Re: [jQuery] Announce: Unobtrusive JavaScript with jQuery andsymfony
François Zaninotto schreef: > Yes, that is exactly that. All calls to "UJS" helpers feed a buffer and the > code doesn't appear directly in the page. But the page includes a JavaScript > file, in which the buffered code is written. Therefore, all code included in > a "UJS" call is separated from the content, even if, for the developer, it > appears inside the template code. > > Francois > > -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la > part de John Resig > Envoyé : vendredi 2 mars 2007 09:17 > À : jQuery Discussion. > Objet : Re: [jQuery] Announce: Unobtrusive JavaScript with jQuery andsymfony > > David - > > I think the "catch" was the very last item that was mentioned on the > page: Grouping all "inline" JS snippets into a single file. That's what > makes the plugin all worth it. > > That is great, thanks for having patients with me. it wasn't clear to me how it all comes together. -- David Duymelinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/
Re: [jQuery] Announce: Unobtrusive JavaScript with jQuery andsymfony
Yes, that is exactly that. All calls to "UJS" helpers feed a buffer and the
code doesn't appear directly in the page. But the page includes a JavaScript
file, in which the buffered code is written. Therefore, all code included in
a "UJS" call is separated from the content, even if, for the developer, it
appears inside the template code.
Francois
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David -
I think the "catch" was the very last item that was mentioned on the
page: Grouping all "inline" JS snippets into a single file. That's what
makes the plugin all worth it.
--John
On 3/2/07, David Duymelinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> François Zaninotto schreef:
> > I'm not sure I get you... All the helpers described in the blog post
> > are bundled with the plugin. Or do you mean something else?
> >
> >
> Why would you need to have a function that writes inline javascript
> code if the whole idea of the plugin is to generate unobtrusive
javascript.
> I'm talking about the
>
> UJS_write function to be exact.
>
> http://www.symfony-project.com/trac/wiki/sfUJSPlugin#Addingsomecontent
> unobtrusively
>
> It is this example that confused me.
>
> false;">click me') ?>
>
> Isn't it better to write it as
>
> UJS_write('click me');
> UJS_add_behaviour('a.toggle', 'click', "$('#foobar').toggle();return
> false;"); ?>
>
> If you go unobtrusive go unobtrusive all the way :)
>
> Once i get around to learning how to use symfony i will definitively
> give your helper a try. I bet this will amaze my more code challenged
> colleagues :)
>
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Re: [jQuery] Announce: Unobtrusive JavaScript with jQuery andsymfony
David -
I think the "catch" was the very last item that was mentioned on the
page: Grouping all "inline" JS snippets into a single file. That's
what makes the plugin all worth it.
--John
On 3/2/07, David Duymelinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> François Zaninotto schreef:
> > I'm not sure I get you... All the helpers described in the blog post are
> > bundled with the plugin. Or do you mean something else?
> >
> >
> Why would you need to have a function that writes inline javascript code
> if the whole idea of the plugin is to generate unobtrusive javascript.
> I'm talking about the
>
> UJS_write function to be exact.
>
> http://www.symfony-project.com/trac/wiki/sfUJSPlugin#Addingsomecontentunobtrusively
>
> It is this example that confused me.
>
> false;">click me') ?>
>
> Isn't it better to write it as
>
> UJS_write('click me');
> UJS_add_behaviour('a.toggle', 'click', "$('#foobar').toggle();return false;");
> ?>
>
> If you go unobtrusive go unobtrusive all the way :)
>
> Once i get around to learning how to use symfony i will definitively give
> your helper a try. I bet this will amaze my more code challenged colleagues :)
>
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Re: [jQuery] Announce: Unobtrusive JavaScript with jQuery andsymfony
François Zaninotto schreef:
> I'm not sure I get you... All the helpers described in the blog post are
> bundled with the plugin. Or do you mean something else?
>
>
Why would you need to have a function that writes inline javascript code
if the whole idea of the plugin is to generate unobtrusive javascript.
I'm talking about the
UJS_write function to be exact.
http://www.symfony-project.com/trac/wiki/sfUJSPlugin#Addingsomecontentunobtrusively
It is this example that confused me.
click me') ?>
Isn't it better to write it as
click me');
UJS_add_behaviour('a.toggle', 'click', "$('#foobar').toggle();return false;");
?>
If you go unobtrusive go unobtrusive all the way :)
Once i get around to learning how to use symfony i will definitively give your
helper a try. I bet this will amaze my more code challenged colleagues :)
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Re: [jQuery] Announce: Unobtrusive JavaScript with jQuery andsymfony
I'm not sure I get you... All the helpers described in the blog post are bundled with the plugin. Or do you mean something else? -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de David Duymelinck Envoyé : jeudi 1 mars 2007 13:06 À : jQuery Discussion. Objet : Re: [jQuery] Announce: Unobtrusive JavaScript with jQuery andsymfony François Zaninotto schreef: > David, > > What you ask is exactly what the plugin does. Take a look at the blog > post explaining how you can use it to replace obtrusive javascript at: > > http://redotheweb.com/2007/02/28/unobtrusive-javascript-made-possible/ > > It's my mistake, I got it now you can write obtrusive but you have an helper to create unobtrusive javascript. Now i'm wondering is there a place for that helper in the plugin? It can be the cause for confusion and i'm example one :) -- David Duymelinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/ ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/
Re: [jQuery] Announce: Unobtrusive JavaScript with jQuery andsymfony
François Zaninotto schreef: > David, > > What you ask is exactly what the plugin does. Take a look at the blog post > explaining how you can use it to replace obtrusive javascript at: > > http://redotheweb.com/2007/02/28/unobtrusive-javascript-made-possible/ > > It's my mistake, I got it now you can write obtrusive but you have an helper to create unobtrusive javascript. Now i'm wondering is there a place for that helper in the plugin? It can be the cause for confusion and i'm example one :) -- David Duymelinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/
Re: [jQuery] Announce: Unobtrusive JavaScript with jQuery andsymfony
David,
What you ask is exactly what the plugin does. Take a look at the blog post
explaining how you can use it to replace obtrusive javascript at:
http://redotheweb.com/2007/02/28/unobtrusive-javascript-made-possible/
François
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François Zaninotto schreef:
> Hi list,
>
> I just pop in to mention a new plugin for the symfony framework
> (http://www.symfony-project.com) that uses jQuery to implement
> unobtrusive scripting. It's still in its infancy, but it takes the
> best of the jQuery syntax concision and provides useful tools for
> interface developers who worry about accessibility.
>
> The plugin description is available at:
>
> http://www.symfony-project.com/trac/wiki/sfUJSPlugin
>
I took a look at the demo's on the plugin page and the first thing i noticed
was the use of the onclick event. My idea of unobtrusive scripting is to
strip as much javascript as possible out of the html code.
wouldn't it be possible to do something like this
test
and render it like this
test
$(function(){
$('#foobar').click(function() { alert('foobar') });
});
i'm just thinking aloud. It could also be good to cache the javascript like
this
Anyway nice work. I feels good to see jquery hooked into php, before we know
it will be the prototype library of php :)
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