Re: [IxDA Discuss] Carousel reference implementations?
I think acceleration is a more general issue than just carousel implementation. I am no mathematician. I've been using the Tweener class. If you are interested in acceleration you should definitely go take a look. http://code.google.com/p/tweener/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42686 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Carousel reference implementations?
Another solution is the 3D Wall Pro http://www.flashloaded.com/flashcomponents/3dwall/ If you just want to have a decent carousel effect. It's very easy to use, all parameters can be changed directly in XML . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42686 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Usability Lab Survey :2009
Hi All, I am looking at a survey similar to the one posted on http://www.useit.com/papers/uselabs.html That is from 1994. Am looking for something very recent. If at all you can help me with some information on the usability labs housed in your companies, it would be a great help! Thanks, Vin Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] [EVENT] June 26 ~ Deliverables with EightShapes Unify ~ Washington, DC
Want to master creating effective deliverables? In our second monthly workshop, Nathan Curtis will introduce the EightShapes Unify collection of deliverables and libraries. Your user experience documentation will never be the same. Details: * June 26, 1pm-5pm * The Mansion at Strathmore (convenient to Metro and parking) * Price $188 Register here: http://eightshapes.com/2009/05/03/deliverables-with-eightshapes-unify-june-2009-workshop/ See you there! -- Dan -- Dan Brown, Principal • (301) 801-4850 EightShapes, LLC • eightshapes.com Also at: communicatingdesign.com • greenonions.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tabs for content breadth/depth?
Another thing to note is that the tabbed region will consist of the menu with tab labels and the individual panes as separate entities. In context the label on the tab menu works as a header for the pane. Out of context, in the flow of the HTML document, each pane requires a header. If the end user disables javascript the panes will stack on top of one another. Without a header for each pane, the design pattern will consist of a menu at the top of a number of unlabelled panes. Ensuring each pane has a header label eliminates this problem. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42699 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tabs for content breadth/depth?
I would disagree that tabs must have rounded corners to be recognizable as 'tabs'. Not only are there numerous other methods for creating a tab metaphor (notched corners, color labels along the top or side borders, etc.) but many sites use rectangular borders with effective results. It's harder perhaps but not too difficult. And while the different browsers' implementations of CSS3 rounded corners is imperfect, it WILL make the process easier once fully implemented. I do want to complement DigiKev for including the part about making sure these tab structures degrade gracefully (or are progressively enhanced). Making sure this solution doesn't fall into chaos if javascript is disabled is a key aspect. Marty DeAngelo Director, UX Digitas Health On Tuesday, June 9, 2009, DigiKev wrote: > I also write the HTML and CSS for tabs when they are decided upon in > an interface. Tabs, in order to look visually like tabs, need to be > rounded at the top corners. The tab label needs to be able to expand > depending on the font size selected by the end user. This would all > be fine if browsers were able to round off corners. Mozilla and > Webkit browsers use proprietory code to replicate what CSS3 will > allow in interface designs. Internet Explorer unfortunately does > not. As a result hacks have to be implemented to add images in the > right places to provide rounded corners on each tab. Maybe you would > like the button to be more responsive so a different colour is used > for the mouse hover state - that is more images. Perhaps a selected > state too? More images. This kind of development is costly. > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Posted from the new ixda.org > http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42699 > > > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org > Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tabs for content breadth/depth?
Yes I agree I worded the need for rounded corners too strongly before. I do find that rounded corners are requested both by my head of digital and clients frequently. You can get away with other tab metaphors or straight edges but take on board that rounded corners may be requested. I was lucky in a recent implementation [Newcastle under Lyme College tab example] that progressive enhancement was accepted. Take a look at the example in both IE and FireFox/Safari browsers. IE degrades to straight edges whereas the CSS3 proprietary coded browsers round off. I feel with the spacing between tabs and the colouration used this was a successful implementation. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42699 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tabs for content breadth/depth?
Sorry, I thought a little HTML would be allowed, here is the link to the example http://www.nulc.ac.uk/pages/school_leavers/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42699 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Language picker examples
Hi all, I'm new to building internationalized web sites, and so I'm looking at design patterns for language pickers. Have you seen any good ones? Much appreciated. Thanks! Jason R. -- Jason Robb http://jasonrobb.com http://uxboston.com http://uiscraps.tumblr.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Young Designer Seeking Advice
Thank you every one for your feedback. This is helping me tremendously. Best, Matt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42644 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Language picker examples
This is a really clear and user-friendly one: http://www.williamhill.com/ (Full disclosure: I used to work for them but left before they redesigned the site to its current version) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42722 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhone sketching tools
Thanks for your comment, Christian. I should have clarified my post: I always start with pencil or pen, but I eventually move into some type of electronic format since it's easier to share with remote teams. My goal was to summarize some electronic options & their corresponding templates. I updated my blog to reflect your concerns. Thanks! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42705 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)
Jason, Did you read my mind I was just about to send out a similar post. My line of thought was about best practices on how users select countries and languages on global websites. A few questions... Should sites auto detect IP addresses and serve default settings according to country, language? Should users have ability to chose their preferred country and language preferences off a splash page as in Ikea.com on a first visit (and/or subsequent visits) and have the ability to change at will? Thanks Catríona __ Catríona Lohan-Conway User Experience Architect 917 405 5127 clohancon...@mac.com On Wednesday, June 10, 2009, at 03:51AM, "Jason Robb" wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm new to building internationalized web sites, and so I'm looking >at design patterns for language pickers. > >Have you seen any good ones? Much appreciated. Thanks! > >Jason R. > >-- >Jason Robb >http://jasonrobb.com >http://uxboston.com >http://uiscraps.tumblr.com > > > >Reply to this thread at ixda.org >http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42722 > > >Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! >To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org >Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe >List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines >List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Language picker examples
Jason - you may find some useful examples in this thread: http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=42588 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42722 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Random text generation for keyboard usability study
I'm conducting a usability study on a variety of keyboards. I need scientifically-sound random (yet grammatical) text for the users to type. Does anyone here know of an online resource for text like this? Is there a standard? Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Low Cost, Off Site, Remote Testing Options and Strategies
Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has experience with very low cost, off-site testing software and strategies. In the next few months I may have to conduct several off-site interaction observations but will not be able to travel. At my disposal are some quiet testing rooms equipped with computers that have web cams. I'm looking for suggestions of low cost remote testing software that I could employ to run / record interaction sessions with subjects remotely. Platform isn't so important, but something that can run on both OS X as well as Windows would be nice and cause less of a hassle. In the past I've used Moray, but the price is a bit prohibitive for the kind of low-fi work I'll be doing. In addition to software suggestions, does anyone have any helpful hints about basic strategy? Not being on site, I'll probably use a remote partner to serve as the prompter for the test, but that partner will most likely not have any IxD (or related) training, so I want to keep their role as slim as possible. All ideas and suggestions are welcome. Usually I would be on site doing the setup, and have someone else do the remote recording, but this time I'm flying solo. Sincerely, Damon Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Low Cost, Off Site, Remote Testing Options and Strategies
Have you looked at UserVue? It's another TechSmith product, like Morae: http://www.techsmith.com/uservue.asp I'm in a similar position, and so far, UserVue is looking like a good option in terms of features and ease of setup, although I really wish it weren't Windows-only. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42729 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Tabs for content breadth/depth?
Thanks DigiKev for the reminder of how semantic markup will aide in graceful degradation in this case. I too am - or was, until my recent position - the person who not only designed, but also built the interfaces (HTML/CSS presentation). I'm struggling to get that sort of thing done here as our website is nearly 100% built in a CMS, which requires us to use modules that had been developed long before I arrived. And, I would agree with Marty that rounded corners are not necessary from an intuitive as well as design standpoint. Sounds like you agree as well, but have been - like me - regularly requested to incorporate such design treatment. I think tab design should blend well with the design perspective of the site, which means that it could be nearly anything. :) Something I just realized yesterday while I was wireframing a version using tabs is that tabs seem great if there is enough content to fill the space. However, some of my content is quite limited and it feels like I'd be forcing the tab pattern onto something that really doesn't warrant it in the first place. -Jennifer -Jennifer . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42699 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Random text generation for keyboard usability study
A good one to use is: The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog It includes all lets of the alphabet. Best wishes, Marvin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42728 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] JOB: mobile ux documentation wizard / nyc / frog design / contract
Looking for a extremely detail-oriented (nearly OCD) UX designer with 3-5 years experience in mobile user experience requirements documentation - wireframes, workflows, etc. for a 6 week contract in NYC. Must be able to collaborate from our offices in Hudson Square area for a majority of the engagement. This is a fast and intense schedule and we can only entertain rock star level designers. Must have demonstrable skills in Visio, InDesign, and / or Omnigraffle - and more importantly correct spelling and grammar. Need someone ASAP. Send CV and relevant examples directly to jfgros...@frogdesign.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Low Cost, Off Site, Remote Testing Options and Strategies
UserVue is a very good option. I conducted remote UTs with users worldwide using UserVue! True, it would have been great had it supported MacOS. As for the strategy... I mailed them a basic information guide so that they become aware of what the process will be and how we will proceed with the test. Uservue comes with a telephone dial in as well. So all that is taken care. But this feature works only in the US (& Canada). Again, with uservue, to record the facial expressions is not possible. But apart from that its a great tool to use! You wont regret using it! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42729 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability Lab Survey :2009
http://app.sgizmo.com/surveybuilder/preview_survey.php?id=144726 Please click on the above link and help me with the information am trying to gather about usability labs worldwide. There are merely 10 questions to answer. Your contribution is highly appreciated. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42716 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Low Cost, Off Site, Remote Testing Options and Strategies
This is a great post and doc put together on the subject of remote testing tools: http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=41325 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42729 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability Lab Survey :2009
Please use the below link to enter the survey. http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/144726/user-experience-labs-survey Please spare some time to complete the same. You inputs will add a lot of value to this survey. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42716 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Low Cost, Off Site, Remote Testing Options and Strategies
Does anyone have any experience with Silverback? http://silverbackapp.com/ Will Meurer wrote: > This is a great post and doc put together on the subject of remote > testing tools: http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=41325 > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Posted from the new ixda.org > http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42729 > > > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org > Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhone sketching tools
For both Christian and Suzanne (for your pencil sketching mode): http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/10/sketch-an-iphone-app-ui-with-special-stencil/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42705 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Low Cost, Off Site, Remote Testing Options and Strategies
Y'all need to see my round-up of remote usability testing tools, which I posted & published here on the list some weeks ago: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pc-NAeDLmYFveCRlIejNuFA&hl=en And I'll add a quick request for folks to try searching for some information on the Discussion list before posting your message...we end up with lots of repeat topics. Our upcoming new website will address this issue in various ways, but in the meantime it's a manual process. Cheers, Liz Vice-President, IxDA / www.ixda.org CDO, Devise / www.devise.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Low Cost, Off Site, Remote Testing Options and Strategies
Damon, I just reviewed several options for remote user testing in December. Our requirements were: 1. allow user to control the screen 2. record the screen movements 3. video recordings needed to play on WMP or similar 4. Low cost, subscription where you can cancel I looked at: Adobe Acrobat Connect TechSmith - Morae and UserVue GoToMeeting - $49/month. We decided on GoToMeeting. It works great, and you can use the VoIP recording, or just pay for a cheap conference service. I like AccuConference. Email me if you want more help. I did 10 sessions, then I took the videos and audio MP3s and put them together in Windows Movie Maker. There were several steps for each participant, but in the end it was great to capture exactly what they were doing. I also converted the videos to iPod format (as a test. The team didn't need them). JR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42729 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)
Always ALWAYS do for the user what you can do for them. Auto-detect and provide -some- way to second guess the machine. But don't expect a lot of people to second guess. The best language picker is the one the user never sees. If you can't auto-detect, and you almost always can, a decent picker would be one that makes it easy to find the most common choices. And possible to find the least common. English - French - German - Spanish - Pig Latin - Klingon In the respective languages of course. Followed by a select box with all of them in alphabetical order, even the ones you selected to break out into links. Best of all worlds, I think. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42726 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Advice on Grid for Visual Studio Developers?
Is anyone aware of a developer's reference on defining a layout grid (or the atomic unit thereof) in Visual Studio? I've tried searching, but am perhaps not using the right search terms. I mentioned the need for all our UIs to be designed according to a grid, and got some "deer in the headlights." And when I used 960 site as a means to convey my point, they got it... but responded with "that's CSS - for web development. We're building desktop apps, and we're not aware of any way to define a layout grid in Visual Studio - short of manually placing each grid line, for each project -- which we're not going to do." Thanks! Scot Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhone sketching tools
Perhaps others posted indirect links to this, but I just bought one today. http://www.designcommission.com/shop/iphone-stencil-kit/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42705 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help