Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Android vector renderer

2011-04-29 Thread Andreas Hocevar
Hi,

why not use OpenLayers then? It works on Android, can read vector data
files, gives programmatic access to the features and geometries, and
supports the creation of vector features. And if wrapped in PhoneGap
or Titanium, it will also give you write access to the file system.

Andreas.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Johannes Bolz johannes-b...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I am looking for a vector rendering library for the Android OS that should
 be able to:

 - render vector data from a file (preferrably .osm)
 - give programmatical access to the file's features and shapes
 - support overlays for vector creation (similar to OpenLayers)

 The apps/libraries I've found so far lack at least one of those
 functionalities. The second point doesn't need to be met if the app reads
 from an XML-style file (which I might evaluate separately).

 I'm developing an indoor map application that should be able to evaluate
 it's underlying data.

 Kind regards,
 Johannes

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Android vector renderer

2011-04-29 Thread Mohammed Rashad
OpenLayers cannot render shapefile directly but using mapserver it can
we use gdal which can render more format than OpenLayers
changing shapefile viewer to Vector viewer for android is a change of single
line in code :)

see
http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html

Reason2:
we need a shapefile viewer which works on both desktop and android phones
(symbian is also possible)
The Online Shapefile viewer does need to make any changes in source to run
on android. It needs only recompilation
So we have two supported platform in one.

If we use OpenLayers we need to use OpenLayers mobile for android and
OpenLayers for PCs for web
and also we need to make some changes in source of OpenLayers when we switch
between different mobile platforms

http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_formats.html

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Andreas Hocevar ahoce...@opengeo.orgwrote:

 Hi,

 why not use OpenLayers then? It works on Android, can read vector data
 files, gives programmatic access to the features and geometries, and
 supports the creation of vector features. And if wrapped in PhoneGap
 or Titanium, it will also give you write access to the file system.

 Andreas.

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Johannes Bolz johannes-b...@gmx.net
 wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I am looking for a vector rendering library for the Android OS that
 should
  be able to:
 
  - render vector data from a file (preferrably .osm)
  - give programmatical access to the file's features and shapes
  - support overlays for vector creation (similar to OpenLayers)
 
  The apps/libraries I've found so far lack at least one of those
  functionalities. The second point doesn't need to be met if the app reads
  from an XML-style file (which I might evaluate separately).
 
  I'm developing an indoor map application that should be able to evaluate
  it's underlying data.
 
  Kind regards,
  Johannes
 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] presentation template for coding training?

2011-04-29 Thread andrea antonello
Hi all, I am not sure how to ask this.

Is there any template/software/application that is particularly
suitable to prepare pdf slides to give development courses.

I would imagine such an application as something that supplies nice
help for embedding code snippets and similar things and could be
updated easily.

I have a feeling that sphinx might be such a tool, but I never used it
and am not sure if it can be useful for that purpose.

Thanks,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] presentation template for coding training?

2011-04-29 Thread Paolo Corti
On Friday, April 29, 2011, andrea antonello andrea.antone...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all, I am not sure how to ask this.

 Is there any template/software/application that is particularly
 suitable to prepare pdf slides to give development courses.

 I would imagine such an application as something that supplies nice
 help for embedding code snippets and similar things and could be
 updated easily.

 I have a feeling that sphinx might be such a tool, but I never used it
 and am not sure if it can be useful for that purpose.

 Thanks,
 Andrea

Hi Andrea

I personally write slides in reST and then convert them to s5 with rst2s5.
You may use then Sphinx if you want to publish your material as
documentation on web.
all this stuff is awesome, IMHO

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P

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4G program community voting now open!

2011-04-29 Thread Peter Batty
Hi Bob,

No, there isn't a url with selection criteria. We are using the same process
as in previous years. The primary factor in selection is what the community
deems to be interesting, as indicated by the results of this poll. The
conference organizing committee uses that as input to decide on the final
program. One of the main things the committee will consider in making
adjustments is the balance of the program - we will use our judgment to
switch in or out some papers if we feel certain topics or projects are over
or under represented. And we will try to make sure there is a suitable mix
of introductory and advanced topics, etc. We've discussed selection criteria
on the committee and feel there are too many variables to be able document
anything very meaningful - it basically comes down to the judgment of the
committee, who represent a wide range of experience and backgrounds.

In previous years the poll results haven't been published, just the final
list of papers accepted by the committee, and this is our plan for this year
also. It's already a very difficult and time consuming task for the
committee to select (approximately) 120 papers from 300 very strong
submissions, even with the input from the community vote (which is something
unique to FOSS4G among conferences I've been involved with). So in common
with other conferences, we really can't afford to give individual feedback
or get into discussions with the 180 disappointed submitters on why they
weren't selected, that's just not going to be practical. I think that
publishing the vote results, which are the primary factor but still just
part of the evaluation, would would raise more questions than answers and
make the committee's job harder than it already is.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Peter.


On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Moskovitz, Bob 
bob.moskov...@conservation.ca.gov wrote:

 Hi Peter,



 Can you tell me if there is a url where I can find the selection criteria?
  Will we be able to see the results of this poll?



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 Hi all,

 In response to a question I received, I wanted to let everyone know that
 papers that were submitted for the academic track only go through a separate
 review process and are not included in the community voting. A few abstracts
 were submitted for consideration in both the academic track and the regular
 program, and those are included in the community voting.

 Cheers,
  Peter.

 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter Batty pe...@ebatty.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 The community voting system is now open for FOSS4G 2011, at
 http://community-review.foss4g.org/ . Please try to take some time to
 review the abstracts and indicate your level of interest in each. The
 conference committee will use the results of the vote to help choose which
 presentations to accept, and to assign appropriately sized rooms based on
 level of interest. Voting will be open this week and next, closing on May
 8th.

 Cheers,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Gvsig_english] New site demonstrating the use of Free Open Source Software

2011-04-29 Thread Cameron Shorter
Simon, I'm also watching your progress with interest, and hope that we 
can align your work and the OSGeo-Live material.


On the point of datasets, I'm open to incorporating a fine grained 
dataset on OSGeo-Live, if it is going to be valuable to a number of 
projects, and is suitably compact to fit on the OSGeo-Live DVD.


On 28/04/11 12:02, Simon Cropper wrote:

On 28/04/11 11:28, Jody Garnett wrote:
You should find that the committees mentioned are aware of these 
issues. In
particular the osgeo live project is standardising on the use of the 
natural

earth dataset in order to be above board.


This is good but very few people actually do work at that scale. I 
hope that now we have some data at a finer resolution we will see some 
other tutorials demonstrating techniques typically done on a day to 
day basis.



If it helps; for the next release of uDig I was going to switch to the
natural earth dataset in order to better fit with OSGeo live; and be

 more generally interesting for a world wide audience.

This sounds good but as stated most users work at a regional level not 
continent wide level.


From my standpoint it is annoying having any number of projects 
asking for

content to be written; and no procedures in place to easily accept the
content that is available.

The first project that sits down and defines how submit word, pdf, html,
rst, odf etc... (with manual steps if needed) will have a much greater
chance of success. Perhaps that project will be yours?


I agree. I have resisted finalising my tutorial on 'preparing 
tutorials' so I can iron out any nuances before asking others to 
follow the same procedure. I think that after a couple of more 
tutorials I should be happy with the process and will publish my notes.


I have also developed a few simple python routines that make those 
finicky things deeded to make a webpage functional, easy to do. These 
will be published and explained on the scripting subdomain.


So far I have...
1. A reasonable HTML template (no need for contributor to change)
2. A reasonable style setup (no need for contributor to change)
3. Sound metadata model
4. Appropriate and diverse dataset to demonstrate techniques
5. Easy screen capturing procedure
6. A range of simple to use scripts to automate those few irritating 
tasks (gather images data and insert tags into HTML document, 
create/maintain navigation lists, synchronise metadata throughout 
website, create PDFs).


Most of these are reasonably stable now, so as stated above, after a 
few more published tutorials I will be releasing these for others to use.





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[OSGeo-Discuss] Introduction to geospatial open source event at FOSS4G

2011-04-29 Thread Peter Batty
Hi all,

This has already been mentioned on the FOSS4G list, but I wanted to make
sure that everyone was aware that we'll be a doing a one day introduction
to geospatial open source event the day before the main conference starts,
in parallel with the pre-conference workshops. This will be aimed at a broad
audience, but in particular at users, developers and managers involved with
geospatial software / GIS who haven’t yet had significant involvement with
open source. It will work equally well as a standalone event, or as a way of
getting up to speed to get the most out of the full FOSS4G conference.

More details at http://2011.foss4g.org/intro-details/.

If you know of people who could benefit from this, please let them know!
We'll be publicizing it through various channels.

The event is being organized by Brian Timoney, who has previously run
several similar events locally. We have several speakers lined up already,
and we'll be looking over the abstracts submitted to the main conference
also, and may ask some people to participate based on those. If you have
suggestions or interest in participating feel free to contact Brian or
myself.

Cheers,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Gvsig_english] New site demonstrating the use of Free Open Source Software

2011-04-29 Thread Simon Cropper

Cameron,

On 30/04/11 08:20, Cameron Shorter wrote:

On the point of datasets, I'm open to incorporating a fine grained
dataset on OSGeo-Live, if it is going to be valuable to a number of
projects, and is suitably compact to fit on the OSGeo-Live DVD.


That's the communities choice.

My stance is simply that most people work with fine scale data, not 
broad scale data, and so have tailored my tutorials to demonstrate 
program use with what most people use.


As for size, if people did not want to include the data into the DVD, 
albeit the individual 5x5 kilometre sets only occupy between 19 - 69 MB, 
you can be easily downloaded a ZIP in less than 5 minutes.


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Re: [Live-demo] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Gvsig_english] New site demonstrating the use of Free Open Source Software

2011-04-29 Thread Simon Cropper

On 30/04/11 08:47, Hamish wrote:

you're in luck, for some years the North Carolina dataset has
been collected and made available by and for OSGeo projects
exactly for this purpose. I believe the main contact/coordination
for that is Helena and Markus via thegeodata@lists.osgeo  mailing
list. GRASS already uses the grass-ified version in its tutorials
and ships+uses that on the OSGeo Live DVD, see
   http://www.grassbook.org/data_menu3rd.php


Hamish,

My comment we now have some data was aimed from one Australian to 
another Australian.


I was aware of the North Carolina datasets when I ran my pilot. They are 
an excellent resource.


Personally however, they did not reflect the type of vector or raster 
data typically available in Australia and I was interested in getting 
local datasets in local CRS rather than one for the northern hemisphere. 
For example, it is impossible to demostrate transformations from AGD66 
to GDA94 using the North Carolina datasets.


My hidden agenda is to demonstrate that my typical work can be 
completed from start to finish using fosGIS. It is hard to discuss the 
nuances of datasets you don't usually use.


But lets face it, diversity is great, people now have a variety of 
resources to practice on. I have no problem with using the NC dataset in 
my tutorials, and will when the tasks being demonstrated call for data I 
currently don't have access.


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Re: [Live-demo] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Gvsig_english] New site demonstrating the use of Free Open Source Software

2011-04-29 Thread Helena Mitasova
Just to add to the discussion:

For introductory material a simpler, basic data set may be more useful than the 
rather complex nc_spm_08,
for example,  here is one in GRASS format (47MB)
http://grass.osgeo.org/sampledata/north_carolina/nc_basic_spm.tar.gz

I have prepared this data set because I thought that it would be useful
 to have a set of simple data sets for different regions with standardized 
names of data layers
so that we can use the same tutorial with data sets from different regions. 

So Simon, if you are going to create a data set for Australia to go with your 
tutorials, 
it would be great if you could use the same names as in our basic data set (or 
if you have a suggestion
for a different name, please let me know - at this stage it will be easy to 
change it on
our side). Then we can use your tutorial with our nc data set and students/users
in Australia can use our tutorials with your data set. We can have this for 
many countries
and many different software packages we just need to agree on the names for 
data layers.

There are certain tasks that are region specific, such as the coordinate 
systems,
but many tasks, from display to analysis, would be the same.

In the nc_basic I have used the following names (I will be happy to modify 
whatever is needed):

raster data:
basins elevation elevation_shade  geology lakes landuse soils

vector data
boundary_region/elev_points/geonames/   railroads/  
streams/
boundary_state/ firestations/   hospitals/ roadsmajor/  
   streets/
census/ geology/points_of_interest/schools/ 
   zipcodes/

We can provide the data set in other formats (similarly as we did for nc_spm_08)
and add additional type of data such as orthos or landsat.

There is a brief CLI tutorial available for GRASS with this data set
but I would like to prepare some screencaptures on Getting started GRASS with 
wxGUI
with this data during the upcoming GRASS community sprint in Prague
(where I can hopefully learn everything that I might have missed about the ne 
GUI  
and we can capture its proper use).

The larger data set nc_spm_08 is much more complex and goes with the GRASS book 
and
I am also using it for my course. I plan to release some additional, 
applications
oriented mapsets for this data set, but this all goes beyond the intro 
tutorials. 

So I very much agree with Simon that we need diversity in the data sets
both in terms of scale and geographic location, but it would be useful
to use standardized names to facilitate broader reuse of both the data sets and 
the tutorials.

Helena



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On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:55 PM, Simon Cropper wrote:

 On 30/04/11 08:47, Hamish wrote:
 you're in luck, for some years the North Carolina dataset has
 been collected and made available by and for OSGeo projects
 exactly for this purpose. I believe the main contact/coordination
 for that is Helena and Markus via thegeodata@lists.osgeo  mailing
 list. GRASS already uses the grass-ified version in its tutorials
 and ships+uses that on the OSGeo Live DVD, see
   http://www.grassbook.org/data_menu3rd.php
 
 Hamish,
 
 My comment we now have some data was aimed from one Australian to another 
 Australian.
 
 I was aware of the North Carolina datasets when I ran my pilot. They are an 
 excellent resource.
 
 Personally however, they did not reflect the type of vector or raster data 
 typically available in Australia and I was interested in getting local 
 datasets in local CRS rather than one for the northern hemisphere. For 
 example, it is impossible to demostrate transformations from AGD66 to GDA94 
 using the North Carolina datasets.
 
 My hidden agenda is to demonstrate that my typical work can be completed 
 from start to finish using fosGIS. It is hard to discuss the nuances of 
 datasets you don't usually use.
 
 But lets face it, diversity is great, people now have a variety of resources 
 to practice on. I have no problem with using the NC dataset in my tutorials, 
 and will when the tasks being demonstrated call for data I currently don't 
 have access.
 
 -- 
 Cheers Simon
 
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   Principal Consultant
   Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
   PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
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Re: [Live-demo] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Gvsig_english] New site demonstrating the use of Free Open Source Software

2011-04-29 Thread Simon Cropper

Helena,

Thanks for the comments. I have included some feedback regarding 
particular points below.


On 30/04/11 11:53, Helena Mitasova wrote:

I have prepared this data set because I thought that it would be useful
  to have a set of simple data sets for different regions with standardized 
names of data layers
so that we can use the same tutorial with data sets from different regions.


I understand the concept but if you did this you would need to 
standardise the field names also.



So Simon, if you are going to create a data set for Australia to go with your 
tutorials,
it would be great if you could use the same names as in our basic data set (or 
if you have a suggestion
for a different name, please let me know - at this stage it will be easy to 
change it on
our side).


I have already acquired some local data. You can see what is provided at 
http://gis.fossworkflowguides.com/#data.



Then we can use your tutorial with our nc data set and students/users
in Australia can use our tutorials with your data set. We can have this for 
many countries
and many different software packages we just need to agree on the names for 
data layers.


I can see the logic here. Standard file names. Standard attribute names. 
Various formats. Various regional datasets.


How do you propose to store different languages? This would 
intrinsically change both the file and field names.


When I considered localisation and translation of my tutorials, I though 
that most people would just recreate the images and rejig the text 
accordingly - using the existing file as a predominantly completed template.



There are certain tasks that are region specific, such as the coordinate 
systems,
but many tasks, from display to analysis, would be the same.


With this in mind, putting aside regional aspects, having one dataset 
that most people use in things like the LiveDVD provides for a 
consistent experience. My only issue here is the use of low resolution 
continent-wide data in the quickstarts and tutorials, when most people 
would be working at a regional or local level.


Regional aspects is an interesting issue that need further 
consideration. Apart from distinct CRS, local files have distinct 
names, fields of attribute tables have distinct names, data has varying 
accuracy and/or currency, etcetera. These variations make working with 
regional datasets unique and tutorials that demonstrate the use of 'raw' 
files -- as you would expect to get them if you went and purchased them 
from a regional authority -- valuable and enlightening.


With this in mind I must confess I am in two minds with trying to 
standardise all data. When considering creating a tutorial series I 
wanted to provide a resource for all people to use regardless of the 
country. In my mind this only required me to provide the data used to 
create the tutorials so others could repeat the steps -- which I did -- 
and ensure that colloquial terms are adequately explained.


Derivative creation is another issue intrinsically bound to this issue. 
Apart from slight variation in text (assuming you are not translating 
the document) all the images need to be redone to show the local data in 
context. If you are going to go through all this effort changing a few 
names is a minor issue. The way I have handled this in my tutorials is 
to tag file names and other elements with unique tags. This provides the 
ability to substitute elements of the HTML webpage based on a simple 
translation table and substitution routine. In theory, it would be a 
simple matter stating that when using this vector file the term altitude 
should be replaced with elevation.


My experience has show that the biggest impediment to derivative 
creation is the ability to disarticulate a tutorial, modify those 
elements that need changing and put it back together quickly -- as 
explained in detail on my website, this is why I fell back to HTML.


Ideally, we should have a Content Management System that stored 
educational material at high enough resolution to manage this 
disarticulation quickly and efficiently; but, alas one does not exist at 
present and it is necessary to hobble together an alternative.


So in summary, I can't see the value of modifying the current data I 
have to make a consistent dataset, as creation of a derivative using the 
North Carolina dataset will require recreation of the 30-40 images shown 
in a tutorial anyway, and a simple search-and-replace of a dataset name 
or field name would be a minor additional task.


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