Re: help desk software

2011-05-11 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:38:49AM -0400, Matt Shields wrote:
 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Eric Chadbourne eric.chadbou...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  I need to create a tech support dept for a medium size non-profit.  What
  ticket software would you suggest?
 
  Thanks!
 Just to name a few off the top of my head.  There are hundreds and new ones
 come out almost every day.
 
 RT
 Spiceworks
 Kayako
 Cerberus
 osTicket
 PerlDesk
 PHP Support Tickets
 Support Logic Helpdesk
 Help Desk Software

OTRS
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help desk software

2011-05-10 Thread Eric Chadbourne
Hi all.

I need to create a tech support dept for a medium size non-profit.  What
ticket software would you suggest?

Thanks!
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Re: help desk software

2011-05-10 Thread Matt Shields
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Eric Chadbourne eric.chadbou...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all.

 I need to create a tech support dept for a medium size non-profit.  What
 ticket software would you suggest?

 Thanks!
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Just to name a few off the top of my head.  There are hundreds and new ones
come out almost every day.

RT
Spiceworks
Kayako
Cerberus
osTicket
PerlDesk
PHP Support Tickets
Support Logic Helpdesk
Help Desk Software
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Re: help desk software

2011-05-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:00:26AM -0400, Eric Chadbourne wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I need to create a tech support dept for a medium size non-profit.  What
 ticket software would you suggest?

The only problem I've ever encountered using RT is getting
people to use it when they've never used ticketing software
before.

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Re: help desk software

2011-05-10 Thread Eric Chadbourne
On 05/10/2011 10:47 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:00:26AM -0400, Eric Chadbourne wrote:
 Hi all.

 I need to create a tech support dept for a medium size non-profit.  What
 ticket software would you suggest?
 
 The only problem I've ever encountered using RT is getting
 people to use it when they've never used ticketing software
 before.
 
 -dsr-
 


RT it is.  Thanks guys.

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Re: help desk software

2011-05-10 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:47:12AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:00:26AM -0400, Eric Chadbourne wrote:
  Hi all.
  
  I need to create a tech support dept for a medium size non-profit.  What
  ticket software would you suggest?
 
 The only problem I've ever encountered using RT is getting
 people to use it when they've never used ticketing software
 before.

This is helped somewhat by using RT's e-mail interface... if you can
get them to send e-mail to a group address instead of to individual
humans, that solves a lot of that problem.  You can never solve it
entirely though... and some people resist even that much of a change.

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Re: help desk software

2011-05-10 Thread Matt Shields
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.orgwrote:

 On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:47:12AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
  On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:00:26AM -0400, Eric Chadbourne wrote:
   Hi all.
  
   I need to create a tech support dept for a medium size non-profit.
  What
   ticket software would you suggest?
 
  The only problem I've ever encountered using RT is getting
  people to use it when they've never used ticketing software
  before.

 This is helped somewhat by using RT's e-mail interface... if you can
 get them to send e-mail to a group address instead of to individual
 humans, that solves a lot of that problem.  You can never solve it
 entirely though... and some people resist even that much of a change.

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I've learned that there are always some people who want nothing to do with
ticket systems.  The way I got around this was by explaining to them that a
sysadmin's time has to be justified and this was what management wanted to
justify how we spent our time.  I'll go ahead and start to work on your
issue, but as soon as you get back to your desk I need a ticket submitted.
 I also used the ticket system as a queue for what takes priority over other
things and used it to assign tasks to other sysadmins.  It was also helpful
for rotating who's oncall and who should handle the weekly support tasks.

Anyway, you start to learn who will send a ticket in and who won't.  For
those who won't I tell them that since they continuously forget to submit a
ticket, then their issue will have to wait until they have the time to
submit one.  They learn real quick.

-matt
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Re: help desk software

2011-05-10 Thread Eric Chadbourne
On 05/10/2011 06:02 PM, Randy wrote:
 At one company, I customized the help desk application so that it could be
 used by the call center to track shareholder issues.

That is cool!

- Eric C.

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Re: Help Desk Software

2011-02-27 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:14:49PM -0500, Chris O'Connell wrote:
 Can anyone recommend some open source help desk software?
 
 Obviously the software should be web based.  I also want to be able to run
 reports about closed items, open items, and who is assigned to what.

Early in my career I used Remedy ARS.  It's complicated and
heavy-handed, but if you have someone who knows how to manage it (we
did), it can be awesome.  Mostly since then I've used RT, and I agree
with others that it's good.

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Re: Help Desk Software

2011-02-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 02/25/2011 07:14 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
 Can anyone recommend some open source help desk software?

 Obviously the software should be web based.  I also want to be able to run
 reports about closed items, open items, and who is assigned to what.

RT has been discussed before. http://bestpractical.com/rt/

Most help desk software should give you the reports you want, but you
also want the system to be usable by the people who are answering the
calls. Years ago when I was with a small company our customers would
call, and we didn't track them, but we decided to just keep a manual
phone log. One day one of our field people complained to my boss that he
never got callbacks. I got out my phone log and threw it right back into
his face. In any case, part of the issue is that you have to sell the
system to the people who will be using this. So, you might want to think
of setting up some incentives to use the product, whatever you choose.

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Re: Help Desk Software

2011-02-26 Thread Chris O'Connell
Sorry, I meant change control, like tracking hardware, software and other
changes to systems or softwares.

I have a primitive form of change control tracking built into the customer
DB I wrote.  This allows me to look historically at any changes/problems a
particular resource has ever had.  Came in handy this week when I made a
simple change to my ESXI server's time settings. Later I went to view the
real time performance monitor and it didn't work on any of the virtual
servers!  I looked back at the change controls and found the last change I
made was updating the time settings.  I reverted to the previous settings
and viola!  Performance monitoring was working again.


On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote:


 On 02/26/2011 08:05 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
  Thanks Guys.  I guess I should have included more information in my
  original posting.  The organization is structured in a very
  decentralized way.  The United States is broken up into 9 regions
  called Provinces.  Each Province has one IT guy or girl.  Presently we
  don't communicate among one another very much at all.  While I use a
  database I wrote to track change controls, inventory and issues what I
  wrote isn't suitable for group use.
 
  I'm trying to organize the first national meeting of our 9 IT people
  and one of the proposed ideas/questions was what people use to track
  their work tickets.  Given some up coming mergers of Provinces I
  thought this might be a good time to consider installing a web based
  ticketing system and letting people use the system voluntarily.  We
  are also exploring a few other open source collaboration programs.
 
  Can anyone suggest any open source change management or collaboration
  tools that might help?
 
  It sounds like RT is the suggested ticketing software.
 What do you mean by open source change management. CVS, SVN, and GIT
 are all Open Source tools. More recently GIT seems to be in favor, but
 both CVS and SVN are excellent. We had a presentation on RT at the BLU a
 number of years ago, and companies were using RT for a number of
 different types of things.

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Re: Help Desk Software

2011-02-26 Thread Matt Shields
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Chris O'Connell omegah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can anyone recommend some open source help desk software?

 Obviously the software should be web based.  I also want to be able to run
 reports about closed items, open items, and who is assigned to what.
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Free:
osTicket
PHP Support Tickets
RT (previously mentioned)

Not free:
PerlDesk
Cerberus Helpdesk

I've used Cerberus for a couple different places and I have some mixed
reviews, at this point with all the changes they have made I don't think I'd
pick them again.

-matt
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Re: Help Desk Software

2011-02-26 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 02/26/2011 10:50 AM, Richard Pieri wrote:
 On Feb 26, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
 Sorry, I meant change control, like tracking hardware, software and other
 changes to systems or softwares.
 Yep, that's change management.  If you're looking for the whole ITIL stack 
 then there isn't a whole lot on the open source front.  OTRS has a full ITIL 
 stack available but I've never used it.

 If all you need is a ticket tracking system then RT should work well.

Actually, RT could do the change management. It is pretty feature rich.

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Re: Help Desk Software

2011-02-26 Thread Rich Braun
Chris O'Connell asked:
 Thanks for the advice.  So the JIRA $10 is a one time purchase price per
 module allowing you to install on your own server?

Yes, you can google for Atlassian starter license:  it's for your own Linux
(or Mac or Windows) server, as opposed to the hosted-app product that a lot of
these companies provide to monetize everything month-to-month.  It's a Tomcat
application, by the way.  Out of the box, it does most of what you want though
you'll quickly find that you want to customize the UI (some basic features
need to be configured), and the learning curve for admin is somewhat steep. 
The company seems to have devoted most of its user-friendliness efforts on the
end-user portions of the UI.

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Help Desk Software

2011-02-25 Thread Chris O'Connell
Can anyone recommend some open source help desk software?

Obviously the software should be web based.  I also want to be able to run
reports about closed items, open items, and who is assigned to what.
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Re: Help Desk Software

2011-02-25 Thread Richard Pieri
On Feb 25, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
 
 Can anyone recommend some open source help desk software?

All ticketing software sucks.  RT sucks less.

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Re: Help Desk Software

2011-02-25 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:52:39PM -0500, Richard Pieri wrote:
 On Feb 25, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
  
  Can anyone recommend some open source help desk software?
 
 All ticketing software sucks.  RT sucks less.

This, with the major caution: the success of help desk software
depends on people actually using it. Motivation is key.

-dsr-


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Re: Help Desk Software

2011-02-25 Thread Bill Horne

On 2/25/2011 9:15 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:52:39PM -0500, Richard Pieri wrote:

On Feb 25, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote:

Can anyone recommend some open source help desk software?

All ticketing software sucks.  RT sucks less.

This, with the major caution: the success of help desk software
depends on people actually using it. Motivation is key.




The success of help-desk software depends on making people /want/ to use 
it! I've seen multiple companies buy expensive does everything 
packages, and then they all wind up wondering why all their customer 
service problems weren't solved as soon as they wrote the check.


Too often, customer support software is crippled by fuzzy thought and 
lazy managers who won't go to the effort - or spend the political 
capital - needed to get their front-line support people a well-defined 
/and enforceable /escalation chain, with access to needed expertise, 
ability to require help from that's so yesterday coders (who are 
always out of time), and with authority to ignore it's not a bug, it's 
a feature salesdroids who want to have all tickets closed before their 
next visit to a customer.


If a support manager /starts/ with a certain software package, he loses: 
at that moment, he is committing himself and his staff to fitting the 
corporation to the software, instead of choosing the software which best 
fits the corporation.


FWIW. YMMV.

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