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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe

2010-10-22 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-21 17.21:

All true and understood... but since MM3 will address all of these
issues (and then some), I think it should be a part of the future plans
(to migrate the lists to it once it is released and stable)... but thats
only because I'm partial to it...:)


yes, but we need a solution now - that's why we go for mlmmj ;)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribe [was: Multilingualism...]

2010-10-21 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-20 6:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
 This line has been modified because there is a different way to
 unsubscribe from digest lists. We had a thread here complaining about
 digest users couldn't unsubscribe at all.

?? That makes no sense. Each list has it's *own* footer, right (if not,
why?)? So each list should have the correct unsubscribe link at the bottom.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribe [was: Multilingualism...]

2010-10-21 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-20 6:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
 Florian is already working on a solution using a webform or something
 like that, so please keep your mood and wait a bit longer.
 
 I know that it is unsatisfactory to see problems addressed earlier to
 reappear - but even if the day would have 36 hours, Florian would have
 not the time to solve everything during one week...

Oh, I know that, and Florians and everyone else's efforts are much
appreciated - I wasn't complaining, just pointing it out...

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe

2010-10-21 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-21 1:10 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 14.08:
 Well, as a blanket statement that isn't true of mailman...

 One example:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-us...@python.org/msg37624.html

 MM3 is going to be mucho better in this regard...

 at least with the current Mailman stable release (2.1), we would have to
 use a shared password per list, and this doesn't scale well. Moderation
 via e-mail is much more comfortable, but that feature is not available
 at least in current Mailman stable versions. Same is true for virtual
 domains - Mailman 2.x doesn't allow the same list name in two domains
 (e.g. disc...@de and disc...@fr). Therefore, going with Mailman at the
 moment doesn't sound like an option.

All true and understood... but since MM3 will address all of these
issues (and then some), I think it should be a part of the future plans
(to migrate the lists to it once it is released and stable)... but thats
only because I'm partial to it... :)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribe [was: Multilingualism...]

2010-10-21 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Charles, *,

Charles Marcus schrieb:

On 2010-10-20 6:41 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote:
 This line has been modified because there is a different way to
 unsubscribe from digest lists. We had a thread here complaining
 about digest users couldn't unsubscribe at all.

 ?? That makes no sense. Each list has it's *own* footer, right (if
 not, why?)? So each list should have the correct unsubscribe link at
 the bottom.

Youre right *but* AFAIK the digest mails are a container of the mails
sent during the day. And *those* single mails hold the footer of the
original one posted.

But probably I'm wrong with this because I never order digest mails.

So maybe You can correct me :o))

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Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribe [was: Multilingualism...]

2010-10-21 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-21 4:38 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Youre right *but* AFAIK the digest mails are a container of the mails
 sent during the day. And *those* single mails hold the footer of the
 original one posted.

Ahh... right. forgot about that... interesting problem...

Probably should add the unsub instructions to both the footer *and*
header then for digest emails...

 But probably I'm wrong with this because I never order digest mails.
 
 So maybe You can correct me :o))

No, you're probably right... :)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe

2010-10-20 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:04:05 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 you need to write to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org

On that matter, can't we filter out mails with subject unsubscribe and
redirect them to discuss+unsubscribe dynamically? Even I failed to
unsubscribe from this list yesterday, so this is really a tricky and
fragile thing.

Even better, let's use a mailman-like webinterface like everyone else
does :-). It's not optimal, but way less error-prone. This system feels
like it came directly from the 70s. We could always offer a telnet
server where people can issue unsubscribe commands if we want to be
retro-geeky :-)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe

2010-10-20 Thread Mike Dupont
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de wrote:
 We could always offer a telnet
 server where people can issue unsubscribe commands if we want to be
 retro-geeky :-)

Hmm...
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Trying 178.63.91.70...
Connected to documentfoundation.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 bilbo.documentfoundation.org ESMTP ready
helo mike.introspector.org
250 bilbo.documentfoundation.org
MAIL from :t...@test.org
530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first


Hmm, I dont know to do a TTLS from telnet... that is over my head!

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe

2010-10-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Sebastian Spaeth wrote on 2010-10-20 09.33:


On that matter, can't we filter out mails with subject unsubscribe and
redirect them to discuss+unsubscribe dynamically? Even I failed to
unsubscribe from this list yesterday, so this is really a tricky and
fragile thing.


hm, it's a bit risky, as there might be some legit mails getting 
erroneously redirected then.



Even better, let's use a mailman-like webinterface like everyone else
does :-). It's not optimal, but way less error-prone. This system feels
like it came directly from the 70s. We could always offer a telnet
server where people can issue unsubscribe commands if we want to be
retro-geeky :-)


LOL. Well, Mailman disqualifies itself as it doesn't support moderation 
via e-mail. The only system offering that was mlmmj, which we use.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe

2010-10-20 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-20 3:33 AM, Sebastian Spaeth wrote:
 Even better, let's use a mailman-like webinterface like everyone else
 does :-).

+100

Web interfaces are much less error-prone.

Just put up a page where someone can enter their email address, and
click 'subscribe' or 'unsubscribe'. Provide proper feedback (ie, 'A
confirmation email has been sent to y...@email.com. In order to complete
the unsubscribe process you will need to click the confirmation link in
that email.' or 'Sorry, y...@email.com was not found in our list of
subscribers'.

Then just pop a link at the bottom of every list with a link to the
appropriate page for that list.

Of course, I still prefer a more global type account management where a
user can easily manage all of their subscriptions to all available lists
on one page, but this is admittedly a little more complicated due to the
requirement of a username/password to be able to login, although such a
system could still use non-authenticated list specific pages to handle
specific sub/unsub requests with the same email confirmation process.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe

2010-10-20 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-20 6:10 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 LOL. Well, Mailman disqualifies itself as it doesn't support moderation
 via e-mail. The only system offering that was mlmmj, which we use.

Well, as a blanket statement that isn't true of mailman...

One example:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-us...@python.org/msg37624.html

MM3 is going to be mucho better in this regard...

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Re: [tdf-discuss] unsubscribe [was: Multilingualism...]

2010-10-20 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Charles, all,

Charles Marcus schrieb:

On 2010-10-20 5:05 PM, Jon Hawkins wrote:

This unsubscribe/confirm procedure is basically the same procedure
someone used when they subscribed,


If the link at the bottom of the email was an actual unsubscribe link
instead of the info link, I'd agree...

The info link should be second, and the unsubscribe link should be right
there in the email footer.


This line has been modified because there is a different way to 
unsubscribe from digest lists. We had a thread here complaining about 
digest users couldn't unsubscribe at all.


Florian is already working on a solution using a webform or something 
like that, so please keep your mood and wait a bit longer.


I know that it is unsatisfactory to see problems addressed earlier to 
reappear - but even if the day would have 36 hours, Florian would have 
not the time to solve everything during one week...


Best regards

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe

2010-10-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles Marcus wrote on 2010-10-20 14.08:

Well, as a blanket statement that isn't true of mailman...

One example:

http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-us...@python.org/msg37624.html

MM3 is going to be mucho better in this regard...


at least with the current Mailman stable release (2.1), we would have to 
use a shared password per list, and this doesn't scale well. Moderation 
via e-mail is much more comfortable, but that feature is not available 
at least in current Mailman stable versions. Same is true for virtual 
domains - Mailman 2.x doesn't allow the same list name in two domains 
(e.g. disc...@de and disc...@fr). Therefore, going with Mailman at the 
moment doesn't sound like an option.


Florian

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-09 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Volker, *,

Volker Heggemann schrieb:

Hi Florian,

same problem at my side. I couldn't get out of the digest list?!
I don't know why?

what was the link used for unsubscribing digest uses a link different
from the one in the footer of each mail.

Send a mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org to get more info.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-09 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Friedrich Strohmaier schrieb:

Hi Volker, *,

Volker Heggemann schrieb:


Hi Florian,



same problem at my side. I couldn't get out of the digest list?!
I don't know why?


what was the link used for unsubscribing digest uses a link different
from the one in the footer of each mail.

Send a mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org to get more info.


or just tell the people interested in this topic, that you have to add 
the special way of subscription to the unsubscribe link:


discuss+unsubscribe-dig...@documentfoundation.org

discuss+unsubscribe-nom...@documentfoundation.org

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-09 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Bernhard Dippold wrote on 2010-10-09 19.50:


or just tell the people interested in this topic, that you have to add
the special way of subscription to the unsubscribe link:

discuss+unsubscribe-dig...@documentfoundation.org

discuss+unsubscribe-nom...@documentfoundation.org


You are indeed right, the link doesn't work for all subscription types. 
I've just replaced it with the help link, should be effective already 
on this mail.


Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Ian Whitfield

 Hi All

Whoever is running this list PLEASE sort the Unsubscribe system out!!

When I originally subscribed I got two automatic replies and the mail 
started to come in the next day - No problem


However I find there is just too much traffic and decided to 
unsubscribe. I sent off two unsubscribe messages as detailed and again 
got two automatic replies. That was over a week ago and I have not been 
removed from the list!!!


PLEASE sort this out. (and take me off both lists)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Ian,

 PLEASE sort this out. (and take me off both lists)


the system works, but I unsubscribed you manually right now from the
discuss list. Which other list shall I unsubscribe you from?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-08 9:29 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 PLEASE sort this out. (and take me off both lists)

Ian - the email you got was a confirmation that actually requires you to
click the CONFIRMATION link in it - if you don't click  the link, you
won't be unsubscribed.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread usonaulo-pete


--- On Fri, 10/8/10, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
 Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!
 To: discuss@documentfoundation.org
 Cc: Ian Whitfield whitfi...@federalsaints.net
 Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 9:29 AM
 Hi Ian,
 
  PLEASE sort this out. (and take me off both lists)
 
 
 the system works, but I unsubscribed you manually right now
 from the
 discuss list. Which other list shall I unsubscribe you
 from?
 
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe NOT working!!!

2010-10-08 Thread Volker Heggemann

Hi Florian,

same problem at my side. I couldn't get out of the digest list?!
I don't know why?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe link broken

2010-10-07 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 12:56 -0700, Earl Melton wrote:
 The first try bounced back and that was when I noticed that the link at the 
 bottom of each e-mail is only hot past the plus sign following the word 
 discuss. I then highlighted and copy/pasted the full link into the second 
 try. 
 Somebody may want to check this out.

That link is hot for the whole link in gmail online and in Evolution
on Ubuntu 10.04. What email client are you using? 

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe link broken

2010-10-07 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-07 3:56 PM, Earl Melton wrote:
 The first try bounced back and that was when I noticed that the link at the 
 bottom of each e-mail is only hot past the plus sign following the word 
 discuss. I then highlighted and copy/pasted the full link into the second 
 try. 
 Somebody may want to check this out.

I just unsubbed and resubbed with no problems using the links...

Methinks your client is busted...

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Unsubscribe link broken

2010-10-07 Thread Goran Rakic
У чет, 07. 10 2010. у 16:45 -0400, Charles Marcus пише:

 I just unsubbed and resubbed with no problems using the links...
 
 Methinks your client is busted...

As this can confuse other people, and we should try to make unsubscribe
for people as easy as possible to avoid angry emails, can we just drop
some words to make it fit in a single line:

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