Hi all,
Maybe my choice of words and ordering are wrong so I am rewording
FACT: We do not have nabble anymore.
We are ready to use discourse for the mailing lists,
* Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list,
* keep working as always
* Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list
* Example: pgRouting has a private category for the PSC
* Have a mirror of the mailing list in discourse
* Currently read only
* Its a mirror then keep working as always
* With proper configuration It can be seen in mastodon
* Example: pgRouting has a mirror of pgrouting-dev and pgrouting-users
* Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse
* It moved, so the group will work using discourse
* The archives will be kept.
* the list will be disabled
* Example: QGIS-users-fr
We are providing options.
Regards
Vicky
On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 4:52 PM Bruce Bannerman <
bruce.bannerman.os...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apart from these few emails telling me that a move to something called
> Discourse is happening, I have not seen any discussion on our lists
> explaining the pros and cons of such a move.
>
> I find this lack of community engagement on this issue to be troubling.
>
> This does not seem to be a very open source community way of making such a
> significant move.
>
> Personally, what we have now has been working nicely for me for close on
> 20 years.
>
> The lists have been very quiet for quite a while now, but that is a
> community engagement issue. It is not something that technology will
> magically fix.
>
> It seems to me that we have a case of the tail wagging the dog.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On 29 Dec 2023, at 05:15, Jody Garnett via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
>
> Reading online it appears there is:
>
> 1. A mailing list mode so notifications are sent out each time a post is
> made (this is a user preference)
>
> 2. A reply via email mode
>
> So experimentation is needed.
>
> Reference:
> -
> https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8
> -
> https://meta.discourse.org/t/set-up-reply-by-email-with-pop3-polling/14003
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 10:09 AM Jody Garnett
> wrote:
>
>> I think we need someone who understand how discourse works to make an
>> informed decision.
>>
>> If the forum fills up with questions; and the developers are minding the
>> email list - it will not work out so well :) At least as described.
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Vicky Vergara wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 11:43 AM Jody Garnett
>>> wrote:
>>>
Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to
nabble used to? Is searchable etc …
I don't know the details of how discourse works,
>>>
>>>
But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers
- so it is one way communication.
>>> https://meta.discourse.org/t/create-a-read-only-mailing-list-mirror/77990
>>>
>>>
And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want
to ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and
getting yet more email).
>>> Yes, so you can have the mirror in one category and another catergory
>>> for Q&A
>>>
--
Jody Garnett
On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara
wrote:
> Hi Jody
>
> We are offering options
>
> Before:
> Use mailing list
>
> After:
> * Use mailing list and see the archives only on
> https://lists.osgeo.org/
> * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse
> * Use discourse without a mailing list
>
>
> This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list
> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1]
> (Use discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from
> mailing list)
> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing
> list and see the archives also on discourse)
> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3]
> was created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list)
> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use
> mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/)
>
> [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
> [2] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13
> [3]
> https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1
> [4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/
>
> Regards
> Vicky
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett
> wrote:
>
>> I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo
>> sign up form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what
>> is
>> being offered.
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On