Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-27 Thread Uwe Altmann
Hi

Am 26.12.10 15:07, schrieb sophie:
> ...
> Please go on, we will move the page when needed, but for the moment,
> this wiki is used by all the community to put the needed stuff, being
> end user or not.
> This is our tool, it's in place and open, so use it as you want to
> contribute.
> 
> So thanks for your page, I think may be it should go under a
> documentation category, because it will be easier to find there. But
> again don't refrain to participate because we will have a new wiki in
> several times.

By incident I know that David Nelson was writing installing instructions
for the upcomming(?) libreoffice.org website. These will also refer to
parallel install (I provided him with some info for Mac). So perhaps he
joins this discussion as well and we do the work at one place only?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-26 Thread sophie

Hi,
On 26/12/2010 16:59, RGB ES wrote:

Agree: an horizontally distributed wiki with good category tags is the
way to go... But the problem seems to be quite different now: I asked
to the website mailing lists and it seems that this kind of pages (end
user pages) are not good for TDF wiki. They are planning a new LibO
wiki so all these pages will need to be moved there... :S
This is absolutely not an issue to move the page, and the new LibO site 
is not yet there.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOfficeWiki
the answer on Nabble:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Wiki-Two-new-pages-td2145610.html
so let's take these holidays as what they are and wait the new wiki
before going on...


Please go on, we will move the page when needed, but for the moment, 
this wiki is used by all the community to put the needed stuff, being 
end user or not.
This is our tool, it's in place and open, so use it as you want to 
contribute.


So thanks for your page, I think may be it should go under a 
documentation category, because it will be easier to find there. But 
again don't refrain to participate because we will have a new wiki in 
several times.


Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-26 Thread RGB ES
Agree: an horizontally distributed wiki with good category tags is the
way to go... But the problem seems to be quite different now: I asked
to the website mailing lists and it seems that this kind of pages (end
user pages) are not good for TDF wiki. They are planning a new LibO
wiki so all these pages will need to be moved there... :S
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/LibreOfficeWiki
the answer on Nabble:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Wiki-Two-new-pages-td2145610.html
so let's take these holidays as what they are and wait the new wiki
before going on...

Ricardo

2010/12/26 Stefan Weigel :
> Hi Cor,
>
> Am 26.12.2010 00:13, schrieb Cor Nouws:
>
>> Yes, a category tag is one thing,
>> Another thing is the path, for example
>>    wiki.documentfoundation.org/documentation/
>>    or wiki.documentfoundation.org/installation/
>>    or ...
>
> AFAIR our wiki guru Manuel Schneider from Wikimedia says, that this
> is no good way to structure a wiki. The right (and only good?) way
> to structure a wiki is categories.
>
> For example, the big Wikipedia does not use paths with subpages at all.
>
> Also the multilingual wiki concept
> (http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Multilingual_Wiki) was
> developped for wikis without subpages.
>
> Stefan
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi Cor,

Am 26.12.2010 00:13, schrieb Cor Nouws:

> Yes, a category tag is one thing,
> Another thing is the path, for example
>wiki.documentfoundation.org/documentation/
>or wiki.documentfoundation.org/installation/
>or ...

AFAIR our wiki guru Manuel Schneider from Wikimedia says, that this
is no good way to structure a wiki. The right (and only good?) way
to structure a wiki is categories.

For example, the big Wikipedia does not use paths with subpages at all.

Also the multilingual wiki concept
(http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Multilingual_Wiki) was
developped for wikis without subpages.

Stefan

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread Cor Nouws

RGB ES wrote (26-12-10 00:02)

2010/12/25 Cor Nouws:

One thing I wonder: did you think about the name structure for the pages, or
ask on documentation@ or website@ ?


To be honest, no... I just had some idle time today and hurried before
something else grabbed it ;)


 :-)


I am not sure, but can imagine that there are categories or subpages, useful
to group (and later easily find ...) this kind of info.

What do you think?


AFAIK, this is done with category tags (adding
[[Category:]] at the page end. See for example this page
which is tagged as "QA":
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport).
I did not add a category for these pages yet (other than the automatic
language category) because I did not find any of the predefined tags
appropriate. I do not know if it is possible to define new tags,
though.


Yes, a category tag is one thing,
Another thing is the path, for example
   wiki.documentfoundation.org/documentation/
   or wiki.documentfoundation.org/installation/
   or ...


An "install" and a "configuration" tags should be fine I think, but
adding those tags needs to be discussed first I suppose.


But as written: I do not know if this has been discussed.
Do you mind to ask on d...@documentation  (I guess that is more 
appropriate then d...@website...)


Regards,
Cor

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread RGB ES
2010/12/25 Cor Nouws :
> One thing I wonder: did you think about the name structure for the pages, or
> ask on documentation@ or website@ ?

To be honest, no... I just had some idle time today and hurried before
something else grabbed it ;)

> I am not sure, but can imagine that there are categories or subpages, useful
> to group (and later easily find ...) this kind of info.
>
> What do you think?

AFAIK, this is done with category tags (adding
[[Category:]] at the page end. See for example this page
which is tagged as "QA":
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport).
I did not add a category for these pages yet (other than the automatic
language category) because I did not find any of the predefined tags
appropriate. I do not know if it is possible to define new tags,
though.
An "install" and a "configuration" tags should be fine I think, but
adding those tags needs to be discussed first I suppose.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Ricardo,

Thanks for both.
I will mark them for translation in Dutch etc.

One thing I wonder: did you think about the name structure for the 
pages, or ask on documentation@ or website@ ?
I am not sure, but can imagine that there are categories or subpages, 
useful to group (and later easily find ...) this kind of info.


What do you think?

Best,
Cor


RGB ES wrote (25-12-10 21:49)

Another new wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
Entries for windows and mac need to be written (I only use Linux),
help will be appreciated ;)
Cheers

2010/12/25 RGB ES:

I started a new page on the wiki about LibreOffice's user profile:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile
English is not my native language, so please edit any grammar error
you find there. Also, there are some "holes" on the info provided: the
use of several folder inside the profile, for example. Finally,
someone with experience on Windows / Mac is needed to enhance the last
entry about how to change the default location for the user profile
folder: I only tried that on Linux ;)
Happy holidays!
Ricardo






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[tdf-discuss] Re: [Wiki]New wiki page: the user profile

2010-12-25 Thread RGB ES
Another new wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
Entries for windows and mac need to be written (I only use Linux),
help will be appreciated ;)
Cheers

2010/12/25 RGB ES :
> I started a new page on the wiki about LibreOffice's user profile:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile
> English is not my native language, so please edit any grammar error
> you find there. Also, there are some "holes" on the info provided: the
> use of several folder inside the profile, for example. Finally,
> someone with experience on Windows / Mac is needed to enhance the last
> entry about how to change the default location for the user profile
> folder: I only tried that on Linux ;)
> Happy holidays!
> Ricardo
>

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