Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
Le 2010-11-04 00:16, Graham Lauder a écrit : Thanks! It does indeed do what I want (and a lot more). Now if I can just figure out how to open that when I hit Ctrl-F instead of opening the standard Find& Replace... P. Sure, Tools> customize. select keyboard tab. In Shortcut keys pane select ctrl+F in the Category pane select LibreOffice Macros>user>altsearch>altsearch In functions pane select altsearch click "Modify" Ctrl+F should appear in the Keys pane Done Cheers GL I'll try that. Thanks. -- Michel Gagnon Montréal (Québec, Canada) -- http://mgagnon.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
Quoting TomW: To use Ctrl F as the shortcut for 'Alternate dialog Find & Replace for Writer', do the following: Open 'Alternate dialog Find & Replace for Writer' Click on 'Batch >>', the Batch Manager Click on 'Key Shortcuts' In the top dropdown box, select 'Altsearch - dialog'. At the bottom of the dialog, assign the new shortcut: Ctrl F. Hope this helps. It does work for me Tom It certainly did work for me too. Thank you! P. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On Thursday 04 Nov 2010 10:11:34 Peter Rodwell wrote: > Quoting Graham Lauder: > > There is an extension which is pretty much a compulsory install on any > > OOo instance l use and it does what you ask here. > > > > http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/altsearch > > Thanks! It does indeed do what I want (and a lot more). Now if I can just > figure out how to open that when I hit Ctrl-F instead of opening the > standard Find & Replace... > > P. Sure, Tools> customize. select keyboard tab. In Shortcut keys pane select ctrl+F in the Category pane select LibreOffice Macros>user>altsearch>altsearch In functions pane select altsearch click "Modify" Ctrl+F should appear in the Keys pane Done Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On 2010-11-03 17:11, Peter Rodwell wrote: Quoting Graham Lauder: There is an extension which is pretty much a compulsory install on any OOo instance l use and it does what you ask here. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/altsearch Thanks! It does indeed do what I want (and a lot more). Now if I can just figure out how to open that when I hit Ctrl-F instead of opening the standard Find & Replace... P. Good Morning, Good Day, or Good Evening: To use Ctrl F as the shortcut for 'Alternate dialog Find & Replace for Writer', do the following: Open 'Alternate dialog Find & Replace for Writer' Click on 'Batch >>', the Batch Manager Click on 'Key Shortcuts' In the top dropdown box, select 'Altsearch - dialog'. At the bottom of the dialog, assign the new shortcut: Ctrl F. Hope this helps. It does work for me Tom -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
Quoting Graham Lauder: There is an extension which is pretty much a compulsory install on any OOo instance l use and it does what you ask here. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/altsearch Thanks! It does indeed do what I want (and a lot more). Now if I can just figure out how to open that when I hit Ctrl-F instead of opening the standard Find & Replace... P. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/02/2010 03:48 PM, Peter Rodwell wrote: > 1. Complete file compatibility. I frequently handle documents with very complex formatting. Funny thing here. I get better compatibility using OOo and LibO, than I did when I was using MSO. I still receive documents in both .doc and .docx formats that can not be opened with MSO, but can be easily opened and displayed with both OOo and LibO. > They *must* retain 100% of the original formatting. So far this has not been the case with Oo. If that is the case, then you have to be using the same computer as the document was created on, using the same settings, and the same edition and the same version of MSO. Otherwise compatibility is going to be less than 100%. Even with that configuration, you aren't guaranteed 100% compatibility. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkzQqmQACgkQaC1raifmCuF1JgCdHAcVFR7aZQyJdwOuzNBCUeUd FmEAn1PyGuSunMKsDRZZ755QuinvOtxt =2UJi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On Wednesday 03 Nov 2010 06:11:02 Peter Rodwell wrote: > Hi Cor: > >> 2. Search and replace. I work with large documents, often 400+ pages. > > [snip] > > > OK, that is easy to handle with a trick as user, but possibly also an > > relative easy fix (1)? > > As I said, when you have to do this constantly, dozens of times a day, it > does become a real issue. > > I would have thought it quite simple to save the current position, do the > search and replace then return to the previously-saved position. After > all, if MS can do it then it can't be very difficult. :) > > P. There is an extension which is pretty much a compulsory install on any OOo instance l use and it does what you ask here. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/altsearch cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
In data martedì 02 novembre 2010 16:48:46, Peter Rodwell ha scritto: > I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this > has already been discussed or not. > > There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office > 2010 instead of switching to OO/LO: > > 1. Complete file compatibility. I frequently handle documents with > very complex formatting. These come from my clients, all of whom use > MS Office. I translate and edit the documents and return them. They > *must* retain 100% of the original formatting. So far this has not > been the case with Oo. [cut] If it's just for translating the text of the documents, then you must give a try to OmegaT [1] or a similar tool. Of course you will need MSO to verify the final document, but the translation will become much more easier with a CAT tool. Paolo [1] http://www.omegat.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
Quoting Charles Marcus: There will *never* be 100% compatibility... like I said earlier, even Microsoft doesn't achieve that between different versions of its own programs. Oddly, I can't offhand remember having any backwards compatibility problems. I have had very occasional problems loading files saved with the *same* version. P. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
True. However, the good news is that the 2007 and 2010 formats are largely similar and are XML based. The old formats were binary and kept changing. Since the format isn't changing as much, and the new format is easier to reverse-engineer, now is a good opportunity for OOo/LibO to "catch up" and improve their compatibiltiy filters. In some ways, OOo/LibO is better at opening old MSO documents than MSO itself. Why not continue to improve that? The difficult argument for many people has been to switch to a new document format that most users can't open. But if you convince people that your product is easily the best solution for opening the millions of 2003-and-before documents, then that is a clear advantage for your product. It could be the killer feature that helps convince people to migrate. Are the areas of poor compatibilty enumerated somewhere? Are these unknown? Should users continue to report speciifc documents and features they have trouble importing? -- T. J. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-11-02 12:05 PM, Frank Esposito wrote: > > File compatibility should be a priority, in the very least opening and > > saving MSO files with full compatibility > > There will *never* be 100% compatibility... like I said earlier, even > Microsoft doesn't achieve that between different versions of its own > programs. > > -- > > Best regards, > > Charles > -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On 2010-11-02 12:07 PM, Robert Parker wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Peter Rodwell wrote: >> If this stupid comment is typical of this forum, then I'm out >> of here. > > I don't think we need Microsoft shills anyway. Robert - if you don't have anything constructive to say, then shut up. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On 2010-11-02 12:05 PM, Frank Esposito wrote: > File compatibility should be a priority, in the very least opening and > saving MSO files with full compatibility There will *never* be 100% compatibility... like I said earlier, even Microsoft doesn't achieve that between different versions of its own programs. -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On 2010-11-02 11:48 AM, Peter Rodwell wrote: > There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office > 2010 instead of switching to OO/LO: > > 1. Complete file compatibility. I frequently handle documents with > very complex formatting. These come from my clients, all of whom use > MS Office. I translate and edit the documents and return them. They > *must* retain 100% of the original formatting. So far this has not > been the case with Oo. Of course there are formatting problems with OOo when opening some MSO documents... but, in my experience, OOo has *less* formatting problems across all different versions of MSO than MSO itself does. In other words, Office 2010 *will* have formatting problems with documents in older versions... and OOo often does a *better* job in many of those cases. What I would like to see is a web form/system dedicated solely to improving the LibO <> MSO filters - ie, for reporting problem documents. Just a text box for describing the problem, and a 'Browse' button to locate the file for upload... > 2. Search and replace. I work with large documents, often 400+ pages. > As I'm translating, I usually come across a word or phrase that I > know will be repeated throughout the document so I search and replace > it to avoid having to type it continuously. I do this *dozens* of > times a day. MS Word leaves me where I was when I did the S/R so that > I can continue working. Oo leaves me at the point of the last replace > so I have to manually go back to where I was. I know of many people > for whom this is a dealbreaker -- they won't move to Oo/LO until this > is fixed. Sounds like a good candidate for an extension... -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
Quoting Robert Derman: On a separate subject, to Peter above, I can see where your profession certainly justifies the expenditure for MS Office, I would hope however that you at least downloaded and installed OOo/LO in addition, since it costs little or nothing and might at times prove useful, for instance opening some MS Office files where Office itself fails to be able to open them. (This does happen). I've been downloading version after version of Oo for years (current one is 3.2.1) and it has been getting progressively more MS file compatible. Yes, Office does sometimes fail at opening Office files, although in my experience this seems to happen when one of my clients does something strange at saving time or includes graphics prepared with some weirdo technical drawing program that nobody's ever heard of. Certainly there have been occasions when I've used Oo to open such a file and save it, after which Office has had no problem with it. P. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
Peter Rodwell wrote: I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has already been discussed or not. There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office 2010 instead of switching to OO/LO: 1. Complete file compatibility. I frequently handle documents with very complex formatting. These come from my clients, all of whom use MS Office. I translate and edit the documents and return them. They *must* retain 100% of the original formatting. So far this has not been the case with Oo. 2. Search and replace. I work with large documents, often 400+ pages. As I'm translating, I usually come across a word or phrase that I know will be repeated throughout the document so I search and replace it to avoid having to type it continuously. I do this *dozens* of times a day. MS Word leaves me where I was when I did the S/R so that I can continue working. Oo leaves me at the point of the last replace so I have to manually go back to where I was. I know of many people for whom this is a dealbreaker -- they won't move to Oo/LO until this is fixed. Just my €0.02 worth. Peter. This needs to be fixed/changed also with the spell checker. it always leaves the cursor at the beginning of the last sentence where any word was corrected, instead the cursor should be left where it was before the spell check was run. On a separate subject, to Peter above, I can see where your profession certainly justifies the expenditure for MS Office, I would hope however that you at least downloaded and installed OOo/LO in addition, since it costs little or nothing and might at times prove useful, for instance opening some MS Office files where Office itself fails to be able to open them. (This does happen). -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
T. J. Brumfield wrote: There were several old, often commented on, and often requested bug fixes and features that didn't receive much attention or weren't resolved with OOo over the years. For those who may not be aware of the reasons for the shift/fork, or for those who don't care about politics with software, resolving some of these old bugs might be a reason for users to switch over to LibreOffice. For instance, the bug/feature request with the most votes for OOo is a SVG import filter. go-oo implemented that feature. I assume LibreOffice will include that patch. Here is an eight year old bug/feature request with over 300 votes. http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 And while it seems like that bug involves quite a bit of work, it also reads like necessary refactoring that has been started, but not finished. In the end, I suppose my question is this. Is it a worthwhile goal for LibreOffice to pursue some of these lingering issues with tons of votes? Should they try to create the features that the community obviously wants that OOo is not providing? I would have to say so, it would of course be wise to take a close look at each. I suppose some might concern things like compatability with some other software program that has itself become obsolete in the meantime. But any that concern internal faults within OOo/LO should certainly be addressed. There is also the matter of feature enhancements, performance upgrades, stability improvements, which might not have been given a high priority by Sun/Oracle which would now merit another look. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
Hi Cor: 2. Search and replace. I work with large documents, often 400+ pages. [snip] OK, that is easy to handle with a trick as user, but possibly also an relative easy fix (1)? As I said, when you have to do this constantly, dozens of times a day, it does become a real issue. I would have thought it quite simple to save the current position, do the search and replace then return to the previously-saved position. After all, if MS can do it then it can't be very difficult. :) P. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
Hi Peter, Peter Rodwell wrote (02-11-10 16:48) I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has already been discussed or not. There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office 2010 instead of switching to OO/LO: 1. Complete file compatibility. I frequently handle documents with very complex formatting. These come from my clients, all of whom use MS Office. I translate and edit the documents and return them. They *must* retain 100% of the original formatting. So far this has not been the case with Oo. That is true. But let me start to say that 100% correct formatting is also not provided when using MsO with MsO. We all know those examples. But still, in more complex documents, features when exchanging with OOo/LibO will count more. So I can understand your situation. Obviously there are ways to ease the pain, but still it will ask extra attention. 2. Search and replace. I work with large documents, often 400+ pages. As I'm translating, I usually come across a word or phrase that I know will be repeated throughout the document so I search and replace it to avoid having to type it continuously. I do this *dozens* of times a day. MS Word leaves me where I was when I did the S/R so that I can continue working. Oo leaves me at the point of the last replace so I have to manually go back to where I was. I know of many people for whom this is a dealbreaker -- they won't move to Oo/LO until this is fixed. OK, that is easy to handle with a trick as user, but possibly also an relative easy fix (1)? Kind regards, Cor 1) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Easy_Hacks -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
Hi TJ, T. J. Brumfield wrote (02-11-10 16:28) There were several old, often commented on, and often requested bug fixes and features that didn't receive much attention or weren't resolved with OOo over the years. That is true. Others were fixed though, and also features were added. For those who may not be aware of the reasons for the shift/fork, or for those who don't care about politics with software, resolving some of these old bugs might be a reason for users to switch over to LibreOffice. Indeed. But at least for a part of the long standing issues, a/the reason is that fixing takes considerable amount of time. So IMO we must be modest with expectations, at least on short term. For instance, the bug/feature request with the most votes for OOo is a SVG import filter. go-oo implemented that feature. I assume LibreOffice will include that patch. Interesting topic. In the mean time there also has been implemented an SVG feature for OOo. I have no real idea about merites of both, so that has to been investigated by developers. Here is an eight year old bug/feature request with over 300 votes. http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 And while it seems like that bug involves quite a bit of work, it also reads like necessary refactoring that has been started, but not finished. [ I always have difficulty to understand the need for this feature. Especially since in LibreOffice it is possible to (un)fold headings individually in the Navigator, and all kind of manipulations are possible - but oh, let me not discuss the individual features here. ] In the end, I suppose my question is this. Is it a worthwhile goal for LibreOffice to pursue some of these lingering issues with tons of votes? Should they try to create the features that the community obviously wants that OOo is not providing? IMO that is very true. Since a goal for LibreOffice is attracting more developers, more people that can step in easily to work on it (which already works (1, 2) ) there will be more people that can pick up those issues, or at least a part of it. Thanks for your thoughts, Cor 1) http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr/wordpress/?p=734 2) http://libreoffice.org/credits.html -- T. J. Brumfield "I'm questioning my education Rewind and what does it show? Could be, the truth it becomes you I'm a seed, wondering why it grows" -- Pearl Jam, Education -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Peter Rodwell wrote: > If this stupid comment is typical of this forum, then I'm out > of here. I don't think we need Microsoft shills anyway. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
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No it is not typical, but every now and then you do get this kind of message. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Peter Rodwell wrote: > If this stupid comment is typical of this forum, then I'm out > of here. > > P. > > > > On 02/11/2010 16:53, Robert Parker wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Peter Rodwell wrote: >> >>> I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has >>> already been discussed or not. >>> >>> There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office >>> 2010 >>> instead of switching to OO/LO: >>> >> >> Did Microsoft pay you to promote their agenda here? >> >> > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: Email to > discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org > Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html > Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ > *** All posts to this list are publicly archived *** > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Peter Rodwell wrote: > I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has > already been discussed or not. > > There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office 2010 > instead of switching to OO/LO: > > 1. Complete file compatibility. I frequently handle documents with very > complex > formatting. These come from my clients, all of whom use MS Office. I > translate and edit the documents and return them. They *must* retain 100% > of > the original formatting. So far this has not been the case with Oo. > > > The point of the MSO-to-ODF and ODF-to-MSO converters not working 100% and being a deal-breaker has been raised several times already. But I am not sure as to what is being done as far as development. I think the devs are just trying to clean up the existing code, work in long awaited patches and stabilize for the 3.3 release right now. But for the future, if LO is going to battle for market share with MSO, (which the world currently uses now), the converters will have to be fixed. There are two sides, Side one is that Microsoft does not follow standards and ODF does so we should just make LO work to standards. Side two is we should play Microsoft's game until we take their game away from them. I see two priorities for long-term growth: File compatibility should be a priority, in the very least opening and saving MSO files with full compatibility ODF adoption should also be a priority, the more LO can get the world to use ODF instead of Microsft, the more people will use Libre/Open Office and the more likely the chance Microsoft will have to fix their non-standards compliant, broken file format. just my thoughts -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
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If this stupid comment is typical of this forum, then I'm out of here. P. On 02/11/2010 16:53, Robert Parker wrote: On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Peter Rodwell wrote: I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has already been discussed or not. There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office 2010 instead of switching to OO/LO: Did Microsoft pay you to promote their agenda here? -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Peter Rodwell wrote: > I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has > already been discussed or not. > > There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office 2010 > instead of switching to OO/LO: Did Microsoft pay you to promote their agenda here? -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
I have only today joined this discussion so I don't know whether this has already been discussed or not. There are two reasons why I have just paid money to upgrade to Office 2010 instead of switching to OO/LO: 1. Complete file compatibility. I frequently handle documents with very complex formatting. These come from my clients, all of whom use MS Office. I translate and edit the documents and return them. They *must* retain 100% of the original formatting. So far this has not been the case with Oo. 2. Search and replace. I work with large documents, often 400+ pages. As I'm translating, I usually come across a word or phrase that I know will be repeated throughout the document so I search and replace it to avoid having to type it continuously. I do this *dozens* of times a day. MS Word leaves me where I was when I did the S/R so that I can continue working. Oo leaves me at the point of the last replace so I have to manually go back to where I was. I know of many people for whom this is a dealbreaker -- they won't move to Oo/LO until this is fixed. Just my €0.02 worth. Peter. -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
> For instance, the bug/feature request with the most votes for OOo is a SVG > import filter. go-oo implemented that feature. I assume LibreOffice will > include that patch. > > LO included Go-oo patches, was this included? If not, where can i vote for this, I have been waiting for this for a long time! -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
[tdf-discuss] Old Bugs
There were several old, often commented on, and often requested bug fixes and features that didn't receive much attention or weren't resolved with OOo over the years. For those who may not be aware of the reasons for the shift/fork, or for those who don't care about politics with software, resolving some of these old bugs might be a reason for users to switch over to LibreOffice. For instance, the bug/feature request with the most votes for OOo is a SVG import filter. go-oo implemented that feature. I assume LibreOffice will include that patch. Here is an eight year old bug/feature request with over 300 votes. http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3959 And while it seems like that bug involves quite a bit of work, it also reads like necessary refactoring that has been started, but not finished. In the end, I suppose my question is this. Is it a worthwhile goal for LibreOffice to pursue some of these lingering issues with tons of votes? Should they try to create the features that the community obviously wants that OOo is not providing? -- T. J. Brumfield "I'm questioning my education Rewind and what does it show? Could be, the truth it becomes you I'm a seed, wondering why it grows" -- Pearl Jam, Education -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
