[tdf-discuss] Re: Automatic Update / Update info

2011-09-10 Thread alfredo87
hello all,
yes just a notification that new stable version or patch is available.
NEOFFICE used to do it very efficiently and just apply patches. If LO is not
implementing updates I suggest we all go back to NEOFFICE on the Mac OS X 

bye 
alfredo87

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-10 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 05:31:50AM -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

   ..snip.
 
 At this point, this add-on would seem to eliminate the need of
 trimming, too.

Of course that would screw non-TB users.

 snip

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-10 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi NoOp, *,

I appreciate Your initiative..

Am 08.09.2011 02:16 schrieb NoOp:
 For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please
 consider bottom posting with interspersed replies.

Those who insist, won't consider. I think it's a good Idea to provide
those with kind of guidance or recommendation who don`t know better, and
want to express their respect to the attention the audience invests in
their request.

[..]

 posting. However at the bottom of each mail on this list is a link to:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
 That page doesn't help much either,

You ore someone else are warmly invited to change this. I hacked it
together after nobody wanted to volunteer, when I setup that footer
entries. So doing the footer thing brought me more work which could have
been done from someone else with no special permissions and skills. It
*intionally* is a wiki site. ;o))

[..]

 Eventually I hope that LO will actually include a link to general
 posting guidelines on the
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ page with complete
 posting guidelines.

+1 on that

 Even if the final consensus is to only top post...
 at least will help with consistancy on this (users), and the other LO lists.

I think this is not a matter of conensus but more kind of
recommendation, how to save the readers effort to catch the message and
use the time saved to give useful comments. ;o))

 Added Note: I'd originally sent this to the users list as IMO that is
 where the guidelines are needed most.

definitly.

 So there may be some cross posting in replies.

No genuine crossposting so at least consistent threads per mailing
list. The better lazy way :o))

Regarding the learn to quote and similar posting guidelines of that kind:
They are collected experience of efficient mail/newsgroup communication
over a long time - nothing more and nothing less.

Long stories could be told about this topic - I try to make it short:

As one reading a high number of mails a day and one having project
experience (since 2003 OOo membership included) enabling me to give
answers at many places, I mostly skip mails which show me the poster
doesn't worry about my time and effort reading his post. So I rise my
daily range about 50 mails, reading and responding the ones of those
writers which show respect to my effort.


Gruß/regards
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[tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-10 Thread Ken Springer

On 9/7/11 6:16 PM, NoOp wrote:

For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please
consider bottom posting with interspersed replies.


snip

Sadly, it won't matter what rules are in effect if there is no desire to 
enforce them.



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[tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-10 Thread Ken Springer

On 9/10/11 12:25 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 05:31:50AM -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

..snip.


At this point, this add-on would seem to eliminate the need of
trimming, too.


Of course that would screw non-TB users.


Not all of them.  And look at the number of untrimmed posts anyway.  :-)

I wasn't necessarily saying people should stop trimming altogether, it 
can still be useful.  But it would eliminate the writer's quandary of 
should I trim this or should I not?


And, there's nothing to stop users who have software that doesn't 
collapse a quote from looking around to find software that does.  I 
would think there are dedicated newsgroup reading software that has this 
feature.



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