Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-17 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Tibor

thank you both for answers, I understand now the situation...
My friend is historcian and he is not interested in learning any DTP technics – 
that is quite understandable.
His first pdf exported from OO was flatly rejected as it was in RBG. It is 
fault or shortcoming of this publishing shop but he will not change it.
Today, I found and tested pstill tool, it converts pdf to CMYK pdf, only colors 
(in included photos) are somehow shifted, or undersaturated. I had not 
investigated this issue yet, it might be something trivial …
No not trivial, thats wath i mend with using correct colorspace, when 
the pictures in a LO doc are all the same colorspace, then tranforming 
to CMYK has a better change to produce better colors.

This was some background, but I have following question:

You wrote:

„Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or adobeRGB) 
is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !“ - are you trying to 
say, that OO/LibreOffice exports PDFs to wrong RGB type that can not be 
converted properly into CMYK pdf? If this would be the case it would be quite 
serious problem...
I supose LO is not touching the colorspace precent in the original 
pictures, we slould have a tool (at least in draw) yo check the 
colorspace in a picture and to alter this all to the same space.

Regards

Tibor



On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:08:38 +0100, Fernand Vanries...@pmgroup.be  wrote:


Tibor,

A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that CMYK but deaser days
RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb)
documents. CMYK is printer business so they mostly prefer to do the
transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or
adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !

Fernand

Hi,
Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver pdf in 
CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there any plans or 
any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is not critical issue for 
me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe product at the end...

Regards










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Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-16 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Tibor,

A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that CMYK but deaser days 
RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb) 
documents. CMYK is printer business so they mostly prefer to do the 
transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or 
adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !


Fernand

Hi,
Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver pdf in 
CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there any plans or 
any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is not critical issue for 
me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe product at the end...

Regards




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Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-16 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Hi,

Most printshops do the RGB-CMYK conversion themselves,
normal home/office printing devices take in RGB.

If your friend wants to enter the field of real DTP (and
does not have/want the cash to shell out to Adobe) he could
go for Scribus, a cross-platform FOSS DTP application.
Scribus imports styles and some formatting from OOo/LibO.

The learning curve (in DTP) is quite steep, and you're
entering a minefield of professional techniques and jargon
which is best handled by the printshops - unless one wants
to take the plunge themselves.

The easiest would be to place the LibO-RGB.pdf in an image
frame in Scribus (each page separately) and let Scribus
render the file to Scribus-CMYK.pdf.

There are also a bunch of command-line tools which can
assist in such a conversion, but for them to be useful one
has to know exactly which parameters to use.

Regards,

Sveinn í Felli

On 12/16/2010 08:08 AM, skrifaði Fernand Vanrie:
 Tibor,
 
 A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that CMYK but deaser days
 RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb)
 documents. CMYK is printer business so they mostly prefer to do the
 transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
 Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or
 adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !
 
 Fernand
 Hi,
 Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver
 pdf in CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there
 any plans or any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is
 not critical issue for me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe
 product at the end...

 Regards

 
 


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Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-16 Thread Tibor Bamhor
Hi
thank you both for answers, I understand now the situation...
My friend is historcian and he is not interested in learning any DTP technics – 
that is quite understandable.
His first pdf exported from OO was flatly rejected as it was in RBG. It is 
fault or shortcoming of this publishing shop but he will not change it.
Today, I found and tested pstill tool, it converts pdf to CMYK pdf, only colors 
(in included photos) are somehow shifted, or undersaturated. I had not 
investigated this issue yet, it might be something trivial …

This was some background, but I have following question:

You wrote:

„Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or adobeRGB) 
is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !“ - are you trying to 
say, that OO/LibreOffice exports PDFs to wrong RGB type that can not be 
converted properly into CMYK pdf? If this would be the case it would be quite 
serious problem...

Regards

Tibor



On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:08:38 +0100, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote:

 Tibor,

 A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that CMYK but deaser days
 RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb)
 documents. CMYK is printer business so they mostly prefer to do the
 transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
 Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or
 adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !

 Fernand
 Hi,
 Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver pdf in 
 CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there any plans or 
 any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is not critical issue 
 for me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe product at the end...

 Regards







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