Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The depth of FOSS Spatial Data Infrastructure

2010-08-03 Thread dirk frigne

Hi Ravi,

Can you mail the document to me also? I will give my 2c in return.

Dirk



Chris Puttick wrote:

Sounds like an excellent document! Email it on and I'll have it neatly 
butchered. The web portal claim is remarkable, as are claims of limited 
analysis capabilities.

Regards

Chris

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Some so called SDI experts feel that FOSS SDI cannot perform at-par
with Proprietary SDI.
Please provide examples to fight a case from an Indian state which
swears by Free and Open Source Software. We can never expect a better
level playing field.

Kerala - India

Here are some excerpts from a document that has false claims
supporting Proprietary Software.

However, it is worthwhile to mention here that the OSS (Open Source
Software) does not match the advanced functionalities of many of the
commercial (proprietory) software that is in the market. Image
processing and analysis capabilities of the open source software is
not comparable to the commercial software when one require to carry
out advanced data manipulations, image fusion, 3D modeling,
ortho-correction, auto-georeferencing, stereo-image/air photo
interpretation, advanced geospatial analysis etc., In such cases,
certain proprietary software become an integral part of the Spatial
Data Infrastructures, which can not be avoided. At a later stage the
some of the proprietary software need to be purchased.

It is a well known fact that web portal that run with OSS are neither
OGC-compliant nor
interoperable. At the present juncture it is only possible to
establish the KSDI Geoportal
with the available COTS enterprise software.

The detailed PDF document will be emailed on demand.

Ravi Kumar


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[OSGeo-Discuss] 1 week to test the OSGeo-Live DVD before we burn it

2010-08-03 Thread Cameron Shorter
The OSGeo-Live DVD is looking great, with 43 pre-configured GeoSpatial 
Open Source packages and marketing documentation.


It will be sent to the printers next week, Monday 9 August, and we are 
calling on all projects to test their applications and documentation and 
verify everything is working fine.


Could everyone with an interest please:

   * download an ISO or Virtual Machine from here:
 http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/4.0-rc6/
   * run (and update) test steps for your project. Test steps might be
 Run steps in QuickStart. Record results here:
 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Testing
   * review documentation:
 http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/4.0-rc6/osgeolive-docs/index.html
   * if inspired - write a quickstart, or add screen shots to an
 existing quickstart.
   * fix anything that is broken

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Mapguide 2.1 and ESRI ARCGis

2010-08-03 Thread Erik Heinze-Milne
Has anyone tried to install Mapguide 2.1 and ARCGIS on the same server
before? When I try Mapguide seems to take over ARCs connections, causing ARC
not to work.

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapGuide and Xamp

2010-08-03 Thread Robert Bray

This list is for general OSGeo discussions and not for project specific 
questions. For MapGuide support sign up for the mapguide-users mailing list 
here: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-users.

Then send your question to 
mapguide-us...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:mapguide-us...@lists.osgeo.org.

Thanks
Bob


From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] 
On Behalf Of Rauf Ahmad
Sent: August-03-10 7:29 AM
To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapGuide and Xamp


Hy every body !

Its my first mail to this Discussion forum

I want to configure the mapGuide with the Apache of Xamp plz help me bcz i m 
quite new in Mapguide.




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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mapguide 2.1 and ESRI ARCGis

2010-08-03 Thread Robert Bray
This list is for general OSGeo discussions and not for project specific 
questions. For MapGuide support sign up for the mapguide-users mailing list 
here: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-users.

Then send your question to 
mapguide-us...@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:mapguide-us...@lists.osgeo.org.

Thanks
Bob

From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] 
On Behalf Of Erik Heinze-Milne
Sent: August-03-10 8:40 AM
To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mapguide 2.1 and ESRI ARCGis

Has anyone tried to install Mapguide 2.1 and ARCGIS on the same server before? 
When I try Mapguide seems to take over ARCs connections, causing ARC not to 
work.

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Superficial review of copyright issues related tocollection and publication of education material on OSGeoWebsite (LINK)

2010-08-03 Thread Landon Blake
Simon,

Thank you for the hard work you have put into summarizing the copyright
issues related to OSGeo content. I have a personal goal of preparing
some articles and tutorials related to FOSS geospatial software. I
didn't give enough consideration to the licensing of the (1) tutorial
text, (2) screenshots of software, and (3) geospatial data used in the
tutorial. In some other cases we might need to consider licensing of
another tutorial component, the source code presented and discussed in
an article.

I hope you get some constructive feedback on your summary. I believe it
raised some important issues.

Landon
Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
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[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Simon Cropper
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:39 PM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Superficial review of copyright issues related
tocollection and publication of education material on OSGeoWebsite
(LINK)

Hi Everyone,

If anyone is interested I have posted a lengthy post on the OSGeo-Edu
list.

http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/edu_discuss/2010-August/001179.html

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Superficial review of copyright issues related tocollection and publication of education material on OSGeoWebsite (LINK)

2010-08-03 Thread George Silva
Regarding images used in the tutorial, specially where it was asked to
license the pictures/images that are a product of spatial analysis or some
procedure:

Couldn't we make a few stub images representing basic operations and give
them away for free? Without actual data? I know it doesn't cover all cases,
but it's a start. Something like the one attached?

George

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Landon Blake lbl...@ksninc.com wrote:

 Simon,

 Thank you for the hard work you have put into summarizing the copyright
 issues related to OSGeo content. I have a personal goal of preparing
 some articles and tutorials related to FOSS geospatial software. I
 didn't give enough consideration to the licensing of the (1) tutorial
 text, (2) screenshots of software, and (3) geospatial data used in the
 tutorial. In some other cases we might need to consider licensing of
 another tutorial component, the source code presented and discussed in
 an article.

 I hope you get some constructive feedback on your summary. I believe it
 raised some important issues.

 Landon
 Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658


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 From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
 [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Simon Cropper
 Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 7:39 PM
 To: OSGeo Discussions
 Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Superficial review of copyright issues related
 tocollection and publication of education material on OSGeoWebsite
 (LINK)

 Hi Everyone,

 If anyone is interested I have posted a lengthy post on the OSGeo-Edu
 list.

 http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/edu_discuss/2010-August/001179.html

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 Cheers Simon

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] mxd to other format (i.e. shapefile)

2010-08-03 Thread Fawcett, David (MPCA)
Essentially, yes.  The .mxd does not store the actual geometry or attributes of 
a spatial data set, it just stores a path (or database connection info) to the 
data source.  

So, the data that you are viewing in ArcMap may already be in a shapefile 
format.  To determine the source of the layer that you are viewing, 
double-click or right-click  properties on the layer.  On the 'general' tab, 
you should see the source for that data layer.  

If the data is local and it is not in a data format that you can use, you could 
likely use the gdal/ogr tools to convert it to shapefile  (unless it is in the 
ESRI  File Geodatabase proprietary data format).

It could be that you are viewing a data source that is being served to you as a 
Web Map Service (WMS).  In this case, the server is only exposing/sending 
pictures of the geometry data, so you would not be able to convert this easily 
to a vector format like shapefile.

David. 

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On Behalf Of maning sambale
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:47 PM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] mxd to other format (i.e. shapefile)

George,

To get this right, mxd are actually just a styling file similar to
Arcview's apr and avl?

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM, George Silva georger.si...@gmail.com wrote:
 You must be confusing things here Maning,

 Mxd is the format that ArcGIS uses to store mapdocuments, while
 shapefiles/database geometry data/coverages/rasters are displayed on that
 map. If you only have the mxd you won't be able to convert anything to
 shapefile. You need the original data.

 A Mxd is much like an HTML. It provides information on how content is
 organized, but it's not content itself.

 George

 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:21 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 No luck so far looking for a converter.

 Basically, I want to export geometry and attributes without the
 styling from an Arc's mxd format to shapefile.

 Any workaround here (other then looking for an ArcGIS installed machine)?
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Announcing AGU Session N19. Information Technology Infusion Success Strategies

2010-08-03 Thread Karl Benedict
Dear Colleagues, 

We are pleased to announce the following session for the Fall 2010 American 
Geophysical Union (AGU) Meeting being held in San Francisco, California from 
December 13-17 (http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm10/). 

N19. Information Technology Infusion Success Strategies 
(http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm10/program/scientific_session_search.php?show=detailsessid=441)

Description: Large programs that manage Earth science remote sensing data have 
a vested interest in seeing those data products widely used. Information 
technology has a significant impact throughout the life cycle from sensor data 
processing to multi-sensor data production to data assimilation. To ignore 
changing technology is costly, so proactively  planning for infusion and 
adaptation is a strategic necessity. This session seeks technology infusion 
experiences and how the corresponding lessons learned can benefit present and 
future efforts. Examples of problems and solutions to technology infusion in 
remote sensing data systems are desired, specifically those dealing with data 
processing, system interoperability and service oriented architectures.

Please consider submitting an abstract and forwarding this announcement to 
potentially interested colleagues. 

The submission deadline for abstracts is September 2, 2010.


Thanks for your consideration, 

Karen Moe, NASA. karen.l@nasa.gov
Karl Benedict, University of New Mexico. kb...@edac.unm.edu
Brian Wilson, Nasa (JPL). brian.wil...@jpl.nasa.gov
Ruth Duerr, National Snow and Ice Data Center. rdu...@nsidc.org



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[OSGeo-Discuss] Data format frustration - too general!

2010-08-03 Thread berryman

Hello,

I am hope to use GIS for a traffic analysis program that I am involved with. 
After having looked at a couple weeks worth of GIS resources, I still feel
like I haven't found what I'm looking for and it's time to get some human
input.

The main source of my frustration is that all of the standard data formats
seem to be too general for my purpose.  Common formats provide the ability
to encode points, lines, polylines, and polygons (where the locations are
unitless).  But I need the ability to encode the geographic location (e.g.
lat/long, NAD83) of high-level constructs.  For instance, I'm not just
interested in the location of streets, I'm interested in the location of
each lane.  I also need to know how street topology and traffic direction so
that I can make path planning determinations.  Finally, it would even be
ideal if I could encode the location of traffic signals, stop signs,
bus-only lanes, etc.

I know that these types of encoding must exist somewhere , because my Garmin
GPS understands the rules of the streets and can anticipate things coming
up.  For instance, it might tell me stay in the right lane.  Are there
standard data formats for encoding this information?  Or is the ability to
encode this a non-public extension of some more generic standard?  If so,
then how do I go about extending some other standard for my application?

Thanks all!
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