Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Dictionary Syncing
Hi Sophie is there some news about Dicollect with Olivier? -- Antón Méixome - Blog about Galician Office Suite Galician community OOo.org & LibO http://blog.openoffice.gl // http://blog.libreoffice.gl -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Where can i reports bugs that i've found while using LibreOffice RC2
Salam, Thank you all for this great Alternative to Sharks ! -- Amine Arrahmane Achargui Effectiveness (“Do the right things”) Efficiency (“Do the things right”) Great to see that great projects choose to use great projects to become even greater -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format
Reaction to Italo Vignoli on 3 Jan 10:28 A few reasons to leave writing to OOXML disabled: 1) Nowhere I read a valuable argument to enable writing OOXML, just than adding a feature. (If an option isn't usefull leave it!) 2) Writing in another than native (so ODF) format will give losses. This will decrease the general quality of documents. 3) For MSO users writing to .doc (etc.) is much more usefull, thus sufficient. MSO users, who are not willing to use .doc or wanting more fidelity, are for certain able to import ISO-ODF. 4) Writing to OOXML-transitional will decrease the use of real standards like ISO-ODF. None of my arguments are offending Microsoft, although I am not their fan. So don't add chaos, go for standards, believe in it and spread ODF! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Where can i reports bugs that i've found while using LibreOffice RC2
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:19, amine amine wrote: > Salam, Amine, have a look at this: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport Regards, Nino -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Where can i reports bugs that i've found while using LibreOffice RC2
Salam, Thank you very much! Wallaaho Waliyyo Tawfii9! -- Amine Arrahmane Achargui Effectiveness (“Do the right things”) Efficiency (“Do the things right”) Great to see that great projects choose to use great projects to become even greater -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Bug in LibreOffice RC2 (Impress)
Hello, I just opened an old presentation and recognized a display bug. Reproduction: 1. Create a new Impress Presentation 2. Draw a rectangle. 3. Right-Click on the rectangle and click area. 4. Choose gradients 5. For "type" select "axial" 6. For "angle" select "90 degrees". 7. Click "ok". 8. The area of the rectangle is displayed correctly. 9. Now start the presentation and the color of the rectangle will be incorrect. Tested with Ubuntu 10.04 and LibreOffice RC2. Can anyone reproduce this bug with the same or a different operating system? I remember that OpenOffice.org once had this bug, too (some time ago) but it was fixed. Best regards, Axel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Dictionary Syncing
Hi Anton, On 05/01/2011 13:09, Anton Meixome wrote: Hi Sophie is there some news about Dicollect with Olivier? Yes, he has no time to come on the list right now, but will do later. So I'll resume the current situation. - the code has been removed because he didn't have the time to fix the bugs that was reported/will be reported or enhance it, - he is not very happy with the current state and would like to enhance it - the update management system is far from being perfect. He needs to work on the code to give a more qualitative follow up, it's a big part that needs quiet some work - the other possibility would be to host some other projects on Dicollecte servers (like Latvian is hosted currently but it's an old code version they are using) but that will ask Olivier to spend even morte time in code enhancement and admin services. In short, for the moment he want to finish what he has begin for the French, he is currently working on a grammar corrector. He didn't make the presentation at OOoCon (my mistake sorry) he fell hill but the presentation is here http://www.dicollecte.org/_misc/dicollecte_ooocon2009.pdf The UI has changed a bit since and there has been some enhancements that gives an idea of what is possible. So as for now, Olivier don't have the time to work on it but he will come back when he can show the code again, may be in some months. But he will give you more details when he will come to the list. kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Bug in LibreOffice RC2 (Impress)
I tried it on Linux Mint 10 with LO 3.3 RC2, the color is fine, just the gradient is different. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 14:58, Axel Reimer wrote: > Hello, > > I just opened an old presentation and recognized a display bug. > > Reproduction: > 1. Create a new Impress Presentation > 2. Draw a rectangle. > 3. Right-Click on the rectangle and click area. > 4. Choose gradients > 5. For "type" select "axial" > 6. For "angle" select "90 degrees". > 7. Click "ok". > 8. The area of the rectangle is displayed correctly. > 9. Now start the presentation and the color of the rectangle will be > incorrect. > > Tested with Ubuntu 10.04 and LibreOffice RC2. > > Can anyone reproduce this bug with the same or a different operating > system? > > I remember that OpenOffice.org once had this bug, too (some time ago) > but it was fixed. > > Best regards, > Axel > > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Bug in LibreOffice RC2 (Impress)
Hi Axel, At 14:58 5/01/2011, Axel Reimer wrote: Hello, I just opened an old presentation and recognized a display bug. Reproduction: 1. Create a new Impress Presentation 2. Draw a rectangle. 3. Right-Click on the rectangle and click area. 4. Choose gradients 5. For "type" select "axial" 6. For "angle" select "90 degrees". 7. Click "ok". 8. The area of the rectangle is displayed correctly. 9. Now start the presentation and the color of the rectangle will be incorrect. Tested with Ubuntu 10.04 and LibreOffice RC2. Can anyone reproduce this bug with the same or a different operating system? I remember that OpenOffice.org once had this bug, too (some time ago) but it was fixed. I tried to reproduce the bug in Windows XP SP 3 (UK English edition) with LibreOffice 3.3.0 - OOO330m17 (Build: 3). The colour is still the same but the gradient appears as linear instead of axial. Is that what you meant? Best regards, Christophe Strobbe -- Christophe Strobbe K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD Research Group on Document Architectures Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442 B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee BELGIUM tel: +32 16 32 85 51 http://www.docarch.be/ Twitter: @RabelaisA11y --- "Better products and services through end-user empowerment" www.usem-net.eu - www.stand4all.eu --- Please don't invite me to Facebook, Quechup or other "social networks". You may have agreed to their "privacy policy", but I haven't. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
At 00:19 3/01/2011, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: What do other devs think about including something as mentioned below somehow in regards to a mail client alternative to MS outlook? I've been working without an "integrated e-mail client" for years; it's not a priority for me. However, when I recommended OpenOffice.org to another user (before October last year), she asked if it also contained an Outlook alternative. I replied that alternatives exist elsewhere, e.g. Thunderbird. (I just checked that Corel WordPerfect Office Standard has Lightning and Thunderbird integrated. The toll of Microsoft Office brainwashing? As far as I can tell from the Wikipedia entry, iWork does not have an e-mail client. Nor do SoftMaker Office 2010 or Kingsoft Office 2010.) Without a proper survey, we can probably only guess how many users expect an e-mail cient in an office suite. So I can only offer my opinion: the ability to interface with e-mail clients would be a useful feature. Some users don't want to migrate to another mail client just because it is included in the LibreOffice download, but other users - I'm thinking of users new to office suites and e-mail - may appreciate some handholding. If an e-mail client were integrated in the LibreOffice download, I would like the option to exclude it from the installation and have the office suite interface with my installed client (assuming that it implements the necessary APIs). I haven't mentioned forking an existing mail client; that's because I don't consider it a good way to use TDF community resources. Best regards, Christophe On 1/2/11 7:49 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-01-01 1:43 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an equivalent program such as outlook. Well, I disagree, but there is no way to prove one of us is right, so... There are one of three ways it can be done. 1) fork something like evolution which has all that done and integrate it into the LO suite Evolution is extremely buggy, *especially* on Windows, but yes, even on *nix... Yes, there are many people who run it without problems, but there are far more who complain of constant crashes and bugs, even on the stablest of systems (otherwise)... 2) or install software that already exists in the open source arena. Thunderbird+Lightning would be the best other choice here...not perfect by any stretch, but the only viable FLOSS alternative on Windows at the moment, at least that I am aware of... the problem with 2 is that it will greatly increase the download size, which would pose issues for people with slow bandwidth. Thunderbird+Lightning is not that big... -- Christophe Strobbe K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD Research Group on Document Architectures Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442 B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee BELGIUM tel: +32 16 32 85 51 http://www.docarch.be/ Twitter: @RabelaisA11y --- "Better products and services through end-user empowerment" www.usem-net.eu - www.stand4all.eu --- Please don't invite me to Facebook, Quechup or other "social networks". You may have agreed to their "privacy policy", but I haven't. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice version for Android platform
Hi, I'm afraid to see that I can't find open office for a netbook with Android OS. On Internet, I didn't find information about a LibreOffice version for Android platform. May be someone can tell me if there is a status about this question, is there a study ? Thanks, Jan-Ove -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice version for Android platform
On 11-01-05 10:09 AM, jan...@free.fr wrote: > Hi, > > I'm afraid to see that I can't find open office for a netbook with Android OS. > > On Internet, I didn't find information about a LibreOffice version for > Android platform. > > May be someone can tell me if there is a status about this question, is there > a study ? > > Thanks, > > Jan-Ove > Interesting question. Would you consider joining "Ask LibreOffice" at http://libreoffice.shapado.com/ and asking it there too for wider exposure ? As far as I know there are only two *viewers* supporting the ODF format: ODF viewer: http://www.appbrain.com/app/odf-viewer/com.olidroide OpenOffice Document Reader: http://www.appbrain.com/app/openoffice-document-reader/at.tomtasche.reader The above links are only for convenient installation. You can find the respective official websites here: http://forja.cenatic.es/projects/visorodfmovil http://tomtasche.at/p/OpenOffice Document Reader If anyone has other Android resources about ODF support for it in general, I'd love to hear about them. Cheers, Fabian -- LibreOffice questions ? Des questions sur LibreOffice ? Preguntas acerca de LibreOffice ? Ask LibreOffice: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/ ~ Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Where can i reports bugs that i've found while using LibreOffice RC2
On 11-01-05 06:30 AM, Nino Novak wrote: > On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:19, amine amine wrote: >> Salam, > Amine, > > have a look at this: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport > > Regards, > Nino > I've just updated and augmented the information at that link. Cheers, -- LibreOffice questions ? Des questions sur LibreOffice ? Preguntas acerca de LibreOffice ? Ask LibreOffice: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/ ~ Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will need to have one, and we could give them the option to install one. A home user might opt out of installing it if they don't want an email client On 1/5/11 3:22 PM, Christophe Strobbe wrote: At 00:19 3/01/2011, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: What do other devs think about including something as mentioned below somehow in regards to a mail client alternative to MS outlook? I've been working without an "integrated e-mail client" for years; it's not a priority for me. However, when I recommended OpenOffice.org to another user (before October last year), she asked if it also contained an Outlook alternative. I replied that alternatives exist elsewhere, e.g. Thunderbird. (I just checked that Corel WordPerfect Office Standard has Lightning and Thunderbird integrated. The toll of Microsoft Office brainwashing? As far as I can tell from the Wikipedia entry, iWork does not have an e-mail client. Nor do SoftMaker Office 2010 or Kingsoft Office 2010.) Without a proper survey, we can probably only guess how many users expect an e-mail cient in an office suite. So I can only offer my opinion: the ability to interface with e-mail clients would be a useful feature. Some users don't want to migrate to another mail client just because it is included in the LibreOffice download, but other users - I'm thinking of users new to office suites and e-mail - may appreciate some handholding. If an e-mail client were integrated in the LibreOffice download, I would like the option to exclude it from the installation and have the office suite interface with my installed client (assuming that it implements the necessary APIs). I haven't mentioned forking an existing mail client; that's because I don't consider it a good way to use TDF community resources. Best regards, Christophe On 1/2/11 7:49 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-01-01 1:43 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an equivalent program such as outlook. Well, I disagree, but there is no way to prove one of us is right, so... There are one of three ways it can be done. 1) fork something like evolution which has all that done and integrate it into the LO suite Evolution is extremely buggy, *especially* on Windows, but yes, even on *nix... Yes, there are many people who run it without problems, but there are far more who complain of constant crashes and bugs, even on the stablest of systems (otherwise)... 2) or install software that already exists in the open source arena. Thunderbird+Lightning would be the best other choice here...not perfect by any stretch, but the only viable FLOSS alternative on Windows at the moment, at least that I am aware of... the problem with 2 is that it will greatly increase the download size, which would pose issues for people with slow bandwidth. Thunderbird+Lightning is not that big... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will need to have > one, and we could give them the option to install one. A home user might > opt out of installing it if they don't want an email client Right - well, it depends to a degree on how you define "it" being part of the suite - in the case of LibreOfficeBox, which is the distribution DVD created by the OOoDev team, most of whom are also part of the LibreOffice team the disc includes Thunderbird - so at one level it is at least "bundled" together . (They also include SeaMonkey in that package.) Now there is no English version of that DVD, which I propose is where members of the English speaking community could get involved - it could be recreated in English. For that matter, using the LibreOfficeDVD project as a reference, other groups could form to create alternate "bundles". Following the reference these groups need not be formal projects in TDF but could form as auxiliary projects. Anyway - it just seems to me that when this conversation comes up, as it does from time to time, that this approach never is brought up. Thanks Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
What about bundling it with the downloadable installer? On 1/5/11 5:32 PM, drew wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will need to have one, and we could give them the option to install one. A home user might opt out of installing it if they don't want an email client Right - well, it depends to a degree on how you define "it" being part of the suite - in the case of LibreOfficeBox, which is the distribution DVD created by the OOoDev team, most of whom are also part of the LibreOffice team the disc includes Thunderbird - so at one level it is at least "bundled" together . (They also include SeaMonkey in that package.) Now there is no English version of that DVD, which I propose is where members of the English speaking community could get involved - it could be recreated in English. For that matter, using the LibreOfficeDVD project as a reference, other groups could form to create alternate "bundles". Following the reference these groups need not be formal projects in TDF but could form as auxiliary projects. Anyway - it just seems to me that when this conversation comes up, as it does from time to time, that this approach never is brought up. Thanks Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, drew wrote: > On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: >> If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will need to have >> one, and we could give them the option to install one. A home user might >> opt out of installing it if they don't want an email client > > Right - well, it depends to a degree on how you define "it" being part > of the suite - in the case of LibreOfficeBox, which is the distribution > DVD created by the OOoDev team, most of whom are also part of the > LibreOffice team the disc includes Thunderbird - so at one level it is > at least "bundled" together . (They also include SeaMonkey in that > package.) > > Now there is no English version of that DVD, which I propose is where > members of the English speaking community could get involved - it could > be recreated in English. > > For that matter, using the LibreOfficeDVD project as a reference, other > groups could form to create alternate "bundles". Following the reference > these groups need not be formal projects in TDF but could form as > auxiliary projects. > > Anyway - it just seems to me that when this conversation comes up, as it > does from time to time, that this approach never is brought up. > > Thanks > > Drew Rather than having other groups providing bundles, what about an alliance of a few groups that provide a single, comprehensive installer? For instance perhaps LibreOffice, Mozzila, Gimp, and Inkscape come together and release one installer with all those apps bundled in. It would be any single group or member responsible, instead an agreement between the groups to release it. Then on the respective websites they could release their own app, as well as the bundle for those who want it. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
Funny you mention it i just replied with a similar response about bundling said software as part of the downloadable installer. On 1/5/11 5:39 PM, Todd rme wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, drew wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will need to have one, and we could give them the option to install one. A home user might opt out of installing it if they don't want an email client Right - well, it depends to a degree on how you define "it" being part of the suite - in the case of LibreOfficeBox, which is the distribution DVD created by the OOoDev team, most of whom are also part of the LibreOffice team the disc includes Thunderbird - so at one level it is at least "bundled" together . (They also include SeaMonkey in that package.) Now there is no English version of that DVD, which I propose is where members of the English speaking community could get involved - it could be recreated in English. For that matter, using the LibreOfficeDVD project as a reference, other groups could form to create alternate "bundles". Following the reference these groups need not be formal projects in TDF but could form as auxiliary projects. Anyway - it just seems to me that when this conversation comes up, as it does from time to time, that this approach never is brought up. Thanks Drew Rather than having other groups providing bundles, what about an alliance of a few groups that provide a single, comprehensive installer? For instance perhaps LibreOffice, Mozzila, Gimp, and Inkscape come together and release one installer with all those apps bundled in. It would be any single group or member responsible, instead an agreement between the groups to release it. Then on the respective websites they could release their own app, as well as the bundle for those who want it. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:38 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > What about bundling it with the downloadable installer? I think that there are legitimately two separate items here: LibreOffice - the application suite LibreOffice focused distribution Right now, IMO, there is no consensus for adding an email client into the application suite, but there is much interest from many community members to bundle. This bundling takes place all the time actually - If you think about it this is no different from what the different Linux distro's do, at least on the surface. More then that however individuals and small teams do it all the time - a classic case is Cofry over at the OO.o web forums (I notice he is now active at LibreOfficeForum.org also) - he for a number of years produced a Christmas CD - it was his take of what packages would best introduce a Windows user to FOSS, OO.o was one of the key packages. So in the case of LibreOffice it makes sense to have this one singular project responsible for producing the suite, and even to have a reference ISO for a simple disk of LibreOffice binaries. But distribution can also focus on particular user groups, this can be functional or it can be regional (Language) specific. Here I think that trying to control this from TDF is counter productive - the best return for the project at a whole would to be to encourage packages to form teams to address these different niche use cases. Thanks Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice version for Android platform
On 11-01-05 10:09 AM, jan...@free.fr wrote: > Hi, > > I'm afraid to see that I can't find open office for a netbook with Android OS. > > On Internet, I didn't find information about a LibreOffice version for > Android platform. > > May be someone can tell me if there is a status about this question, is there > a study ? > > Thanks, > > Jan-Ove > I am told the OpenOffice Document Reader version in F-Droid is built from source and more recent: http://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=at.tomtasche.reader Cheers, Fabian -- LibreOffice questions ? Des questions sur LibreOffice ? Preguntas acerca de LibreOffice ? Ask LibreOffice: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/ ~ Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
I was about to suggest something along a similar line, and that fits perfectly well within it... Instead of bundling an email client with LibreOffice, I suggest as part of the installer the option be provided to download and install one. For instance, the installer could list an Email line which users could expand to show Thunderbird, selecting Thunderbird would then download the _latest_ Thunderbird release, and start its installer. That would, of course, require an Internet connection at the time the installer runs; but would save on the download space for everyone. It would also enable the installer to select the right locale installer for Thunderbird too (if necessary). The same could be done for Firefox/Opera/etc. Additionally, this approach would allow the installer to present several choices - e.g. Firefox vs. Opera; Thunderbird vs. Evolution. Now, taking that line of thinking - a separate project[1] to enable users to get OO/LO/Calligra/Thunderbird/Evolution/Firefox/etc via a single installer would probably be a great thing; and further having _plug-ins_ that would enable them to inter-operate would also be a great thing if that was desired, and it could be provided as part of the installer package. $0.02 Ben [1] I wouldn't make such an installer part of LO officially. May be another TDF project, or another entity all-together (FreeDesktop.org might be the best organization to handle it.) - Original Message > From: Jonathan Aquilina > To: discuss@documentfoundation.org > Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 11:43:52 AM > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc > > Funny you mention it i just replied with a similar response about > bundling said software as part of the downloadable installer. > > On 1/5/11 5:39 PM, Todd rme wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, drew wrote: > >> On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > >>> If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will need to have > >>> one, and we could give them the option to install one. A home user might > >>> opt out of installing it if they don't want an email client > >> Right - well, it depends to a degree on how you define "it" being part > >> of the suite - in the case of LibreOfficeBox, which is the distribution > >> DVD created by the OOoDev team, most of whom are also part of the > >> LibreOffice team the disc includes Thunderbird - so at one level it is > >> at least "bundled" together . (They also include SeaMonkey in that > >> package.) > >> > >> Now there is no English version of that DVD, which I propose is where > >> members of the English speaking community could get involved - it could > >> be recreated in English. > >> > >> For that matter, using the LibreOfficeDVD project as a reference, other > >> groups could form to create alternate "bundles". Following the reference > >> these groups need not be formal projects in TDF but could form as > >> auxiliary projects. > >> > >> Anyway - it just seems to me that when this conversation comes up, as it > >> does from time to time, that this approach never is brought up. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Drew > > Rather than having other groups providing bundles, what about an > > alliance of a few groups that provide a single, comprehensive > > installer? For instance perhaps LibreOffice, Mozzila, Gimp, and > > Inkscape come together and release one installer with all those apps > > bundled in. It would be any single group or member responsible, > > instead an agreement between the groups to release it. Then on the > > respective websites they could release their own app, as well as the > > bundle for those who want it. > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
One problem would be Linux i think with this approach. Instead of making a bundle for each specific distro i think we would have the package management GUI pop up of that particular distro and will automatically in the search put in Thunderbird for instance and will allow it to appear in front and then just click and install that way. Would love to hear some feed back from some of the big time devs on this project about doing this. On 1/5/11 6:13 PM, BRM wrote: I was about to suggest something along a similar line, and that fits perfectly well within it... Instead of bundling an email client with LibreOffice, I suggest as part of the installer the option be provided to download and install one. For instance, the installer could list an Email line which users could expand to show Thunderbird, selecting Thunderbird would then download the _latest_ Thunderbird release, and start its installer. That would, of course, require an Internet connection at the time the installer runs; but would save on the download space for everyone. It would also enable the installer to select the right locale installer for Thunderbird too (if necessary). The same could be done for Firefox/Opera/etc. Additionally, this approach would allow the installer to present several choices - e.g. Firefox vs. Opera; Thunderbird vs. Evolution. Now, taking that line of thinking - a separate project[1] to enable users to get OO/LO/Calligra/Thunderbird/Evolution/Firefox/etc via a single installer would probably be a great thing; and further having _plug-ins_ that would enable them to inter-operate would also be a great thing if that was desired, and it could be provided as part of the installer package. $0.02 Ben [1] I wouldn't make such an installer part of LO officially. May be another TDF project, or another entity all-together (FreeDesktop.org might be the best organization to handle it.) - Original Message From: Jonathan Aquilina To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 11:43:52 AM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc Funny you mention it i just replied with a similar response about bundling said software as part of the downloadable installer. On 1/5/11 5:39 PM, Todd rme wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, drewwrote: On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will need to have one, and we could give them the option to install one. A home user might opt out of installing it if they don't want an email client Right - well, it depends to a degree on how you define "it" being part of the suite - in the case of LibreOfficeBox, which is the distribution DVD created by the OOoDev team, most of whom are also part of the LibreOffice team the disc includes Thunderbird - so at one level it is at least "bundled" together . (They also include SeaMonkey in that package.) Now there is no English version of that DVD, which I propose is where members of the English speaking community could get involved - it could be recreated in English. For that matter, using the LibreOfficeDVD project as a reference, other groups could form to create alternate "bundles". Following the reference these groups need not be formal projects in TDF but could form as auxiliary projects. Anyway - it just seems to me that when this conversation comes up, as it does from time to time, that this approach never is brought up. Thanks Drew Rather than having other groups providing bundles, what about an alliance of a few groups that provide a single, comprehensive installer? For instance perhaps LibreOffice, Mozzila, Gimp, and Inkscape come together and release one installer with all those apps bundled in. It would be any single group or member responsible, instead an agreement between the groups to release it. Then on the respective websites they could release their own app, as well as the bundle for those who want it. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Co-working with Moz, etc
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 00:33 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Isn't that what the goal is of this project to slowly eat away > at Microsoft's majority market share? it's not my goal - or at least it is not the goal - I would prefer to work on delivering a very good tool to the user base. I would like to expand the idea of openness and I am most certainly hoping to act in some small way as a counter balance to the big-corporate culture. Eating away at MSO market share is a side-effect really. I would like to embrace MSO, to welcome there still feeble steps into the open source model and to most certainly hold their feet to the fire when it comes to using recognized standards. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
I think such a project would have to focus really on Windows and perhaps Mac. Most Linux systems use package management software, often vary different. Some (e.g. gentoo) do not have a GUI interface at all. And honestly, the only place this is really a problem is on Windows, with Mac as a runner up. I'm pretty sure there isn't an issue on any other platform. But as I said - it's really a project for another entity to take control of - whether another project managed by TDF, or by someone else entirely, like FreeDesktop.org. Ben - Original Message > From: Jonathan Aquilina > To: discuss@documentfoundation.org > Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 12:19:31 PM > Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc > > One problem would be Linux i think with this approach. Instead of making > a bundle for each specific distro i think we would have the package > management GUI pop up of that particular distro and will automatically > in the search put in Thunderbird for instance and will allow it to > appear in front and then just click and install that way. > > Would love to hear some feed back from some of the big time devs on this > project about doing this. > > On 1/5/11 6:13 PM, BRM wrote: > > I was about to suggest something along a similar line, and that fits >perfectly > > well within it... > > > > Instead of bundling an email client with LibreOffice, I suggest as part of > > >the > > installer the option be provided to download and install one. > > For instance, the installer could list an Email line which users could >expand to > > show Thunderbird, selecting Thunderbird would then download the _latest_ > > Thunderbird release, and start its installer. > > That would, of course, require an Internet connection at the time the >installer > > runs; but would save on the download space for everyone. It would also >enable > > the installer to select the right locale installer for Thunderbird too (if > > necessary). The same could be done for Firefox/Opera/etc. > > > > Additionally, this approach would allow the installer to present several >choices > > - e.g. Firefox vs. Opera; Thunderbird vs. Evolution. > > > > Now, taking that line of thinking - a separate project[1] to enable users > > to >get > > OO/LO/Calligra/Thunderbird/Evolution/Firefox/etc via a single installer >would > > probably be a great thing; and further having _plug-ins_ that would enable >them > > to inter-operate would also be a great thing if that was desired, and it >could > > be provided as part of the installer package. > > > > $0.02 > > > > Ben > > > > [1] I wouldn't make such an installer part of LO officially. May be > > another >TDF > > project, or another entity all-together (FreeDesktop.org might be the best > > organization to handle it.) > > > > > > > > - Original Message > >> From: Jonathan Aquilina > >> To: discuss@documentfoundation.org > >> Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 11:43:52 AM > >> Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc > >> > >> Funny you mention it i just replied with a similar response about > >> bundling said software as part of the downloadable installer. > >> > >> On 1/5/11 5:39 PM, Todd rme wrote: > >>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, drew wrote: > On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will need to have > > one, and we could give them the option to install one. A home user >might > > opt out of installing it if they don't want an email client > Right - well, it depends to a degree on how you define "it" being part > of the suite - in the case of LibreOfficeBox, which is the distribution > DVD created by the OOoDev team, most of whom are also part of the > LibreOffice team the disc includes Thunderbird - so at one level it is > at least "bundled" together . (They also include SeaMonkey in that > package.) > > Now there is no English version of that DVD, which I propose is where > members of the English speaking community could get involved - it could > be recreated in English. > > For that matter, using the LibreOfficeDVD project as a reference, other > groups could form to create alternate "bundles". Following the >reference > these groups need not be formal projects in TDF but could form as > auxiliary projects. > > Anyway - it just seems to me that when this conversation comes up, as it > does from time to time, that this approach never is brought up. > > Thanks > > Drew > >>> Rather than having other groups providing bundles, what about an > >>> alliance of a few groups that provide a single, comprehensive > >>> installer? For instance perhaps LibreOffice, Mozzila, Gimp, and > >>> Inkscape come together and release one installer with all those apps > >>
Re: [tdf-discuss] Bug in LibreOffice RC2 (Impress)
Hello, Am Mittwoch, den 05.01.2011, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Christophe Strobbe: > Hi Axel, > > At 14:58 5/01/2011, Axel Reimer wrote: > >Hello, I just opened an old presentation and recognized a display bug. > >Reproduction: > >1. Create a new Impress Presentation > >2. Draw a rectangle. > >3. Right-Click on the rectangle and click area. > >4. Choose gradients > >5. For "type" select "axial" > >6. For "angle" select "90 degrees". > >7. Click "ok". > >8. The area of the rectangle is displayed correctly. > >9. Now start the presentation and the color of the rectangle will be > >incorrect. > > > >Tested with Ubuntu 10.04 and LibreOffice RC2. Can anyone reproduce > >this bug with the same or a different operating system? I remember > >that OpenOffice.org once had this bug, too (some time ago) but it was fixed. > > I tried to reproduce the bug in Windows XP SP 3 (UK English edition) > with LibreOffice 3.3.0 - OOO330m17 (Build: 3). > The colour is still the same but the gradient appears as linear > instead of axial. Is that what you meant? > I am sorry - that was exactly what I meant. Do you know if this bug is known? Best regards, Axel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Dictionary Syncing
2011/1/5 sophie : > Hi Anton, > On 05/01/2011 13:09, Anton Meixome wrote: >> >> Hi Sophie >> is there some news about Dicollect with Olivier? > > Yes, he has no time to come on the list right now, but will do later. > So I'll resume the current situation. > - the code has been removed because he didn't have the time to fix the bugs > that was reported/will be reported or enhance it, > - he is not very happy with the current state and would like to enhance it > - the update management system is far from being perfect. He needs to work > on the code to give a more qualitative follow up, it's a big part that needs > quiet some work > - the other possibility would be to host some other projects on Dicollecte > servers (like Latvian is hosted currently but it's an old code version they > are using) but that will ask Olivier to spend even morte time in code > enhancement and admin services. > > In short, for the moment he want to finish what he has begin for the French, > he is currently working on a grammar corrector. > He didn't make the presentation at OOoCon (my mistake sorry) he fell hill > but the presentation is here > http://www.dicollecte.org/_misc/dicollecte_ooocon2009.pdf > The UI has changed a bit since and there has been some enhancements that > gives an idea of what is possible. > > So as for now, Olivier don't have the time to work on it but he will come > back when he can show the code again, may be in some months. But he will > give you more details when he will come to the list. > > kind regards > Sophie > Thanks, I understand the current situation and I can't help him but I will stay tuned ;-) > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Antón Méixome - Blog about Galician Office Suite Galician community OOo.org & LibO http://blog.openoffice.gl // http://blog.libreoffice.gl -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Bug in LibreOffice RC2 (Impress)
Hi Axel, Axel Reimer schrieb: Hello, Am Mittwoch, den 05.01.2011, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Christophe Strobbe: Hi Axel, At 14:58 5/01/2011, Axel Reimer wrote: Hello, I just opened an old presentation and recognized a display bug. Reproduction: 1. Create a new Impress Presentation 2. Draw a rectangle. 3. Right-Click on the rectangle and click area. 4. Choose gradients 5. For "type" select "axial" 6. For "angle" select "90 degrees". 7. Click "ok". 8. The area of the rectangle is displayed correctly. 9. Now start the presentation and the color of the rectangle will be incorrect. Tested with Ubuntu 10.04 and LibreOffice RC2. Can anyone reproduce this bug with the same or a different operating system? I remember that OpenOffice.org once had this bug, too (some time ago) but it was fixed. I tried to reproduce the bug in Windows XP SP 3 (UK English edition) with LibreOffice 3.3.0 - OOO330m17 (Build: 3). The colour is still the same but the gradient appears as linear instead of axial. Is that what you meant? I am sorry - that was exactly what I meant. Do you know if this bug is known? I cannot find any issue, neither for LibreOffice nor in OOo Issuetracker. The error is independent of the rotation. It has been introduced from DEV300m76 to DEV300m77 and is in OOo33RC8 too. It seems that the border is not added symmetrically. Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Bug in LibreOffice RC2 (Impress)
Hi Axel, I have written http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=116318 BTW: How to handle issues, which are not specific to LibreOffice? I don't like writing issues twice. Kind regards Regina Axel Reimer schrieb: Hello, Am Mittwoch, den 05.01.2011, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Christophe Strobbe: Hi Axel, At 14:58 5/01/2011, Axel Reimer wrote: Hello, I just opened an old presentation and recognized a display bug. Reproduction: 1. Create a new Impress Presentation 2. Draw a rectangle. 3. Right-Click on the rectangle and click area. 4. Choose gradients 5. For "type" select "axial" 6. For "angle" select "90 degrees". 7. Click "ok". 8. The area of the rectangle is displayed correctly. 9. Now start the presentation and the color of the rectangle will be incorrect. Tested with Ubuntu 10.04 and LibreOffice RC2. Can anyone reproduce this bug with the same or a different operating system? I remember that OpenOffice.org once had this bug, too (some time ago) but it was fixed. I tried to reproduce the bug in Windows XP SP 3 (UK English edition) with LibreOffice 3.3.0 - OOO330m17 (Build: 3). The colour is still the same but the gradient appears as linear instead of axial. Is that what you meant? I am sorry - that was exactly what I meant. Do you know if this bug is known? Best regards, Axel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Bug in LibreOffice RC2 (Impress)
It is possible this problem may have been introduced by the addition of free-motion paths I drove forward in the last major revision since I don't recall seeing it before. On the other hand, I also don't recall seeing them after the change either. Does anyone know when it began to happen? Have any old versions around we can check, for example. On 05/01/2011 21:45, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Axel, > > I have written > http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=116318 > > BTW: How to handle issues, which are not specific to LibreOffice? I > don't like writing issues twice. > > Kind regards > Regina > > > Axel Reimer schrieb: >> Hello, >> >> Am Mittwoch, den 05.01.2011, 15:39 +0100 schrieb Christophe Strobbe: >>> Hi Axel, >>> >>> At 14:58 5/01/2011, Axel Reimer wrote: Hello, I just opened an old presentation and recognized a display bug. Reproduction: 1. Create a new Impress Presentation 2. Draw a rectangle. 3. Right-Click on the rectangle and click area. 4. Choose gradients 5. For "type" select "axial" 6. For "angle" select "90 degrees". 7. Click "ok". 8. The area of the rectangle is displayed correctly. 9. Now start the presentation and the color of the rectangle will be incorrect. Tested with Ubuntu 10.04 and LibreOffice RC2. Can anyone reproduce this bug with the same or a different operating system? I remember that OpenOffice.org once had this bug, too (some time ago) but it was fixed. >>> >>> I tried to reproduce the bug in Windows XP SP 3 (UK English edition) >>> with LibreOffice 3.3.0 - OOO330m17 (Build: 3). >>> The colour is still the same but the gradient appears as linear >>> instead of axial. Is that what you meant? >>> >> >> I am sorry - that was exactly what I meant. Do you know if this bug is >> known? >> >> Best regards, >> Axel >> >> > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
I would be interested in heading something like this up as I am a mac user as well as win and lin On 1/5/11 8:02 PM, BRM wrote: I think such a project would have to focus really on Windows and perhaps Mac. Most Linux systems use package management software, often vary different. Some (e.g. gentoo) do not have a GUI interface at all. And honestly, the only place this is really a problem is on Windows, with Mac as a runner up. I'm pretty sure there isn't an issue on any other platform. But as I said - it's really a project for another entity to take control of - whether another project managed by TDF, or by someone else entirely, like FreeDesktop.org. Ben - Original Message From: Jonathan Aquilina To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 12:19:31 PM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc One problem would be Linux i think with this approach. Instead of making a bundle for each specific distro i think we would have the package management GUI pop up of that particular distro and will automatically in the search put in Thunderbird for instance and will allow it to appear in front and then just click and install that way. Would love to hear some feed back from some of the big time devs on this project about doing this. On 1/5/11 6:13 PM, BRM wrote: I was about to suggest something along a similar line, and that fits perfectly well within it... Instead of bundling an email client with LibreOffice, I suggest as part of the installer the option be provided to download and install one. For instance, the installer could list an Email line which users could expand to show Thunderbird, selecting Thunderbird would then download the _latest_ Thunderbird release, and start its installer. That would, of course, require an Internet connection at the time the installer runs; but would save on the download space for everyone. It would also enable the installer to select the right locale installer for Thunderbird too (if necessary). The same could be done for Firefox/Opera/etc. Additionally, this approach would allow the installer to present several choices - e.g. Firefox vs. Opera; Thunderbird vs. Evolution. Now, taking that line of thinking - a separate project[1] to enable users to get OO/LO/Calligra/Thunderbird/Evolution/Firefox/etc via a single installer would probably be a great thing; and further having _plug-ins_ that would enable them to inter-operate would also be a great thing if that was desired, and it could be provided as part of the installer package. $0.02 Ben [1] I wouldn't make such an installer part of LO officially. May be another TDF project, or another entity all-together (FreeDesktop.org might be the best organization to handle it.) - Original Message From: Jonathan Aquilina To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 11:43:52 AM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc Funny you mention it i just replied with a similar response about bundling said software as part of the downloadable installer. On 1/5/11 5:39 PM, Todd rme wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:32 AM, drew wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:11 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: If we are looking to promote this to corporations it will need to have one, and we could give them the option to install one. A home user might opt out of installing it if they don't want an email client Right - well, it depends to a degree on how you define "it" being part of the suite - in the case of LibreOfficeBox, which is the distribution DVD created by the OOoDev team, most of whom are also part of the LibreOffice team the disc includes Thunderbird - so at one level it is at least "bundled" together . (They also include SeaMonkey in that package.) Now there is no English version of that DVD, which I propose is where members of the English speaking community could get involved - it could be recreated in English. For that matter, using the LibreOfficeDVD project as a reference, other groups could form to create alternate "bundles". Following the reference these groups need not be formal projects in TDF but could form as auxiliary projects. Anyway - it just seems to me that when this conversation comes up, as it does from time to time, that this approach never is brought up. Thanks Drew Rather than having other groups providing bundles, what about an alliance of a few groups that provide a single, comprehensive installer? For instance perhaps LibreOffice, Mozzila, Gimp, and Inkscape come together and release one installer with all those apps bundled in. It would be any single group or member responsible, instead an agreement between the groups to release it. Then on the respective websites they could release their own app, as well as the bundle for those who want it. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+
Re: [tdf-discuss] Bug in LibreOffice RC2 (Impress)
Hi Regina, 2011/1/5 Regina Henschel : > I have written > http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=116318 > > BTW: How to handle issues, which are not specific to LibreOffice? I don't > like writing issues twice. > I think this has to be done from the point when we are leaving the OOo-Codeline behind us. At the moment you should watch the issue if it can become a blocker for the OOo release. If not, it might be necessary to fix it in LO separately. Bye Volker -- ++ Volker Merschmann - ODF-Software Contributor -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:52 -0800, Carl Symons wrote: > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 3:30 AM, Olivier Hallot > wrote: > > > > > > > I clicked on the "list of events" link on > http://www.documentfoundation.org/. There are several events listed > for North America. Would TDF consider being at LinuxFest Northwest in > Bellingham, 4/30 & 5/1? There will be an official call for papers in > early January, but people can register at www.linuxfestnorthwest.org. > LFNW is a true open source expo, free admission, completely run by > volunteers...one of the longest running Fests in the US. > > If there are LibOers in the Pacific NW, please contact me off-list if > you'd like to help put together a LibreOffice track. We are looking > for presentations for people who are new to FOSS. > Hi Carl Sorry for a few days delay here - Indeed the event was added to the wiki and there is a potential volunteer for staffing a booth at the fest. As Italo mentioned this has been discussed in the last couple of days over on the US-Marketing list. Looking at what resources can be put together for the booth. If you can get a track together that would be great, or if you can help in the booth or finding others to help in the booth, also wonderful. - I went ahead and sent this to your direct email feel free to contact me direct, but it would be better to coordinate things on the list, primarily. There are other US specific subjects that I would really like to get peoples input on, so it would be really nice to see you join us there. Thanks much, Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Bug in LibreOffice RC2 (Impress)
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Axel Reimer wrote:
>> I tried to reproduce the bug in Windows XP SP 3 (UK English edition)
>> with LibreOffice 3.3.0 - OOO330m17 (Build: 3).
>> The colour is still the same but the gradient appears as linear
>> instead of axial. Is that what you meant?
>>
>
> I am sorry - that was exactly what I meant. Do you know if this bug is
> known?
You should include a screenshot illustrating the bug
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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice version for Android platform
2011/1/6 Fabián Rodríguez :
> I am told the OpenOffice Document Reader version in F-Droid is built
> from source and more recent:
> http://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=at.tomtasche.reader
It seems that at.tomtasche.reader is a frontend of jOpenDocument (GPL'ed)
# http://www.jopendocument.org/, written in Java of course.
jOpenDocument is a free library for developers looking to use Open
Document files without OpenOffice.org.
that says, jOpenDocument is not OOo nor LibO.
# This may sound stupid...
I am not sure if we can make, for example, a ODF file viewer using
pure UNO on Android?
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
I believe integrating Thunderbird would be more a marketing move than anything else, but marketing is very effective!!! So that's why I think it would be great if Thunderbird could be integrated automatically with LO. As I said before, a sort of container that can select the applications ti be installed, probably giving the option by installation to select the individual appliciations: Writer(Text P.), Calc(Spreadsheet), Impress(Presentations),..., Thunderbird(E-Mail), Lightning(Calendar). Cheers! Jaime R. Garza On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 15:22, Christophe Strobbe < christophe.stro...@esat.kuleuven.be> wrote: > > At 00:19 3/01/2011, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > >> What do other devs think about including something as mentioned below >> somehow in regards to a mail client alternative to MS outlook? >> > > I've been working without an "integrated e-mail client" for years; it's not > a priority for me. However, when I recommended OpenOffice.org to another > user (before October last year), she asked if it also contained an Outlook > alternative. I replied that alternatives exist elsewhere, e.g. Thunderbird. > (I just checked that Corel WordPerfect Office Standard has Lightning and > Thunderbird integrated. The toll of Microsoft Office brainwashing? As far as > I can tell from the Wikipedia entry, iWork does not have an e-mail client. > Nor do SoftMaker Office 2010 or Kingsoft Office 2010.) > > Without a proper survey, we can probably only guess how many users expect > an e-mail cient in an office suite. > So I can only offer my opinion: the ability to interface with e-mail > clients would be a useful feature. Some users don't want to migrate to > another mail client just because it is included in the LibreOffice download, > but other users - I'm thinking of users new to office suites and e-mail - > may appreciate some handholding. If an e-mail client were integrated in the > LibreOffice download, I would like the option to exclude it from the > installation and have the office suite interface with my installed client > (assuming that it implements the necessary APIs). > > I haven't mentioned forking an existing mail client; that's because I don't > consider it a good way to use TDF community resources. > > Best regards, > > Christophe > > > > On 1/2/11 7:49 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: >> >>> On 2011-01-01 1:43 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: >>> Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an equivalent program such as outlook. >>> Well, I disagree, but there is no way to prove one of us is right, so... >>> >>> There are one of three ways it can be done. 1) fork something like evolution which has all that done and integrate it into the LO suite >>> Evolution is extremely buggy, *especially* on Windows, but yes, even on >>> *nix... Yes, there are many people who run it without problems, but >>> there are far more who complain of constant crashes and bugs, even on >>> the stablest of systems (otherwise)... >>> >>> 2) or install software that already exists in the open source arena. >>> Thunderbird+Lightning would be the best other choice here...not perfect >>> by any stretch, but the only viable FLOSS alternative on Windows at the >>> moment, at least that I am aware of... >>> >>> the problem with 2 is that it will greatly increase the download size, which would pose issues for people with slow bandwidth. >>> Thunderbird+Lightning is not that big... >>> >> > > -- > Christophe Strobbe > K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD > Research Group on Document Architectures > Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442 > B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee > BELGIUM > tel: +32 16 32 85 51 > http://www.docarch.be/ > Twitter: @RabelaisA11y > --- > "Better products and services through end-user empowerment" > www.usem-net.eu - www.stand4all.eu > --- > Please don't invite me to Facebook, Quechup or other "social networks". You > may have agreed to their "privacy policy", but I haven't. > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice version for Android platform
Why not make a browser extension for Chrome & Firefox?
So that any device running a browser can read directly ODF Files.
Cheers!
Jaime R. Garza
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 06:24, Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:
> 2011/1/6 Fabián Rodríguez :
> > I am told the OpenOffice Document Reader version in F-Droid is built
> > from source and more recent:
> > http://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=at.tomtasche.reader
>
> It seems that at.tomtasche.reader is a frontend of jOpenDocument (GPL'ed)
>
> # http://www.jopendocument.org/, written in Java of course.
>
>
> jOpenDocument is a free library for developers looking to use Open
> Document files without OpenOffice.org.
>
>
> that says, jOpenDocument is not OOo nor LibO.
>
> # This may sound stupid...
> I am not sure if we can make, for example, a ODF file viewer using
> pure UNO on Android?
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Co-working with Moz, etc
I agree with you totally here Jaime. On 01/06/2011 07:30 AM, Jaime R. Garza wrote: I believe integrating Thunderbird would be more a marketing move than anything else, but marketing is very effective!!! So that's why I think it would be great if Thunderbird could be integrated automatically with LO. As I said before, a sort of container that can select the applications ti be installed, probably giving the option by installation to select the individual appliciations: Writer(Text P.), Calc(Spreadsheet), Impress(Presentations),..., Thunderbird(E-Mail), Lightning(Calendar). Cheers! Jaime R. Garza On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 15:22, Christophe Strobbe< christophe.stro...@esat.kuleuven.be> wrote: At 00:19 3/01/2011, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: What do other devs think about including something as mentioned below somehow in regards to a mail client alternative to MS outlook? I've been working without an "integrated e-mail client" for years; it's not a priority for me. However, when I recommended OpenOffice.org to another user (before October last year), she asked if it also contained an Outlook alternative. I replied that alternatives exist elsewhere, e.g. Thunderbird. (I just checked that Corel WordPerfect Office Standard has Lightning and Thunderbird integrated. The toll of Microsoft Office brainwashing? As far as I can tell from the Wikipedia entry, iWork does not have an e-mail client. Nor do SoftMaker Office 2010 or Kingsoft Office 2010.) Without a proper survey, we can probably only guess how many users expect an e-mail cient in an office suite. So I can only offer my opinion: the ability to interface with e-mail clients would be a useful feature. Some users don't want to migrate to another mail client just because it is included in the LibreOffice download, but other users - I'm thinking of users new to office suites and e-mail - may appreciate some handholding. If an e-mail client were integrated in the LibreOffice download, I would like the option to exclude it from the installation and have the office suite interface with my installed client (assuming that it implements the necessary APIs). I haven't mentioned forking an existing mail client; that's because I don't consider it a good way to use TDF community resources. Best regards, Christophe On 1/2/11 7:49 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-01-01 1:43 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an equivalent program such as outlook. Well, I disagree, but there is no way to prove one of us is right, so... There are one of three ways it can be done. 1) fork something like evolution which has all that done and integrate it into the LO suite Evolution is extremely buggy, *especially* on Windows, but yes, even on *nix... Yes, there are many people who run it without problems, but there are far more who complain of constant crashes and bugs, even on the stablest of systems (otherwise)... 2) or install software that already exists in the open source arena. Thunderbird+Lightning would be the best other choice here...not perfect by any stretch, but the only viable FLOSS alternative on Windows at the moment, at least that I am aware of... the problem with 2 is that it will greatly increase the download size, which would pose issues for people with slow bandwidth. Thunderbird+Lightning is not that big... -- Christophe Strobbe K.U.Leuven - Dept. of Electrical Engineering - SCD Research Group on Document Architectures Kasteelpark Arenberg 10 bus 2442 B-3001 Leuven-Heverlee BELGIUM tel: +32 16 32 85 51 http://www.docarch.be/ Twitter: @RabelaisA11y --- "Better products and services through end-user empowerment" www.usem-net.eu - www.stand4all.eu --- Please don't invite me to Facebook, Quechup or other "social networks". You may have agreed to their "privacy policy", but I haven't. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
