[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal archiving and dormancy

[Eli Adam via Discuss]

Hi all,

Over the years the Journal has been both an OSGeo newsletter of activity and a 
publication of peer reviewed articles.  The OSGeo Journal has not been 
indexed*.  The OSGeo Journal has been dormant for many years.  The previous 
effort and interest that brought it to fruition seems to have dwindled.  
Probably the best representation of the Journal is this archive page:  
https://web.archive.org/web/20191227055543/http://journal.osgeo.org/index.php/journal.
There are various web pages, wiki pages, SVN repos, and other project-related 
matters that are outdated. Part of responsibly winding down the effort would be 
putting notes there that the Journal is no longer active.

Over on the Journal email list, 
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/newsletter/2024-February/thread.html, we are 
discussing archiving the project and responsibly putting it into dormancy.  
Part of that effort is to see if there is interest or another home for the 
Journal.  If there is interest and volunteers to restart/continue/rehome the 
Journal, please join that discussion over on the Journal list.  Efforts are 
also being undertaken to see if there is interest in GeoForAll to rehome the 
Journal there.  After a short waiting period, some of us previously involved 
(and new volunteers more familiar with Zenodo) will make our best effort to 
archive and responsibly put the Journal into dormancy.

As far as the newsletter of activity function, that seems to be filled by the 
Annual Report and some other more subject specific efforts.  OSGeo/FOSS4G 
articles are published in a variety of other indexed journals so perhaps there 
is not a need for an OSGeo specific Journal of peer reviewed articles.

Best regards, Eli


*Some volumes of the OSGeo Journal were published in other indexed journals as 
FOSS4G topic guest editions but generally the OSGeo Journal is not indexed.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Conference resources working group

[Eli Adam via Discuss]

Hi Luca and all,

That sounds like a great idea!

Best regards, Eli

From: Discuss  on behalf of Astrid Emde 
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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Conference resources working group

Hello Luca, hello all,

thanks Luca for the idea. I support it strongly. We have such a
structure for the FOSSGIS conference too and it helps a lot.

I added my name to the page and I am happy to support FOSS4Gs.

See you Astrid

Am 29.08.2022 07:33 schrieb Luca Delucchi:
> Dear Conference committee, OSGeo friends;
>
> working on the FOSS4G and SotM 2022 organization I was able to see two
> different types of organization for the two conferences. I really like
> the idea of having a working group helping the LOC team that OSM
> foundation has, this helps a lot to simplify the work of LOC.
> So in these days I spoke with some people about my idea to create a
> working group in helping the different LOCs to have a successful
> FOSS4G (mainly the international one but it could also be done with
> regional if needed, for example setting up or helping with pretalx).
> Most of the people I spoke with really liked the idea so I added it to
> the board meeting and all the members supported the idea. I already
> found some people interested in being part of this working group.
>
> This new group is not a replacement of the Conference Committee
> because they have two different purposes:
> - the Conference Committee has to put out the bid and choose the best
> candidate
> - the Conference resources (final name has to be decided but this is a
> good proposal of Michael) has to help the chosen candidate to set up a
> good FOSS4G and simplify the work and it is a operative entity
>
> I started a wiki page [0] and I'll be working on that in the next
> weeks, if you are interested to be part of and support this working
> group please add your name.
>
> I would like to have the first meeting by the end of September, after
> having a call with FOSS4G 2023 team.
>
> [0] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Resources
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023 (extended deadline)

[Eli Adam via Discuss]

Letters of intent are due March 21.

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2023_Bid_Process

Merry mapping, Eli

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 2:43 PM Vasile Craciunescu 
wrote:

> Dear OSGeo/FOSS4G Community,
>
> The deadline for proposals to host our beloved global conference was
> extended. Please take a look at the information package and, *please*, dare
> to bid! It's very very important for our community.
>
>
> May the FOSS4G be with everyone,
>
> Vasile & Msilikale, on behalf of OSGeo's Conference Committee
>
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2023_Bid_Process
>
> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Poll: Change FOSS4G structure to have some continuity of organization and management

[Eli Adam via Discuss]

Hi Maxi and all,


On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 7:15 AM Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:

> Dear conference community,
> why is the community left out from this decision / discussion?
>

All are free to discuss and have been for years.


>
> The FOSS4G conference is a property of OSGeo, and therefore of the
> community as a whole.
> The conference committee has not been elected so cannot decide in
> representation of the community.
>

The Conference Committee was created by the Board (which is elected) and
operates under authority delegated by the Board.  The Board is free to
change or revoke that authority and to even dissolve the committee.  This
is more or less how all OSGeo committees and projects operate.


>
> As an OPEN community I strongly believe that all the charter members (at
> least) should have a word or vote on such an important decision.
>

We don't vote on which features get developed on our favorite projects or
which pull requests get accepted.  Projects have operating procedures for
those matters and committees operate much the same way.  If you want to
change this structure, it would probably start at the Board.

Best regards, Eli


>
> I hope this message is not ignored..
>
> Maxi
>
>
>
> Il giorno gio 3 feb 2022 alle ore 15:04 Eli Adam 
> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi all (particularly voting committee members),
>>
>> The current FOSS4G structure has a new LOC every year starting more or
>> less from scratch (some things like mailing lists and seed money are passed
>> on).  Over the years, many people have commented on the load of work this
>> creates for the LOC, the general inefficiency, the risk, and the burnout.
>>
>> If you consider yourself a voting member of the committee (
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee#Current_Members),
>> please indicate your preference on this.
>>
>> This is an informal poll to see if the conference committee wants to:
>> 1. Keep it the way it is and not change anything
>> 2. Change the FOSS4G organizing structure to something else (discussion
>> of what we change it to can come later if people want to pursue this).
>>
>> As I've expressed several times, I prefer option 2, changing the FOSS4G
>> organizing structure.
>>
>> Thanks for your time and participation.
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G for cartography production

[Eli Adam]

Hi Sergio,

Adam recommends a good method for post processing maps.  Before going
to post processing, it is worth trying to get the results you want
within QGIS.  There have been some major labeling improvements and
overhauls over the years giving QGIS some powerful labeling options.
Here are a few links with some information on that:
https://nyalldawson.net/tag/labelling/
http://planet.qgis.org/planet/tag/labels/ (which gives a cloudflare
message but this seems to work:
https://web.archive.org/web/20191202202601/http://planet.qgis.org/planet/tag/labels/
https://web.archive.org/web/20191202201049/http://planet.qgis.org/planet/tag/labeling/

The visual changelog labeling category and going through the various
versions might give some ideas too:
https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/visualchangelog314/index.html#labelling

If you're using QGIS, writing the QGIS user list is more likely to get
detailed responses (from experienced users and developers) than the
discuss list:
https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html

Best regards, Eli


On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:03 PM Adam Steer  wrote:
>
> Hi Sergio
>
> Look at inkscape as a post-QGIS labelling and map tweaking system if you need 
> vector work and typography: https://inkscape.org/
>
> GIMP is for image processing grunt (like Adobe photoshop): 
> https://www.gimp.org
>
> Both are excellent tools for professional print production.
>
> Searching 'QGIS and inkscape' there are many tutorials :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Adam
>
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 02:04, SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi. Where I work we need to find an open alternative to ArcGIS in order to 
>> produce maps for printing. We were trying with QGIS but we have problems 
>> with labeling linear elements. Is there anyone in the list that has 
>> experience with preparing maps for printing with open source software? Does 
>> anybody know what is the best FOSS4G for doing this? Tutorials?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Sergio Acosta y Lara
>> Departamento de Geomática
>> Dirección Nacional de Topografía
>> Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

Hi Vasile,



On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Vasile Craciunescu
 wrote:
> Dear Eli,
>
> I appreciate your concerns related to OSGeo board elections. However, I have
> a few points to make. This year we had 2 CRO people, not just one. In your
> message on this topic you always make it sound like the CRO ended up in a
> conflict position and this is not entirely true. Actually, during the board

Correct, only Jeff in his role as CRO was a conflict of interest and
(in my opinion) violation of the procedure.  If you were not also a
CRO, then this truly would have been a governance crisis and lack any
shred of legitimacy.  It looks like you noted that you were a good
selection as your term runs for another year.  CROs used to always be
board members with another year remaining on their term thus making
nomination of the CRO impossible.

You've done a great job Vasile and none of your actions or work are
clouded by conflict of interest or violation of procedure.

> meeting when the CRO position was decided I was the one stepping up for this
> role. During that meeting Jeff was invited to manage this year Sol Katz
> award so he was also present. Next topic item was the CRO, the moment when
> Jeff offered his help for CRO, as he did in most of the previous years. The
> log is available at [1]. The board motion was to have two CRO for elections.
> And Jeff did an wonderful job during the new charter members nomination
> process. Then, Jeff stepped down immediately after his nomination for the
> board members elections. He never had access to the electronic voting system
> (that was setup a week later) and his access to c...@osgeo.org email was
> cutoff a few hours later. Personally I share your position that a CRO should
> not be in the situation to be nominated for a position in the elections that

One way to handle that would have been to not accept the nomination
since it did not follow procedure of where to send the nomination and
it was also a nomination of (one of) the CROs which is an additional
violation of procedure.  The Board also could have prevented this
possibility by not appointing a CRO who was able to accept a
nomination.

As you know, the CRO is a position of much work and responsibility and
also privy to lots of information that comes through to the CRO email
alias (you for instance know people who may have been nominated and
declined the nomination).  Being in that position in any portion of
the election process is more than enough to disqualify someone in my
opinion.

> he/she is managing. However, in this case, OSGeo had the position covered
> and the changes were done transparently. I know for a fact that Jeff din not
> think about a nomination when offered his help. It happen and he resign from
> his position to remove the conflict. At that moment I have asked Jorge for
> help for technical problems (not as co-CRO as this should require board
> acceptance and the time was short). All this elections discussions, starting
> with Jeff resignation, were performed through CRO email alias and I can make
> that public if any concerns regarding the impartiality/transparency of the
> elections are raised by you or by anyone else.
>
> Best,
> Vasile
> CRO 2017

In any case Vasile, you've done a great amount of work and continue to
do a good job.  It is clear that the Board sees this as a non-issue in
which case they've done their job.  We elect the Board to act (or not
act) on these issues and we have to live with the Board's actions (or
inactions).  In my opinion, it is not a legitimate election and such
loss of the rule of law in OSGeo could lead to trouble eventually.

Thanks for all your tireless work in this job.

Sorry to everyone on this list having to listen to yet another thread.
Hopefully we can return to our mostly productive work in the various
realms of OSGeo.

Best regards, Eli

>
>
> [1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2017-04-12.log
>
>
>
> On 10/18/17 10:15 PM, Eli Adam wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I
>>> have
>>> been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and
>>> hopefully
>>> attending the next board meeting.
>>>
>>
>> I thought that this issue might have been of enough concern for the
>> Board to deliberate it.  Indeed, I thought that Venka's earlier
>> comment was an indication that that might happen.
>>
>>
>>> I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot thank
>>> the
>>> cro enough for keeping up.
>>>
>>
>> CRO is a very large and difficult job.  Yes, great thanks to the CROs.
>>
>>> I trust the nex

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Michael Smith
 wrote:
> Frankly, as a current board member, from what I’ve seen, everything was
> properly followed. As soon as he was nominated, Jeff stepped down as co CRO.
> It was all above board and transparent.
>

So then perhaps I'm correct in concluding, in the absence of any Board
action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination, I am left
to conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board.

In my opinion, it would be worth the Board deliberating and taking a
position.  This goes back to my initial comment:

I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.

In my evaluation, the person offering the nomination failed in that
they not only did not follow the process but also nominated the CRO.
The CRO failed in that they accepted the position of CRO while there
was a possibility that they would run.  The CRO also failed in that
they then accepted a nomination.  And really it is the Board's failure
in my opinion:

It is really the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that
this situation doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who
might accept a nomination and people who might accept a nomination
should not accept appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the
tradition of the CRO being a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term. CRO is a difficult job and much credit to
those who do it.

But these are just my opinions.  But I think that I am now correct in
concluding, in the absence of any Board action on the legitimacy of
the CRO accepting a nomination, this issue is of no concern to the
Board.

Best regards, Eli


> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:19 PM, Jody Garnett  wrote:
>
> Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I have
> been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and hopefully
> attending the next board meeting.
>
> I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot thank the
> cro enough for keeping up.
>
> I trust the next board meeting will provide an update from the cro and an
> opportunity for discussion. The board is in a strange situation during
> elections, handing over control of the process to the CRO, and with 1/2 the
> participants at the end of their term. If you track the most recent board
> meetings several items have been deferred to the next board, so I understand
> the board not feeling able to deliberate in the middle of elections.
>
> It is also important to trust the CRO to act in good faith on behalf of our
> organization. I did speak up when I was concerned that member list had not
> been updated and would interfere in the CRO performing their task - but that
> was it.
>
> This is a hard lesson to learn, when to deliberate and when to encourage.
> Many of the deliberations about foss4g affordability were left until the
> Boston F2F meeting, to avoid distracting from the excellent work being done
> by the BLOC. If if well intentioned, deliberating during the course of an
> activity can distract contributors and bring out feelings of "why bother". I
> think this was the bickering referenced during the candidates debate
> yesterday.
>
> Finally as a candidate in this election I could not see a clear way to
> deliberate the current election that would not be viewed as a personal
> attack, or dismissed as campaigning.
>
>
> --
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>
> On 18 October 2017 at 10:23, Eli Adam  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
>> > HI Eli,
>> >
>> > If I recall correctly, we answered you that Jeff immediately resigned
>> > from
>> > his position as CRO and he has not been involved at all in any Board
>> > elections CRO activity so everything is correctly handled except (and we
>> > apologized for that) the lack of a Trac ticket for the alias change.
>>
>> Thanks Jorge.  I know those are the events that happened, however, I
>> never saw the Board deliberate and consider whether that is acceptable
>> or not.  In my opinion, it is not, however I'm not on the Board, nor
>> is one Director's opinion a position of the Board.  In the absence of
>> any Board action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
>> I was left to conclude "that this issue is of no concern to the
>> Board."
>>
>> Has the Board deliberated or considered this?  Did they take a position?
>>
>> The reason to have a process and follow it even when you maybe don't
>>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett  wrote:
> Eli the board did not deliberate, you can see the board email list. I have
> been glad for individual such as yourself caring, speaking up, and hopefully
> attending the next board meeting.
>

I thought that this issue might have been of enough concern for the
Board to deliberate it.  Indeed, I thought that Venka's earlier
comment was an indication that that might happen.


> I think we have all learned a lot this election period, and cannot thank the
> cro enough for keeping up.
>

CRO is a very large and difficult job.  Yes, great thanks to the CROs.

> I trust the next board meeting will provide an update from the cro and an
> opportunity for discussion. The board is in a strange situation during
> elections, handing over control of the process to the CRO, and with 1/2 the
> participants at the end of their term. If you track the most recent board
> meetings several items have been deferred to the next board, so I understand
> the board not feeling able to deliberate in the middle of elections.
>

Yes, the Board appoints the CRO(s) to run the elections for them.
While the Board can defer some things to future Boards (especially
future looking things), the Board is responsible for anything that
arises while they are on duty.

> It is also important to trust the CRO to act in good faith on behalf of our
> organization. I did speak up when I was concerned that member list had not
> been updated and would interfere in the CRO performing their task - but that
> was it.
>

I largely believe that once a task is delegated, that person has the
latitude to act.  In this case, I would have thought it was worth
deliberation and consultation with the CRO on how they want to run
elections that don't go exactly following the process.

> This is a hard lesson to learn, when to deliberate and when to encourage.
> Many of the deliberations about foss4g affordability were left until the
> Boston F2F meeting, to avoid distracting from the excellent work being done
> by the BLOC. If if well intentioned, deliberating during the course of an
> activity can distract contributors and bring out feelings of "why bother". I
> think this was the bickering referenced during the candidates debate
> yesterday.
>
> Finally as a candidate in this election I could not see a clear way to
> deliberate the current election that would not be viewed as a personal
> attack, or dismissed as campaigning.
>

This seems rather straight forward.  For the Board to deliberate this
manner fairly, directors like you who are running for reelection would
be obligated to show up for quorum and abstain from discussion and
voting.  The issue would be decided by the portion of the Board with
their term running until 2018 and those who are not running for
reelection.  But yes, I do see how you personally would be hampered
from really engaging this topic.

Best regards, Eli

>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 18 October 2017 at 10:23, Eli Adam  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
>> > HI Eli,
>> >
>> > If I recall correctly, we answered you that Jeff immediately resigned
>> > from
>> > his position as CRO and he has not been involved at all in any Board
>> > elections CRO activity so everything is correctly handled except (and we
>> > apologized for that) the lack of a Trac ticket for the alias change.
>>
>> Thanks Jorge.  I know those are the events that happened, however, I
>> never saw the Board deliberate and consider whether that is acceptable
>> or not.  In my opinion, it is not, however I'm not on the Board, nor
>> is one Director's opinion a position of the Board.  In the absence of
>> any Board action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
>> I was left to conclude "that this issue is of no concern to the
>> Board."
>>
>> Has the Board deliberated or considered this?  Did they take a position?
>>
>> The reason to have a process and follow it even when you maybe don't
>> "need" it, is so that you also follow the process when you *do* need
>> it.
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>> >
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 18 October 2017 at 18:07, Eli Adam  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Venka, all,
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Eli Adam 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Venka,
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Eli,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> First of al

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
> HI Eli,
>
> If I recall correctly, we answered you that Jeff immediately resigned from
> his position as CRO and he has not been involved at all in any Board
> elections CRO activity so everything is correctly handled except (and we
> apologized for that) the lack of a Trac ticket for the alias change.

Thanks Jorge.  I know those are the events that happened, however, I
never saw the Board deliberate and consider whether that is acceptable
or not.  In my opinion, it is not, however I'm not on the Board, nor
is one Director's opinion a position of the Board.  In the absence of
any Board action on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
I was left to conclude "that this issue is of no concern to the
Board."

Has the Board deliberated or considered this?  Did they take a position?

The reason to have a process and follow it even when you maybe don't
"need" it, is so that you also follow the process when you *do* need
it.

Best regards, Eli

>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> On 18 October 2017 at 18:07, Eli Adam  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Venka, all,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Eli Adam  wrote:
>> > Hi Venka,
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Hi Eli,
>> >>
>> >> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
>> >> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.
>> >
>> > Yes, thanks Jorge.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
>> >>
>> >> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> >> their last meeting,
>> >> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> >> of no concern to the Board.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did
>> >> not
>> >> arise
>> >> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.
>> >
>> > Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
>> > that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
>> > suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
>> > unknown.
>>
>> It appears that voting has now started and I don't see any Board
>> threads on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/thread.html
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
>> >> process.
>> >
>> > Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
>> > making noise and allow the proper process to work.
>> >
>>
>> Should I now conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board?
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>>
>> > Best regards, Eli
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Best
>> >>
>> >> Venka
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Eli,
>> >>
>> >> I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
>> >>
>> >> I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and
>> >> me.
>> >> --
>> >> Jorge Sanz
>> >> https://jorgesanz.net
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos
>> >>
>> >> El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Eli,
>> >> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
>> >>
>> >> co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
>> >>
>> >> I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
>> >> for pointing it out to me.
>> >>
>> >> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
>> >>
>> >> he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
>> >>
>> >> Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
>> >> for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
>> >> proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections time

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Vasile Craciunescu
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Based on the feedback received from two of our members (thank you Dimitris
> and Gert-Jan), I did a small change in the voting system. The change is on
> the number of votes than one can cast. The initial system was maximum 5,
> minimum 5, which does not make sense if you want to abstain on more than 5
> nominations (the rule was inherit from the survey template used last year).
> Also, according to our process rules  "You can cast up to 5 votes, for 5
> different people." [1]. Now, before making this change, 35 people already

Probably leave it until next year, but [1] is in error; it does not
need to be for *different* people.  The bylaws
http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html [2]
provide:

Section 8.9. Voting. Each member (except emeritus members) shall be
entitled to one vote on each matter submitted to a vote at a meeting
of the members, except in the case of election of directors or as may
otherwise be provided in the General Corporation Law of the State of
Delaware. If a quorum is present, the affirmative vote of a majority
of the members represented at the meeting and entitled to vote on the
subject matter shall be the act of the members, unless the vote of a
greater number is required by the General Corporation Law of the State
of Delaware or by the Certificate of Incorporation or by these Bylaws.

In connection with the election of Directors, each member (except
emeritus members) shall be entitled to one vote for each vacancy on
the Board of Directors to be filled. Members of the Board of Directors
shall be elected by the affirmative vote of a plurality of the votes
of the members present in person or proxy, including through remote
communication, at the meeting and entitled to vote on the election of
the Board of Directors. Each member entitled to vote in an election of
Directors may cumulate his or her votes by distributing among one or
more candidates as many votes as are equal to the number of Director
vacancies to be filled in the election.

Andy also raised some good ideas.  Perhaps we need to review this further.


Best regards, Eli


> voted. The votes are anonymized but I can go through Limesurvey setting to
> check if is possible to reset someone votes. Please let me know on
> c...@osgeo.org if you already voted and you were unhappy with the fact that
> the system forced you to cast 5 votes.
>
> Best,
> Vasile
> CRO 2017
>
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2017

[2] http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html

>
>
> On 10/18/17 11:57 AM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
>>
>> Dear charter members,
>>
>> It's time to vote for our new members of the board of directors. Like in
>> the previous years, an electronic voting system was setup. In minutes from
>> now, emails with personal voting links will be sent to all our charter
>> members. If you don't receive your voting link in the next couple of hours
>> please let me know at c...@osgeo.org. Before doing that please also check
>> your "Spam" folder. Sending hundreds of messages at once is not easy and it
>> can be interpreted as spam by some of the filtering systems. Also, sometimes
>> the e-mail addresses change but the charter member contact database is not
>> up to date. I will try to contact all the members with bounced invitations
>> via alternative email/twitter/linkedin/etc to update the email account and
>> to make sure that are able to vote.
>>
>> Thank you for supporting OSGeo!
>>
>> Best,
>> Vasile
>> CRO 2017
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>
>
>
> --
> -
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

Hi Venka, all,

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Eli Adam  wrote:
> Hi Venka,
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
>  wrote:
>> Hi Eli,
>>
>> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
>> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.
>
> Yes, thanks Jorge.
>
>>
>> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
>>
>> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> their last meeting,
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> of no concern to the Board.
>>
>>
>> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did not
>> arise
>> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.
>
> Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
> that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
> suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
> unknown.

It appears that voting has now started and I don't see any Board
threads on the legitimacy of the CRO accepting a nomination,
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/thread.html

>
>>
>> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
>> process.
>
> Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
> making noise and allow the proper process to work.
>

Should I now conclude that this issue is of no concern to the Board?

Best regards, Eli


> Best regards, Eli
>
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Venka
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eli,
>>
>> I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
>>
>> I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and me.
>> --
>> Jorge Sanz
>> https://jorgesanz.net
>>
>> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos
>>
>> El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Eli,
>> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
>>
>> co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
>>
>> I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
>> for pointing it out to me.
>>
>> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
>>
>> he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
>>
>> Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
>> for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
>> proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
>> their last meeting,
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
>> of no concern to the Board.
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
>>
>>
>> Gérald Fenoy
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>>
>> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
>>
>> Nicolas,
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
>>
>> Directors
>>
>> election.
>>
>> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
>> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
>> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
>> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
>>
>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
>>
>> contributions
>>
>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and
>>
>> long
>>
>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of
>>
>> the
>>
>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who
>>
>> may
>>
>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good
>>
>> read
>>
>> before you vote.
>>
>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
>>
>> understanding of
>>
>> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan.
>>
>> Experienced
>>
>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects
>>
>> and
>>
>> people. He

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

Hi Venka,

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan
 wrote:
> Hi Eli,
>
> First of all, thanks to Jorge for volunteering to be co-CRO
> and fixing the CRO alias promptly.

Yes, thanks Jorge.

>
> Regarding your other comment reproduced below;
>
> The Board did not appear to review this topic at
> their last meeting,
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
> of no concern to the Board.
>
>
> The question of review this topic at the 2017-10-05 board meeting did not
> arise
> as the nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-08.

Thanks for fixing my mistake, I misunderstood the dates and thought
that nomination for our ex-co-CRO was filed on 2017-10-01.  Sorry to
suggest that it was of no concern to the Board when it is actually
unknown.

>
> I would like to assure you that I share your concern about the proper
> process.

Great, I hope that the Board follows the proper process.  I'll stop
making noise and allow the proper process to work.

Best regards, Eli

>
> Best
>
> Venka
>
>
>
>
> On 10/12/2017 1:58 AM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>
> Hi Eli,
>
> I did it yesterday without having a ticket involved. My bad sorry.
>
> I confirm that the CRO alias is now sending emails only to Vasile and me.
> --
> Jorge Sanz
> https://jorgesanz.net
>
> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity and typos
>
> El 11 oct. 2017 18:36, "Eli Adam"  escribió:
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Eli,
> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of
>
> co-CRO when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].
>
> I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
> for pointing it out to me.
>
> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but
>
> he is no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
>
> Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
> for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
> proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
> their last meeting,
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
> of no concern to the Board.
>
> Best regards, Eli
>
> Best regards,
>
> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
>
>
> Gérald Fenoy
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>
> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
>
> Nicolas,
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon 
>
> wrote:
>
> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of
>
> Directors
>
> election.
>
> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
>
> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless
>
> contributions
>
> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and
>
> long
>
> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of
>
> the
>
> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who
>
> may
>
> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good
>
> read
>
> before you vote.
>
> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep
>
> understanding of
>
> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan.
>
> Experienced
>
> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects
>
> and
>
> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent
>
> globally.
>
> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas Bozon
>
>
> ---
> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the
>
> nomination
>
> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to
>
> confirm to
>
> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page
>
> still
>
> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
> nomination process in this special case.
> ---
>
> The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accep

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Fenoy Gerald  wrote:
> Dear Eli,
> as you may have notice, Jeff has stepped down from his position of co-CRO 
> when accepting the Nicolas’ nomination [1].

I didn't find that thread while scanning through the archive.  Thanks
for pointing it out to me.

>
> Jeff was involved in the charter member election process as co-CRO but he is 
> no more so, I guess, there is no issue for the board election.
>

Was the c...@osgeo.org email alias updated?  I didn't notice a ticket
for that.  I'm impressed that there is so little concern about the
proper process.  The Board did not appear to review this topic at
their last meeting,
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2017-10-05, so perhaps it is
of no concern to the Board.

Best regards, Eli

>
> Best regards,
>
> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-October/036449.html
>
>
> Gérald Fenoy
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
>
>> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 16:04, Eli Adam  a écrit :
>>
>> Nicolas,
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors
>>> election.
>>
>> I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
>> your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
>> In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
>> remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.
>>
>>>
>>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
>>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions
>>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long
>>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
>>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may
>>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
>>> before you vote.
>>>
>>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding of
>>> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced
>>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and
>>> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.
>>>
>>> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
>>> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
>>> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Nicolas Bozon
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination
>>> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm to
>>> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still
>>> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
>>> nomination process in this special case.
>>> ---
>>
>> The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
>> the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
>> counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
>> the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
>> doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
>> nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
>> appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
>> CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
>> CRO is a difficult job and much credit to those who do it.  Also,
>> someone (other than me) should be paying attention to the basic
>> process and raise these issues.
>>
>> Best regards, Eli
>>
>>
>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna

[Eli Adam]

Nicolas,

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 2:48 PM, nicolas bozon  wrote:
>
> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors
> election.

I don't think that you can nominate the CRO, nor can the CRO accept
your nomination, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Chief_Returning_Officer.
In some past years the CRO was a sitting Board member with a year
remaining on their term thus avoiding this situation.

>
> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i
> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions
> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long
> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the
> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may
> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read
> before you vote.
>
> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding of
> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced
> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and
> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally.
>
> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i
> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all
> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas Bozon
>
>
> ---
> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination
> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm to
> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still
> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the
> nomination process in this special case.
> ---

The point is not to avoid Jeff confirming to himself that he accepts
the nomination, it is to avoid the CRO running an election and
counting votes when they are also standing for election. It is really
the Board's (and CRO's) responsibility to ensure that this situation
doesn't occur.  The Board should not appoint CROs who might accept a
nomination and people who might accept a nomination should not accept
appointment as CRO.  Maybe we should return to the tradition of the
CRO being a sitting Board member with a year remaining on their term.
CRO is a difficult job and much credit to those who do it.  Also,
someone (other than me) should be paying attention to the basic
process and raise these issues.

Best regards, Eli


>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Help fund the OSGeo Travel Grant Programme!

[Eli Adam]

Hi all,

Demand for travel grants is fast outpacing funds and we've got many
great applicants.  Will you help us bring more people to Boston?
Please donate to the cause.

If you would like to support increasing access to FOSS4G, you can
donate to the Travel Grant Programme here,
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=BHVFTPSGFS99W.
We greatly appreciate your support.

More information on the Travel Grant Programme is available on the
wiki, https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Travel_Grant_Programme_2017

Best regards and Merry Mapping, Eli

Links:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=BHVFTPSGFS99W
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposed OSGeo Vision

[Eli Adam]

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden
 wrote:
> Suchith, Cameron, Board Members and everybody else,
>

> Our board has a face2face meeting in January 2016 (althought the wiki
> mentions "2015") [3] (in a cold, wet -but thanks to Jeroen Ticheler
> welcoming- Holland).

> Some ideas & suggestions:

> - For the board f2f: consider to invite an independant process facilitator

+1.  Yes, please ensure that OSGeo funds are well spent by having some
independent facilitator helping have a productive meeting.  I could
recommend resources in Oregon and I'm sure that there are similar in
Holland.  The person does not need to know anything about software,
open source, non-profits, or foundations.  Probably better if they
don't so as to keep the focus on the process.

Best Regards, Eli

> Regards,
>
> Gert-Jan
>
>
> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014912.html
> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-July/014521.html
> [3] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Face_to_Face_Meeting_2015
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board elections

[Eli Adam]

Hi Board Candidates, Charter members and all OSGeo members,

Thanks to Steven for prompting to get some content into this election
[0] along with the candidates who responded.

Also thanks to Darrell [1] and mpg [2] for asking direct questions of
the candidates.  Are any candidates going to answer these questions?
Does anyone else have substantive questions to ask of the candidates?
Are other voters comfortable voting with the limited currently
available information?

Best regards, Eli

[0] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014823.html
[1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014879.html
[2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014881.html


On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Ravi Kumar
 wrote:
> My Dear OSGeo Charter members,
> the board election date 26th Sept is just a few days away.
>
> Charter members only can vote for the Board and so it is The Most Important
> Duty.
>
> If anything, regional representation is of great significance, especially in
> the Developing Countries. So please give a thought to this ..
>
> Cheers
> Ravi Kumar
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Should we consider all the Americas for FOSS4G2017 Conference?

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Steven Feldman  wrote:
> Interesting idea
>
> What do you think the outcome would be? Seems to me that it would make it
> would reduce competition in ‘elsewhere group’. Would it increase S American
> chance of hosting a global FOSS4G?
>

That is an interesting point and question.  Also probably the real
point of deliberation unless we increase the number of regions in the
rotation.

> My view, it makes sense to keep 1/3 FOSS4G’s in N America and 1/3 in Europe
> with the 3rd in ‘elsewhere group’ - it encourages outreach to new places
> once in 3 years while ensuring that the event is hosted in the back yards of
> the 2 largest communities of contributors and users in the other years.

That largely echos previous discussions,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Reboot_2011  Reviewing the old
debate is certainly interesting.

> __
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>
>
> On 8 Jul 2015, at 13:45, Ian Turton  wrote:
>
> Following a brief twitter discussion - Jeff suggested I raise the idea here.
>

This probably didn't fit your timing on twitter, but I would have been
far more receptive to ideas over that past several months while I
called for input as opposed to within 36 hours of finalizing and
releasing the RFP.

> Now that we have FOSS4g-NA as a regular conference should we consider
> opening up the "third" location in our conference rotation to be Americas -
> i.e. North and South America instead of lumping South America in with Asia
> and the Pacific (or the anywhere else group)?
>
> I can understand the thinking back in 2010 but I know there are now large
> groups in Brazil and the Spanish language group is active in South America
> too.

Sao Paolo, Brazil sent a LOI in 2014 (another "North America" year)
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2013-May/002118.html
However, there was no South American LOI in 2015 when South America
would have had priority over North America.  Are you involved with the
South American Community Ian?  There are large, long time, active
groups in South America hearing from those groups would be useful.

Any potential LOCs who are interested can certainly send a low-effort
LOI.  You never know who else will send a LOI, yours could be the only
letter.  If there are letters both from the target region and
somewhere else, it is up to the committee if they are willing to
consider it.

Eli



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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2017 RFP

[Eli Adam]

The OSGeo Conference Committee is happy to announce the call for
hosting the FOSS4G 2017 event. Year after year, building on the
success of previous conferences, excitement builds for the next
FOSS4G! This year is no different with much excitement for Seoul,
South Korea (http://2015.foss4g.org/). OSGeo again plans to make the
2017 event the geospatial conference of the year. Please see the
following page for the actual request for proposals document, as well
as upcoming important dates:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2017_Bid_Process

If you have any questions regarding the 2017 call for hosting, feel
free to send an email to the conference-dev mailing list (subscribe at
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2015 Charter Member elections

[Eli Adam]

Vasile,

Great work pulling this together.

We keep calling this discussion things like "Charter member elections"
and addressing it during election periods.  I think that topic is
really something else, "the nature and types of OSGeo Membership" or
something similar.

If we evaluate our existing structure [1], I think that we can regard
"Participants" as a resounding success (there are 10,000+ involved on
the email lists, projects, events, etc).  Just as the "Participants"
are a success, I think that "Members" are a near complete failure [52]
[53] in their current form, I think that "Charter Members" are working
well enough in that they seem to be achieving their purpose of being
people dedicated to the OSGeo Mission, electing the Board and Charter
members, and preventing the unlikely scenario of a takeover.  Charter
membership seems to be fraught with all sorts of additional
connotation, confusion, differring perspectives, and debate.  Based on
this, I think that OSGeo should further our success with
"participants", end "membership" since it failed, and refine "Charter"
so that is works better.

What OSGeo membership and Charter membership has been unclear to many.
Here is the explanation that I often give to people (some of whom have
been using and contributing to OSGeo projects for 5+ years):

Members simply self identify as members on the wiki.

Charter members are nominated and elected.  They do what they see fit
when they see fit to further/support the goals and mission of OSGeo.
It has also historically been a badge of honor for contributing good
work.

What a "Charter Member" is is a matter of endless debate but the very
practical purpose is simple: The real practical purpose of Charter
Members is to elect the Board of Directors (and more Charter Members).
It is to prevent hostile takeover of the organization (or the
organization's resources) since OSGeo other than voting for the Board
and Charter Members, is open to all who find it, figure out how to
participate, are inclined to participate, and feel welcome.

By offering to nominate you as a Charter Member what I really think is that:
1) you support the OSGeo Mission and Goals (promote Open Source GIS
software through the world)
2) you are sufficiently responsible and care enough to pay minimal
attention twice per year to vote for the OSGeo Board of Directors and
additional Charter Members
3) in the extremely unlikely scenario of a hostile takeover you would
first be aware of it and secondly vote to prevent it  <--this is
really the sole purpose of Charter Members but it is so unlikely that
people forget this is the purpose and it is sort of a stupid purpose
(even if necessary).



In that regard, I think that the survey should include some questions like:

"OSGeo Membership should be more open/closed"  "Agree or Disagree
1-10; 10 is strongly agree, 1 is strongly disagree"

"The primary purpose of OSGeo Membership is: a) increase participation
in OSGeo activities b) recognize substantial OSGeo contributors c)
give members a sense of identity and cohesion d)
other_"

"Maintaining some structure to prevent takeover of the organization
is: a) a waste of time and effort b) worthwhile even if guarding
against an unlikely event c) other_"

"Charter membership should be renamed to a) keep it as Charter b)
voting members c) electors d) other _"

"Charter membership should not be used as an honor or mark of prestige
instead those should be addressed by a) disagree, charter membership
is for prestige b) The Sol Katz Award c) we should have some other
badge system d) other "

"The number of Charter members should be a) restricted to some low
number b) only be constrained by the number of good candidates
available c) other _"

and other questions regarding the types and nature of OSGeo membership

I do believe that Charter members play an important role guarding
against the extremely unlikely risk of a takeover.  Other than that
very minor role which can be achieved by several methods, I think that
all OSGeo activities should be as open as possible to as many people
as possible.

Best regards, Eli

[1] http://www.osgeo.org/Membership
[52] http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Category:OSGeo_Member  --
fewer than 1,000 people have bothered to register as "Members"
[53] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_member_page_instruction


On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:54 AM, Vasile Craciunescu
 wrote:
> Dear Cameron, Arnulf, Jeff and Gert-Jan,
>
> Thank you for your appreciations! It was an interesting exercise of digital
> archeology :)
>
> Dear all,
>
> I'm waiting until tomorrow for more feedback/ideas. Then I will draft a
> survey, I will send you the questions and ask for your opinion and finally,
> if all agree, the survey will be sent to all charter members.
>
> Best,
> Vasile
>
>
> On 7/2/15 3:29 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Vasile for all your excellent research. Great job (and an
>> interest

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Code of Conduct Implementation Plan Was: Code of Conduct in Real Case

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Eli Adam  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:27 AM, Bart van den Eijnden  
> wrote:
>> Hey Jeff,
>>
>> if you truly feel this way, please put forward a motion on the next board 
>> meeting. This needs to be decided by the board as a whole I guess.
>>
>> Personally I’m not in favour of destroying all that good work, but I also 
>> understand the need to move forward. Where are those discussions happening 
>> right now?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bart
>
> At State of the Map US in New York there was a BoF on CoC next steps
> and implementation.  Some of the results of that are on the wiki and
> continuing there.  The direction may be to form an OSGeo Code of
> Conduct Committee which would also have an email list.  It is still
> being sorted out.
>

The joys of email threads... see what Kristin already more clearly
articulated, 
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2015-June/003055.html

> I agree with Bart, that all this work should not be discarded but
> supported and refined into something that works.  Arbitrary deadlines
> may or may not be helpful for that process and I took Jeff's comment
> as at least half joke or at least not a real deadline.  In the worst
> case, I see the appropriate action to be to add a note to the CoC that
> it is aspirational as there is no process to report or respond to
> reports and that help is needed to develop that.  I don't see
> repealing or replacing the CoC as an appropriate action.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Jeff McKenna
>  wrote:
>> Hi Kate,
>>
>> I came up with a 1st September deadline in my head because I don't want the
>> FOSS4G event to come along without some sort of way to handle reports.  We
>> can ignore the deadline, but I wanted to let everyone know that a process is
>> really needed, besides text on a webpage.   You and I and others were part
>> of these offline implementation plan discussions, which were great, but I
>> think it stalled when selecting the name of the committee.
>
> FOSS4G 2015 was bid without a CoC and was not part of the contract
> when signed.  Independently of the Conference Committee and Board, the
> 2015 LOC adopted a CoC, http://2015.foss4g.org/about/codeofconduct/
> complete with contact information.
>
> Sanghee, while OSGeo sorts out the details of CoC reporting and
> implementation, you and the LOC have a conference to run.  The LOC
> adopted a CoC and that is great.  I suggest that the LOC stick with
> that and make plans to implement it.  The LOC could select 3-5 people
> who are representative of the LOC and probable attendees to respond to
> CoC reports.  Ideally those people are reasonable and have some skills
> or experience dealing with difficult situations and work well with
> people.  This group of people should decide on how to implement the
> CoC (practicing on a list of hypothetical issues can be very helpful
> thought exercise) and inform the rest of the LOC and train volunteers
> where to direct issues.  This group of people could seek additional
> resources through either OSGeo or other venues.
>
> In the case of your slides, obviously you should not be involved in
> deciding any action (if you are in the group that will implement the
> CoC) and you and Charlie appear to have settled things between
> yourselves, although in a public manner.
>
>
>>
>> Maybe what is best is if we move those private discussions to here, on this
>> list.
>>
>> I do notice now that Camille has been recently adding to the initial wiki
>> page for the possible committee:
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/CodeOfConduct_Committee
>
> Bart, this is currently probably the best place to continue.
>
>
>>
>> As noted in offline discussions, we can always create a new wiki page if we
>> need to rename the committee.
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-06-24 11:21 AM, Kate Chapman wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> I thought this comment deserved its own discussion. While I agree that
>>> not having an implementation plan for the Code of Conduct is not
>>> acceptable I view it as just as unacceptable to switch to a diversity
>>> statement. When I registered for FOSS4G last week it was with the
>>> understanding that OSGEO has adopted a Code of Conduct. If this is
>>> simply switched to a diversity statement I will not be attending FOSS4G.
>>> I am not the only women I know that would feel the same way.
>
> Kate, thanks for bringing this issue out.  I mostly took Jeff's
> statements as hyperbole intended to m

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Code of Conduct Implementation Plan Was: Code of Conduct in Real Case

[Eli Adam]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:27 AM, Bart van den Eijnden  wrote:
> Hey Jeff,
>
> if you truly feel this way, please put forward a motion on the next board 
> meeting. This needs to be decided by the board as a whole I guess.
>
> Personally I’m not in favour of destroying all that good work, but I also 
> understand the need to move forward. Where are those discussions happening 
> right now?
>
> Best regards,
> Bart

At State of the Map US in New York there was a BoF on CoC next steps
and implementation.  Some of the results of that are on the wiki and
continuing there.  The direction may be to form an OSGeo Code of
Conduct Committee which would also have an email list.  It is still
being sorted out.

I agree with Bart, that all this work should not be discarded but
supported and refined into something that works.  Arbitrary deadlines
may or may not be helpful for that process and I took Jeff's comment
as at least half joke or at least not a real deadline.  In the worst
case, I see the appropriate action to be to add a note to the CoC that
it is aspirational as there is no process to report or respond to
reports and that help is needed to develop that.  I don't see
repealing or replacing the CoC as an appropriate action.


On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Jeff McKenna
 wrote:
> Hi Kate,
>
> I came up with a 1st September deadline in my head because I don't want the
> FOSS4G event to come along without some sort of way to handle reports.  We
> can ignore the deadline, but I wanted to let everyone know that a process is
> really needed, besides text on a webpage.   You and I and others were part
> of these offline implementation plan discussions, which were great, but I
> think it stalled when selecting the name of the committee.

FOSS4G 2015 was bid without a CoC and was not part of the contract
when signed.  Independently of the Conference Committee and Board, the
2015 LOC adopted a CoC, http://2015.foss4g.org/about/codeofconduct/
complete with contact information.

Sanghee, while OSGeo sorts out the details of CoC reporting and
implementation, you and the LOC have a conference to run.  The LOC
adopted a CoC and that is great.  I suggest that the LOC stick with
that and make plans to implement it.  The LOC could select 3-5 people
who are representative of the LOC and probable attendees to respond to
CoC reports.  Ideally those people are reasonable and have some skills
or experience dealing with difficult situations and work well with
people.  This group of people should decide on how to implement the
CoC (practicing on a list of hypothetical issues can be very helpful
thought exercise) and inform the rest of the LOC and train volunteers
where to direct issues.  This group of people could seek additional
resources through either OSGeo or other venues.

In the case of your slides, obviously you should not be involved in
deciding any action (if you are in the group that will implement the
CoC) and you and Charlie appear to have settled things between
yourselves, although in a public manner.


>
> Maybe what is best is if we move those private discussions to here, on this
> list.
>
> I do notice now that Camille has been recently adding to the initial wiki
> page for the possible committee:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/CodeOfConduct_Committee

Bart, this is currently probably the best place to continue.


>
> As noted in offline discussions, we can always create a new wiki page if we
> need to rename the committee.
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-06-24 11:21 AM, Kate Chapman wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> I thought this comment deserved its own discussion. While I agree that
>> not having an implementation plan for the Code of Conduct is not
>> acceptable I view it as just as unacceptable to switch to a diversity
>> statement. When I registered for FOSS4G last week it was with the
>> understanding that OSGEO has adopted a Code of Conduct. If this is
>> simply switched to a diversity statement I will not be attending FOSS4G.
>> I am not the only women I know that would feel the same way.

Kate, thanks for bringing this issue out.  I mostly took Jeff's
statements as hyperbole intended to move the process forward and
ignored it.  But yes, it is serious, the solution to the problem of
reports is not to remove the ability to make reports but to build the
capacity to respond to reports.

>>
>> I do not attend conferences without a Code of Conduct and some companies
>> do not sponsor conferences without a Code of Conduct.
>>
>> I will assist in the implementation, but I am not leading it. I am
>> willing to volunteer as a contact to assist people at FOSS4G if the
>> implementation plan includes the need for a contact person (which I
>> suspect it would).

You've already made great contributions to the work that has been
completed.  Thanks for that and your willingness to help further.  The
2015 LOC and others would be wise to take you up on your offer.

Best regards, Eli

>>
>> -Kate
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:03 AM, J

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open source / open data related to addressing/geocoding

[Eli Adam]

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Iván Sánchez  wrote:
> El Martes 21. abril 2015 10.10.13 Serena Coetzee escribió:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> on Thursday this week, I am presenting about open source and open data to
>> the Addressing Group of the Universal Postal Union (UPU), a UN organization
>> with 192 member countries [1]. If you know about interesting open source
>> software or open data related to addressing and/or geocoding, let me know.
>> Anything that I receive by Wednesday evening, I could include in the
>> presentation.
>
> You might want to include something about the different ideas that the
> OpenStreetMap community had about addressing schemas:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/House_numbers&oldid=87
>
> Also:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Schema
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim
>
>
> I also remember a few remarks during the intro of last year's FOSS4G about the
> (low) quality of open-source geocoders. Alas, I've been unable to locate a
> video recording of the intro (before the first keynote).

Do you mean, https://vimeo.com/album/3039586/video/106862980?

Best Regards, Eli

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Earth View

[Eli Adam]

Hi Clement,

That looks like some cool stuff!

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Iván Sánchez  wrote:
> El Lunes 20. abril 2015 08.44.03 Jachym Cepicky escribió:
>> looks nice, keep pushing. Maybe you could integrate it with some already in
>> place tool, like OL, Leaflet?
>
> Yeah, I'd be interested in knowing why not reuse/expand OL3-Cesium here.

Mapzen's Tangram might be of interest as well,
https://github.com/tangrams/tangram

Best regards, Eli


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on statement : avoiding slang. Was: Drafting a Diversity statement for the foundation (call for input)

[Eli Adam]

>
> With so many variants on the CoC/Diversity Statement, it would be great if a
> international standard could be created, such as done for Open Source
> Licenses.

I think that there are a few CoC consolidation efforts like that
currently, here is one [4] and another [5] that reference the first.
I can't find all the links right now but recall them from the past.
There was some OSM work to make one specific to mailing lists [6].
Here are a handful of additional CoCs too [7], [8], [9], [10].

CoC is inherently different than licenses.  Licenses have
compatibility issues and there are strong forces which promote
well-known compatible licenses.  Various companies have lawyers review
licenses for compatibility too.  There is no concept of compatibility
in CoC, nor are diverse legal resources dedicated to it.  So CoC is a
realm (unlike licenses) where everyone can have their just slightly
different CoC without causing incompatibility.  Despite the
variability, all strive to promote a safe, productive, functioning
community for all.

Eli


[4] http://citizencodeofconduct.org/
[5] http://www.rust-lang.org/conduct.html
[6] 
https://github.com/osmlab/codes-of-conduct/blob/master/mailing_lists/code_of_conduct.md
[7] https://github.com/codeforamerica/codeofconduct
[8] https://github.com/twitter/code-of-conduct
[9] https://github.com/python/pycon-code-of-conduct
[10] https://github.com/selenamarie/conference_policies (list of
others, mostly ~2012)




>
> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Draft_OSGeo_Code_of_Conduct
> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Debian_Code_of_Conduct
> [3]
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Geek_Feminism_Template_Anti_Harassment_Policy
>
>
> On 31/03/2015 5:40 pm, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:
>
> Yes, I agree. Diversity also refers to language. We have to start reason on
> that as a richness and not as a barrier. I like to have this item in the
> CoC.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best.
>
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>
>
>
>
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> Da: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org  per
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> Inviato: martedì 31 marzo 2015 08.33
> A: Andrea Aime; Cameron Shorter
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions
> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on statement : avoiding slang. Was:
> Drafting a Diversity statement for the foundation (call for input)
>
>
> Hi,
>
> My experience within OSGeo was positive so far. At FOSS4G, sometimes people
> forget, that half of the crowd speaks English only occasionally, which can
> lead to misunderstandings.
>
> Anyway: I would like to point out, that it is not only matter of writing,
> but also talking (at foss4gs, sprints, ...) In public but also in private,
> what can be even harder than writing (you can not take your time to figure
> out the best way how to express, what you need).
>
> And yes, having something like that in CoC would be nice.
>
>
> J
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015, 22:00 Andrea Aime 
> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Cameron Shorter 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks all for the feedback.
> So my question is:
> 1. Should our Code of Conduct/Diversity statement mention that we have a
> multilingual community?
>
> I believe it's still a good idea.
>
>
>
>
> 2. What should we recommend that all, and especially native speakers do to
> make our community welcoming to non-native speakers?
>
> I'd suggest, just a reminder that the level of written English can vary a
> lot, ranging from cases where the lack of fluency is
>
> evident, to cases where the sentence seems just too direct/rude, so
> generally speaking, it's a good idea to try and be patient
>
> and understanding.
>
> Sometimes I wish there was a guide of typical expectations/orientations
> varying culture by culture, to try
>
> and understand better where people are coming from and put what they say in
> context (this example
>
>  might be wrong or just a silly generalizations, but just to give you an
> idea, I've heard
>
> Japanese normally won't say no in a conversation, you have to figure it out,
> and other cultures surely
>
> have their "surprising" traits as well).
>
> Cheers
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OGC seeks public comment on candidate 3D Portrayal Service Standard

[Eli Adam]

For anyone interested, the OGC is in a comment period for 3D Portrayal
Service Standard.  Details below.

Best regards, Eli

http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/130

Please note:  This Request is scheduled to close on 27 February 2015.

In the last decade, progress in airborne and mobile laser scanning and
photogrammetric methods has brought an explosion of terrain data and
detailed 3D models of the built environment. The 3d models are often
maintained in proprietary environments. The Open Geospatial Consortium
(OGC) and the Web3D Consortium have both been working to address the
need for interoperability, as well as the content challenges of
volume, access speed, and diversity of devices. The Web3D Consortium
has focused on open standards for real-time 3D visualization,
including streaming, and their members developed a Geospatial
Component extension for X3D. The OGC has focused on developing a
service interface to provide interoperable access to 3D geospatial
data servers. In 2012, a group of OGC members, building on work done
in both organizations, completed the 3D Portrayal Interoperability
Experiment (3DPIE) to develop and evaluate best practices for 3D
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G Portland: volunteers for OSGeo Booth

[Eli Adam]

We all know that an exciting FOSS4G is just around the corner in Portland,
OR September 8-13th.  See all the great activities drawn together here,
https://2014.foss4g.org/about/calendar/  Check the sessions here,
https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/sessions/ and then...

Registration here:http://foss4g2014.eventbrite.com/

On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Jeff McKenna <
jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Initial plans for an OSGeo Booth are coming together (many thanks to
> PDX-OSGeo), but we need more help with booth-duty and materials.  If you
> can spare some time in Portland, add your name to a timeslot and help out:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2014_OSGeo_Booth
>

Yes, thanks for helping on wiki Jeff.

Please help us with the OSGeo booth.  Bring some relevant books for
display/demonstration, staff the booth for some time, talk with people
interested in OSGeo, showoff OSGeo-Live, and have a great time.  The more
the merrier.

See you in PDX!

Eli




>
> Thanks!
>
> -jeff
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: FOSS4G 2014 Code Sprint Sept. 13th

[Eli Adam]

Hi all,

Only one month until the FOSS4G code sprint!  That means it is just the
right time for projects and individuals to fill out the Code Sprint wiki,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2014_Code_Sprint


Merry Mapping, Eli




On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jeff McKenna <
jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hello Sprinters,
>
> There has already been some activity with projects planning for the
> FOSS4G code sprint [0] [1] and probably others that I haven't noticed.
>
> Now would be a good time to send emails to project mailing lists to
> organize and plan.
>
> If you are attending, signing up on the wiki [3] greatly helps us plan
> enough space and order enough coffee and food.  It also lets projects
> see who is attending.  We are collecting a yes/no for attending the
> code sprint during registration.  I'll email those people to check the
> wiki for coordinating with projects and others.
>
> P.S. Surely you have already registered for FOSS4G September 8-13th in
> Portland, Oregon [4]
>
> See you in PDX, Eli
>
> [0] http://blog.geoserver.org/2014/07/25/geoserver-sunday-sprint-foss4g/
> [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/mapserver-dev/2014-July/014118.html
> [3] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2014_Code_Sprint
> [4] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/registration/
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G and so much more - Volcanoes, Megafauna, Sprinting, Hieroglyphics and Beer, oh my!

[Eli Adam]

August 6, 2014
Portland, Oregon, USA

View html version in browser http://eepurl.com/0nzhD
Stay up to date on the website: https://2014.foss4g.org/


After you register [1] for FOSS4G and as you make your plans to join us in
Portland, Oregon this September 8th - 13th, you might be wondering what
other exciting things you can do while in PDX...
[1] http://foss4g2014.eventbrite.com/

** PostgreSQL Day


Join the Portland Postgres Users Group [2] (PDXPUG) for PostgreSQL Day on
September 6th, the Saturday before FOSS4G. Attendance is free, but an RSVP
is required [3]. PostgreSQL Day is hosted by Portland State University and
PDXPUG.
[2] http://pdxpug.wordpress.com/
[3] http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PDXPUGDay2014

** Code Sprint


The annual FOSS4G Code Sprint is on Saturday Sept 13th at the Eliot
Center.  More details at the wiki [4].  The industrious GeoServer team is
continuing the sprint on Sunday [5].
[4] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2014_Code_Sprint
[5] http://blog.geoserver.org/2014/07/25/geoserver-sunday-sprint-foss4g/

** WhereCampPDX


If you are lingering in PDX after FOSS4G, and need a place to put your
creative thoughts into action, drop by WhereCampPDX and share them with
other friendly geo-nerds.  WhereCamps are unconferences that aim to connect
geo-enthusiasts, developers, social place hackers, artists, activists, grad
students, geographers, earth scientists and anybody else who wants to "know
their place".  More details at website [6]. (check back for updates).
[6] http://wherecamppdx.org/

** Js.Geo


Js.Geo is officially happening during FOSS4G (for reals).  This one day
conference brings together experts or people deeply interested in spending
a full day digging into advanced topics in the Geospatial Javascript realm.
We'll convene for a series of curated talks from some leaders in  JS + GEO
and have plenty of time to explore ideas and concepts. The talks will also
leave time for demos and questions and answer sessions

More details and speakers will be revealed as the event gets closer, but
space is limited and we are down to 80 tickets.  So book your  spot [7].

[7] http://jsgeo2014.eventbrite.com/

** LocationTech


After an evening of hor d'oeuvres in the exhibit hall, head over to the
FOSS4G stop of the LocationTech Tour [8].
[8] http://tour.locationtech.org/2014/


** Additional guest tickets for Gala


The Gala Night at the World Forestry Center is included with regular
conference registration.  If you would like to bring a guest, then you will
need an additional ticket.  Note that single day and volunteer
registrations do not include the Gala Night; you will need a ticket if you
want to attend.  Gala Night tickets are available in the registration [1].
[1] http://foss4g2014.eventbrite.com/

** Field trips and tours


You traveled all the way to Portland so be sure to take some time to relax
and explore our beautiful little corner of the world with one of our field
trips or tours:

Sunday, Sept. 7th:
* Portland Timbers Soccer Match [9] (football & chainsaws!)

Friday, Sept. 12th:
* Portland 101 Walking Tour [10] (more than just Portlandia!)
* Keep Portland Wired! Walking Tour [11] (wired, and weird!)

Saturday, Sept. 13th:
* Mount Saint Helens Field Trip [12] (live volcano!)
* Willamette Valley Wine Tour [13] (viticulture and sustainable farming!)

Sunday, Sept. 14th:
* Portland Breweries Tour [14] (Beer Bus!)

Space is still available, but limited. To register for an activity, visit
the mainregistration [1] page (scroll towards the bottom). Note that you
can still register for field trips even if you've already registered for
the conference. If you need assistance or have questions, contact support
at foss4g-i...@osgeo.org.
[9] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/field-trips#Timbers
[10] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/field-trips#WalkingTours
[11] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/field-trips#WalkingTours
[12] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/field-trips#MtStHelens
[13] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/field-trips#WillametteWine
[14] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/field-trips#Breweries


** About FOSS4G


About FOSS4G
The annual FOSS4G conference is the largest global gathering focused on
open source geospatial software. FOSS4G brings together developers, users,
decision-makers and observers from a broad spectrum of organizations and
fields of operation. Through six days of workshops, presentations,
discussions, and cooperation, FOSS4G participants create effective and
relevant geospatial products, standar

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Election 2014] Nominations finish tomorrow!!

[Eli Adam]

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Jeff McKenna
 wrote:
> Indeed as I informed the Board privately last night, in another non-profit
> software org there is a hostile take-over trying to happen...so our bylaws
> on elections are very important.

When I approach someone who I want to nominate for charter membership,
I sometimes explain that their only real functional role in OSGeo as
charter members is to be aware of and respond to hostile takeover
attempts of OSGeo or OSGeo funds/assets.  And to serve as the pool
from which board members are drawn.  As unlikely as hostile takeover
attempts are, recognizing and responding to that is the only thing
that charter members can do that non-charter members can not (other
than serving on the board).  In most cases, individuals have already
long been doing and can continue to do all the positive actions and
attributes listed,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes

I get some "are you serious" responses for approaching people this way
but do think it is worth reminding people of this important (although
unlikely and hopefully never needed) role.  I think that the process
is self-actualizing, i.e. since we have a policy in place that
prevents or guards against hostile takeover attempts, there will be no
attempts since it would not work.  Since we have a maybe somewhat
cumbersome process to guard against something that will never happen
since the process exists, it makes it look like the process is
entirely unnecessary and a pointless headache.

I think that this function is sufficiently obscure that the board
should consider adding it to the positive attributes sought from
charter members and have taken the liberty of putting it on the board
agenda [1].  If the board has time and so desires, they may undertake
this.

I'm not trying to ignore the important role that charter members play
by serving as the pool of potential board members, it is just that
most charter members will never serve on the board but all charter
members can and should actively be aware of and respond to potential
hostile takeover attempts (which once again are unlikely and will
probably never happen so long as we have effective policies in place
to prevent them).

Preposterously, Eli

[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-08-14#Agenda

>
> But if Venka and other Charter members want changes in the bylaws it should
> be made possible, and considered strongly by the Board.
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> On 2014-08-01 7:40 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>
>> Venka,
>> Further to Jorge's email, the reason we need to vote in charter members
>> (rather than accepting everyone who applies) is to meet OSGeo bylaws
>> which state that we need to vote in new charter members every year.
>> The reason for the bylaws is to avoid hostile take-over. Admittedly very
>> unlikely, but still possible.
>>
>> So we have changed our voting processes to try and be as inclusive as
>> possible, basically aiming to ensure that everyone who is interested,
>> and actively contributing toward OSGeo should be voted in for charter
>> membership.
>>
>> On 2/08/2014 2:30 am, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>>>
>>> 2014-08-01 15:23 GMT+02:00 Venkatesh Raghavan
>>> :


 What is the "voting" for, I though all the  nominated members would be
 automatically
 elected.  Perhaps I am the only one not aware of the new election rules.
 Can you clarify please.

 Venka
>>>
>>> Hi Venka, thanks for raising the question.
>>>
>>> On previous years the Board allocated a number of seats and if there
>>> were more nominations than seats then elections were conducted, so
>>> some people could not get the membership if they were at the end of
>>> the ranking. Other years no election was needed because there were
>>> less nominations than seats, so everyone was automatically accepted.
>>>
>>> As was discussed in June[1], a new procedure was designed[2]. On this
>>> new procedure, there is no limit of seats for new charter members, the
>>> nominations are carried as every year but instead of having a number
>>> of seats, we will have a different criteria for accepting new members.
>>> Another difference is that instead of voting by e-mail, with 180
>>> members, we will use an electronic voting system.
>>>
>>> For every nominee, current Charter Members will have to decide say
>>> "Yes", "No" or "Abstain" for their acceptance. This way we assure that
>>> supported nominees are accepted. The criteria will be:
>>>
>>> - The nominee needs to have more Yes than No
>>> - The nominee needs to have more than 5% of Yes of voting members.
>>>
>>>
>>> And then we arrive to one VERY important point in my opinion. For me,
>>> the +1 and seconds on discuss mean a LOT, because maybe a I don't know
>>> the nominee, but I know many of the nominators and seconders, and I
>>> trust their criteria so they add points for me to vote a *Yes* instead
>>> of an *Abstain*.
>>>
>>> There are more than 60 nominations, so checking every no

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone openly georeferencing maps and pictures in time?

[Eli Adam]

I've added one comment and link to Pat's excellent response.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Pat Tressel  wrote:
> Tim --
>
>> This is a project idea which seems obvious to me, and one which would so
>> obviously benefit from OSGeo involvement, that I feel someone on this list
>> will know very quickly if anyone is working on it in an open data way.  It
>> comes from thinking about the warping which needs to be done to get from an
>> aerial photograph to a map, and extending the thought to what can be done
>> with a very oblique image - such as I might take standing on the ground.
>> Any photo, not just an aerial one, can be considered as a map just waiting
>> to be tagged with scale,  projection, geolocation and date.  The photo
>> doesn't have to be great quality - perfection is not needed.  In fact, if we
>> allow some artistic licence, we could apply the same process to scans of
>> historic prints and paintings.
>>
>> And if we had a library of such geotagged images, researchers would be
>> able to specify an area and a time range, and search for images whose area
>> of coverage overlapped it taken during the given period.  It would be of
>> antiquarian interest - there's an organisation I belong to called the London
>> Topographical Society  which has access to a mind-boggling number of maps,
>> old photos and prints of London - but also to academics in Geography and
>> Town Planning departments.  It would also be of commercial interest to
>> developers looking at the planning context for new developments.  And I
>> think I've read somewhere of commercial companies - Google, Facebook? -
>> collecting various picture of the same location, e.g. a holiday destination,
>> and using the combined data to produce images with unwanted obstructions
>> eliminated.  It has to be possible, so is anyone working on developing an
>> open source library of images so tagged?
>>
>> Brief background on me; I'm a maths graduate, now approaching retirement,
>> and with interests not only in history, but also urban development, so a
>> project along these lines is something I'd love to get involved with.
>> Although I might dream to doing some coding, that's just not realistic when
>> my skills are more in MS Office applications and VBA.  I've also been
>> looking at 'R' and QGIS, and I could get to the point of doing the tagging,
>> except for date stamping, but if there was anyone else further up the
>> learning curves for these, it would be good to link up.  I also have a lot
>> of possible contacts with people who might be interested in such a project
>> as users, which would also make a difference.
>>
>> It seems like such a nice project, so hoping someone can help
>
>
> This is a popular area, since it relates to side-scan sonar, side-looking
> aerial radar, and cameras suspended from drones, which, even if they're
> intended to be pointing down, rarely are.  (It also seems to be somewhat a
> solved problem, just not open-source -- as you may guess, this has military
> use.)
>
> It also comes up in autonomous vehicles, since one wants to infer (for
> instance) distance of objects from imagery.  For both this and
> georeferencing, sequences of (partly) overlapping images -- video -- are
> very useful.
>
> In fact, this subject is under current discussion over on the Humanitarian
> OpenStreetMap Team mailing list, with the revival of OpenAerialMap.  I'd
> recommend joining up with the folks over there.
>
> I'm CCing some folks (Stephen Mather, Kate Chapman, Michael Patrick) who are
> involved with OpenAerialMap and / or OpenStreetMap and georeferencing in
> general.
>
> Some references re. georeferencing imagery (specifically for drones) and
> related (Michael probably has more):
>
> http://opendronemap.github.io/odm/
> http://dronemapper.com/  (commercial image processing service)
> http://flightriot.com/
> http://ccwu.me/vsfm/

Some of the Structure From Motion stuff might play a role in some of
this.  Here is a link on for one such project,
http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~snavely/bundler/

Eli

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2 more nominations (2 of 2)

[Eli Adam]

This is a great nomination and I strongly support it.  Dan stays as
quiet as he can in preference of writing code.  You might have seen
his contributions in various commit logs.  You can see what list
activity he has [0] [1].

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http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodes&user=370161

Eli

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:55 AM, David William Bitner
 wrote:
> Huge +1 here. Dan has been involved with several open source projects and
> has been an active participant in the Twin Cities Local OSGeo Chapter for
> many years.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I would like to nominate Dan (Ducky) Little.  I've worked with him over
>> the years on many projects, and he's a staunch advocate of Open Source
>> software.  He was instrumental in Open Sourcing the GeoMOOSE project and
>> continues to develop and use Open Source tools.
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> Bob Basques
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2 more nominations! (1 of 2)

[Eli Adam]

I also support Jim's nomination.  Jim makes substantial contributions
to GeoMoose including lots of sys admin'ing and infrastructure.  He
also contributes to the ruby binding of GDAL.  You can see some of
Jim's list activity [0] [1].

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Best regards, Eli

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 6:59 AM, David William Bitner
 wrote:
> Another +1 for Jim. Along with being very actively involved in the Twin
> Cities Local OSGeo Chapter for many years. Jim was a key volunteer in
> planning the 2013 FOSS4G North America. Jim has also done much work with the
> Minnesota Statewide Emergency Preparedness Committee to make open source
> geospatial tools and imagery processing staged and available to the
> Minnesota response community.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
>  wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I would like to nominate Jim Klassen as a Charter member.  He's been
>> instrumental over the years in promoting OpenSource software whenever he's
>> been involved in a project and will help the community for years to come.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Bob Basques
>>
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

[Eli Adam]

Reclaiming "Like a girl" to no longer be an insult highlights that
language is an important part of our interactions.

While on campaigns, here are another two specifically on tech and
gender, both with major corporate backing [0][1].

Circling back to OSGeo Charter Member nominations, Jeff received a
report that there are not enough female nominees.  The most direct way
to address this is to think of the people you know and interact with,
if some of those people are women and have the positive attributes [2]
in the recommended membership selection criteria, nominate them or
bring that person's contributions and positive attributes to the
attention of someone else who can nominate them.  You can run through
a mental list of who you think already is or should be a Charter
Member and then see if it is true [3] and then nominate them.  You can
do this whether you think that there are enough female nominees or
not.  You can also use this process for men.

While commenting on nominations, I'll share that the best nominations
provided a relevant summary and support it with some links.
Nominations in this form make it easy to evaluate and determine that
the nominee has the positive attributes sought in Charter Members [2].

Best regards, Eli

[0] http://www.verizon.com/powerfulanswers/inspirehermind/
[1] https://www.madewithcode.com/
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes
[3] http://www.osgeo.org/charter_members


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Cameron Shorter
 wrote:
> For those interested in gender bias, you might want to look at this "Like a
> girl" campaign, which questions the meaning that "Like a girl" has in our
> language, and suggests redefining it.
>
> http://m.dailylife.com.au/life-and-love/parenting-and-families/the-advertising-campaign-that-will-make-you-proud-to-run-like-a-girl-20140627-3ax9w.html?utm_source=social&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=june&eid=socialn:fac-13omn1676-edtrl-other:nnn-17/02/2014-edtrs_socialshare-all-nnn-nnn-vars-o
>
>
> On 25/07/2014 12:59 am, Jo Cook wrote:
>
> I totally agree with Maria. As a female member of OSGeo I don't really feel
> that my gender matters in the slightest. I'm far more concerned about a bias
> towards people from the US or Northern/Western Europe if we are trying to be
> truly global.
>
> Jo
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:55 PM, María Arias de Reyna
>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Jeff McKenna
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> It has been reported to me directly that there are not enough female
>>> nominations for Charter members.  I just want to bring this to the
>>> attention of the whole community.
>>>
>>> Thanks all,
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> On the other hand, no one should be nominated just because of their
>> gender. In the long run, it doesn't help increasing female numbers. (It
>> won't be the first time someone thinks I am where I am just because I am
>> female and not because I worked hard.)
>>
>> I'm sorry if I am bothering someone, but I am very picky with all this
>> stuff. It is the eternal discussion about not having enough female in tech
>> organizations. If we want to have more female on OsGeo, we should go to
>> school now to have them in OsGeo in a few years :)
>>
>> Until then, does it really matter? Are we doing things different? I know
>> it looks very cool to have half and half but, is it really important?
>>
>> Regards,
>> María.
>>
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>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Election 2014] Nomination for Andrea Antonello

[Eli Adam]

I second this nomination.  I know Andrea mostly through his work on
Geopaparazzi [0].  You can find more about Andrea's contributions
through his github account [1] or his involvement in email lists
[2][3]

Best regards, Eli

[0] https://geopaparazzi.github.io/geopaparazzi/
[1] https://github.com/moovida
[2] 
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[3] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/geopaparazzi-users

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
> Forwarding Andrea Antonello nomination by Luca Delucchi
>
> Best
> Jorge
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Luca Delucchi
> Date: 2014-07-24 8:44 GMT+02:00
> Subject: Andrea Antonello nomination
> To: c...@osgeo.org
>
> I would like to nominate Andrea Antonello as Charter Member.
> He is long time contributor to several OSGeo Java project.
>
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Andrea_Antonello
>
> --
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> http://www.osgeo.org
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Are you excited yet? FOSS4G Program details, Birds of a Feather, Call for Maps, and more!

[Eli Adam]

July 22, 2014
Portland, Oregon, USA

Excitement builds as FOSS4G 2014 approaches! Join us in Portland,
Oregon this September 8th - 13th. Half a dozen workshops have already
filled up -- register now [1] to secure your seat in pre-conference
workshops and your place at the conference.


** Call for maps

We invite contributions to the FOSS4G Map Gallery to build an exciting
and vibrant exhibit of the very best in mapping. This map gallery will
not only demonstrate the work of delegates but also act as a reference
point for the current state of mapping. We encourage all delegates to
share one example of their work and help us create a cartographic
record of the FOSS4G 2014 conference. Read the full call for maps [2]
and enter your map [3].



** Workshops and general sessions program

This year FOSS4G features more than 40 workshops [4], providing
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Proposed process for selecting OSGeo charter members

[Eli Adam]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:
> On 06/30/2014 12:07 AM, Daniel Kastl wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Charter members then vote (in/out) nominated charter members. This
>>> will
>>> be different to prior years, as we previously voted in a fixed number of
>>> members for a larger selection pool. (eg vote in 20 people from a list of
>>> 30). For this year, I propose we have a "Yes/No" vote. Ie, if we have a
>>> list of 30 candidates, we will ask all charter members to vote Yes or No
>>> against each candidate. Each candidate with greater than 50% of YES votes
>>> will be included as new charter members.
>>>
>>>
>> Well, I doubt some charter member would vote with "No" for candidates.
>> And what if you don't know a candidate well enough or not at all?
>>
>> So I'm not sure this is really a good idea. I believe the result will just
>> be that all candidates will be accepted ... as in previous years.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>
> Perhaps we should ask for a minimum of Yes votes on each candidate before
> acceptance. A fixed percentage of the Charter Members maybe?

If the goal is to have an inclusive charter membership, then some of
these voting methods would potentially better accommodate all nominees
based on an evaluation of
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes.

Even brought up that most OSGeo projects work on some form of
consensus.  50%+ is nothing like consensus.  I would support requiring
much less opposition for approval.  Perhaps no more than 5-10 "no"
votes.  For me, to vote "no" I will need to know the person very well
and know that they lack all or most of these,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Process#Positive_Attributes or I
will need to know that they actively think or behave counter to one or
more of those characteristics.

Angelos brought up the idea of a minimum level of support.  That could
be combined with a minimal level of opposition.

I know that the process needs proceed soon.

Eli

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposed process for selecting OSGeo charter members

[Eli Adam]

I like the idea of the new Charter Membership rules.


On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Jo Cook  wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> Regarding the new proposal for voting in charter members- it's slightly
> off topic, but I doubt all existing Local Chapter representatives have been
> voted in by at least 3 charter members. That sets the bar quite high for
> new chapters as well- under the new regime if they have no existing chapter
> members it might not be possible for them to a) elect a chapter
> representative and b) get them elected as a charter member. Maybe I've
> misunderstood this part of the new rules?
>

I think that a) is still possible.  The Local Chapter can do what they want
regarding their internal workings.  I agree that b) could be impossible in
the scenario you describe.

Local Chapters are approved by the Board including a representative who
then becomes an Officer of OSGeo.[0]  Graduated OSGeo projects are approved
by both the Incubation Committee and the Board.  I think in these cases
where the Chapter/Project has already been approved by the Board, removing
the requirement "where the voting community includes at least *3* OSGeo
charter members" is reasonable.  Jo, do you think that the "where the
voting community includes at least *3* OSGeo charter members"requirement
should be removed for Official Local Chapters and Graduated OSGeo Projects?

You might want to clarify how the Charter Membership is tied to the elected
position.  Let's say I volunteer to chair the Web Committee now, then
become a Charter Member, then quit the Web Committee and someone else takes
it over.  Am I still a Charter Member?  Is the person who takes it over?  I
think that Charter Membership is lifetime unless you repeatedly  don't vote
or ask to not be a Charter Member, so that might address the first
question.  For the second question about the person who takes over
chairing, would it wait until the next Charter membership election for it
to become effective?  Same scenario with Local Chapter Representatives.

Once these changes are approved, this page should perhaps be updated,
http://www.osgeo.org/membership

Eli

[0] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Local_Chapter_Guidelines#Chapter_Formation



>
> Jo
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Jorge Sanz  wrote:
>
>>
>> 2014-06-15 1:52 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter :
>>
>>>  Within 2 weeks we intend to start our annual process for selecting new
>>> OSGeo charter members.
>>>
>>> In previous years the Charter Member selection process has been a little
>>> contentious. We typically receive numerous nominations from high caliber
>>> members of our community, and insufficient positions to accept them all.
>>> This typically results in unnecessary disappointment and dissent.
>>>
>>> In response, the OSGeo board has agreed to trial tweaking the voting
>>> process. The aim is to automatically accept recognised OSGeo community
>>> leaders, while continuing with our existing process which attracts the many
>>> valuable community members who contribute in other ways. Community comments
>>> are encouraged, and will be considered over the next week.
>>>
>>
>>
>> No comments yet on this proposal on changing the Charter Members election
>> procedure, everything is OK?
>>
>>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Community voting open through May 5th

[Eli Adam]

Hi all, more exciting FOSS4G news, help us by voting and spreading the
news. Html version available online,
https://2014.foss4g.org/foss4g-community-voting-open-through-may-5th/

Eli

April 22, 2014
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Community voting open through May 5th

What presentations do you want to see at FOSS4G?  Now is the time to tell us!

The FOSS4G community at large can now read and score potential
presentations.  The conference committee will use the aggregate scores
from the community review process to help choose which presentations
to accept, and to assign presentations to appropriately sized rooms.

The community review process is an important part of creating a
conference that benefits and reflects the community. Your input is a
significant part of what makes FOSS4G a great conference. Note that
you do not need to be registered for the conference to vote. And
remember, all presentations will be available online, so even if you
are unable to attend, your vote matters.

You can vote now at: http://community-review.foss4g.org/.

Please complete your voting by May 5th.

Important Conference Dates
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* June 15th: Early bird registration ends
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Regular Session and Academic Track proposals due early next week (4/15)

[Eli Adam]

April 11, 2014
Portland, OR, USA

Regular Session and Academic Track proposals due

A reminder to all FOSS4G attendees - the proposal submission deadline
for both the Academic Track[1] and Regular Sessions[2] is next
Tuesday, April 15th. For the Regular Sessions, we strongly recommend
reviewing our advice[3] for successful proposals before submitting.

[1] https://2014.foss4g.org/calls-for-papers/academic-track-cfp
[2] https://2014.foss4g.org/calls-for-papers/cfp
[3] https://2014.foss4g.org/advice-on-writing-submissions

The community voting on the Regular Sessions will directly follow the
deadline, April 18th to 28th.

Travel Grant Announcement

We realize that traveling to and attending a conference can be
expensive, and that not everyone who uses or develops open source
software has provided funding to pay their way or the means to pay for
it themselves. To make sure that as many deserving people as possible
can attend FOSS4G, we're creating a travel grant program[4] with funds
to cover registration and travel costs. Watch for details coming soon.

[4] https://2014.foss4g.org/attending/travel-grants

One additional reminder: Early Bird Registration[5] is open!

[5] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/registration

 Important Conference Dates

See the full calendar for more details.
  * April 15th: Academic Paper/Presentation Proposals Due
  * June 15th: Early bird registration ends
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WebCom discussions

[Eli Adam]

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Alex Mandel  wrote:
> The translation tools Drupal 7+ look quite good. On the flipside there's
> much discussion of Pootle[1]

I think that udig and geopaparazzi switched to
https://www.transifex.com/ for translation.

Eli

>
> I was more thinking of splitting out the core site functions (Classic
> CMS with feeds) from some other components that are separate apps in a way.
>
> Anyways I'm meeting with Dave (my Drupal coworker) next week. If you
> have a good list of Apps/Functions/Services from the site that we can go
> through in planning and testing a move that would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
>
> [1] http://pootle.translatehouse.org/
>
> On 09/27/2013 01:52 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>> agreed - we should keep implementation options open at this stage, I'm
>> equally happy with Django and I'll try to help with other options if
>> they're chosen.
>>
>> I'll do some investigations into Drupal 8's multilingual support and see if
>> it supports the following requirement:
>> "We have to keep in mind that translation is being done by a growing bunch
>> of people who have little or no technical background. We need this to be
>> bullet proof and we need well defined processes on how to create
>> translations and whether or how to translate news / community spotlights,
>> etc." [1]
>>
>> I'll report back on the WebCom list
>>
>> [1] http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/202
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Alex Mandel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> That plan is I think the same conclusion I had reached. That some parts
>>> of the site simply need to be recoded, and I would open that it does not
>>> necessarily have to be drupal if we have experts in other platforms
>>> willing to jump in, things like the Service directory can easily be
>>> django or other platforms heavily used in the community.
>>>
>>> Our current goal, is to move the current site as is if possible over to
>>> the OSUOSL hosted machines. We hit a snag in PHP being too new for the
>>> older drupal and it broke some stuff. www.osgeo2.org  I think it is.
>>> If we can pull that off it would allow us to retire osgeo1 which is
>>> somewhat expensive to run, and would potentially free up funds to put
>>> towards re-coding of the site.
>>>
>>> FYI, if you feel Webcom needs a project management tool, how about a
>>> Trac instance?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/27/2013 03:31 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:
 Thanks Alex, Frank. I'm happy to leave the project management tools
 (basecamp) alone and lean more on SAC.  I'm also keen to make extensive
>>> use
 of the wiki pages and to fill in missing documentation as we go.

 Looking through our custom Drupal modules I believe that we're unlikely
>>> to
 find an upgrade path that will work - I suspect we're looking at a
>>> detailed
 investigation of the functionality of the current site, followed by a
 rebuild in Drupal 8 and automating the migration of content across.  We
>>> can
 have several attempts at this in a development environment before
 performing live migration tests and then making the decision to move
>>> across
 to the new site when all of the requirements have been met.  Alex - I'm
 very interested in hearing the thoughts of your Drupal colleague.  If he
 agrees with this route then I think we should get started and we can use
 WebCom to report regular progress on the specifics.





 On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Alex Mandel <
>>> tech_...@wildintellect.com>wrote:

> On 09/26/2013 02:10 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Alex Mandel <
>>> tech_...@wildintellect.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/26/2013 05:26 AM, Ian Edwards wrote:
 To make more concrete progress on the larger issues facing WebCom I'd
>>> like
 to start some closed discussions.

 If you have experience with the admin of any of the OSGeo
> infrastructure
 then please join us.  We'll report back progress on the open WebCom
>>> mailing
 list. Sensitive information about the systems will be thoroughly
>>> documented
 and tested and will become a closed resource for the team moving
>>> forwards.

 Please reply off list and I'll add you to the discussion.

 Ian


>>>
>>> Webcom to my knowledge has been inactive for several years, are you
>>> the
>>> new Chair? The infrastructure you refer to has all been handled by
>>> members of the System Administration committee. Everything except
>>> security information (passwords) is publicly on the OSGeo Wiki if
>>> someone has taken the time to write it up.
>>>
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> Webcom still notionally exists even if it is somewhat moribund.
>>
>> Ian has agreed to assist with the migration of Drupal, aspects of which
>> touch on SAC.
>>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anymore Contributions for the OSGeo Journal Volume 12?

[Eli Adam]

PDX will also be completing their report for inclusion.

Eli

On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Yves Jacolin  wrote:
> Landon,
>
> Does this catégory is linked to Volume 12?
>
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:Reports_2012
>
> Y.
> Le mardi 2 avril 2013 16:38:07 Landon Blake a écrit :
>> Today I finally started doing the real work of getting Volume 12 of the
>> OSGeo Journal published. I've got, or will soon get, annual report items
>> from the following:
>>
>> - Korean Chapter
>> - Italian Chapter
>> - California Chapter
>> - United Kingdom Chapter
>> - Summer of Code Committee
>> - Incubation Committee
>>
>> I would like to try to publish by the end of this April, which will be a
>> month behind my goal. Let me know if you can submit an annual report for
>> your chapter or software project.
>>
>> I've got an inteview lined up for Volume 12, but I'm also looking for:
>>
>> A software project that would be willing to help me with project spotlight
>> article.
>> A case study of an organization that successfully applied open source
>> geospatial software.
>>
>> Please let me know if you can help with either of those items.
>>
>> Thanks so much for your support!
>>
>> Landon
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

[Eli Adam]

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Fawcett, David (MPCA)
 wrote:
> I am completely with Howard on this.  +1

Same here, +1

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Sol_Katz_Award#Process
In past years, it seemed that only the rather small selection
committee has known who did not win the Sol Katz award.  In fact, did
all nominees even know they were nominated?  (Presumably the winner
was contacted in advance to coordinate their presence at the award
ceremony and perhaps give them a slight notice to prepare something to
say.)

Eli

>
> -Original Message-
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Howard Butler
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:15 AM
> To: Richard Greenwood
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was 
> Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Richard Greenwood  
> wrote:
>
>> I agree that this is the first year that nominations have been
>> publicly discussed and it is a departure from previous years. I
>> followed Jeff's lead when I nominated Chris.
>>
>> But hey, we're an open community, I think it's even in the name
>> somewhere. And spreading a little recognition around to hard working
>> members of our community surely doesn't hurt.
>
> I disagree. The history of the award has been a cloistered deliberation of 
> private nominations. The award is not a political exercise, or at least it 
> hasn't been to this point, and public nominations tip things toward the 
> lobbying direction. Every open source contributor wouldn't mind an award in 
> the field of excellence, and every contributor deserves a pat on the back or 
> two.
>
> Open nominations opens up a more than few cans of worms:
>
> - I won't say some stuff about a person in a public nomination that I would 
> in a private one. First off, I don't want to embarrass them, as some people 
> are embarrassed by public fawning.
>
> - Not every activity and action needs to be billboarded. If you look at the 
> list of past winners, a common trait they all share is they all have kept 
> their heads down and done a lot for the community as whole without regard to 
> recognition.
>
> - I might not want everyone to know who I'm nominating.
>
> - Are we voting on the award? Lobbying the committee? What does a public 
> nomination achieve other than to provide a (biased) public attaboy? There are 
> plenty of opportunities for those that do not have to be conflated with a 
> nomination process.
>
> The award is selected by an exclusive group of individuals, and this act 
> makes it an exclusive award. The Oscar or Peabody or Pulitzer of open source 
> GIS is much more interesting than the People's Choice. Let's keep it that way.
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Convert a scanned map to vector format

[Eli Adam]

There is also gdal_polygonize and the reverse gdal_rasterize.  I've
had best success with these for large contiguous areas of the same
value, like land cover/class.

http://gdal.org/gdal_polygonize.html
http://gdal.org/gdal_rasterize.html

Regards, Eli


On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Zhengfan Lin  wrote:
> +1 for this. I'm also working on a huge digitalizing project. Need some
> handy tools.
>
> I've been searching for vectorizing/digitalizing tools for some time. Was
> about to post a similar mail to this list, but Silva got ahead of me. :-)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Zhengfan Lin
>
> On Aug 10, 2012 4:26 PM, "mrmmsilva"  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I need suggestions for software open source that allows me to convert a
>> scanned map to vector format.
>>
>> thank you very much.
>>
>>
>>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo-PDX local chapter formation announcement (Oregon, United States)

[Eli Adam]

To all, especially those in the Pacific Northwest region,

The local Open Source GIS group that meets in Portland is turning 4
years old. We are finally officially becoming an OSGeo Local Chapter
after being an unofficial chapter for years. We are a geographically
based chapter welcoming members from all of Oregon and small parts of
Southwestern Washington. We meet once a month in Portland (usually not
November or December) on the 3rd Wednesday of every month. Once a year
we put on an unconference
(http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/PDX-OSGEO#2011_Unconference) We often
coordinate with CUGOS, http://cugos.org/, the local chapter to the the
North. We are also also recognized as an ORURISA Special Interest
Group (http://orurisa.org/PDXOSGIS). Check us out on the wiki,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/PDX-OSGEO or join our email list
http://groups.google.com/group/pdx-osgis

If you are nearby or traveling here, check us out!

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Board] OSGeo Elections

[Eli Adam]

I sent this to Arnulf privately and he has suggested I share it (it
includes some less relevant parts).  The most relevant part: it is
especially important that everyone can and should ask questions all
the time; this is the process by which OSGeo belongs to everyone.  If
you do or don't like something that the Board of Directors is doing,
you should certainly feel free to share that on the Board or Discuss
list.

What's the Board doing anyway?  Find out here,
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/ or sign up for the list
yourself.  Also, agendas, notes, and other details here,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board

Thanks to Arnulf for contributing to the Board for six (not Seven?) years.

Best Regards, Eli

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf)  wrote:
> Eli,
> thanks for your kind words. If I got this right this mail went to me
> personally only - but what you say is also important for the rest of the
> board and the community. So please feel free to re-post or forward to
> the board or discuss list. You clarify some things I was short on and
> point out important aspects which would be good to spread through the
> broader lists, especially that you want to make sure that everyone can
> and should ask questions all the time. Flattening the apparent(?)
> opinion hierarchy within OSGeo is what we should be watching out for in
> coming years. Six years into existence stabilizes things - which is good
> in some aspects but dangerous for continuous innovation and agility.
>
> Thanks,
> Arnulf
>
>
> On 05/18/2012 07:20 AM, Eli Adam wrote:
>> Arnulf,
>>
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>> I have been on the board for six consecutive years which is a long time
>>> for an organization that is six years old. Sort of the whole life. :-)
>>> It was a great pleasure working with you and making OSGeo what it is
>>> now. Instead of dropping out completely I wish to continue serving OSGeo
>>> in my best capacities (if I got them right) as lateral thinker and
>>> lowest troll [0] but I would like to pass on the burden of being a
>>> director on the OSGeo Board.
>>
>> Thanks for serving and providing some historical continuity and
>> institutional memory over the long haul.  I'm sure that valuable
>> resource will continue to be an important contribution.  Hopefully the
>> number of hours you dedicate can decrease slightly freeing you up for
>> other activities.
>>
>> By definition of LT, aren't you defacto wrong in your decision?  I
>> should certainly know better than to engage you in some amorphous open
>> ended discussion, please just take note of an attempt at humor and
>> appreciate that without engaging :).
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Being president was a great experience and I have always felt welcomed
>>> and supported in this role, both by the board and OSGeo members and also
>>> by those who invited me. I will obviously complete all tasks which I
>>> have accepted in my role as president after my term ends unless the new
>>> president is keen on taking them over right away. For the next
>>> transition it might be a good idea to introduce the concept of a
>>> 'president elect' in order to avoid a void during transition.
>>>
>>> There are other reasons which make me take this decision. One is a
>>> nagging feeling that many in the community object to many (if not all)
>>> strategic decisions we took as a board. This is probably inevitable
>>> given the diversity of interests represented through OSGeo - but
>>> nonetheless it is a strain. In summary it feels like I am a bit worn
>>> out. And I am actually looking forward to do some work which for a
>>> change is honored by monetary compensation.
>>
>> As someone who has publicly rigorously questioned the Board on
>> strategic decisions, I feel compelled to mention that even then and
>> now I explicitly support the Board in making the decisions they see
>> fit.  I just reserve the right to ask as many questions as I want.
>> Through that, I have actually come to think that they were the correct
>> (and probably only) decisions to make.  So now there are only ('many'
>> -1) objecting.  I think that you may be over estimating the number of
>> people objecting but you are also probably more tuned in than I am.
>>
>>>
>>> It took me a lot of listening to friends and thinking on my own to
>>> arrive at this point but it seems to be the right thing to do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my new role as outgoing director I would be happy to be CRO for the
>>&

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Report from the Board Meeting in Seattle

[Eli Adam]

> take part but seven of nine directors still were a good turn out given

I found this number listing funny (and factual).

Bests, Eli
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Re: RE : [OSGeo-Discuss] Distracting discussions of discussing [was:] What is North America?

[Eli Adam]

Mark,

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Mark Lucas  wrote:
> Daniel,
> There is no disagreement that it would be good to coordinate and work with
> other local chapters - that is certainly in our thinking.
> To keep it simple and focused, we are not proposing any formal or implied
> hierarchy between local chapters and the region.  Everyone is free to
> contribute in the best way they see fit.

Sounds interesting!  To promote and encourage collaboration, you might
want to also send this email to potential collaborating Local Chapters
listed here, http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Local_Chapters and here,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Local_Chapters.  I can forward to the
PDX-OSGeo one if you'd like.  Even without a formal relationship, you
may at least want widespread awareness in the local chapters.  This
would certainly help in the case of some of the evaluation criteria
set out here, 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Local_Chapter_Guidelines#Chapter_Formation
, specifically, Does the mandate (geographically or linguistically)
conflict with other existing chapters or chapters-in-formation?

The in-formation PDX-OSGeo chapter even ran geographic conflict by
CUGOS at one of their meetings.
http://groups.google.com/group/cugos/browse_thread/thread/443eff963f67ad4b/a74acc750b16d012?lnk=gst&q=PDX#a74acc750b16d012

The in-formation PDX-OSGeo chapter has done a spring unconference for
several years.  You can see some of those details here,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Pdx#2011_Unconference  Many members are
also involved with WhereCampPDX which is a similar event in the fall,
http://www.wherecamppdx.org/  Both are fairly local/regional
(tri-state area max, not national or continental).

> I did ping several local chapters, but I realize that wasn't comprehensive.
>  We broadcast our intentions on the discuss list, the board list, and then
> set up communications through the northamerica list documenting on the wiki.
> I look forward to working with anyone who wants to participate and
> contribute.

I've noticed this, but I also know that local chapters have many
members not signed up on these lists.

Bests, Eli

> Mark
>
> On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
>
> On 11-11-24 04:50 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote:
>
> But to answer your question.. the aim is to run a conference, first round in
> the USA.  Other than working alongside other chapters (and obviously
> inviting them to partner on the event) there is no proposed formal
> connection between them - except of course being under the OSGeo banner
> together :)
>
>
> I am of the opinion that the NA Chapter should have a closer relationship to
> the other local chapters in this territory, but I do not have the time to
> explain and argue those points.
>
> I write this as an active member of the Quebec local Chapter that falls in
> this territory and personally I'm disappointed that the local chapters were
> never ping'd for their opinion or interest in being involved other than some
> notes sent through this list. I thought of a NA chapter as well before and
> discussed the idea with several people in the last years but it was a
> different concept: I am of the opinion that a NA chapter would be stronger
> with support from all the local chapters in the territory.
>
> Oh, did I just say that I didn't have time for this? Sorry, I shut up...
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSs4G + SoTM

[Eli Adam]

Frans,

FOSS4G 2012 is in Beijing, China.

SOTM not yet decided (at least according to this,
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sotm)

Eli

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Frans Thamura  wrote:
> ok -ok :)
> thx for the reply..
> because i just got a lot of "OSM" in last FOSS4G Tokyo..
> and got the SoTM name there...
> will next year, also FOSS4G with SotM again..
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Tyler Mitchell  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Frans,
>> It seemed to be a coincidence that SOTM also chose the same
>> location that FOSS4G had planned for.  Both groups helped
>> advertise both events, but there was no more collaboration
>> beyond that really.  Just friends meeting friends and staying
>> longer in Denver :)
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Tyler
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2011-11-16, at 3:32 PM, Frans Thamura wrote:
>>
>> > hi all
>> >
>> > after see FOSS4G Tokyo
>> >
>> > I am planning to create FOSS4G Indonesia...
>> >
>> > but i see in denver, there are SoTM..
>> >
>> > i see OSM is using Mapnik, and it is not part of OSGeo..
>> >
>> > any glue all...
>> >
>> > what is relation between SoTM with FOSS4G
>> >
>> > because held in same day
>> > --
>> > Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
>> > Chief of Advisory
>> > Meruvian.
>> > Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
>> >
>> > Mobile: +628557888699
>> > Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id)
>> >
>> > FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian
>> > TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian
>> > Website: http://www.meruvian.org
>> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] nominating Eli Adam

[Eli Adam]

Percy,

Thanks for the nomination.  Really quite an honor to be listed with
this year's great nominees.

To clarify one point, I would agree that I do a lot of marketing
(promoting OSGeo widely, often, and extensively) however I don't do
any Marketing (http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing) to speak of.  A
perhaps important distinction for those making substantial
contributions to the Marketing Committee, the results of which are
widely enjoyed.

Eli

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:54 AM, David Percy  wrote:
> I'd like to nominate Eli Adam to be a charter member. Eli has been
> active in the OSGEO in many ways, including the Journal, Marketing,
> and a few others that I wasn't even aware of until recently.
>
> He has been absolutely instrumental in getting our local chapter,
> PDX-OSGEO (Oregon, SW-Washington area) into incubation status at
> OSGEO, and generally plays a leadership role.
>
> He also actively participates in several open source gis projects, and
> works for municipal government bringing open source solutions as often
> as possible/practical.
>
> Cheers,
> Percy
>
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> GIS Instructor
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Report from the OSGeo Board meeting

[Eli Adam]

I thank the Board and all others for discussing this and encourage others to 
join in.  It sounds like we will all have plenty of opportunity to contribute 
to the OSGeo vision and tasks.  

Arnulf asked for clarification on something that I wrote, 

>> From paying attention to Board traffic, it was apparent that OSGeo is
>> maturing as an organization and would need to make changes and I
>> suppose that I didn't really get that involved since no changes are
>> easier to react to than significant changes.  It seems that changes
>> like this will require a more clear articulation of a plan than
>> keeping everything the same (which really didn't require any
>> articulation).  
> 
> True. Do you want to say that one good thing of this move was to
> potentially shock the community into action?
> 
>> Sorry for holding you to a higher standard for making
>> changes.
> 
> Not sure what this exactly means, maybe you can explain.

What I meant by this was that when the Board takes little or no major action I 
require no justification at all.  However, when the Board does take some major 
action, then I give them 20 questions.  I recognize that it is not fair to hold 
the Board to a higher standard just because they are making major decisions.  I 
still wanted the questions answered so I asked the questions anyway even 
knowing that it was not necessarily fair.  Since I knowingly did something that 
I thought was not necessarily fair, I apologized.  And once again, thanks to 
the Board and others for discussing this.  

Best Regards, Eli


>>> On 9/21/2011 at 8:10 AM, in message
<8302e622-d0e2-4e4d-aade-1e6797399...@me.com>, Mark Lucas 
wrote:
> Michael's response resonates with me the most so I'll start there (included 
> below).
> 
> I was against this decision and was unsuccessful at convincing others on the 
> board to come around to my point of view.  As the votes came around the table 
> it was obvious the decision had been made - I basically abstained with a 0 
> vote. 
> 
> I feel very strongly that we need an ED to interface with the outside world 
> and stay on top of the day to day operations.  I was on the board when we 
> first established the ED position and secured foundation funding through 
> annual sponsors.  Unfortunately, we have not been able to sustain the annual 
> sponsorship level.  Had we been able to maintain or advance sponsorship we 
> might not be having this conversation.  
> 
> I, and the board, have the utmost respect for Tyler and what he has 
> contributed to our organization.  The professionalism that he has shown since 
> this decision came out of the board should serve as an example to us all.
> 
> In my mind, underlying all of these discussions is financial security and 
> growth.  We need to focus on best use of our available financial resources 
> and we need to grow so we can do more.  We all want to spread out our 
> financial risk so we are not betting the organization on the success of one 
> annual conference.  We want to reach new markets, but we worry if the 
> conference will be a financial success when we go to new uncharted regions.  
> We have begun to discuss regional conferences in additional to the annual 
> international one.
> 
> I believe we can all agree that in terms of development and projects for OSS 
> Geo we are leading the world.
> 
> Where I believe there is much room for improvement is on the business and 
> government side.
> 
> I have been in many one on one discussions with members that feel the OSGeo 
> lacks focus in this area.  Most potential sponsors are going to perform a 
> return on investment (ROI)  before contributing.  As the corporate and 
> government worlds continue to shift towards open source implementations I 
> believe we can present a compelling ROI for strategic sponsorship of OSGeo.  
> I was able to convince RadiantBlue's management to become a platinum sponsor 
> of foss4g based on the shift we are seeing in the government and my case that 
> OSGeo was a world class organization.  I'm therefore more than a little 
> concerned that we don't have core staff. 
> 
> We need to have discussions on where we want to go as an organization.  Do 
> we continue as a federation of projects and primarily just focus on 
> development?  I believe this is our core asset, but think we need to augment 
> it with a focus on business models and help people make livings following our 
> philosophy.
> 
> Finally, I think we have an enormous amount of potential and talent in our 
> organization and on the board.  I think you all can imagine that this 
> decision was a very difficult one.  We are all working together to secure the 
> future for the organization.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 21, 2011, at 3:59 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
> 
>> Arnulf and Frank have already spoken up, and I think they've captured the
>> sentiment of Sunday's board decision well.
>> 
>> To emphasize three points, if I may:
>> 
>> * Our foundation has been financiall

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] designing databases,organizing data formats to work with open source and proprie

[Eli Adam]

Karsten, 

  I've not tried it myself, but this Q&A indicates that with 10.1 you can 
read directly from PostGIS.  Although not entirely clear, simple editing may be 
available as well but not "complex spatial data and transactions ... ( i.e., 
topology, rasters, networks, replication, and archiving)."

http://events.esri.com/uc/QandA/index.cfm?fuseaction=answer&conferenceId=DD02CFE7-1422-2418-7F271831F47A7A31&questionId=3949

Depending on particulars, PostGIS data in ESRI products may be totally trivial. 
 I'm sure we'll hear from you as you find out.  

Best Regards, Eli



>>> On 8/10/2011 at 10:42 AM, in message
, "karsten vennemann"
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> in the near future I will have the opportunity to help design databases, 
> decide on data formats (files data) for an international organization that 
> wishes to be able to use both proprietary and open source based systems, 
> mostly in web mapping solution but also possibly on the desktop. The task 
> will be to design and organize the data stores in a way that both types of 
> systems - open source (e.g. MapServer, OpenLayers) and proprietary systems 
> (ESRI Arc Server) can use them well, and along the way to try to avoid too 
> much data duplication (having to store data in multiple formats just to make 
> them accessible) .
>  
> This sounds to like a exiting & useful, fun task, but given the limitations 
> of both systems (regarding input data that might not work out of the box- 
> namely file Geodatabases in open source solutions, and PostGIS data in ESRI 
> products) might be not totally trivial ;)
>  
> I was wondering if anybody has done work on this, has implemented systems 
> facing the same issues or knows of projects or reports that have been dealing 
> with similar issues. Also I anybody has comments about what data storage 
> solution you would recommend and comments about the pro and cons of certain 
> storage designs please send it to the list.
> Looking forward to hear what other have come up with.
> Thanks a lot
>  
> Cheers
> Karsten
> 
> Karsten Vennemann
> Principal
> 
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> USA 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Are there proposed ways to raise funds forOSGeoprojects?

[Eli Adam]

PostGIS Raster seems to be doing pooled funding here:
http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki/WKTRaster/PlanningAndFunding

I don't know how well the effort has been promoted and publicized, I just 
learned about it from a recent email on the PostGIS list:
http://postgis.refractions.net/pipermail/postgis-users/2011-June/029791.html

Eli

>>> Robert Hollingsworth  06/04/11 9:32 AM >>>
I've been discussing variations on an idea for a while with various people:

Form pools of users around specific application functionality that the users 
share 
a need for.  They team up with developers to collaboratively specify and 
develop 
software.  The users in the pool contribute a fraction of the total cost of the 
project.

It's not a radically different model from what happens in open source 
development all the time, but the user sees a more direct benefit resulting 
from 
their financial contribution: "I'm spending US$1000.00 as my share of extending 
so-and-so project with the such-and-such capability I need right now."  This 
seems like a stronger funding recruitment than "I'm contributing US$1000.00 to 
project so-and-so, and I hope the such-and-such capability I need shows up 
soon."  And definitely more attractive than "I'm footing the entire cost of 
US$22,000.00 to hire consultants to extend project so-and-so with the 
such-and-such capability I need."

>From a developer's perspective, this also seems like a natural progression on 
>the 
continuum that begins with the traditional closed-source, license-driven 
"develop-
once-sell-many" model.  From my own perspective, I'd certainly enjoy repeatedly 
being paid to create essentially the same $22,000.00 product for multiple 
users, 
but realize it's better to have them collectively pay me $22,000.00 ONCE for 
something they all use, than to have NONE of them pay me anything because 
they cannot afford to individually finance the entire project.

Having said all that, I can think of many reasons why this type of funding 
structure would be difficult to set up and maintain.  I may elaborate on these 
in a 
followup message, but in the meantime I'd like to hear what others think about 
this kind of approach.

Robert H.

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generates ridiculously long auto line wraps when I post to OSGeo mail lists, 
which is what I think I have observed before when I don't manually insert line 
breaks.  If this does NOT generate a ridiculously long message which requires 
horizontal scroll to be able to read each line, then I apologize for this 
ridiculously long test paragraph! ***

Duarte,

 I agree with you and have similar ideas.  I just recently sent an email 
similar (cites National Public Radio and Wikipedia examples) to these ideas to 
the Board.  http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-June/003816.html  The 
premise of my idea is that there are numerous agencies and companies that have 
employees with minor budgetary authority to spend ~$500 on software and these 
individuals are often using OSGeo projects and getting assistance using these 
OSGeo projects on the email lists and IRC.  It makes sense that these people 
might be involved in sponsorship.  What do others think?

 Although not heavily promoted, OSGeo and some projects can accept money 
through OSGeo here, http://www.osgeo.org/sponsorship/opportunities  Some have 
$500 minimums.  

 Here is the content of that email:

Board, 

I started this email about six months ago and wanted to keep refining it and 
adding bits, but, it seems to be the opportune time to send it since it is a 
current topic for the Board (and it is already far too long - perhaps I should 
have spend more time removing not adding).  

I have some ideas pertaining to fundraising that I did not find previously 
discussed on the board or fundraising email lists.  Searching the wiki and 
board minutes didn't turn up this discussion either.  Perhaps these ideas have 
already been discussed and discarded in other venues.  I think that OSGEO 
projects could get substantial funds from many corporate and agency users in 
$500-$2,000 increments on an annual basis.  

I am thinking of a fundraiser very similar to the National Public Radio style 
in the States.  That is that for one week instead of providing high quality, 
commercial free, respected news and music, they focus at least 50% of the time 
on fundraising.  In addition to changing the focus to fundraising they use all 
methods possible to fundraise.  The methods seem almost extreme.  It verges on 
berating, guilt, coercion, and other less dignified methods.  Here are some 
clips that highlight some of these methods although mixed with humor, 
http://www.vpr.net/episode/49677/  If you have never listened to a NPR style 
fundraiser, I would suggest listening to one (although I also suggest listening 
to the station for a week without fundraiser to experience some of the more 
positive aspects of NPR).  There s

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Are there proposed ways to raise funds for OSGeoprojects?

[Eli Adam]

Duarte,

 I agree with you and have similar ideas.  I just recently sent an email 
similar (cites National Public Radio and Wikipedia examples) to these ideas to 
the Board.  http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-June/003816.html  The 
premise of my idea is that there are numerous agencies and companies that have 
employees with minor budgetary authority to spend ~$500 on software and these 
individuals are often using OSGeo projects and getting assistance using these 
OSGeo projects on the email lists and IRC.  It makes sense that these people 
might be involved in sponsorship.  What do others think?

 Although not heavily promoted, OSGeo and some projects can accept money 
through OSGeo here, http://www.osgeo.org/sponsorship/opportunities  Some have 
$500 minimums.  

 Here is the content of that email:

Board, 

I started this email about six months ago and wanted to keep refining it and 
adding bits, but, it seems to be the opportune time to send it since it is a 
current topic for the Board (and it is already far too long - perhaps I should 
have spend more time removing not adding).  

I have some ideas pertaining to fundraising that I did not find previously 
discussed on the board or fundraising email lists.  Searching the wiki and 
board minutes didn't turn up this discussion either.  Perhaps these ideas have 
already been discussed and discarded in other venues.  I think that OSGEO 
projects could get substantial funds from many corporate and agency users in 
$500-$2,000 increments on an annual basis.  

I am thinking of a fundraiser very similar to the National Public Radio style 
in the States.  That is that for one week instead of providing high quality, 
commercial free, respected news and music, they focus at least 50% of the time 
on fundraising.  In addition to changing the focus to fundraising they use all 
methods possible to fundraise.  The methods seem almost extreme.  It verges on 
berating, guilt, coercion, and other less dignified methods.  Here are some 
clips that highlight some of these methods although mixed with humor, 
http://www.vpr.net/episode/49677/  If you have never listened to a NPR style 
fundraiser, I would suggest listening to one (although I also suggest listening 
to the station for a week without fundraiser to experience some of the more 
positive aspects of NPR).  There should be one on internet radio currently, 
perhaps someone can send out a link when their local station is fundraising.  
In all the fundraising the focus is that NPR provides unique, high quality, 
commercial free, respected news and music and that you, yes you, can help 
provide that unique, high quality, commercial free, respected news and music 
that you and others value so much.  This is impressed upon you in that familiar 
authoritative NPR voice which you have come to trust and respect over the 
years.  

NPR has the benefit that people listen to the radio for extended periods of 
time at home, at work, and in the car going places.  To adopt that approach to 
OSGeo, would be project mailing lists, IRC channels, websites, and other 
communication methods.  From the mailing lists, it is clear that most users 
regard OSGeo developers very highly.  If these respected developers asked for 
$500 support from users once a year, I think that many would respond.  
Developers routinely add new formats, functions, fix bugs, answer 10 of 
thousands of questions through email and IRC, and otherwise are very responsive 
to the users.  If these developers spent one week a year asking for support and 
boasting their project's accomplishments, users would respond.  Following in 
the NPR style, some large donor could offer a limited time match.  Company X 
will match your donation, thus doubling it, up to $1,500 if you donate in the 
next 24 hours.  We need you to donate to help us get that $1,500. 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/How_Can_I_Help websites, planet.osgeo.org, personal 
blogs, developer signatures used on the email list and everything else would 
need to be temporarily changed to focus on fundraising.  Just as NPR focuses on 
"unique, high quality, commercial free, respected news and music and that you, 
yes you, can help provide that unique, high quality, commercial free, respected 
news and music that you and others value so much"  I think that OSGEO and 
Projects can focus on the same thing just replacing "news and music" with 
"Geospatial software and support"  

I think that this would only work if it were really supported and done by 
developers.  A developer who has helped you individually, answered 10's of 
1,000's of questions, fixed bugs for you, added new functionality, etc is far 
more persuasive than someone who might volunteer just for fundraiser (me) or 
even Tyler.  

This could be an opportunity to have people sign themselves up as OSGeo members 
too.  Perhaps donations could include 'premiums' like a shirt and coffee mug.  

I think that for the States, a good time