Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Re: LibO Drupal site

2010-11-09 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Flo, *,

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Florian Effenberger
 wrote:
> Forwarding in agreement with James to this public list
> What are your thoughts on this?

Well - nothing against giving appropriate credit - but the question is
what does he think is appropriate?

The problem I personally have with this is that the result then is not
community knowledge, think in therms of bus-factor and the like.
They might provide a nice looking site and whatnot, but I don't know
whether it fits with requirements that change along the way, thinks
that you just cannot plan ahead completely.

Who will then maintain the site, etc.

My honest opinion is that the targeted timeframe of April for the
drupal-review should be enough to get a site going by the community
alone. If 4/5 month are not enough to get it setup by the community,
then I don't see the point in having someone else setup an initial
site and then we sit in front of a non-maintainable site

Also the visual part is important factor in forming the community
IMHO. Shaping the looks, hearing peoples opinions, work together on
the branding. If someone else presents a nice theme, we're back at
"friß oder stirb".. While professional assistance surely could help,
I'm not 100% supportive of the idea.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Re: LibO Drupal site

2010-11-09 Thread Olivier Hallot

Hi all

I am not a CMS expert, just frequent visitor of some Drupal sites, and 
maybe SilverStripe as well but I did't noticed it.


Anyway, I have no problems to give appropriate credits and visibility to 
those experts who help us. I just want a more long range vision of this 
partnership.


What comes to my mind is CMS maintenance and upgrades. As an exampple, 
BrOffice.org is stuck in old version of Drupal and to revamp/upgrade it 
costs us a lot in terms of energy and time, and we are on hold on that 
issue.


Can our Drupal friends address continuity somehow?

Olivier


Em 09-11-2010 08:52, Florian Effenberger escreveu:

Forwarding in agreement with James to this public list
What are your thoughts on this?

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: LibO Drupal site
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:32:06 -0400
From: Marc Paré 
Reply-to: m...@marcpare.com
Organization: www.parEntreprise.com
To: James Benstead , flo...@documentfoundation.org



Le 2010-11-01 10:52, James Benstead a écrit :

Marc, et al:

I'm a friend of Ben Horst's and Development Director of codeloom, a
London-based Drupal shop (http://www.linkedin.com/company/854859).

codeloom is prepared to consult on the transition of of the LibO site
from SilverStripe to Drupal. We are, furthermore, prepared to offer
our design expertise so that the finished LibO Drupal site works from
a UI/UX point of view. Our Creative Director's portfolio can be viewed
at http://giantbydesign.com/.

In return for this we would expect a credit of some form on the
finished LibO Drupal site.

My first recommendation would be that you use Drupal 7 - currently in
Beta. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this.

-- Jim

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Marc Paré mailto:m...@marcpare.com>> wrote:

Hi everyone:

I am just writing you as you had at some point, in the
thread/discussion of a choice of CMS, expressed your desire to
help out should a Drupal site be considered for LibreOffice. Now
that the SC has come to a decision (a SilverStripe site will be
created and later a Drupal site will be created and data from the
SilverStripe will be migrated to the Drupal site), I thought it
would be a good time to re-affirm our desire to create the LibO
Drupal Website Team.

So, are you still committed to help run a Drupal site? We can just
start with a show of hands and then move on.

Ben (Benjamin Horst) is working on a permanent Drupal site and he
could maybe chime in with a reply as to what he considers as
important first steps to raising a Drupal site.

I have in the meantime, to stem the questions about the ability of
the Drupal site to perform some of the conditions of a LibO site,
I have created a LibO Drupal test site here:
http://www.parEntreprise.ca . I can give you admin and ftp
permissions if you need it for the test site. User logins are:
LibO1; LibO2; LibO3; LibO4; LibO5. Please note that the
login/pswrd are the same for each user account (example login for
LibO1 pswrd: LibO1).

Note that once we have a formal team, we could create a forum on
the official LibO Drupal site to discuss issues etc. If we are
going to create it then let's use it for real-life experience.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Many thanks for your support,

Marc

--
Marc Paré
http://www.parEntreprise.com



Hi Jim:

Sorry, I can't speak for the TDF and cannot say if they would agree to
these terms. I would have no problem with this though.

I think this proposal would have to be put to Florian to start off with.
I am sending this note off to you and to Florian.

Cheers

Marc



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