Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating transceiver audio input"

2010-07-20 Thread J. Moen
Well, I set up a portable chair that has a small shelf on the side where I 
place my 817. Battery on the ground.  The NUE-PSK and very small keyboard sit 
on my lap.  Works very comfortably.  With PSK, I don't need to tune the radio 
very often, typically.  

I also liked the Commodore back in those days.  And my dad had a TI 99 (I think 
it was).  When computers were real and printed line by line on the screen.  
None of this namby pamby GUI stuff.

   Jim - K6JM

  - Original Message - 
  From: James Hall 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"



  It'd be pretty cool if that nue-psk device was a little more like this: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80_Model_100 With the built in keyboard. Is it 
very cumbersome to have that, a keyboard and your radio going all at once?



  On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:20 PM, J. Moen  wrote:

  
 

Remote control. Very useful in some situations.  Especially if you aren't 
allowed to have decent antennas where you live.

The kick I get from battery-operated QRP operation is communicating without 
infrastructure.  I am out there with a battery, a radio, a NUE-PSK modem and a 
portable antenna.  No internet, no power company.

(Full disclosure --  I don't yet have a portable solar facility to recharge 
my battery, so right now I'm still tied to power company infrastructure for 
re-charging.   But architecturally, I don't have to be.)

As you say, both approaches have value.  This diversity is why Ham Radio is 
so interesting
   
   Jim - K6JM

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Edwards 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"




  NUE PSK is great for back packing and mobile operation so long as only 
PSK 31 or RTTY is of  interest. Computers offer a richer display with more 
options and the ability to generate many different modes. The idea is to go 
directly from the computer via IP to a back box  that is broadband and can be 
remotely located and is mode agnostic. Both approaches have their own 
advantages.






--
  From: J. Moen 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:50:07 PM
      Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"



  Will be interesting to compare this effort to the NUE-PSK, which takes a 
different appoach.  They have a modem that plugs directly into a transceiver' s 
Data port eliminating the need for PCs and soundcards, but they are now working 
on a "NUE-SDR" transceiver that either will fit as a card inside the little 
modem, or attach underneath it (not sure what their final design will be).  
This would eliminate both the PC and a separate transceiver.

  http://www.nue-psk.com/

 Jim - K6JM
- Original Message - 
From: obrienaj 
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:20 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"  
"I am developing a 'modem' to directly modulate computer generated 
modes to RF thus eliminating the requirement of using a transceiver audio input"

Welcome to the group, tell us more.

Andy K3UK





Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating transceiver audio input"

2010-07-20 Thread Rudy Benner
HEY !! I had one of those. In fact, I had a Trash 80 Model 1 with 4 k of RAM 
and Level I rom. That cassette interface was a POS. I also had most of the 
other TRS models at one time or other.


From: James Hall 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:04 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"


  
It'd be pretty cool if that nue-psk device was a little more like this: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80_Model_100 With the built in keyboard. Is it 
very cumbersome to have that, a keyboard and your radio going all at once?



On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:20 PM, J. Moen  wrote:


   

  Remote control. Very useful in some situations.  Especially if you aren't 
allowed to have decent antennas where you live.

  The kick I get from battery-operated QRP operation is communicating without 
infrastructure.  I am out there with a battery, a radio, a NUE-PSK modem and a 
portable antenna.  No internet, no power company.

  (Full disclosure --  I don't yet have a portable solar facility to recharge 
my battery, so right now I'm still tied to power company infrastructure for 
re-charging.   But architecturally, I don't have to be.)

  As you say, both approaches have value.  This diversity is why Ham Radio is 
so interesting
 
 Jim - K6JM

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Edwards 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:25 PM
    Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"


  

NUE PSK is great for back packing and mobile operation so long as only PSK 
31 or RTTY is of  interest. Computers offer a richer display with more options 
and the ability to generate many different modes. The idea is to go directly 
from the computer via IP to a back box  that is broadband and can be remotely 
located and is mode agnostic. Both approaches have their own advantages.







From: J. Moen 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"

  

Will be interesting to compare this effort to the NUE-PSK, which takes a 
different appoach.  They have a modem that plugs directly into a transceiver' s 
Data port eliminating the need for PCs and soundcards, but they are now working 
on a "NUE-SDR" transceiver that either will fit as a card inside the little 
modem, or attach underneath it (not sure what their final design will be).  
This would eliminate both the PC and a separate transceiver.

http://www.nue-psk.com/

   Jim - K6JM
  - Original Message - 
  From: obrienaj 
  To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:20 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"  
  "I am developing a 'modem' to directly modulate computer generated modes 
to RF thus eliminating the requirement of using a transceiver audio input"

  Welcome to the group, tell us more.

  Andy K3UK














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Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating transceiver audio input"

2010-07-20 Thread James Hall
It'd be pretty cool if that nue-psk device was a little more like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80_Model_100 With the built in keyboard. Is
it very cumbersome to have that, a keyboard and your radio going all at
once?

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:20 PM, J. Moen  wrote:

>
>
> 
> Remote control. Very useful in some situations.  Especially if you aren't
> allowed to have decent antennas where you live.
>
> The kick I get from battery-operated QRP operation is communicating without
> infrastructure.  I am out there with a battery, a radio, a NUE-PSK modem and
> a portable antenna.  No internet, no power company.
>
> (Full disclosure --  I don't yet have a portable solar facility to recharge
> my battery, so right now I'm still tied to power company infrastructure for
> re-charging.   But architecturally, I don't have to be.)
>
> As you say, both approaches have value.  This diversity is why Ham Radio is
> so interesting
>
>Jim - K6JM
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Gary Edwards 
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:25 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating
> transceiver audio input"
>
>
>
> NUE PSK is great for back packing and mobile operation so long as only PSK
> 31 or RTTY is of  interest. Computers offer a richer display with more
> options and the ability to generate many different modes. The idea is to go
> directly from the computer via IP to a back box  that is broadband and can
> be remotely located and is mode agnostic. Both approaches have their own
> advantages.
>
>
>  ----------
> *From:* J. Moen 
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tue, July 20, 2010 8:50:07 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating
> transceiver audio input"
>
>
>
> Will be interesting to compare this effort to the NUE-PSK, which takes a
> different appoach.  They have a modem that plugs directly into a
> transceiver' s Data port eliminating the need for PCs and soundcards, but
> they are now working on a "NUE-SDR" transceiver that either will fit as a
> card inside the little modem, or attach underneath it (not sure what their
> final design will be).  This would eliminate both the PC and a separate
> transceiver.
>
> http://www.nue-psk.com/
>
>Jim - K6JM
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* obrienaj 
> *To:* digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:20 PM
> *Subject:* [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating
> transceiver audio input"
>
> "I am developing a 'modem' to directly modulate computer generated modes to
> RF thus eliminating the requirement of using a transceiver audio input"
>
> Welcome to the group, tell us more.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
>  
>


Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating transceiver audio input"

2010-07-20 Thread J. Moen
Remote control. Very useful in some situations.  Especially if you aren't 
allowed to have decent antennas where you live.

The kick I get from battery-operated QRP operation is communicating without 
infrastructure.  I am out there with a battery, a radio, a NUE-PSK modem and a 
portable antenna.  No internet, no power company.

(Full disclosure --  I don't yet have a portable solar facility to recharge my 
battery, so right now I'm still tied to power company infrastructure for 
re-charging.   But architecturally, I don't have to be.)

As you say, both approaches have value.  This diversity is why Ham Radio is so 
interesting
   
   Jim - K6JM

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Edwards 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"




  NUE PSK is great for back packing and mobile operation so long as only PSK 31 
or RTTY is of  interest. Computers offer a richer display with more options and 
the ability to generate many different modes. The idea is to go directly from 
the computer via IP to a back box  that is broadband and can be remotely 
located and is mode agnostic. Both approaches have their own advantages.






--
  From: J. Moen 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:50:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"



  Will be interesting to compare this effort to the NUE-PSK, which takes a 
different appoach.  They have a modem that plugs directly into a transceiver' s 
Data port eliminating the need for PCs and soundcards, but they are now working 
on a "NUE-SDR" transceiver that either will fit as a card inside the little 
modem, or attach underneath it (not sure what their final design will be).  
This would eliminate both the PC and a separate transceiver.

  http://www.nue-psk.com/

 Jim - K6JM
- Original Message - 
From: obrienaj 
To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:20 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"  
"I am developing a 'modem' to directly modulate computer generated modes to 
RF thus eliminating the requirement of using a transceiver audio input"

Welcome to the group, tell us more.

Andy K3UK



Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating transceiver audio input"

2010-07-20 Thread Rudy Benner
Very interesting, remote HF placed at the local repeater site.


From: Gary Edwards 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:25 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"


  

NUE PSK is great for back packing and mobile operation so long as only PSK 31 
or RTTY is of  interest. Computers offer a richer display with more options and 
the ability to generate many different modes. The idea is to go directly from 
the computer via IP to a back box  that is broadband and can be remotely 
located and is mode agnostic. Both approaches have their own advantages.







From: J. Moen 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"

  

Will be interesting to compare this effort to the NUE-PSK, which takes a 
different appoach.  They have a modem that plugs directly into a transceiver' s 
Data port eliminating the need for PCs and soundcards, but they are now working 
on a "NUE-SDR" transceiver that either will fit as a card inside the little 
modem, or attach underneath it (not sure what their final design will be).  
This would eliminate both the PC and a separate transceiver.

http://www.nue-psk.com/

   Jim - K6JM
  - Original Message - 
  From: obrienaj 
  To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:20 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"  
  "I am developing a 'modem' to directly modulate computer generated modes to 
RF thus eliminating the requirement of using a transceiver audio input"

  Welcome to the group, tell us more.

  Andy K3UK












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Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating transceiver audio input"

2010-07-20 Thread Gary Edwards
NUE PSK is great for back packing and mobile operation so long as only PSK 31 
or 
RTTY is of  interest. Computers offer a richer display with more options and 
the 
ability to generate many different modes. The idea is to go directly from the 
computer via IP to a back box  that is broadband and can be remotely located 
and 
is mode agnostic. Both approaches have their own advantages.






From: J. Moen 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 8:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating  
transceiver audio input"

  
Will be interesting to compare this effort to the  NUE-PSK, which takes a 
different appoach.  They have a modem that plugs  directly into a transceiver' 
s 
Data port eliminating the need for PCs and  soundcards, but they are now 
working 
on a "NUE-SDR" transceiver that either will  fit as a card inside the little 
modem, or attach underneath it (not sure what  their final design will be).  
This would eliminate both the PC and a  separate transceiver.
 
http://www.nue-psk.com/
 
   Jim - K6JM
- Original Message - 
>From: obrienaj 
>To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com 
>Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:20  PM
>Subject: [digitalradio] directly modulatecomputer /thus eliminating 
>transceiver audio input"  
>
>"I am developing a 'modem' to directly modulate computer generated modes to
>RF thus eliminating the requirement of using a transceiver audioinput"
>
>Welcome to the group, tell us more.
>
>AndyK3UK
>
 


  

Re: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating transceiver audio input"

2010-07-20 Thread J. Moen
Will be interesting to compare this effort to the NUE-PSK, which takes a 
different appoach.  They have a modem that plugs directly into a transceiver's 
Data port eliminating the need for PCs and soundcards, but they are now working 
on a "NUE-SDR" transceiver that either will fit as a card inside the little 
modem, or attach underneath it (not sure what their final design will be).  
This would eliminate both the PC and a separate transceiver.

http://www.nue-psk.com/

   Jim - K6JM
  - Original Message - 
  From: obrienaj 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:20 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] directly modulate computer /thus eliminating 
transceiver audio input"  
  "I am developing a 'modem' to directly modulate computer generated modes to 
RF thus eliminating the requirement of using a transceiver audio input"

  Welcome to the group, tell us more.

  Andy K3UK