Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into place. I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action. On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their primary address - interviews on the main blog - a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software development, management, documentation and what else In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives. Ciao steko BTW is there any process in place to remove charter members if they become inactive, move to another planet or are deemed unfit for the purpose by the community? __**_ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discusshttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss On 20/04/12 07:24, Cameron Shorter wrote: On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador function yet? I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo Ambassador role. Arnulf I think might have been the first to mention it, and I think it is an excellent idea. I'm also aware that the OGC are considering developing OGC ambassadors too. So I'd like to open the floor and see what people think an ambassador's role could involve, which leads into the qualities we would wish our ambassador's to have, which leads into the ways we may select an ambassador. Let me start by noting some of the driving factors: 1. Arnulf has noted that as OSGeo president, he has spent a significant amount of time on areoplanes travelling around the world to talk on behalf of OSGeo. He has
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member) but not much input after that. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone on the OSGeo board. See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html Venka On 2012/05/05 21:01, Margherita Di Leo wrote: Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into place. I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action. On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their primary address - interviews on the main blog - a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software development, management, documentation and what else In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives. Ciao steko BTW is there any process in place to remove charter members if they become inactive, move to another planet or are deemed unfit for the purpose by the community? __**_ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discusshttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss On 20/04/12 07:24, Cameron Shorter wrote: On 20/04/2012 4:06 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Do we have any policies and cost structures for the Ambassador function yet? I've seen a few people talking about creating an OSGeo Ambassador role. Arnulf I think might have been the first to mention it, and I think it is an excellent idea. I'm also aware that the OGC are considering
RE: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Venka: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) -mpg From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member) but not much input after that. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone on the OSGeo board. See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html Venka On 2012/05/05 21:01, Margherita Di Leo wrote: Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into place. I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action. On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used as their primary address - interviews on the main blog - a track record of their public activity wrt OSGeo promotion, software development, management, documentation and what else In this way the charter members could gain a higher visibility in the wider geospatial community and be recognised as official representatives. Ciao steko BTW is there any process in place to remove charter members if they become inactive, move to
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
As far as I’m aware, the original “Ambassador” concept came up during a board meeting, where it was intended to just address the question that the board very occasionally needs to send a board member, or someone equally prominent, to certain events we’d been invited to participate in. For purposes of discussion and assigning a budget to it, we just called it “being an ambassador”. This discussion seems to envision a wider, more general role, however. I’m very much in favor of having members act as ambassadors for the ideas of open source in the geo marketplace, but I’m not sure I understand yet the value of making this a formal function. It is already the case that members can – and do! – give talks and such all the time about open source and GIS; indeed, it is expected that active members, especially Charter Members, of the community would do so. I don’t see that OSGeo, as a formal body, should be in the position of limiting this function to certain people. Philosophically I’m against that, and practically I don’t see how we could anyway. We once brought up the idea of having a “speakers bureau”: a list of people who can speak to certain topics, much like the Service Providers Directory. Something like that I’d be in favor of… -mpg From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Margherita Di Leo Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:02 AM To: Cameron Shorter Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be responsible for overseeing the Ambassador wiki page, once the guidelines have been put into place. I welcome feedback from all, and call upon the board to make a final vote on whether this proposal (or a variant) should be put into action. On 21/04/12 20:47, Stefano Costa wrote: Il 21/04/2012 12:28, Jody Garnett ha scritto: I would hope that our charter members (who have been through a public nomination process in part for their involvement) are already acting in the capacity of Ambassador for OSGeo. I totally agree on this point. The fact that charter members only official role is to nominate new charter members and the Board is IMHO a weakness. Their role as OSGeo champions (and Ambassadors if there's consensus on that) should be emphasised. Quick ideas: - personal pages on osgeo.org (osgeo.org/members/johndoe) - @osgeo.org e-mail address (even an alias is fine) to be used
Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Michael, On 2012/05/05 23:58, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board? (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) About (2), why is it not desirable? Venka -mpg From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member) but not much input after that. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone on the OSGeo board. See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html Venka ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
I second Michael's sentiments. Use of terms such as distinguished and elite in the context of OSGeo community makes me extremely uncomfortable. On May 5, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board? Both. (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) About (2), why is it not desirable? The board is elected by the charter members to make policy. When the system was set up, it was not the intent that charter members had any role other than to preserve the nature and mission of the foundation by electing appropriate board members. Other than that, many of us did not want to create any sort of special status for members of the community: we wanted to be as open and inclusive as possible. To that end, we have a public board mailing list where issues can be raised and discussed by all, and the monthly board meetings are also held openly on #irc. -mpg -Original Message- From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 9:58 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; 'OSGeo-Board'; 'marketing' Subject: Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role Michael, On 2012/05/05 23:58, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board? (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) About (2), why is it not desirable? Venka -mpg From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member) but not much input after that. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone on the OSGeo board. See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html Venka ___ Board mailing list bo...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
Michael, I agree that we have expanded the Ambassador role to include what you have referred to as a Speakers bureau, which I think is a good thing. It is also opt-in; charter members need not register themselves if they don't want to. It is also deliberately non-exclusive, as any member of the greater OSGeo community should qualify as a user or developer of OSGeo Software. The board can still be exclusive in who they select to negotiate on behalf of the board. Eg: when OSGeo board wishes to send someone to negotiate a MOU or similar, they can specify that it be done by one of the more qualified Ambassadors - Eg: Board or Charter members. What we gain is a way for members to promote themselves, and a channel for conferences and the like to readily or more economically find a local OSGeo expert. On 06/05/12 01:07, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: As far as I’m aware, the original “Ambassador” concept came up during a board meeting, where it was intended to just address the question that the board very occasionally needs to send a board member, or someone equally prominent, to certain events we’d been invited to participate in. For purposes of discussion and assigning a budget to it, we just called it “being an ambassador”. This discussion seems to envision a wider, more general role, however. I’m very much in favor of having members act as ambassadors for the ideas of open source in the geo marketplace, but I’m not sure I understand yet the value of making this a formal function. It is already the case that members can – and do! – give talks and such all the time about open source and GIS; indeed, it is expected that active members, especially Charter Members, of the community would do so. I don’t see that OSGeo, as a formal body, should be in the position of limiting this function to certain people. Philosophically I’m against that, and practically I don’t see how we could anyway. We once brought up the idea of having a “speakers bureau”: a list of people who can speak to certain topics, much like the Service Providers Directory. Something like that I’d be in favor of… -mpg *From:*discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Margherita Di Leo *Sent:* Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:02 AM *To:* Cameron Shorter *Cc:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role Hi all, I support the ideas exposed by Cameron and Stefano. Particularly for what concerns charter members, as a charter member, I am aware that voting the boarding members is a strong responsibility, but I think we should have more responsibilities linked to our role. Personally, since I have been voted as a charter member, I have considered myself somehow an OSGeo ambassador, for example including the Foundation in my presentations, spreading out FOSS4G among the academy (students and colleagues) and professionals, organizing events and conferences, etc.. Also, I think it would be nice to have a dedicated wiki page and email address (or alias). Regards, madi On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: Following on from ideas from this previous email thread, and in particular picking up on Stefano's ideas, I'd like to make the following proposal: I suggest that we define an OSGeo Ambassador role very widely, but also have different levels of Ambassador - so that conference organisors can still feel like they are getting someone distinguished and pick someone exclusive. The OSGeo Ambassador categories would be: 1. OSGeo Board Member 2. Ex OSGeo Board Member These are the elite of the OSGeo community. We only have 8 active board members in the world, which have been peer selected based upon their outstanding leadership in the greater OSGeo community. 3. Charter member Charter membership is obtained through a strongly contested selective process. Members tend to be developers and leaders in one or more OSGeo projects, and/or OSGeo business leaders, and have a deep understanding in many of the OSGeo projects and principles of Open Source. 4. Voted position in an OSGeo community These people hold a position of responsibility within one of the OSGeo sub-communities. This may be a chair of an OSGeo Regional Chapter, or as a member of a project's Project Steering Committee. 5. OSGeo community member These people are actively involved in one or more OSGeo communities, acting as a developer, user or supporter of OSGeo software. Anyone fitting one of the above categories, may put themselves forward as an OSGeo Ambassador. Each ambassador would be expected to create a profile for themselves on an OSGeo Ambassador wiki page, which includes: * Name * City and Country of residence * Phone, Email * Photo * OSGeo relevant experience. (~150 words) I also propose that the OSGeo Marketing committee would be
