[OSGeo-Discuss] commenting trac tickets via mail
FYI, I've successfully setup integration from my mail agent (Mutt) and all of the OSGeo trac instances using Cartman. Detail are here: http://strk.keybit.net/blog/2015/11/11/trac-from-mutt/ The referenced script could be used to integrate to other mail agents. It's much easier to set such gateway locally than it would be to setup a mail-to-trac service on the OSGeo machines as it removes any need to implement an authentication method for incoming mails. Of course it's more work for users, who have to set things up themselves on each machine they read mails from, but it requires zero intervention from SAC. Shall you really want to be able to use trac via email and find this method too complicated, please make your voice heard (and time spent) here: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/897 Long live the OSGeo infrastructure ! --strk; ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] November/December 2016 Newsletter
I've got some time off from my day job this week and I'd like to do some work on a November/December 2015 Issue of the OSGeo Newsletter. I'd like to invite chapters, committees, and software projects to send me news and articles on there recent activities. I really appreciate any contributions. You can send content to me directly by e-mail (sunburned.surve...@gmail.com) or to the OSGeo Newsletter Mailing List. Thanks! Landon ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Live-demo] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM
This is not feasible on OSGeo hardware. The system, bandwidth, staff requirements are all well beyond what we have. Something like this would need to be outsourced to a cloud service provider. I'm not convinced this really works in general for any desktop applications without quite a lot more than average bandwidth. I don't even get great desktop performance between machines on my own campus over 1 GB networks. Not that I don't use remote desktops, but I don't try to do gui GIS or graphics software for more than minor things. I would recommend several universities that are part of the network and want to try this method, put forward a proposal that could be grant funded (FYI Amazon has such a program for prototyping on it's cloud by providing credits). What OSGeo SAC can offer is official accounts on various services for maintenance of official OSGeo-Live images for cloning by end users. End user pay-as-you-go is the only financially reasonable method for wide deployment. Obviously various workshop hosters can work out who actually pays for what. I would also consider that in addition to hosting full OSGeo-Live instances, we should create a system around something like Docker to allow people to deploy subsets for specific workshops (e.g. a web workshop with geoserver, postgis, and openlayers). Non-desktop applications would perform fine over distant connections using standard ports 22/80/443. These recipes, combined with official images in the popular services should make it easier for people to deploy classrooms worth of VMs for their needs. Thanks, Alex OSGeo Sys Admin Chair On 11/11/2015 10:28 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > Hi Suchith, > > Thanks for following up on this issue. > I propose we organize a joint OSGeo-Live, SAC meeting on IRC. > How about: > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015=11=13=21=0=0=26=179=240=137=37 > > > Best, > Angelos > > On 11/10/2015 01:20 PM, Suchith Anand wrote: >> Hi Angelos, >> >> May i suggest that you goahead and explore the option 1 that you >> suggested. As you are knowledgeable and have the expertise on this, >> please lead this and contact SAC to explore ideas/options to move >> these ideas forward. >> >> Thank you again for coming forward and volunteering your time and >> efforts for this. I believe this will be a big benefit for our >> education efforts and also the wider community in the future. Esp .for >> universities and education globally , there is definitely help in >> easily organising the practical/tutorial sessions . This will also >> help in our aim to get more universities start teaching using OSGeo >> software. Also it will be useful for those running OSGeo >> workshops/training at events (not just FOSS4G events) etc can make >> use of this service. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Suchith >> >> >> >> From: ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on >> behalf of Suchith Anand [suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk] >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 2:41 PM >> To: OSGeo Discussions; live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org >> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service >> that runs the OSGeo-Live VM >> >> Thanks Cameron, Angelos, Giuseppe , Peter and everyone who contributed >> to these discussions. I am ccing this to discuss list so that the >> wider community and users who want a cloud service can let their >> views known and how they would use and benefit from an OSGeo-Live >> cloud service. >> >> That way, we will get better idea if there is need/demand and a >> sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained >> with each OSGeo-Live release. >> >> All - please look though the ideas/inputs below that Cameron >> summarised for OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service based discussions >> we had so far in education and live lists. If you are able to >> contribute to this , please let us all know. Thanks. >> >> Suchith >> >> >> From: ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on >> behalf of Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kal...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:01 PM >> To: live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org >> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service >> that runs the OSGeo-Live VM >> >> I realize that my previous e-mail was not received by the list so I >> summarize: >> >> 1. OSGeo-Live is already cloud-ready on Synnefo stack >> http://www.synnefo.org/ >> So basically we could deploy synnefo + geneti on OSGeo infrastructure >> and have a Free Software solution. >> Alternatively we could deploy an OpenStack instance. >> https://www.openstack.org/software/ >> We should ask SAC if the above options are feasible. >> >> 2. In case we want to deploy OSGeo-Live on AWS, it seems straightforward: >> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html >> >> https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/ >> >> Any other options in
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM
Hi Suchith, Thanks for following up on this issue. I propose we organize a joint OSGeo-Live, SAC meeting on IRC. How about: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015=11=13=21=0=0=26=179=240=137=37 Best, Angelos On 11/10/2015 01:20 PM, Suchith Anand wrote: Hi Angelos, May i suggest that you goahead and explore the option 1 that you suggested. As you are knowledgeable and have the expertise on this, please lead this and contact SAC to explore ideas/options to move these ideas forward. Thank you again for coming forward and volunteering your time and efforts for this. I believe this will be a big benefit for our education efforts and also the wider community in the future. Esp .for universities and education globally , there is definitely help in easily organising the practical/tutorial sessions . This will also help in our aim to get more universities start teaching using OSGeo software. Also it will be useful for those running OSGeo workshops/training at events (not just FOSS4G events) etc can make use of this service. Best wishes, Suchith From: ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Suchith Anand [suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 2:41 PM To: OSGeo Discussions; live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM Thanks Cameron, Angelos, Giuseppe , Peter and everyone who contributed to these discussions. I am ccing this to discuss list so that the wider community and users who want a cloud service can let their views known and how they would use and benefit from an OSGeo-Live cloud service. That way, we will get better idea if there is need/demand and a sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each OSGeo-Live release. All - please look though the ideas/inputs below that Cameron summarised for OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service based discussions we had so far in education and live lists. If you are able to contribute to this , please let us all know. Thanks. Suchith From: ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kal...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:01 PM To: live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM I realize that my previous e-mail was not received by the list so I summarize: 1. OSGeo-Live is already cloud-ready on Synnefo stack http://www.synnefo.org/ So basically we could deploy synnefo + geneti on OSGeo infrastructure and have a Free Software solution. Alternatively we could deploy an OpenStack instance. https://www.openstack.org/software/ We should ask SAC if the above options are feasible. 2. In case we want to deploy OSGeo-Live on AWS, it seems straightforward: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/ Any other options in mind? Best, Angelos On 10/18/2015 01:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Bringing a few different email threads back to one, and answering Suchith's "next steps" question: On 16/10/2015 12:43 am, Suchith Anand wrote: Cameron - from your experiences with OSGeo live community, what do you think is the best way now forward ? Can you please summarise all discussions so far and reply to the public lists.Thanks. Suchith If we are to be successful at setting up an OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service, I suggest we consider: 1. Would a cloud service be used? By who? I'd suggest that people who want a cloud service speak up, say how you would use an OSGeo-Live cloud service. We are looking here to determine if there is a sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each OSGeo-Live release. 2. What are the steps technically required to set up the cloud service? Hopefully someone will step up to do the research on what is required, and will set up a Proof-of-Concept. 3. What will hosting a cloud service cost? Would it be a pay-as-you-use model? Would we be asking the OSGeo Foundation to sponsor? Would we be asking workshop providers to pay for the service? I suspect that we could ask the OSGeo Foundation for base funding to prove a Proof of Concept (by paying for a cloud service for 1 year or so), but ask workshop providers and other users to pay for the service in moving forward. This is something that can be decided once costs are understood. 4. But the bottom line is that the best chance of success will occur if someone stands up and champions its development. Do we have someone interested to do the hard work of making it happen? (Speak up if interested). It certainly would be a valuable contribution to the OSGeo community. Warm regards, Cameron On 14/10/2015 7:59 pm, Peter Baumann
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM
Hi Angelos, Thanks for this. We will meet in IRC at the time you suggested to discuss with all interested from OSGeo-Live and SAC. Talk details then. Best wishes, Suchith From: Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kal...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:28 PM To: Suchith Anand; OSGeo Discussions; live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM Hi Suchith, Thanks for following up on this issue. I propose we organize a joint OSGeo-Live, SAC meeting on IRC. How about: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015=11=13=21=0=0=26=179=240=137=37 Best, Angelos On 11/10/2015 01:20 PM, Suchith Anand wrote: > Hi Angelos, > > May i suggest that you goahead and explore the option 1 that you suggested. > As you are knowledgeable and have the expertise on this, please lead this > and contact SAC to explore ideas/options to move these ideas forward. > > Thank you again for coming forward and volunteering your time and efforts for > this. I believe this will be a big benefit for our education efforts and also > the wider community in the future. Esp .for universities and education > globally , there is definitely help in easily organising the > practical/tutorial sessions . This will also help in our aim to get more > universities start teaching using OSGeo software. Also it will be useful for > those running OSGeo workshops/training at events (not just FOSS4G events) > etc can make use of this service. > > Best wishes, > > Suchith > > > > From: ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of > Suchith Anand [suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk] > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 2:41 PM > To: OSGeo Discussions; live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org > Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that > runs the OSGeo-Live VM > > Thanks Cameron, Angelos, Giuseppe , Peter and everyone who contributed to > these discussions. I am ccing this to discuss list so that the wider > community and users who want a cloud service can let their views known and > how they would use and benefit from an OSGeo-Live cloud service. > > That way, we will get better idea if there is need/demand and a sustaining > community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each > OSGeo-Live release. > > All - please look though the ideas/inputs below that Cameron summarised for > OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service based discussions we had so far in > education and live lists. If you are able to contribute to this , please let > us all know. Thanks. > > Suchith > > > From: ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of > Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kal...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:01 PM > To: live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org > Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that > runs the OSGeo-Live VM > > I realize that my previous e-mail was not received by the list so I summarize: > > 1. OSGeo-Live is already cloud-ready on Synnefo stack > http://www.synnefo.org/ > So basically we could deploy synnefo + geneti on OSGeo infrastructure and > have a Free Software solution. > Alternatively we could deploy an OpenStack instance. > https://www.openstack.org/software/ > We should ask SAC if the above options are feasible. > > 2. In case we want to deploy OSGeo-Live on AWS, it seems straightforward: > http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html > https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/ > > Any other options in mind? > > Best, > Angelos > > > On 10/18/2015 01:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > Bringing a few different email threads back to one, and answering Suchith's > "next steps" question: > > On 16/10/2015 12:43 am, Suchith Anand wrote: > Cameron - from your experiences with OSGeo live community, what do you think > is the best way now forward ? Can you please summarise all discussions so far > and reply to the public lists.Thanks. > > Suchith > If we are to be successful at setting up an OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud > service, I suggest we consider: > > 1. Would a cloud service be used? By who? > I'd suggest that people who want a cloud service speak up, say how you would > use an OSGeo-Live cloud service. We are looking here to determine if there is > a sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained with > each OSGeo-Live release. > > 2. What are the steps technically required to set up the cloud service? > Hopefully someone will step up to do the research on what is required, and > will set up a Proof-of-Concept. > > 3. What will hosting a cloud service cost? Would it be a pay-as-you-use > model? Would we be asking the OSGeo Foundation to sponsor? Would we be asking > workshop providers to pay for the service? >
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM
Forgot to mention meeting place: #osgeo channel on Freenode. On 11/11/2015 10:02 PM, Suchith Anand wrote: Hi Angelos, Thanks for this. We will meet in IRC at the time you suggested to discuss with all interested from OSGeo-Live and SAC. Talk details then. Best wishes, Suchith From: Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kal...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:28 PM To: Suchith Anand; OSGeo Discussions; live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM Hi Suchith, Thanks for following up on this issue. I propose we organize a joint OSGeo-Live, SAC meeting on IRC. How about: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2015=11=13=21=0=0=26=179=240=137=37 Best, Angelos On 11/10/2015 01:20 PM, Suchith Anand wrote: Hi Angelos, May i suggest that you goahead and explore the option 1 that you suggested. As you are knowledgeable and have the expertise on this, please lead this and contact SAC to explore ideas/options to move these ideas forward. Thank you again for coming forward and volunteering your time and efforts for this. I believe this will be a big benefit for our education efforts and also the wider community in the future. Esp .for universities and education globally , there is definitely help in easily organising the practical/tutorial sessions . This will also help in our aim to get more universities start teaching using OSGeo software. Also it will be useful for those running OSGeo workshops/training at events (not just FOSS4G events) etc can make use of this service. Best wishes, Suchith From: ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Suchith Anand [suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 2:41 PM To: OSGeo Discussions; live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM Thanks Cameron, Angelos, Giuseppe , Peter and everyone who contributed to these discussions. I am ccing this to discuss list so that the wider community and users who want a cloud service can let their views known and how they would use and benefit from an OSGeo-Live cloud service. That way, we will get better idea if there is need/demand and a sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each OSGeo-Live release. All - please look though the ideas/inputs below that Cameron summarised for OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service based discussions we had so far in education and live lists. If you are able to contribute to this , please let us all know. Thanks. Suchith From: ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kal...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:01 PM To: live-demo; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM I realize that my previous e-mail was not received by the list so I summarize: 1. OSGeo-Live is already cloud-ready on Synnefo stack http://www.synnefo.org/ So basically we could deploy synnefo + geneti on OSGeo infrastructure and have a Free Software solution. Alternatively we could deploy an OpenStack instance. https://www.openstack.org/software/ We should ask SAC if the above options are feasible. 2. In case we want to deploy OSGeo-Live on AWS, it seems straightforward: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/ Any other options in mind? Best, Angelos On 10/18/2015 01:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Bringing a few different email threads back to one, and answering Suchith's "next steps" question: On 16/10/2015 12:43 am, Suchith Anand wrote: Cameron - from your experiences with OSGeo live community, what do you think is the best way now forward ? Can you please summarise all discussions so far and reply to the public lists.Thanks. Suchith If we are to be successful at setting up an OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service, I suggest we consider: 1. Would a cloud service be used? By who? I'd suggest that people who want a cloud service speak up, say how you would use an OSGeo-Live cloud service. We are looking here to determine if there is a sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each OSGeo-Live release. 2. What are the steps technically required to set up the cloud service? Hopefully someone will step up to do the research on what is required, and will set up a Proof-of-Concept. 3. What will hosting a cloud service cost? Would it be a pay-as-you-use model? Would we be asking the OSGeo Foundation to sponsor? Would we be asking workshop providers to pay for the service? I suspect that we could ask the OSGeo Foundation for base
