Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
The interesting thing about the suggestion/recommendation of Launchy and Dash is that they're both keystroke-oriented interfaces, and I find that fascinating, since it begins to show that for some users, the OS' [G]UI gets in the way and is not the most effective method of interaction. It reminds me of the presentation by David Cronin at Interaction '08, in which he pretty much says the same thing regarding applications for day traders and systems they use, which have basically command-line interpreters built in since time is of the essence and it's actually quicker for them to enter in the commands and data than to try to point-and-click. Thanks for recommending these utilities, since it certainly gets me thinking in other directions with regard to projects I'm working on (or may have to work on in the future), not just Windows or OS user interaction. evan k. stone | ui guy | dragnet solutions, inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Austin Mansu Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction? In a perfect world Windows would ship with Launchy Dash would also be handy: http://trydash.com/home/ There's a few extra features here to Launchy but they also come at a small price. (What I wouldn't give to have Quicksilver on Windows). Austin Mansu Information Architect Executive | OneDigital Pty Limited __ p. + 61 (0)2 9218 8904 f. + 61 (0)2 9211 4232 m. + 61 (0)411 015 232 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] w. www.onedigital.com.au Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
The GUI was, IMHO, never intended to make things faster, just easier. The GUI brought computers to the rest of us who couldn't be bothered to learn command-line syntax and the mystical inner-workings of an 'invisible' machine. Now, after years of use for some, some have become computer-savvy (whatever that means). Not to say we all speak l33t and can operate exclusively in the Terminal, but for me, as a GUI-user, I have also found that once I've mastered a task in the GUI, the next step is to find a way to do my mastered tasks faster. That's where Quicksilver comes into play ... and Macros, and some Terminal use, and the deeper config/preferences/advanced settings of my most-used apps, controls etc. My $.25 B On 4/9/08 9:08 AM, Evan K. Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The interesting thing about the suggestion/recommendation of Launchy and Dash is that they're both keystroke-oriented interfaces, and I find that fascinating, since it begins to show that for some users, the OS' [G]UI gets in the way and is not the most effective method of interaction. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
No wait just a minute ... Why are you assuming a developer was behind this? We just build it to specification. I can tell you that I have held my nose more than a couple of times over the years and implemented flawed functionality that some clever IA came up with. rant... Some clever developer was just so certain that all of us would always want to save all of our files in the root My Documents folder... forever./rant Developers lurk here too :) Zack Frazier -- Senior Developer VSA Partners, Inc. http://www.vsapartners.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
I would make the quick launch replace the Start Programs and let that lie as a ribbon that can be toggled on/off on the desktop. Instead of the entire task bar, I'd break it into two modules, Start/Control Panel and Active Programs/Clock. - the Start/Control would be just the Start button, movable anywhere. Clicking on it give the power, run, search, and control panel - the active program/clock would be a bar that goes no more than 3/4 the length or height of the screen; showing open programs grouped with number of windows After that, I'd redo the window chrome to not use the bars that are there but only hover areas in the corners for menu (top left) and move/close (top right) actions. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=27853 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
In a perfect world Windows would ship with Launchy Dash would also be handy: http://trydash.com/home/ There's a few extra features here to Launchy but they also come at a small price. (What I wouldn't give to have Quicksilver on Windows). Austin Mansu Information Architect Executive | OneDigital Pty Limited __ p. + 61 (0)2 9218 8904 f. + 61 (0)2 9211 4232 m. + 61 (0)411 015 232 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] w. www.onedigital.com.au Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
Make cut/copy/paste work consistenly in Windows own applications with the right click popup menu so I don't have to keep switching between mouse and keyboard unnecessarily. E.g. why can't I right click in the calculator to copy a result but have to use the Edit menu or Ctrl-c instead? Same thing for some fields in Outlook appointments. I can use right click and select in the Subject field but not a date field. Ctrl-c works in both. Or when trying to insert a hyperlink in a Word document. Right click is ignored in the Text to Display and Address fields but Ctrl-c works. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=27853 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
1. Focus stealers: I'm just sick and tired (juvenile enough?) ... 2. Pop those balloons: ... Oh thank you I am not alone on this. I dislike 2 but seriously dislike 1. You busy typing and IE throws a popup with a file you were busy downloading being taken from the temp file and wham, you cancelled it by accident because you were busy typing in word. And Maxim, Total Commander is the second program I always install after Windows. :) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
1) Oh, for tab completion in file-path fields! 2) Spotlight-esque search (does vista do that?) 3) The ability to keep programs open but loose the windows (a la os x) thereby removing the load time. 4) Expose 5) A way to ensure that docking and undocking a laptop and using a second screen doesn't swap the identities of the screens at random. It might be a driver issue, but there should be an upstream method of fixing it. Well, those are my biggest quibbles. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
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What would you change? ..The past..? -- Sergiu Sebastian Tauciuc http://www.sergiutauciuc.ro/en/ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
What would you add? What would you change? Might be better to ask what we *wouldn't* change. That list would be far easier to write. :) -r- Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
I won't make jokes on Microsoft OSs - making OS is a difficult job, and I'm sure we won't miss my contribution :) However, I REALLY wish Windows would fix the following 3 things: 1. Focus stealers: I'm just sick and tired (juvenile enough?) of things starting up, usurping focus as though they were the most important thing on my machine, again and again and again. Just give me a setting whereby if anything needs my focus, it gets in line!!! And let me do what I wish to do right now. 2. Pop those balloons: The incessant ballooning is out of control. I need an EASY way to turn them off or control their behavior. For example, I don't need to know everytime a server mapping becomes un/available or that I must choose another network everytime my wireless goes missing. Yes they are important, but please, let me choose when/how to be informed. 3. Folder search UI: I can't believe how every time Microsoft touches the folder search UI, it only can make it worse. It used to be straight-up fields in windows NT. By XP, we have this bloated default UI that wants to ask me all these questions. Thinking about the mousework to navigate that is amazing - click 'when was it modified?', scroll down, select a radio button, mess with some drop-downs, click 'other search options' oh wait, did that actually show me anything more or just bump me up to the top? I could go on for a while. And quite recently there was a Windows update that changed the search UI further, without warning! I had to google around to get info on modifying registry to turn it off! Just give me a switch to go between all this hand-holding and a fields-only UI that simply displays relevant fields. And please, no animated animals (or clips). That's another thing to tweak when you first use search. -Peyush Many of us use Windows everyday and I'm sure you've noticed things, you would be done differently or something you really miss there... What would you add? What would you change? Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
3. Folder search UI: I can't believe how every time Microsoft touches the folder search UI, it only can make it worse. It used to be straight-up fields in windows NT. By XP, we have this bloated default UI that wants to ask me all these questions. Yeah, I feel your pain as well. I cant really use Windows built-in (I use XP) file search. Hard to explain why, may be I'm stupid, but I dont always understand how it works. So for file operations I use Total Comander (ex Windows Commander). I know, it's more for advanced users, but it's pretty obsious to me how it works (even though it's far from being perfect as well). -- Maxim Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Maxim Soloviev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would you add? What would you change? rantSeveral times a day I'm frustrated by file save dialogs that don't remember the last place I saved a file two minutes ago in the same program. Some clever developer was just so certain that all of us would always want to save all of our files in the root My Documents folder... forever./rant Then I come back to my faithful friend Photoshop and the Save for the Web window works exactly how it ought to - remembering the last place I put a file and offering that location the next time. Michael Micheletti Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Windows -- what would you change in interaction?
In a perfect world Windows would ship with Launchy http://www.launchy.net/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=27853 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
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In a perfect world Windows would ship with Launchy Windows? In a perfect world?? I kid. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
