Re: [jQuery] So I guess Ajax is the end of the web

2006-09-06 Thread Chris Ovenden
The beauty of jQuery is that all the nasty, cross-browser
incompatibility stuff is kept under the hood. Even if the next ECMA
standard horribly breaks existing Javascript implementations - which
surely it won't, any more than Adobe would release a
backwards-incompatible version of Flash - the jQ library could be
rewritten to accommodate it so that all our $(...) statements work as
before.

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Re: [jQuery] So I guess Ajax is the end of the web

2006-09-05 Thread Rey Bango
> Flash 9 and Flex 2 are awesome, but its horses for courses. Flex 2 is
> for full on applications. JavaScript CAN achieve some of the same
> things in web applications, but it's power is that it works well with
> HTML and CSS in enhancing a web site, whereas Flex can do no such
> thing without making the site less accessible (IMO, though I think
> most would agree).

This was my main point in my original blog posting and what lead to my 
subsequent debate with Ryan on his blog. Flex 2 is not the "end all, be 
all" of RIA development and while Flex 2 does provide some really nice 
features, it is IMO, too heavy of a product for building RIA's for the 
Internet that most people use day to day, especially those on dialup. 
This is where technologies such as Javascript/Ajax/Interface/moo.fx et 
al. really shine.

Rey...

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Re: [jQuery] So I guess Ajax is the end of the web

2006-09-05 Thread Larry Garfield
On Tuesday 05 September 2006 22:04, Justin Carter wrote:
> On 9/6/06, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Figured you all might take a gander at this and weigh in:
> >
> > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Stewart/?p=101
> >
> > He and I have been having our own little "discussion". :P
> >
> > Rey...
>
> Ugh, I stopped reading half way and just skimmed the rest :P
>
> Flash 9 and Flex 2 are awesome, but its horses for courses. Flex 2 is
> for full on applications. JavaScript CAN achieve some of the same
> things in web applications, but it's power is that it works well with
> HTML and CSS in enhancing a web site, whereas Flex can do no such
> thing without making the site less accessible (IMO, though I think
> most would agree).

When I can write Flash in the open source text editor of my choice and have it 
play in full glory in an open source web browser on an open source OS with an 
open source flash player that isn't 3 versions behind, then I'll care about 
Flash.  Until then, it's dead to me.

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Re: [jQuery] So I guess Ajax is the end of the web

2006-09-05 Thread Justin Carter
On 9/6/06, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Figured you all might take a gander at this and weigh in:
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Stewart/?p=101
>
> He and I have been having our own little "discussion". :P
>
> Rey...

Ugh, I stopped reading half way and just skimmed the rest :P

Flash 9 and Flex 2 are awesome, but its horses for courses. Flex 2 is
for full on applications. JavaScript CAN achieve some of the same
things in web applications, but it's power is that it works well with
HTML and CSS in enhancing a web site, whereas Flex can do no such
thing without making the site less accessible (IMO, though I think
most would agree).

I wish people would draw the line in the sand a little more rather
than trying to put one up against the other every time - they both
have very good strengths :)

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Re: [jQuery] So I guess Ajax is the end of the web

2006-09-05 Thread Matt Stith
Yeah... all browsers supporting all standards.. that would be too easy! That will never happen!On 9/5/06, Rey Bango <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Figured you all might take a gander at this and weigh in:
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[jQuery] So I guess Ajax is the end of the web

2006-09-05 Thread Rey Bango
Figured you all might take a gander at this and weigh in:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Stewart/?p=101

He and I have been having our own little "discussion". :P

Rey...

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