Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))
On 18/06/2011 09:39, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > The spirit does go well beyond the letter. > Ideally, the 'git repositories' should be what everyone gets, rather > than a source code snapshot that has no source change history. A couple of years ago I sent a question to FSF about meeting source code requirements for GPLG programs. Specifically, I asked if substituting the entire current code repository was acceptable, rather than a tarball of the specific code that was (supposedly) used. Their response was that the repository was acceptable. They also suggested that a ReadMe file that contained the instructions on pulling the code that the program used be included on the DVD. jonathon -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth requesting. If Bing did not copy Google, there wouldn't be anything relevant worth requesting. DaveJakeman 20110207 Groklaw. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control
On 19/06/2011 11:34, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > Over at Apache, we found compliance quick and easy [1][2][3] I'm not sure compliance for LibO is as simple and straightforward as you imply. For starters, code, amongst other things, that is either from, or benefits users in North Korea, Cuba, and Syria was been submitted to OOo. At one point, it was included in the nightly developer patch.(Artefacts of that code are present in OOo 3.3.) Ideally, TDF has a lawyer in the US that specializes in OFAC, EAR, ITAR, and related critters, and their intersection with software development and distribution. Other countries do have similar lists, with similar restrictions. In an ideal world, TDF can find a lawyer that specializes in the country's equivalent critters and the rules that they fabricate, and how those rules intersects with software development and distribution. Which means lawyers in all 192/193/194/195/196/203/248/255/320 countries in the world would need to be contacted. (If you have a question about the number of countries I list, start a new thread, without derailing this thread.) jonathon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Brasilian Community releases DVD .iso image
PARABENS ;-) ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos Am 19.06.2011 16:40 schrieb "Klaibson Ribeiro" : > thanks. > > 2011/6/19 drew > >> Hi, >> >> Just wanted to say 'Good Job!' to the members of the Brasilian community >> for getting the DVD .iso distribution for LibreOffice 3.3.3 out in such >> a timely way. >> >> http://dvd.brasil.libreofficebox.org/ >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Drew Jensen >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> > > > > -- > Klaibson Ribeiro > Tel: (48) 9625-8273 > www.creativesolucoes.com.br > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Brasilian Community releases DVD .iso image
thanks. 2011/6/19 drew > Hi, > > Just wanted to say 'Good Job!' to the members of the Brasilian community > for getting the DVD .iso distribution for LibreOffice 3.3.3 out in such > a timely way. > > http://dvd.brasil.libreofficebox.org/ > > Best wishes, > > Drew Jensen > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Klaibson Ribeiro Tel: (48) 9625-8273 www.creativesolucoes.com.br -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Brasilian Community releases DVD .iso image
Hi, Just wanted to say 'Good Job!' to the members of the Brasilian community for getting the DVD .iso distribution for LibreOffice 3.3.3 out in such a timely way. http://dvd.brasil.libreofficebox.org/ Best wishes, Drew Jensen -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Uwe Altmann wrote: > Hi Ben, * > > Am 18.06.11 21:37, schrieb BRM: >>> AIUI it would be a good idea for the TDF to consult it's US legal team >>> about whether this is really the case... >>> >> >> Very much so, especially since from what Export Control training I have had, >> even a patch from a developer in the US would be considered an export to >> TDF/LO >> and thereby require an export license. IANAL, and that may fly under the >> radar >> easily; but it is something to have the legal team consider. > > Citing [1]: > "Firms exporting products that are subject to EAR must apply for an > export license, unless the transaction qualifies for a license exception > or “No License Required” (NLR) treatment. When a Shippers Export > Declaration (SED) is required for the export transaction (for shipments > over $2,500 value, those requiring an export license, or those going to > countries that have been designated as terrorist supporting countries), > the ECCN must be provided." > > Obviously, LO is not a Firm nor does the value of the "exported product" > exceed 2.500$. So we need no SED and maybe that qualifies for an NLR > teatment ;-) Over at Apache, we found compliance quick and easy [1][2][3] Robert [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html [2] http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ [3] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control
Hi Ben, * Am 18.06.11 21:37, schrieb BRM: >> AIUI it would be a good idea for the TDF to consult it's US legal team >> about whether this is really the case... >> > > Very much so, especially since from what Export Control training I have had, > even a patch from a developer in the US would be considered an export to > TDF/LO > and thereby require an export license. IANAL, and that may fly under the > radar > easily; but it is something to have the legal team consider. Citing [1]: "Firms exporting products that are subject to EAR must apply for an export license, unless the transaction qualifies for a license exception or “No License Required” (NLR) treatment. When a Shippers Export Declaration (SED) is required for the export transaction (for shipments over $2,500 value, those requiring an export license, or those going to countries that have been designated as terrorist supporting countries), the ECCN must be provided." Obviously, LO is not a Firm nor does the value of the "exported product" exceed 2.500$. So we need no SED and maybe that qualifies for an NLR teatment ;-) [1] http://www.export.gov/logistics/eg_main_018803.asp -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Altmann -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
