[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G NA 2016 Report
I had the pleasure of serving as the OSGeo representative for the 2016 FOSS4G NA conference selection and planning. I thought the team did an excellent job in selecting, planning and running the conference. The team made the decision to not pursue a 2017 NA conference so as not to compete for resources with the OSGeo international conference. Our efforts will focus on 2018 planning and selection for the next NA regional conference. On a personal note I was initially concerned about how the relationship with Location Tech and OSGeo would evolve. Our teaming has resulted in yet another successful conference that I believe plays to the strengths of both organizations. I was very pleased with the openness and collaboration that I witnessed. — Mark The synopsis from Andrea Ross is included below: FOSS4G NA 2016 Synopsis (please feel free to re-use this data) The conference ran from May 2-5, at the Raleigh Convention Center, in Raleigh North Carolina. The code sprint & unconference ran May 6 & 7 at Red Hat’s headquarters, a few blocks from the convention center. A Tour of the NCSU OSGeo Research and Education lab took place on May 6th. The conference featured 1 day of workshops, 3 days of sessions, a code sprint, an unconference, and social events every night. There were 93 full length (35 minute) sessions, 36 short length (15 minute) sessions, 10 workshops, and 3 keynotes. This represented an increase in full length. The rooms were generally always near full or slightly overflowing for particularly popular talks, despite them being big rooms. The conference grew by 33% . There were 558 attendees. This level of increase is very positive, when so many other conferences are in decline. Like 2015’s team, 50% of the 2016 committee were women. Also like 2015, a significant proportion of speakers and attendees were women (in the 30% range), which is great to see. 23 people were at the conference who wouldn't have otherwise been without the financial support we gave them. From the attendee survey, people were clearly thrilled about the conference... 99% positive feedback. (n=102). The one negative response said they were disappointed there was no lunch served. We’re not sure how they missed it! The venue, the strong program, and the positive & supportive atmosphere were the things people commented (positively) on most. People loved the keynotes, and especially Tamar Cohen's entitled Extreme Mapping. The video recordings of sessions are being uploaded to Youtube, with dozens up, and more each day. 90% of sponsors rated the value excellent. 10% rated it very good. The layout of the conference was especially appreciated as it meant plenty of traffic for sponsors at all times. This year’s conference was produced by Andrea Ross and the team at the Eclipse Foundation, the same as 2015. Sarah Cordivano served as Community Chair. Rob Emanuele was Program Committee Chair, repeating the same role he performed in 2015. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposed process for selecting OSGeo charter members
Howard, I’ve wanted membership dues to happen for a long time, but haven’t been able to express it as eloquently or as persuasively as you just did. Mark On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Howard Butler how...@hobu.co wrote: On Jun 20, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Paul, Dimitris and Peter for your thoughts. Comments inline. On 20/06/2014 4:31 am, Paul Ramsey wrote: http://www.aag.org/cs/membership/individual_membership http://www.aag.org/cs/membership/individual_membership/dues Both simpler, and better for the bottom line of OSGeo, if you want to be a member, sign up as a member, collect your t-shirt, see you @ foss4g. Yes Paul, pay for membership is simple, but I'd argue that the value of OSGeo and OSGeo communities is the volunteer time we contribute, and pay membership wouldn't capture that. This property is the nature of a professional organization, which in my opinion, OSGeo clearly is. There are a number of strong reasons why small annual fees for membership are very attractive. The first is there's no struggling with members who've dropped off, haven't voted, are no longer participating. Second, anyone who wants to associate themselves can simply do so by paying dues. Finally, a consistent, if small, operating revenue. The voting process has been an ad-hoc affair since the beginnings of the organization. Every year it the rules are tweaked. Every year members who've dropped off need to be nagged. Every year we end up just taking everyone who's nominated anyway. It's a lot of overhead and volunteer cost for very little gain. It is certain there are people who wish to be professionally associated with OSGeo who are unable to become members because they haven't generated enough public profile to be nominated. You can't nominate yourself. It's a chicken and egg problem that simply dissolves with paid-but-small membership dues. OSGeo's main revenue stream is the FOSS4G conference. It is an event run on the backs of local chapter volunteers. Please correct me otherwise, but I do not think any local chapter who has hosted FOSS4G has ever put in a proposal to host it again. This well may eventually run dry. Or, it may run dry for a year or two. 80-100k/year (~$50-70/year * 1500 persons) of membership dues is plenty to keep the lights on through droughts and still allow the organization to move forward. At the inception of the organization, a driving factor toward our current membership structure is because OSGeo is a volunteer organization, it shouldn't require members to pay money. I think this is misguided. Every other professional organization of which I'm a member requires membership dues. As an IRS classification, a professional organization has a clear path forward. I am a professional open source Geo/GIS software developer. I want to belong to a professional organization that represents me. I would be happy to pay some nominal membership dues that a) signify my membership, b) provide financial buffer for the organization to achieve its mission, and 3) clearly signal what the rules are to become a member. My $0.02. Howard ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Member Nominations starting
I will not be standing for re-election, but will continue to support where I can, when a I am needed. Mark http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2013#Board_Election indicates that Peter Batty, Michael Gerlek, Mark Lucas and Jáchym Čepický are at the end of their term. It would be great if they could confirm whether they are interested in standing for re-election for another term. Daniel On 13-08-05 8:20 AM, Arnulf Christl wrote: Dear OSGeo, the nominations for the OSGeo Board of Directors has started. Please take a minute to understand what the board actually does: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Director_Responsibilities A director should plan to spend several hours a week on OSGeo business in order to do a good job. The current board members will know best. Maybe you could please also look over this page and add things that are on your agenda but are not well reflected on this Wiki page. To nominate a candidate for the board please first confirm with the person that they would like to stand for election as a Board member. Then send an email to c...@osgeo.org by 23:59 (your time zone) on Tuesday 20 August 2013 consisting of the name, current country of residence and a paragraph describing why you think this person would make a good Board member. Remember that only Charter Members are eligible for a seat on the Board and for voting but that *anybody* can *nominate* a board member. Thank you. Best regards, Your Chief Returning Officers, Michael and Arnulf -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Personal matters
Unfortunately, my wife of 37 years passed away, unexpectedly, a couple of weeks ago. As you can imagine, I've been surrounded by friends and family since that time. I remain very positive about life and am grateful for the life that we had together. I think you will all understand that I have to take care of many obligations and I won't be able to attend tomorrow's board meeting. I will re-engage shortly and will be at both FOSS4g NA and also in London, I also plan on supporting FedGeo day in Washington DC later this week. I've thrown myself back into work at the best company (RadiantBlue) that I have ever had the pleasure to work for. This is very therapeutic for me. Things like this cause you to stand back and re-assess your life and your priorities. I've made the decision that I'm in a fairly unique position with OSSIM/OMAR, the US Defense Intelligence Complex and open source software. What you may not know is that my team has made their living developing these baselines under government funding for these agencies. This began with little studies, experiments, but has evolved to our OMAR integration that is now embedded and used in critical operations. I am not at liberty to give out exact numbers, but in 2012 our Open Technology Division had revenue of over $10M in development, maintenance, and operations around OMAR. The core team has been funded for 12 years. As an engineer and scientist I've always started with technological trends and projected them forward to ideal conditions. We all understand the vector that Open Technology is on. If you think about the state of paralysis in the US Government, the need for dramatic budget cuts and technology outsourcing - it is clear to me that there is an opportunity to dramatically change the way these government agencies function. Open source software is ITAR compliant - it is therefore easy to replicate these technologies in other countries around the world. I stand with one foot in both the classified and unclassified worlds. Most of the interesting stuff has shifted to the outside, I go to Google and twitter to investigate almost everything. Imagine a world where intelligence is open and shared. I believe it would be a better, safer place. Our software technologies can provide basic infrastructure. I'm installing OMAR in Europe in a couple of weeks, it has already been installed in a number of other locations around the world by coalition forces, maritime awareness projects, and various academic pursuits. OMAR basically indexes and processes remote sensing data on demand. Users can discover, manipulate, generate results from enormous ground station and library stores. Anyone with a browser and network connectivity can share the underlying technology and information and see the latest goings on around the world. I'll stop rambling for now. Suffice it to say I have a new mission in life. I intend to go public and viral- and inside to my lifelong government contacts to see if I can move this along. At this point, you may be wondering, Just how stable is this guy? Let me assure you, I am very stable, focused, and energized towards the future. You are all my friends and we are bonded together with a common belief in the evolution of world class open source software for geospatial processing. To quote Arnold - I'll be back bet you were thinking about the other Arnold… Sincerely, Mark ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ossimPredator KLV data
The predator KLV data is compliant with the Motion Imagery Standards Board. (version 2.1 I believe) I'd suggest searching the web for MISB compliant video to see if there is any test data out there we could use. Unfortunately, all of the data that we have in house is FOUO (for official use only). Mark On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Mohammed Rashad mohammedrasha...@gmail.com wrote: All, Where can I get some KLV data for testing ossimPredator? No KLV data is public and hence ossim developers cant put it on their repo. So Is there anyway we can generate it since getting existing test data is not possible. Even though ossimPredator has a very small code base its very important. So I would love to test its functionality if some provides test data -- Regards, Rashad ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
Great idea, I was just thinking that we need to add something exciting and new that promotes OSGeo. The OSGeo live disk certainly does that, but this would place more emphasis on data/art/style. I know there is a large segment within OSGeo that would like to focus more on education and academia - documenting how some of these examples are put together could possibly focus on that. Mark On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Michael P. Gerlek m...@flaxen.com wrote: Barry: This is the coolest idea I've heard in a long time. ESRI does a yearly coffee-table book for Arc-generated maps, the various satellite companies make calendars every year with their best hi-res shots... We should play the game too. Count me in, I'll volunteer to help. .mpg On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:33 AM, Barry Rowlingson b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Do you think an atlas of beautiful maps produced with open-source technology (software and data) could be made? Here's what I was thinking: * Put out a proposal for beautiful cartography, stunning maps, and insightful visualisations done with OpenSource applications and/or Open Data. * Collect map proposals as images on a flickr group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/osgeomaps/ * Get enough, have a community vote/expert opinion for the best 50 or so. * Get high-res or vector versions of the winners. * Get authors to write a note for the book, explaining the software, the techniques, and the impact of their work. * Edit them into a glossy colour book, publish on a publish-on-demand site (eg lulu.com). * Give free copies to the authors of the top ten voted maps or maybe all the ones included (I'll pay for these unless someone wants to sponsor it). * Release the PDF under an open license. Of course. * Profit!! [By selling copies on lulu at a small premium for OSGeo] I don't think the production effort is very much, I just wonder if enough people are producing maps that will look good in A4 or larger (we're all about the web these days, right?) and if publicity can be sustained enough to get 50 nice maps. The timeline would be set so we have lots of glossy copies of these sitting around for sale at FOSS4G 2013. Good idea? Or will we just get 45 maps which are stamen.com watercolour backgrounds with some points pasted on? There is a perception which I think we've all heard that Open Source GIS packages can't do cartography, but with a little help from Inkscape I've seen some great-looking maps on posters at conferences. ESRI used to (still do?) produce an Arc/Info atlas (I have a vague memory of something A3-size in our GIS research lab 20 years ago) of maps - surely we can do something like that now. Obviously I'm sticking my hand up to do the work for this, my concern is purely whether we'd get enough entries. I'd like the bar to be quite high. Most of the work is going to be done by the mappers themselves. Shoot. Barry -- blog: http://geospaced.blogspot.com/ web: http://www.maths.lancs.ac.uk/~rowlings web: http://www.rowlingson.com/ twitter: http://twitter.com/geospacedman pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spacedman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Boad of Director Nomination: Daniel Morissette
I would like to second the nomination for Daniel. After having had the pleasure of working with him on the current board, I frankly can't imagine how we would function without him. He is always a voice of reason and he has taken ownership of managing all of the financial tracking and planning that has made us successful. Mark On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com wrote: Thank you very much Arnulf for such a nice nomination. It would be hard for me to not accept after reading it. :) I'd be happy to serve on the board for another term, presumably to continue the job started as treasurer in the last year (or to help transition it to someone else if there is a taker), and also and most importantly to continue to help bridge the gap between the local chapters communities and OSGeo Global. The growing number of local chapters and local events shows how important they are to help spread the OSGeo vision to local and non-English speaking communities. I am very happy to see a few nominees from outside North America already... please keep them coming as I think this is a great sign and can only help make OSGeo even more international. Some continents/regions are not represented yet in the list of nominees. It would be awesome of we had at least one candidate from each continent/region. Daniel On 12-07-25 1:18 PM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote: Dear OSGeo Community, Charter Members, I want to nominate Daniel Morissette for the OSGeo board of directors. I have been working with Daniel for many years and he is one of the most trustworthy and consistently productive people I know. He has always proven to be highly sensitive to community related aspects and has an international outlook, combined with very good English skills. This makes him a good mediator between different regions and cultures, a regularly upcoming issue in our community. This would already make him an invaluable member of the board of directors. But this is not enough, on top of this he also tends to the irksome job of treasurer and has toiled through many down-to-earth tasks that an organization of our size requires to get done. He is also an integral part of the Franco-Canadian local community and a relentless contributor to the MapServer project. It would be silly to not squeeze some more out of him if he so friendly asks for it. Thank you, Arnulf -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Jeff McKenna
Jeff, Great to have you back, look forward to working with you again. Mark On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote: Hello OSGeo community! I thank Mike for such a nice nomination. It would be an honor to again represent the OSGeo community on the Board of Directors of OSGeo, and I accept this nomination. General Thoughts OSGeo for me has always been about the community. I have worked very hard in my career on specific parts of community building for OSGeo, that often involved no code writing: answering questions on mailing lists (often on non-English lists), documentation, installers, testing new features in software, providing feedback to developers, event planning, hands-on workshops, benchmarking... So, in my mind, the future of OSGeo will still be about the community. Sure, we/OSGeo are in the middle of an interesting time: - a 15,000-strong event is happening as I write this now in San Diego, and a lot of their products are using FOSS code now (this to me is very positive) - FOSS4G regional events are being created all around the globe (I am fascinated as I watch this) - Our recently added Charter Members are mostly all non-North American (wow really a great sign of OSGeo and FOSS4G spreading around the world) - OSGeo revenue sources are not as clear as before - a very interesting group is being formed as we speak, Location Industry Working Group, composed of some key industry players (and we must consider how OSGeo can work with this group, as there is some great momentum being generated there) - a large FOSS4G event will not be happening in 2012 Ambitions for OSGeo --- I want OSGeo to grow. I want every person in the geospatial industry to know what OSGeo and FOSS4G are. I want them to see our passion, to feel it, to experience it. And I want them to experience it in their local areas. I want more local chapters forming, more informal chapter meetings over a drink and chat at the local restaurant. Personal Motivation --- Some of you might wonder what happened, that I felt I should resign from the OSGeo Board so recently (February), after being so active on it since back in September of 2009. Some community members might have strong opinions that: I was worn out, exhausted, frustrated, unhappy that my FOSS4G Advisor proposal didn't take off, needed a change, not made for such a director position,... I've now heard many opinions. Looking back now, I needed a break. After Denver I needed to take some time, to step back. And I did just that. Recently some might have noticed that I am active again; indeed I feel rejuvenated. I am the old me. Passionate about OSGeo, FOSS4G, and, chicken wings and beer :) Personal Goals -- As Mike mentioned, I don't lack any passion for OSGeo or FOSS4G, I can be very vocal, but sometimes that is not what is needed. I must learn to be more professional, to let others do their jobs, to let things happen, and to help the community grow. I will work hard to do this. I have made many mistakes; and because I am so open and vocal, all of my mistakes are there for everyone to see. But I don't regret being open. Mistakes give me character, make me who I am, allow me to grow. So, I will grow with OSGeo and FOSS4G :) Call for more Board Nominations --- I too have been asking other community members these past weeks if they are interested in being nominated for the Board; I hope everyone is contacting their own local community leaders and asking them. Thanks -- I also respect that sometimes it is good to have new members on the Board, a new perspective, from a different geographic region (or how did Arnulf put it? a non-NorthAmerican-middleaged-male? ha) And I agree. But don't get me wrong, I am interested in helping OSGeo and FOSS4G. I would be honored to represent the community again. Thank you everyone, you've all really helped me grow. -jeff -- http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna On 12-07-23 7:03 PM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH wrote: I would like to nominate Jeff McKenna to the board of OSGeo. As to his qualifications, how much time to do you have? Jeff lives and breathes OSGeo and is one of the most active members of the OSGeo community. He is a friend, resource and gateway to all who have an interest in Open Source (data and software) and OSGeo in particular. Jeff is one of the original charter members (from 2006) and has been on the OSGeo board before (September 2009). Jeff has a passion for OSGeo that is unrivaled by anyone, a big heart, and is considered someone always ready to talk or listen when anyone, anywhere has a OSGeo question, comment or critique. Jeff is very international in his approach to OSGeo and works with and participates with many, many OSGeo chapters
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New charter members!
New Charter Members - Welcome!!! It is really satisfying to see all of the international expertise. As we expand into more regional conferences and events we will really depend on your leadership. Mark On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:34 AM, Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses pfer...@osgeo.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Michael P. Gerlek m...@flaxen.com wrote: Therefore, on behalf of the OSGeo Board and the entire OSGeo community, I am pleased to welcome the following people as OSGeo Charter Members for 2012: Thank you very much! Now let's continue doing some FOSS4G goodness :D Bests -- Pedro-Juan Ferrer Matoses Valencia (España) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo has been accepted at Google Summer of Code!
OSSIM will participate On Mar 16, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Anne Ghisla wrote: Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting, Wolf, Hamish and I have the great pleasure to announce that OSGeo has been accepted as a mentoring organization to the Google Summer of Code program [0]! What to do now? - OSGeo projects: confirm your participation by replying to this email - Would-be mentors: have a look at Mentors Guide, discuss with previous years' mentors and register. All links and info can be found at [1] - Would-be students: talk with the developers of your preferred project(s) and start creating your proposals. Have a look at the ideas page for inspiration [2] - All: feel free to discuss on soc mailing list on how to improve this year's SoC, and add your ideas to the wiki [3] [0] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2012 and http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2012/osgeo [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2012_Administrative [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2012_Ideas [3] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code_2012_Improvements All the best! Anne Ghisla, Wolf Bergenheim and Hamish Bowman -- OSGeo GSoC Administrators ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Back in Afghanistan
Thought I'd broadcast this to the OSGeo community. Please feel free to contact Jenn if you think you can help. Mark Begin forwarded message: From: Jenn Gold jenng...@insygroup.com Subject: Back in Afghanistan Date: January 18, 2012 6:21:39 AM EST To: mlu...@radiantblue.com Hey Mark, Happy belated New Years! I hope you are well and that the holiday's were good to you. Rachel, Juan and I are back in Afghanistan for another round with some exciting news. We won a contract with Internews to help coordinate the first Innovation Lab in Afghanistan. It's in Kabul next week. We are responsible for documenting the event and organizing media coverage. In a nutshell the Lab is a 3 day event bringing together local and international IT experts, geeks, students, Ministry officials and funders to discuss Afghanistan's IT development AND educate Afghans on using technology to create social change. There are countless countries that are struggling through civil war, poverty and lack of education who have been using basic ICT's to improve their situations; we are bringing those lessons to the lab to give the Afghan's new ideas and encouragement (I could go off on a tangent, but I'll restrain myself). And probably most exciting is we have been asked by Internews to speak on our SMS projects that we completed with agriculture and health. We are very excited and I hope it will lead to funding opportunities. With that being said, we've contacted a slew of media outlets, but we want to reach more. I'm going to include the links to our Twitter feed and Facebook page - if you have either accounts could you please advertise our website - www.kabulinnovationlab.com. or circulate it via email :) https://twitter.com/#!/search/KabulLab - use @kabulinnovationlab https://www.facebook.com/kabulinnovationlab Rachel, Juan and I really appreciate your help and support. We hope you are doing well. Take care and keep in touch, tell us what you are up to and how you are doing! Jenn ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: RE : [OSGeo-Discuss] Distracting discussions of discussing [was:] What is North America?
Daniel, There is no disagreement that it would be good to coordinate and work with other local chapters - that is certainly in our thinking. To keep it simple and focused, we are not proposing any formal or implied hierarchy between local chapters and the region. Everyone is free to contribute in the best way they see fit. I did ping several local chapters, but I realize that wasn't comprehensive. We broadcast our intentions on the discuss list, the board list, and then set up communications through the northamerica list documenting on the wiki. I look forward to working with anyone who wants to participate and contribute. Mark On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote: On 11-11-24 04:50 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote: But to answer your question.. the aim is to run a conference, first round in the USA. Other than working alongside other chapters (and obviously inviting them to partner on the event) there is no proposed formal connection between them - except of course being under the OSGeo banner together :) I am of the opinion that the NA Chapter should have a closer relationship to the other local chapters in this territory, but I do not have the time to explain and argue those points. I write this as an active member of the Quebec local Chapter that falls in this territory and personally I'm disappointed that the local chapters were never ping'd for their opinion or interest in being involved other than some notes sent through this list. I thought of a NA chapter as well before and discussed the idea with several people in the last years but it was a different concept: I am of the opinion that a NA chapter would be stronger with support from all the local chapters in the territory. Oh, did I just say that I didn't have time for this? Sorry, I shut up... -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Board] Signing off...
Tyler, Thanks for all of your support over the years. It was through your personal efforts with Gary and Autodesk that we were able to get the organization really moving. I look forward to continuing to work with you in the future. Mark Lucas On Nov 17, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote: FYI - I've removed myself from the following email aliases: info, board-priv, treasurer And from the following mailing lists: board, finance, incubator, soc Just letting you know so you don't assume I read something that you might want a answer from me on. So please email me directly (tmitch...@osgeo.org) with any OSGeo questions. I set it up so I can cc: the board list and it will go through, in case you want me to answer a question more broadly, but I won't be watching the day-to-day traffic from here on out. Thanks, Tyler ___ Board mailing list bo...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] MIL-OSS/OSGeo meetup
hi all, new event!!RSVP!What: Holiday Party: Open Source GeoSpatial Meetup w/ MIL_OSS - Dec 13http://milossgeo.eventbrite.com/Welcome to the first holiday party of DC area federal/defense/ICgeospatial open source software partitioners!Join us in creating an active network of industry, acedemia, military and government sponsors to talk about all things military/IC open source geospatial. This is being sponsored by the Military Open Source Software Working Group, Open Source GeoSpatial Foundation OpenGeo, RadiantBlue Technologies,Inc.Cost: $10 at the door to defray the room and includes light refreshments/ hors d'oeuvres.Please forward around and RSVP!!When:Dec 13 - Tuesday evening @ 5:30Where:Union Street Public House | Oyster Bar121 South Union StreetAlexandria, VA 22314Who:Organized by MIL-OSS / OpenGeoReferences:Open Source Geospati al Foundationhttp://www.osgeo.org/Military Open Source Software Working Grouphttp://mil-oss.org/http://groups.google.com/group/mil-ossOpenGeohttp://opengeo.org/RadiantBlue Technologies, Inc.http://www.radiantblue.com/---John ScottRadiantBlue Technologies, Inc. (Virginia)240.401.6574jsc...@radiantblue.comjms...@gmail.comHave you joined MIL-OSS:http://groups.google.com/group/mil-osshttp://mil-oss.org/Please download and print your electronic tickets.Click Here to Download your TicketsThis email was sent by Eventbrite. Anyone can use Eventbrite to spread the word, collect money, and track RSVPs for an event..See how you can too!Clickhereto unsubscribe from events by"MIL-OSS OSGeo / OpenGeo RBT".Eventbrite | 651 Brannan St. Suite 110 | San Francisco, CA 94107___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] MIL-OSS OSGeo get together ticket link correction
Correction: MIL-OSS OSGeo Tickets are at this link: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/2516868020/?invite=err=29referrer=ebtv=Fdiscount=affiliate=eventpassword= ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Massimo Di Stefano Charter Membership nomination
I'd like to nominate Massimo Di Stefano for OSGeo charter membership.Massimo has been an active contributor and integrator of OSGeo projects. He participated in the Google Summer of Code project as a student developer for OSSIM and later acted as a mentor for another gsoc project. He helped set up the OSGeo booth and manned it during the OSGeo/foss4g conference in Denver. He is a very energetic, enthusiastic promoter of our projects. Mark LucasPrincipal Scientist516 E New Haven AvenueMelbourne Fl 32901(321) 266 1475 (cell)(321) 473-4309 (office)mlu...@radiantblue.com---http://www.radiantblue.comhttp://www.ossim.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wherecon conference April 10-12 2012 in Washington DC
Cameron, Agree, just started talking to them yesterday. Also, the Live Disk is the logical starting point as we work with NGA to move open source technology and practices into the agency. We hope to formally kick off that effort before Thanksgiving and will start out with an external internet test bed that I'd like to get OSGeo involved with. Mark On Nov 5, 2011, at 4:33 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: On 5/11/2011 4:07 AM, Mark Lucas wrote: http://www.wherecon.com/ Will there be someone attending this conference who can hand out OSGeoLive DVDs? Of particular note, the OSGeoLive DVD contains write ups of key OGC standards - which is important for the OGC sponsor. -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Wherecon conference April 10-12 2012 in Washington DC
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Next steps for OSGeo
Tyler, thanks for the nomination. I've enjoyed working with you and watching you grow our organization. Lets start with what is working well. In a very short period of time, an idea in Tyler's mind became a small meeting in Chicago where OSGeo was formed. Gary Lang and Autodesk provided the financial backing to make us a real organization- leading to infrastructure for hosting projects, conferences, and notoriety. The number of volunteers, committees, and projects that formed around us has allowed us to cast a large shadow and spread around the world in a very short period of time. Countless hours by Tyler, Frank, Arnulf, Jo, Chris, Hobu, Dave, Daniel, Geoff, Paul, Markus, Jody, Chris, Ned, Ravi, Tim, and many others have made us successful. I support the following efforts which are currently well led by others: • More international participation, our technologies are ideal for areas with limited resources, we also have demonstrated rapid response to natural disasters around the world. • Focus on how members without programming skills can contribute - education, documentation, marketing, coordinating and helping to integrating OSGeo projects into larger solutions. • Live Disk efforts, more marketing • Course materials for academia • Enhancing and evolving the OSGeo project infrastructure Where could I add the most value? My desire would be to keep the culture and environment thriving while focusing on bringing in more revenue so that we can do more. Our conferences are enabled by a number of corporate sponsors. Many of us are making our livings working on open source technologies. I'd like to expand those opportunities and bring in more financial resources to the organization. In particular, downsizing of government budgets creates significant opportunities for open source geospatial solutions and support. The OSGeo is in a position to help those organizations and agencies connect with open source resources and follow best practices. • Outreach to government agencies • Outreach to related organizations: OGC, MIL-OSS, OSFA, OSSI, Disaster relief, humanitarian projects. • Acting as a bridge between government agencies and OSS based companies and consultants • Encouraging open geospatial collaboration between international governments • Focusing on additional sponsors and revenue streams so we can do more • I believe we should also assist proprietary companies to make the transition to open technologies and business models Many years ago, in Chicago, we declared we wanted to move open source geospatial projects to the next level. We have already accomplished that, but there is much more that we can do. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Department of Defense release on OSS
The DoD CIO officially released more open source guidance. This is a follow on to the Open Technology Development Roadmap that we previously wrote. http://cio-nii.defense.gov/sites/oss/index.shtml ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Certification only; stay out of training :-)
Totally agree, the foundation should provide an environment that connects agencies, organizations, providers, and members while improving the breadth and quality of oss geospatial solutions. We already have an impressive amount of volunteers and contributors on the various committees and projects. Imposing 'requirements' on volunteer efforts is a non-starter in my mind. There are many good discussions on how we could do more if we had resources. We want to encourage companies that support the open source business model. We can add value to government agencies and larger corporations by vetting projects, policies, and processes. But that gets into a different discussion on how we attract financial sponsorship and the value proposition for those sponsors. Mark On Jun 12, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Jody Garnett wrote: While I concur (I don't want to see the foundation set itself up in competition ) there may yet still be a useful roll to play. What I cannot figure out is how the foundation could expect to make any money from this angle ... any figuring of costs I go through makes it look like a massive effort. As for the useful role: If OSGeo was able to supply a certification test, provide independent marking, and issue the resulting certification it may actually complement existing training offerings the existing professionals and enterprises. This would both validate the training offered; and act as a competitive advantage - right now given a choice between two training courses people will often choose the option that gives them a chance at sitting a certification at the end (especially if they have a limited budget and don't really care what it is they are learning). A couple of things are clear to me about this discussion: a) I *hate* certifications; I feel they prey on the disadvantaged of our industry right when they are weakest (this goes for both job hunters and those going through a hiring process) b) certifications are really required in different markets around the world (especially when industry has lost confidence in the meaning of a university degree). With the above in mind I feel that certifications will happen; and given a choice I would rather it happen at the foundation level (rather than getting people certified in different product stacks). So while I have some mechanics in mind (certification to include the open source process; not only use; demonstrate ability; aim for a 50% pass rate for the certification to mean something; offer bulk discount to groups wishing to use tests at at the end of a training course; or groups wishing to use test as part of a hiring process). What I cannot figure out is where the profit is; or how to pay for people's involvement. While groups offering training could collaborate (and possible act in a double blind capability to mark results); it would probably require some paid hours to get projects to look at the tests and make sure they mean something at the end of the day. Pricing the tests would probably be within market norms; and I would expect a much cheaper retry cost (possibly just covering marking time) if we manage to make the marking process brutal enough to be useful to potential employers. One thing we have a chance to do well here is stress the soft open source skills that a potential employee must have in order to be sucessful. Rather than only mechanical questions about configuration and use. Examples: link to 3 questions you have answered on the user list; two issues you have reported etc (which can be marked for completeness etc...). Finally you have the annoyance for companies that are already established in this space of having the possibility of competing with new groups that have picked up their certifications and appear better on paper. I cannot honestly have much sympathy here, competition is as competition does, best advice would be to help define the certification (and allow that to be placed on a resume). -- Jody Garnett On Friday, 10 June 2011 at 4:07 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 09/06/2011 21:38, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto: Anyone else thinking about this or want to weigh-in on what their thoughts were? If this competes with the activities the professionals and enterprises are currently offering, -1. We want OSGeo to support our work, not to compete with it. This would have a number of negative consequences, IMHO. All the best. -- Paolo Cavallini: http://www.faunalia.it/pc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification
Cameron, I like this approach. Extending the excellent work on the OSGeo-Live disk can also be used as a metric for incubation of our leading projects. Tyler and I had a really good discussion in Denver a couple of weeks ago on how we might work towards improving the sponsorship/funding efforts - giving us more resources to move forward. More funding sponsors will be critical to enhancing these types of projects. Additionally, our group has been working with US government agencies over the years encouraging them to adopt open source geospatial solutions. The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) is working an open source initiative that will be announced at foss4g in Denver. My opinion is that OSGeo has accomplished our initial goals and it is time to start thinking about financially securing its future. I look forward to discussing this further. Mark Lucas Principal Scientist RadiantBlue Technologies Inc. mlu...@radiantblue.com --- http://www.radiantblue.com http://www.ossim.org On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: I do believe that we as a community have the potential to collaboratively build quality, comprehensive training material, which will provide the key backbone required to support comprehensive, internationally recognised training. (I've already mentioned this to the education and discuss email lists, as well as a few others). The idea: We already collaboratively build the OSGeo-Live DVD by tapping into targeted expertise from a wide range of domain experts. Packagers have written step by step instructions and templates for packaging, and tech writers have provided writing instructions and documentation templates, which are followed by application developers. Once developers have finished, the installers and documents are passed back for review. Why do applications contribute to OSGeo-Live? Because we have built a highly valuable marketing pipeline, (including translations, web pages and a DVD handed out at conferences and workshops). This pipeline is available with a relatively low amount of effort. We can extend this OSGeo-Live build process to also include the development of consistent training documentation. It requires: * educators to create writing guidelines and a template on how projects should write training material. * This is to be provided to developers to fill out. * We then need a technical writer / educator to review all provided material * All this needs to be coordinated * And we need supporting wiki style tools and infrastructure to be put in place This is actually very achievable, but is a bit more than a volunteer can typically take on as a hobby activity, and so I believe that a key to the success is also a funding sponsor. I have quite a bit more to say on this, but will keep it brief for the moment. On 11/06/11 00:13, Phillip Davis wrote: Charles, the GeoTech Center will be at FOSS4G this September offering the following workshops: 1. FOSS4G for Educators (Monday) 2. GTCM Course Development (Tuesday) 3. Remote Sensing DACUM (Wednesday-Thursday) to promote two goals: a) FOSS4G for higher ed and b) alignment of geospatial industry needs and academic GIS program curriculum. Our ongoing effort is the help higher education better align with the new Dept. of Labor's Geospaital Technology Competency Model (GTCM). You can see our work on building SCORM-compliant, GTCM-aligned course packs with curriculum modules here: http://www.geotechcenter.org/Education-Training/GTCM-Faculty-Development-Workshop-Summer-2011. In regards to certification, we fully support the GISCI's effort in improve their GISP certification with a competency-based exam, something they've committed to doing last week, over the next three years. Researchers with GeoTech assisted the GISCI working group that investigated the question over the past 18 months, offering our extensive research into the precise skills required by GIS technicians (and now Remote Sensing Specialist). You can view this research here: http://www.geotechcenter.org/Resources/Publications. Finally, we would like to offer our SCORM-compliant, GTCM-aligned course packs for OSGeo to help us vet and eventually disseminate beginning next May, 2012 when the results of our 2011 workshops have been properly vetted and created. The Center would offer to sit with yourself and the OSGeo board at the forthcoming FOSS4G to discuss collaboration. Phil Davis Director and PI From: edu_discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [edu_discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Schweik [cschw...@pubpol.umass.edu] Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 8:31 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Cc: OSGeo-edu Subject: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification I'm not going to weigh in on the certification question -- I don't
Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification
On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Mark, Yes I agree that OSGeo-Live also provides a good framework for the periodic review of projects beyond incubation. What we have on our side is: 1. A periodic release schedule 2. A valuable business driver which attracts projects to continue to work on OSGeo-Live (namely the marketing value of each release) We do have the potential to gradually introduce review of incubation criteria into the OSGeo-Live release cycle. I was actually thinking of the reverse - incubation graduation would be contingent on getting on the OSGeo-Live disk. Agree it should be gradual, should start out as a goal. Mark ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] not spam :)
Amazing what has happened in those 5 years. It was great to be in that first meeting and see the organization grow. Happy Birthday OSGEO mark On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Happy birthday to all of you! -mpg, who was happy to be able to attend on that Chicago day five years ago -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss- boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:38 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] not spam :) Oh darn, they put a silly subject line :) Believe it or not, this is not SPAM... much tastier! On 2011-02-03, at 9:35 AM, Tyler Mitchell wrote: My 2 minutes cake decorating. You can better, I challenge you!! :) Tyler To check the card, click here: http://www.theoworlds.com/birthday/index.php?CardID=146004 --- TheoWorlds.com - make your message fun! Flash games, e-cards, applications... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2010 Charter Member Selection
Congratulations to all of the new charter members. It is exciting to see OSGeo continue to grow and diversify. Mark Lucas On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Paul Ramsey wrote: OSGeo members, The 2010 process is complete, and the new charter members are, in alphabetical order: • Alex Mandel • Andreas Hocevar • Anne Ghisla • Astrid Emde • Danilo Furtado • Gavin Fleming • Hirofumi Hayashi • Jo Cook • Maria Brovelli • Milena Nowotarska ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] are there any unpaid developers?
I think that most of the developers that actively contribute to the OSSIM project are funded through government contracts. Having said that, most all of them contribute well beyond the time they are paid for. Often that is to move the baseline towards capabilities that are not covered by customer requirements. I spend most all of my time securing contracts so we can expand the team. The core team has worked together over the last decade as the individual contributors have switched companies several times. Mark On Apr 19, 2010, at 11:44 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 06:00:45PM -0400, Ian Turton wrote: One of my students was asking today about the open source development process (with special reference to geospatial projects). One question I'm left with is are there any OSGEO developers who are doing this just for the fun and fame? I know that a lot of us have fun developing but everyone I could think of (GeoTools, GeoServer, uDig) gets paid to have that fun. About 80% of my work on OpenLayers has been entirely unpaid and unsupported by anyone for the past couple years. The early days of OL were a MetaCarta project, and some portion of my work time is still done with support from my employer on open source software, but most of it is just me spending my own time. Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt Web Developer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Mark Lucas Division Manager inline: RadiantBlue_JPEG_300x100fixed.jpg 516 E New Haven Avenue Melbourne Fl 32901 (321) 266 1475 (cell) (321) 473-4309 (office) mlu...@radiantblue.com --- http://www.radiantblue.com http://www.ossim.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Applying Open Source Principles to Federal Government
The Open Technology Development Roadmap that we wrote for Ms Sue Payton is highlighted as well as Open Source for America (RadiantBlue is one of the founders) Good talk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O0C9T7h01o ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Applying Open Source Principles to Federal Government
I think OSGeo can play a key role in Open Source for America. We can discuss in Atlanta with John and the rest of the gang. Mark On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: Thanks Mark, In what capacity can OSGeo get involved with Open Source for America? Tyler The Open Technology Development Roadmap that we wrote for Ms Sue Payton is highlighted as well as Open Source for America (RadiantBlue is one of the founders) Good talk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O0C9T7h01o ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Military OSS
Hi All,I am helping to setup a Military open source software conference in @ GTRI in Atlanta in August, no suits/ties, just a bunch of techies doing the right thing:http://www.mil-oss.org/if you can make it, great!Evenbetterifyouspeak! I'd like to see if we can get some other OSGeo projects to participate.Military Open Source Software (Mil-OSS)Working Group · 12th - 13th August 2009 · Atlanta, GeorgiaKEY NOTES Open Source the US Department of DefenseDaniel RisacherAssociate DirectorInformation Policy and Integration, DoD CIOBio | LinkedIn Keep It Stupid Stupid: The KISS Principle for DoD AcquisitionsMajor James D. NeushulI MEF Future Operations, Commo / IMOLinkedIn OPEN AGENDAGEOSPATIAL OSS PROJECTS GENERAL OSS PROJECTS MISC TOPICSChair: John ScottMercury Federal SystemsBio | LinkedIn Chair: Heather BurkeSPAWAR CharlestonLinkedIn Chair: Joshua L. DavisGeorgia Tech Research InstituteBio | LinkedInCurrent Topics: FalconView,STAR-TIDES... Current Topics: Drupal, Ballistic Missel Defense Benchmark, JBOSS, I MEF Webportal... Current Topics: VMWare GIT, SCHOLAR Mark LucasPrincipal Scientist516 E New Haven AvenueMelbourne Fl 32901(321) 266 1475 (cell)mlu...@radiantblue.com---http://www.radiantblue.comhttp://www.ossim.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESRI Spain conference incident
ESRI has a history of tightly controlling its conferences. I've attended the paid conference in San Diego on several occasions and have had papers turned down with no explanation. It was obvious that someone considered the topic competitive to ESRI products. Even when the papers were written emphasizing how software worked with ESRI solutions - it was obvious that they considered it competition and turned it down. There is always a silver lining. Obviously, gvSig has risen to the point that it is considered a threat to ESRI products and sales. Keep up the good work! Finally, it is refreshing to notice the contrast between proprietary conferences and open source events - aggressive competition and criticism of other products vs collaboration. Mark On Oct 17, 2008, at 4:09 AM, Lester Caine wrote: Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote: The ESRI user conference is gratis, but you need to register yourself and receive confirmation of the organisation. Some of that people went to Madrid from Valencia, so they lost (or not, it depends how you see that) their work day and that's money of course. I certainly would still have kicked up a stink to get back the cost of travelling over 200 miles ;) Heck - I think they should do that anyway? The organisers had obviously decided beforehand to exclude these people so it WOULD have been polite to save them cost of travelling BUT they obviously decided simply to annoy? It certainly does not earn ESRI any 'brownie points' being so arrogant, but then again their lawyers have probably sown up every loose end in the small print so they will just have to put up with bad press :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Mark Lucas Principal Scientist ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: OS and proprietary
Interestingly enough, in our efforts with Open Technology Development and the Department of Defense (US), the Navy made that determination that OSS was COTS - and therefore needed to be considered on an equal footing with proprietary solutions for Navy acquisitions. Mark On Apr 27, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Arnulf Christl wrote: [...] My original sentiment still stands -- if you have the money, but don't have the skills, and don't need it yesterday, it might be better in the long-term to fund an extension of a good OSS project than to take the easy way out and buy a COTS package. Absolutely. It appears that Open Source is the next level in the evolution of business models[1]. It is not a revolution because there is nothing to go back to. Slowly a sentiment is growing in the suits that business with software must be different to business with hardware due to their inherent difference[2]. We are pushing this process forward with every line of code that we produce, with every aspect of the foundation that we create and we can nudge it a bit further by using terminology appropriate to this process. So watch out for the words we use. COTS translates into commercial off the shelf and I wonder why this term should be restricted to proprietary packages. The times when one had to manually compile a PostGIS, MapServer, GeoServer, gvSIG, Quantum GIS and so on, before one could use them are over. You can - and that is an extra advantage - but you don't have to. So my suggestion is to put COTS on the shelf of terminology that is compatible with Open Source. Best regards, Arnulf. [1] http://www.opensourcejahrbuch.de/portal/article_show?article=osjb2007-01-02-freyermuth.pdf [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Software -- Arnulf Christl http://www.wheregroup.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] ossimPlanet movie
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[OSGeo-Discuss] ATC, WTM, or WAC cell calculator?
Does anyone know where a module is for calculating where an ATC, WTM or WAC cell is given the cell identifier? Mark Lucas___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] DoD Open Source Conference
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Where 2.0 Call for Proposals Closing November 26
I submitted one on ossimPlanet. Haven't heard back. Mark On Nov 19, 2007, at 10:12 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote: Anyone planning to, or already submitted, proposals for the conference? Begin forwarded message: From: O'Reilly Where 2.0 Conference [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 8, 2007 5:11:10 PM PST (CA) Subject: Call for Proposals Closing November 26 Call for Proposals Closing November 26, 2007 The way to the future of the geospatial industry begins with a proposal Where 2.0 2008 May 12-14, 2008 Burlingame, CA http://conferences.oreilly.com/where CALL FOR PROPOSALS New needs, new markets, new sources of data and new sources of revenue. Opportunity in the location-based, geospatial industry is unlimited. Unfortunately, the ability to present your ideas at Where 2.0 is not. The deadline for Where 2.0 Call for Proposals is November 26, 2007. Submit your proposal to lead a conference session, run a tutorial, or demonstrate the cutting-edge technology you've been working on. Let us hear from you. We want to know what you're working on. Dazzle us with that cool new mashup of personalization, cell phone, social networking, and GIS data. Share the results of your academic research. Demo your product. Launch your startup. Showcase your locative art project. Find funding, locate talent and point the way to the future. It starts when you submit a proposal to Where 2.0. WHAT IS WHERE 2.0? The single most important conference that focuses on new developments in the geo-spatial industry. For three days, Where 2.0 takes place at the intersection of longitude, latitude, the Internet, ideas, and business value. Where 2.0 gathers the best and brightest minds in the location-based industry to pitch ideas, present new products, and identify the trends and technologies poised to revolutionize the geo-spatial arena. JUST ADDED - PRACTICAL TUTORIALS Thanks to a groundswell of popular interest, we've devoted a day to in-depth tutorials at Where 2.0. Tutorials are half-day sessions that last a full three hours. Designed for participants to immerse themselves into GIS technologies, these tutorials provide attendees with the information, skills, and tools they need to return to work equipped to succeed. If you would like to lead a tutorial, we are looking for proposals on the following topics: =Geo Support in Web Application Frameworks =Today's Best GeoStack Tools =Mapping APIs =GeoTargeting Methods =Privacy Implications the Law =Getting the most out of GeoBrowsers =Managing Geo Data Tools, Tips, Techniques =Staying Up to Date with Protocols Formats Join us at Where 2.0. Present your ideas, share your research, showcase your art, and meet the people who are changing the way we find our way in the world. Submit a proposal to make a presentation, lead conference sessions, or deliver tutorials at the next Where 2.0. Call for proposals closes November 26, 2007. Registration opens January 2008. Make sure you're signed up for the conference newsletter to receive all the latest updates as plans for the Where 2.0 Conference progress (login required): http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/nl/home#conferences If you have ideas for speakers and topics that will make the conference a must attend event, send them to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For exhibition and sponsorship opportunities please email Yvonne Romaine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] For media partner opportunities please email Avila Reese at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We look forward to hearing from you, The Where 2.0 2008 Conference Team ** If you have a conference-related question, or do not wish to receive messages about this particular event in the future, please reply to this message. To unsubscribe from ALL O'Reilly conference announcements, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] O'Reilly Media, Inc. 1005 Gravenstein Highway North, Sebastopol, CA 95472 *** Tyler Mitchell Executive Director Open Source Geospatial Foundation [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: +1-250-277-1621 M: +1-250-303-1831 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Presentation materials
Each of the presenters was sent a link to upload their presentations. When they do the link will show up on their presentation page on the conference website. some of them are there already. On Oct 3, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Chip Taylor wrote: FOSS4G was a tremendous conference and I am glad I was given the opportunity to attend. Do we know when the presentation materials will be available online and where they will be found? Chip Taylor Prepared Response, Inc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New Mexico local chapter?
Zachary, I think this is a good idea and i'd suggest you take a look at OSSIM http://www.ossim.org which is more focused on photogrammetry and remote sensing. It already performs orthorectification, precision terrain correction, map projection/datum shifts, and supports several rigorous camera models. OSSIM is an OSGeo project, but is not as well known as some of the online mapping tools due to its more scientific orientation and corresponding learning curve. OSSIM would certainly benefit from additional capabilities in some of these areas and educational materials. Contact me directly if you are interested in finding out more. Mark Lucas I think a chapter in New Mexico focused on the technologies that you have defined would be an asset to the overall OSGeo effort. On Feb 4, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Zachary L. Stauber wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Some of us down here in New Mexico (or up depending on your orientation) want to start a local chapter. I've started a wiki here listing some info on us. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/New_Mexico Anyone think it's a great idea? A bad idea? Too small of an area? Too big? Just right? Before you answer let me go into a little bit of why we need a chapter. I work for a private engineering firm that does photogrammetry that does a high volume of orthophotos plus I teach photogrammetry part time at the local tech-voc institute where we can't afford the usual software. I'd like to see the software cheaper (specifically, free) and developers pay more attention to bug fixes and so on, which open source usually does. So I need a vehicle for starting up photogrammetry in open source, and rather that duplicating efforts, we figured we'd join OSGeo. My co-worker John Nipper is a programmer with experience in programming for aerial cameras and LiDAR sensors and wants to help. But we also need to be able to solicit help from experts in the field, professors of photogrammetry and surveying, mathematics, etc., and open source is the only neutral ground on which we can easily work together. My colleague and chair of the GIT program at the tech-voc school Amy Ballard wants to offer a class just on open source software. She believes it's taking off and will is useful in real jobs around New Mexico, and she wants to encourage its further use. R. Cliff Wilkie, geodetic surveyor for the City of Albuquerque, wants to offer users some shifting and reprojection software for surveyors to manipulate their points that operates transparently and has a good manual or explanation of the mechanics internally so people know what's happening to their data, for people like him to whom 1mm is a significant error. Karl Benedict is hosting the server. He's the senior research analyst and IT manager for the University of New Mexico's Earth Data Analysis Center. He's been 100% open source for years now, big user of the usual suspects (MapServer, Linux, SOAP, and so on), and is all for encouraging their use in the GIS community in New Mexico. I think we have a unique setup here, not only having people from all three communities (private, government, and academic) but most important working in some fields that are somewhat esoteric. GoogleEarth has millions of users, and with it things like MapServer. Desktop GIS has tens of thousands around the world, but photogrammetry and high accuracy geodesy, probably only several hundred. So there are a lot of things being developed in the high volume areas of open source that get a lot of attention, and the esoteric ones don't so much, which is too bad because the commercial software available suffers in quality from the same dynamic. There are only a dozen photogrammetry packages out there compared to scores of desktop GIS, and most of them are flirting with a price around US$20,000 per component, per license. The US National Geodetic Survey provides some tools for datum shifts and reprojecdtions like CorpsCon, but they are US-centric, and the development is controlled by a body which is not funded as well as it should be considering it's the foundation on which all geographic data is collected. Some software is still DOS-only. We need to be part of OSGeo so development can make sure the intellectual property rests in the public domain and the development is still controlled by a long-lived body devoted to the task like OSGeo rather than the US federal government or any private business. They can donate money and their peoples' time to us, grants, etc., but development that goes into a private box is notoriously cumbersome to update, doesn't have a wide range of users to test it, and has a habit of dying off. -Zack Stauber -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
