[tdf-discuss] MS Outlook?

2012-02-15 Thread Shawn Sumin
Will LibreOffice ever have a similar program like MS Outlook?

i.e. Calendar, Tasks, Contacts and Mail

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Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Outlook?

2012-02-15 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 15/02/2012 08:58, Shawn Sumin wrote:

Will LibreOffice ever have a similar program like MS Outlook?

i.e. Calendar, Tasks, Contacts and Mail


I think you'll find this has been done to death many times before.
The answer will be no - for (in my view) the reason that the User can 
then choose what PIM suits them, unlike Office users who if they want 
true integration HAVE to use the included MS Outlook.
There are at least two open source equivalents - Thunderbird with the 
Lightning Calendar extension, and Evolution. Both have pros and cons, as 
indeed does MS Outlook.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Outlook?

2012-02-15 Thread Carlo Strata

Il 15/02/2012 09:58, Shawn Sumin ha scritto:

Will LibreOffice ever have a similar program like MS Outlook?

i.e. Calendar, Tasks, Contacts and Mail



Hi Shawn,

this is a regularly returning question...

And these are my (and many other people) happy choices:

Mozilla Thunderbird (now at version 10.0.1)
http://www.mozilla.org/

plus these useful and popular extensions:
1) https://addons.mozilla.org/it/thunderbird/
2) https://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/index-en.html

look there for
- lightning (advanced calendar, tasks) - 1)
- LookOut (opens a particular proprietary Outlook attachment format) - 1)
- Duplicate Contact Manager - 1)
- Dictionary Switcher- 1)
- various national dictionaries- 1)
- Recover Deleted Messages
- Remove Duplicated Messages (Alternate)
- Quick Password
- Mail Merge (for mailing delivery)
- ... (as you like or need)

- MoreFunctionForAddressBook - 2)
- PrintingTools - 2)
- ImportExportTools - 2)
- ExternalTemplateLoader - 2)
- SmartP7mSupport - 2)

and if you are in Italy or however you use PEC (Italian Certified Mail), 
you may like to have in addition

- ThunderPEC - http://www.pocketpec.it/

Hope that help.

Have a nice day,

Carlo




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[tdf-discuss] Re: MS Outlook?

2012-02-15 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Shawn,

Le 2012-02-15 03:58, Shawn Sumin a écrit :

Will LibreOffice ever have a similar program like MS Outlook?

i.e. Calendar, Tasks, Contacts and Mail



I use Thunderbird[1] with Lightning calendar plugin[2], which, BTW, you 
can also add another plugin that interfaces with the Google Calendar[3]. 
I use this combination to run a magazine and it is quite solid. When you 
get an email with a particular event, you can highlight the event and 
change it into a Google calendar entry. I also use it to mail out files 
from inside LibreOffice.


To set it up go to LibreOffice-Tools-Options-Internet-E-mail.

Cheers,

Marc


[1] http://www.mozilla.org

[2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lightning/

[3] 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/provider-for-google-calendar/?src=search



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[tdf-discuss] Thunderbird and Gmane

2012-02-15 Thread Marc Paré
For those of you using the combination of Thunderbird and Gmane, it 
looks like the newer version of Thunderbird v.10.0.1 has corrected the 
Gmane problem with updating read/non-read messages. All seems to be 
working OK. NB. This is for Thunderbird v.10.0.1, I am not sure when the 
fix came in, but if you are using any older version prior to this the 
fix is probably not there.


Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Outlook?

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Preston
i most sincerely hope not! It is not an email reader or a task
scheduler. For that, may I suggest you get Thunderbird from Mozilla

On 15/02/2012 08:58, Shawn Sumin wrote:
 Will LibreOffice ever have a similar program like MS Outlook?
 
 i.e. Calendar, Tasks, Contacts and Mail
 

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Error open docs created with LibO 3.3 in LibO 3.5

2012-02-15 Thread Eduardo Moreno

Thank's.

I can create a Script to correct apply Wrap in the pictures but, How can 
I know if the user apply or not Wrap?


This a great problem.

El 14/02/12 23:26, Rainer Bielefeld escribió:

Eduardo Moreno schrieb:


Maybe I did not know state the problem in the report of bugzilla, and
therefore was not consideredimportant. But when you have thousands of
files, it is important.




Hi,

I doubt that we should reintroduce a bug, but of course its terrible 
to modify thousands of documents. A solution should help you to 
autofix you documents. May be someone can help you with a script?


Best regards

Rainer





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Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Outlook?

2012-02-15 Thread Olav Dahlum
2012/2/15 Shawn Sumin shawn.su...@gmail.com

 Will LibreOffice ever have a similar program like MS Outlook?

 i.e. Calendar, Tasks, Contacts and Mail


The components was thrown out of StarOffice in its time, so putting them
back won't be feasible. But as other people points out, it's actually
possible to integrate third party applications without much difficulty. The
focus here should mainly be on office suites, but I also understand the
importance of a fully working front office solution, so improving
integration are important.

– Olav

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Re: [tdf-discuss] MS Outlook?

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Derman

Olav Dahlum wrote:

2012/2/15 Shawn Sumin shawn.su...@gmail.com

  

Will LibreOffice ever have a similar program like MS Outlook?

i.e. Calendar, Tasks, Contacts and Mail




The components was thrown out of StarOffice in its time, so putting them
back won't be feasible. But as other people points out, it's actually
possible to integrate third party applications without much difficulty. The
focus here should mainly be on office suites, but I also understand the
importance of a fully working front office solution, so improving
integration are important.

– Olav
  
You have to excuse me for saying this, I have used OpenOffice since it 
was first released to the public (I loved OO Writer, and I like LO 
Writer even more) and I am a big fan of open source software, BUT there 
is an attitude in the general open source community that users should 
work around the fact that open source software solutions are not, and 
perhaps should not be totally integrated.  As long as this attitude 
persists the corporate world will NEVER go to open source for their day 
to day software needs.  MS, Oracle, Adobe and other corporate software 
providers do and always will pander to this desire for fully integrated 
solutions. 



Many of us, myself included have no need for this degree of software 
integration.  However for anyone who does, all I can say is scrape 
together the exorbitant price for M$ Office and buy it.  You will get 
the full integration that you desire.  Forget about open source 
software, at least for the foreseeable future it will not provide what 
you seem to be looking for. 



Now the world of corporate produced software is not all perfect either.  
A glaring example of this is Apple, their QuickTime video player has a 
truly horrible user interface.   Each time they come out with a new 
version I keep thinking that they will improve the user interface, and 
they never do.  Likewise, they keep nagging me to upgrade my copy of 
iTunes but they keep releasing incremental upgrades, that offer no 
improvements that are noticeable to us ordinary users, and they won't 
even tell us users why we should upgrade.  And so I don't and won't 
until they go to the next major upgrade, from version 10x to 11x. 



I am not a big fan of M$ software, but there is one thing they do that I 
like, they send out patches that are small and only change the part of a 
large program that needs to be changed.  They don't insist that you 
download and install a whole new copy of it.  That is also why I won't 
upgrade my copy of LO until version 4.0 comes along.  Or until they 
announce that the next version incorporates some feature that I REALLY 
want. 


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility, very important!

2012-02-15 Thread Olav Dahlum
On 15/02/12 22:26, lali wrote:
 Dear All, dear Community!
 
 I am very confused. If I tried to check the accessibility option for
 my nvda, in libre office, the option staied unchecked. I tried hundred
 more, with, and without a sighted person. I am in a trial periode in
 office 2007, because I am very confused.
 Can you make a security update, dear community? I am not a programmer.
 
 In deutsch:
 Liebe Gemeinde von Libreoffice!
 
 Ich habe ein sehr grosses problem, mit euren Programm. Es hat alles
 funktioniert, zu der Zeit, bis ich zu die neueste version umstellte.
 Die bildschirmleser einstellung war bei mir eingeschaltet in den
 vorherigen versionen, und ich konnte es nicht.
 Ich habe es mit einem Sehenden auch probiert, es hat nicht geklappt.
 Bitte macht eine Erneuerungsaktualisierung, weil ich in der zeit office
 2007 in 30 tage testversion nutze.
 Danke:
 Euer Lali
 

Which screen reader?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility, very important!

2012-02-15 Thread Sveinn í Felli

Þann mið 15.feb 2012 22:14, skrifaði Olav Dahlum:

On 15/02/12 22:26, lali wrote:

Dear All, dear Community!

 I am very confused. If I tried to check the accessibility option for
my nvda, in libre office, the option staied unchecked. I tried hundred



Danke:
Euer Lali



Which screen reader?



Guess he's referring to NVDA screen reader for Windows.
www.nvda-project.org/

Sveinn í Felli


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility, very important!

2012-02-15 Thread Olav Dahlum
2012/2/15 Sveinn í Felli svei...@nett.is

 Þann mið 15.feb 2012 22:14, skrifaði Olav Dahlum:

 On 15/02/12 22:26, lali wrote:

 Dear All, dear Community!

 I am very confused. If I tried to check the accessibility option for
 my nvda, in libre office, the option staied unchecked. I tried hundred

 

  Danke:
 Euer Lali


 Which screen reader?


 Guess he's referring to NVDA screen reader for Windows.
 www.nvda-project.org/

 Sveinn í Felli


Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

– Olav

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Re: [tdf-discuss] How developers scare end-users away from filing bugs

2012-02-15 Thread adept techlists - kazar
Apologies for my poorly written email. I should have waited until my 
headache goes away :p


I wrote:
Nevertheless, based on Rainer's well-reasoned response explaining that 
bug reports that do not include certain elements such as sample docs, 
screenshots, localization info and other things that are not asked for 
in the public-facing bug report form, are developers being done a 
disservice?


That sentence might make more sense like this:

Nevertheless, based on Rainer's well-reasoned response explaining that 
bug reports that do not include certain elements (such as sample docs, 
screenshots, localization info and other things that are not asked for 
in the public-facing bug report form) can actually stress QA/devs more 
than help them, are developers being done a disservice by the existence 
of a public-facing bug report form that does not ask for important details?




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