[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

[Florian Effenberger]

Hello,

together with their Linux migration team (LiMux), we’re planning a 
LibreOffice Hackfest in the City of Munich, Germany. To determine the 
best date for it, let us know all your possible dates! Like last time, 
the Hackfest is open for newbies as well as for routined hackers. More 
details will follow soon, but first, we need the date. So, let’s vote!


The poll is at http://doodle.com/i7pw9wubvdhdyzm4

NOTE: The Hackfest will run from Friday evening to Sunday lunchtime. For 
the ease of voting, we have just mentioned the respective Saturday.


Let's hack!
Florian

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Troubles with file associations - Win XP

[plino]

There were some problems with associations especially in previous versions of
LO. Because LO and OOo executables have the same name, this confuses Windows
:)

Reinstalling and checking the file association boxed will probably fix it.

But you can solve it by right-clicking on the ODS file, choose Open With,
Choose Program, select LibreOffice Calc from the list and check the "Always
use the selected program to open this kind of files" box before pressing OK
;)

Enjoy :)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

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[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

[Marc Paré]

Le 2011-05-27 04:41, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hello,

together with their Linux migration team (LiMux), we’re planning a
LibreOffice Hackfest in the City of Munich, Germany. To determine the
best date for it, let us know all your possible dates! Like last time,
the Hackfest is open for newbies as well as for routined hackers. More
details will follow soon, but first, we need the date. So, let’s vote!

The poll is at http://doodle.com/i7pw9wubvdhdyzm4

NOTE: The Hackfest will run from Friday evening to Sunday lunchtime. For
the ease of voting, we have just mentioned the respective Saturday.

Let's hack!
Florian



Hi Florian

Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be 
there in person or can you participate remotely?


Cheers

Marc


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2011-05-27 15.31:

Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be
there in person or can you participate remotely?


the event is planned on-site. Maybe we can get some remote connection 
involved, but primarily, it is for hacking at the place :)


Florian

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[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-design] Templates, styles, outline and bullets/numbering

[Octavio Alvarez]

Hi, Steve!

On Sun, 22 May 2011 17:25:09 -0700, Steve Edmonds
 wrote:
The documentation at  
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/6/6e/0103GS3-StylesAndTemplates.pdf  
doesn't explain how they work and possibly if I can gain a better  
understanding I can update the wiki with a view to distilling the  
information I garner into something simple for the bulk of average users.


Page 5 explains pretty much everything, I think.

Maybe it is clearer to say it this way: styles set defaults for a "kind"
of paragraph, so you can have all your titles look the same.

You apply the paragraph style "Heading 1" to all your first-level
headings. You can redefine the "Heading 1" with different attributes (like
bold and some top spacing) and you will see all of them being uniformly
updated. If you don't apply any kind of direct formatting, all will look
the same.

For paragraph attributes (indents, tabs, spacing...) the computed
attributes will be those applied by the paragraph style, overridden by
whatever direct paragraph formatting (indents, etc.) you apply.

For character attributes (bold, font size...) the computed attributes will
be those set by the paragraph style, overridden by those set by the
character style, and then overridden by whatever direct formatting.

Just consider the following: A style will inherit all undefined attributes
from its parent style (which, in turn, may inherit attributes from its own
parent style, up the way to Default).

These are the basics, but should get you started. If you know HTML/CSS,
styles are similar to classes.

As this ultimately may end up with design consequences, should the  
discussion be in one list or the other of both?


Design, I think. Other people have suggested some ideas. Some good, some
not so much.

To start with, what is the underlying construction of the document. It  
would seem that document features have styles associated. Do styles  
modify the document construction on application (or modification) of the  
style or do the styles work in layers like a filter.


No, it's not that complicated. Paragraph styles are just a collection of
formatting attributes (text flow attributes like "keep with next" are also
formatting attributes) that get defined with a name, and then, applied to
any paragraph.

Some functions may use styles, like, the Table of Contents field will use
Contents 1 to N, and hyperlinks will use the Hyperlink style.

I.e. a line of text entered initially in a default document has a  
certain indent.
If I adjust the slider on the ruler it changes the indent. If I apply a  
paragraph style it changes the indent. Does applying the style change  
the basic indent value or override the basic value. If the style is  
removed, does the indent revert to the basic value.


Two mistakes here.

First, there is no "basic indent". If you do those steps in order, when
you change the paragraph style indent you will not see any different
because it is already overridden by whatever value you set by sliding the
ruler.

Second, styles don't get "removed". You are ALWAYS using a style. People
who never apply styles will just be overriding the attributes from the
"Default" style all over the document.

If I apply a paragraph style and then a list style, do these  
subsequently override the indent. Are they hierarchical so no matter  
what later change I make to the paragraph style my override by the last  
applied list style maintains the indent.


I would say that those are not mixed, but I'm not sure about this. Try
it for yourself.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

[Thorsten Behrens]

Florian Effenberger wrote:
> >Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be
> >there in person or can you participate remotely?
> 
> the event is planned on-site. Maybe we can get some remote
> connection involved, but primarily, it is for hacking at the place
> :)
> 
Quite - you can get hacking help on irc every day - but one key part
of a hackfest is the social component.

It would therefore be just cool to have those kind of events spread
across the globe. I believe we've hackers on every continent. :)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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[tdf-discuss] Question

[Marius Popa]

Good evening! It is Marius Popa again, with a new question for you. How can
I set a certain page size for a document that is already written? I mean
that I wrote a long document (over 90 pages, but less than 100 pages), and
when I completed it, I noticed that the pages had not the same size. I
mention that I created the PDF/A from OpenOffice.org with NovaPDF. Thanks in
advance.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

[Robert Derman]

Thorsten Behrens wrote:

Florian Effenberger wrote:
  

Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be
there in person or can you participate remotely?
  

the event is planned on-site. Maybe we can get some remote
connection involved, but primarily, it is for hacking at the place
:)



Quite - you can get hacking help on irc every day - but one key part
of a hackfest is the social component.

It would therefore be just cool to have those kind of events spread
across the globe. I believe we've hackers on every continent. :)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten
  
We certainly need something like this for North America, U.S.A. and 
Canada. 


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

[drew]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 14:23 -0500, Robert Derman wrote:
> Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> > Florian Effenberger wrote:
> >   
> >>> Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be
> >>> there in person or can you participate remotely?
> >>>   
> >> the event is planned on-site. Maybe we can get some remote
> >> connection involved, but primarily, it is for hacking at the place
> >> :)
> >>
> >> 
> > Quite - you can get hacking help on irc every day - but one key part
> > of a hackfest is the social component.
> >
> > It would therefore be just cool to have those kind of events spread
> > across the globe. I believe we've hackers on every continent. :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > -- Thorsten
> >   
> We certainly need something like this for North America, U.S.A. and 
> Canada. 

Could not agree more with that thought - want to help make that a
reality?

Let's pick it up on the US (NA) list and see where it goes.

Thanks

Drew





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Re: [tdf-discuss] need new string in chart type dialog of line and XY chart for smoothing line with B-spline

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 25/05/2011 Regina Henschel wrote:
> Steve Edmonds schrieb:
> Currently it is in English "Data points order", that are 17 characters, 
> in German we have "Ordnung für Stützpunkte", that are 23 characters, 
> Spanish has 28 characters and fills the dialog area completely.
> 
> > "Interpolation Polynomial Degree"
> > "Degree of Spline Polynomial"
> > "Degree of Polynomial"
> 
> Degree of Polynomial
> Is that clear in content? Then it would be good. I have tried other 
> languages with Google. They have similar length.

In Italian, where we traditionally have very long strings as in French,
"Degree of Polynomial" would be "Grado del polinomio" (19); it would be
more informative to use "Grado del polinomio interpolante" (32) which
probably exceeds the maximum length; but I think "Degree of
Polynomial" (="Grado del polinomio") is clear enough in context.

Regards,
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Question

[Jean Hollis Weber]

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 22:21 +0300, Marius Popa wrote:
> Good evening! It is Marius Popa again, with a new question for you. How can
> I set a certain page size for a document that is already written? I mean
> that I wrote a long document (over 90 pages, but less than 100 pages), and
> when I completed it, I noticed that the pages had not the same size. I
> mention that I created the PDF/A from OpenOffice.org with NovaPDF. Thanks in
> advance.
> 

You need to change the page size for each of the *page styles* used in
the document, and then recreate the PDF. Unfortunately, you cannot
change all the page styles at once; you have to change each page style
individually. 

--Jean


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

[Friedrich Strohmaier]

Hi e-letter, *,

well, I give up. I only see tons of quoted text which doesn't help in
any way and neither get answers on my qestions nor the desired
links or information. No chance to go further.

Maybe it's an option for you to subscribe in normal mode to make some
conversation possible.

Sorry, no help possible as long I don't get the information and links I
asked for here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg06370.html
and having You subscribed at t...@documentfoundation.org in both digest
and normal mode in order to stop spamming the discuss list with garbage.
Get information on subscription process by sending a mail to: 
test+h...@documentfoundation.org which sends you a mail containing the
info.

e-letter schrieb:

>This hyperlink shows email message
> digest...http://pastebin.com/HYdu0rCz

which unfortunatly doesn't help.

Gruß/regards
-- 
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[tdf-discuss] RC2 - no 3.4.0.x tag in help -> about libreoffice

[Friedrich Strohmaier]

Hi all,

installing LibO 3.4.0RC2 I noticed there is no tag describing the
release version.

So LibO 3.3.2 shows up:
LibreOffice 3.3.2 
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2

LibO 3.4.0RC2 shows:
LibreOffice 3.4.0 
OOO340m1 (Build:12)

which makes it more hard for the support people to define the
environment while giving advice or hunting bugs.


deb packages on Kubuntu 7.10 32bit.


Gruß/regards
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Start as uno listener by default

[Hans-Peter Jansen]

On Thursday 26 May 2011, 12:28:07 Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know, how it is archived to setup the LO equivalent
> to the method described here:
>
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/ProUN
>O/Starting_OpenOffice.org_in_Listening_Mode
>
Something wrong with the question? Wrong forum? 
Is LO supposed to NOT support such a setting?

Hmm,
Pete

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[tdf-discuss] Feature Request:

[lj]

Google Docs Uploader or
Character Recognition integration in libreoffice.
can It happen and work on linux, windows, mac osx?

-- 
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Question

[Marius Popa]

Probably, I should first convert the PDF to ODT and then remake the file and
convert it to PDF again. How to convert a PDF to an ODT file?

On 28 May 2011 00:12, Jean Hollis Weber  wrote:

> On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 22:21 +0300, Marius Popa wrote:
> > Good evening! It is Marius Popa again, with a new question for you. How
> can
> > I set a certain page size for a document that is already written? I mean
> > that I wrote a long document (over 90 pages, but less than 100 pages),
> and
> > when I completed it, I noticed that the pages had not the same size. I
> > mention that I created the PDF/A from OpenOffice.org with NovaPDF. Thanks
> in
> > advance.
> >
>
> You need to change the page size for each of the *page styles* used in
> the document, and then recreate the PDF. Unfortunately, you cannot
> change all the page styles at once; you have to change each page style
> individually.
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Re: [tdf-discuss] RC2 - no 3.4.0.x tag in help -> about libreoffice

[ol klaus-jürgen weghorn]

Hi all,

Am 28.05.2011 01:58, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier:

Hi all,

installing LibO 3.4.0RC2 I noticed there is no tag describing the
release version.

So LibO 3.3.2 shows up:
LibreOffice 3.3.2
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2

LibO 3.4.0RC2 shows:
LibreOffice 3.4.0
OOO340m1 (Build:12)

which makes it more hard for the support people to define the
environment while giving advice or hunting bugs.


deb packages on Kubuntu 7.10 32bit.


Same in WIN Vista HP 32bit

k-j

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Re: [tdf-discuss] RC2 - no 3.4.0.x tag in help -> about libreoffice

[Andras Timar]

2011/5/28 Friedrich Strohmaier :
> Hi all,
>
> installing LibO 3.4.0RC2 I noticed there is no tag describing the
> release version.
>
> So LibO 3.3.2 shows up:
> LibreOffice 3.3.2
> OOO330m19 (Build:202)
> tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2
>
> LibO 3.4.0RC2 shows:
> LibreOffice 3.4.0
> OOO340m1 (Build:12)
>
> which makes it more hard for the support people to define the
> environment while giving advice or hunting bugs.
>

Build:12 identifies rc2

Best regards,
Andras

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