[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread NoOp
On 07/18/2011 06:07 PM, plino wrote:
> 
> NoOp wrote:
>> 
>> I'd recommend a followup to the dev list. plino, when you do that you
>> might also add links to the security notices for the earlier version of
>> VC++ 2008.
>> 
> 
> The Dev list is for devs only. I have unsubscribed from it.

I got crap for posting there a few times (Jesús Corrius will certainly
remember "Change executable/sh names" - which went nowhere and are still
not changed btw), so I can't blame you.
...


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[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread plino

NoOp wrote:
> 
> I'd recommend a followup to the dev list. plino, when you do that you
> might also add links to the security notices for the earlier version of
> VC++ 2008.
> 

The Dev list is for devs only. I have unsubscribed from it.

Here is the link
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2538243

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[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread NoOp
On 07/18/2011 05:12 PM, Robert Boehm wrote:
> On 07/18/2011 07:04 PM, plino wrote:
>> Robert Boehm wrote:
>>> Obviously, if the version "preferred" by the installer is the only
>>> version that the installed files will work with
>>> is the only choice, then well, OK.  But if it's compatible with the
>>> latest version, maybe there is a way to make
>>> sure that the latest version available is installed (that is compatible)
>>> rather than whatever it was built with
>>> but I am ignorant as to if this is feasible or notor if testing is
>>> available to make sure that this works.
>>>
>> I have uninstalled the version bundled with LibO and kept the newer version.
>> All is working as expected because updates to VC++ 2008 are security and bug
>> fixes.
...
> Gooda work-aroundthanks.
> 

Not necessarily as LO is installing a version with security issues & IMO
that needs to be resolved. The standard 'user' won't know to uninstall
the bundled version as plino did. This is similar to when OOo installed
insecure versions of java et al. The user would then have parallel
versions of jave installed.

I'd recommend a followup to the dev list. plino, when you do that you
might also add links to the security notices for the earlier version of
VC++ 2008.







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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Boehm

On 07/18/2011 07:04 PM, plino wrote:

Robert Boehm wrote:

Obviously, if the version "preferred" by the installer is the only
version that the installed files will work with
is the only choice, then well, OK.  But if it's compatible with the
latest version, maybe there is a way to make
sure that the latest version available is installed (that is compatible)
rather than whatever it was built with
but I am ignorant as to if this is feasible or notor if testing is
available to make sure that this works.


I have uninstalled the version bundled with LibO and kept the newer version.
All is working as expected because updates to VC++ 2008 are security and bug
fixes.

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Gooda work-aroundthanks.

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[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread plino

Robert Boehm wrote:
> 
> Obviously, if the version "preferred" by the installer is the only 
> version that the installed files will work with
> is the only choice, then well, OK.  But if it's compatible with the 
> latest version, maybe there is a way to make
> sure that the latest version available is installed (that is compatible) 
> rather than whatever it was built with
> but I am ignorant as to if this is feasible or notor if testing is 
> available to make sure that this works.
> 

I have uninstalled the version bundled with LibO and kept the newer version.
All is working as expected because updates to VC++ 2008 are security and bug
fixes.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread Robert Boehm

On 07/18/2011 06:19 PM, Jesús Corrius wrote:

No it's not, Jesus.
It is installing a previous version with security issues when a newer fixed
version is already installed.

It should never install if a newer is already installed.

The versions are not overridden, they are installed in parallel.

If you go to your C:\windows\winsxs folder, you'll find many different
versions of the Visual C++ libraries.

I don't think that was the concern.  The concern was the use of an older 
version that might have security
problems.  Can there be a way that the installer finds the LATEST 
version that will work with the
installed files?  I get irritated with multiple versions of the same 
software is installed on my machines.


Obviously, if the version "preferred" by the installer is the only 
version that the installed files will work with
is the only choice, then well, OK.  But if it's compatible with the 
latest version, maybe there is a way to make
sure that the latest version available is installed (that is compatible) 
rather than whatever it was built with
but I am ignorant as to if this is feasible or notor if testing is 
available to make sure that this works.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread Jesús Corrius
> No it's not, Jesus.
> It is installing a previous version with security issues when a newer fixed
> version is already installed.
>
> It should never install if a newer is already installed.

The versions are not overridden, they are installed in parallel.

If you go to your C:\windows\winsxs folder, you'll find many different
versions of the Visual C++ libraries.

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[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread plino

Jesús Corrius wrote:
> 
> This is working fine.
> 
> If you don't have the matching version already installed, then the
> installer should install the version referenced in the manifests.
> 
> If the version is already installed, the VC runtime installer does
> nothing. But in this case, it's polite to detect that the version is
> already installed and don't launch it, although many application
> launch it anyway "just in case".
> 

No it's not, Jesus. 
It is installing a previous version with security issues when a newer fixed
version is already installed.

It should never install if a newer is already installed.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread Jesús Corrius
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:46 PM, plino  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> First of all I find it odd that this release is named RC1. Shouldn't there
> be a Beta first?
>
> I found the following bugs in the Windows installer:
>
> 1) Forces installation of MS VC++ 2008 x86 9.0.30729.4148 although MS VC++
> 2008 x86 9.0.30729.6161 was already installed

This is working fine.

Visual C++ 2008 uses shared side-by-side assemblies that are installed
into the native assembly cache (WinSxS folder on the Windows root).
The manifests of the applications describe their dependencies on
Visual C++ libraries, including version info.

If you don't have the matching version already installed, then the
installer should install the version referenced in the manifests.

If the version is already installed, the VC runtime installer does
nothing. But in this case, it's polite to detect that the version is
already installed and don't launch it, although many application
launch it anyway "just in case".

> 2) New dictionaries are selected to install (this time Kurdish, Nepali,
> Occitan and Romanian). Isn't there a way for it to remember just the ones
> previously selected and ignore all new?

We could put the values in the registry and then read them every new
installation.

> 3) Portuguese dictionary isn't included (but the Language Pack is). The
> dictionary for Brazilian Portuguese should be renamed to Portuguese (Brasil)
> just like e.g. German (Germany)
>
> 4) The "Create a start link on desktop" option is always selected although I
> unselect it every time. This is the only installer option that isn't saved
> from one install to the next.

Same as option 2.

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[tdf-discuss] LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread plino
Hi all

First of all I find it odd that this release is named RC1. Shouldn't there
be a Beta first?

I found the following bugs in the Windows installer:

1) Forces installation of MS VC++ 2008 x86 9.0.30729.4148 although MS VC++
2008 x86 9.0.30729.6161 was already installed

2) New dictionaries are selected to install (this time Kurdish, Nepali,
Occitan and Romanian). Isn't there a way for it to remember just the ones
previously selected and ignore all new?

3) Portuguese dictionary isn't included (but the Language Pack is). The
dictionary for Brazilian Portuguese should be renamed to Portuguese (Brasil)
just like e.g. German (Germany)

4) The "Create a start link on desktop" option is always selected although I
unselect it every time. This is the only installer option that isn't saved
from one install to the next.

HTH

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