorized operating privileges on all amateur frequencies above 30 MHz, as well as frequency segments in four HF bands (below 30 MHz) after the successful completion of a Morse code examination. With today's elimination of the Morse code exam requirements, the FCC concluded that the disparity between the operating privileges of Technician Class licensees and Technician Plus Class licensees should not be retained. Therefore, the FCC, in today's action, afforded Technician and Technician Plus licensees identical operating privileges. Finally, today's Order resolved a petition filed by the ARRL for partial reconsideration of an FCC Order released on October 10, 2006 (FCC 06-149). In this Order, the FCC authorized amateur stations to transmit voice communications on additional frequencies in certain amateur service bands, including the 75 meter (m) band, which is authorized only for certain wideband voice and image communications. The ARRL argued that the 75 m band should not have been expanded below 3635 kHz, in order to protect automatically controlled digital stations operating in the 3620-3635 kHz portion of the 80 m band. The FCC concluded that these stations can be protected by providing alternate spectrum in the 3585-3600 kHz frequency segment. Action by the Commission on December 15, 2006, by Report and Order and Order on Reconsideration. Chairman Martin and Commissioners Copps, Adelstein, Tate, and McDowell. For additional information, contact William Cross at (202) 418-0691 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] WT Docket Nos. 04-140 and 05-235. - FCC - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.20/588 - Release Date: 12/15/2006 10:02 AM
Re: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code
NOT ANOTHER SHOE - A BOOT. Take the damn bands and do what you want AR Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Radioguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: [digitalradio] FCC Drops Morse Code FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: NEWS MEDIA CONTACT: December 15, 2006 Chelsea Fallon: (202) 418-7991 FCC MODIFIES AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE RULES, ELIMINATING MORSE CODE EXAM REQUIREMENTS AND ADDRESSING ARRL PETITION FOR RECONSIDERATION Washington, D.C. - Today, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) adopted a Report and Order and Order on Reconsideration (Order) that modifies the rules for the Amateur Radio Service by revising the examination requirements for obtaining a General Class or Amateur Extra Class amateur radio operator license and revising the operating privileges for Technician Class licensees. In addition, the Order resolves a petition filed by the American Radio Relay League, Inc. (ARRL) for partial reconsideration of an FCC Order on amateur service rules released on October 10, 2006. The current amateur service operator license structure contains three classes of amateur radio operator licenses: Technician Class, General Class, and Amateur Extra Class. General Class and Amateur Extra Class licensees are permitted to operate in Amateur bands below 30 MHz, while the introductory Technician Class licensees are only permitted to operate in bands above 30 MHz. Prior to today's action, the FCC, in accordance with international radio regulations, required applicants for General Class and Amateur Extra Class operator licenses to pass a five words-per-minute Morse code examination. Today's Order eliminates that requirement for General and Amateur Extra licensees. This change reflects revisions to international radio regulations made at the International Telecommunication Union's 2003 World Radio Conference (WRC-03), which authorized each country to determine whether to require that individuals demonstrate Morse code proficiency in order to qualify for an amateur radio license with transmitting privileges on frequencies below 30 MHz. This change eliminates an unnecessary regulatory burden that may discourage current amateur radio operators from advancing their skills and participating more fully in the benefits of amateur radio. Today's Order also revises the operating privileges for Technician Class licensees by eliminating a disparity in the operating privileges for the Technician Class and Technician Plus Class licensees. Technician Class licensees are authorized operating privileges on all amateur frequencies above 30 MHz. The Technician Plus Class license, which is an operator license class that existed prior the FCC's simplification of the amateur license structure in 1999 and was grandfathered after that time, authorized operating privileges on all amateur frequencies above 30 MHz, as well as frequency segments in four HF bands (below 30 MHz) after the successful completion of a Morse code examination. With today's elimination of the Morse code exam requirements, the FCC concluded that the disparity between the operating privileges of Technician Class licensees and Technician Plus Class licensees should not be retained. Therefore, the FCC, in today's action, afforded Technician and Technician Plus licensees identical operating privileges. Finally, today's Order resolved a petition filed by the ARRL for partial reconsideration of an FCC Order released on October 10, 2006 (FCC 06-149). In this Order, the FCC authorized amateur stations to transmit voice communications on additional frequencies in certain amateur service bands, including the 75 meter (m) band, which is authorized only for certain wideband voice and image communications. The ARRL argued that the 75 m band should not have been expanded below 3635 kHz, in order to protect automatically controlled digital stations operating in the 3620-3635 kHz portion of the 80 m band. The FCC concluded that these stations can be protected by providing alternate spectrum in the 3585-3600 kHz frequency segment. Action by the Commission on December 15, 2006, by Report and Order and Order on Reconsideration. Chairman Martin and Commissioners Copps, Adelstein, Tate, and McDowell. For additional information, contact William Cross at (202) 418-0691 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] WT Docket Nos. 04-140 and 05-235. - FCC - Connect to telnet://cluster.dynalias.org a single node spotting/alert system dedicated to digital and CW QSOs. Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.20/588 - Release Date: 12/15/2006 10:02 AM
