[OSGeo-Discuss] Comparison of Mobile GIS applications
Hello to all, I'm preparing a presentation for the FOSS4G, with title Comparison of Mobile GIS applications. I know some, but I think that the best way to make an objective analysis is to offer the chance for anyone to collaborate, in order to define common feature lists as well as perfomance or usability check lists. Is anyone developing or using a mobile geospatial application interested? Regards, - Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is the integration of FOSS4G and proprietary software good for FOSS4G?
Hello, I also agree to spread open source software on as many places as possible, and let the users decide based on their experience. So it seems, we all agree. Do you think a different point of view would arise if, for instance, a project like pgRouting would port to run also on top of Oracle Locator/Spatial? What would be the point of view for PostGIS project? I'm very interested in knowing PostGIS' people thoughts, so thanks in advance. Best, Miguel Montesinos De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] En nombre de Ragi Burhum Enviado el: jueves, 18 de marzo de 2010 17:23 Para: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is the integration of FOSS4G and proprietary software good for FOSS4G? +1 on what Daniel said. Personally, my interest lies on having successful, productive, - *happy* - users. Not on persuading anyone from one philosophy to another one. - Ragi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Is the integration of FOSS4G and proprietary software good for FOSS4G?
Hello, I throw out a question some people are debating in Spain [1 (only Spanish)]. Sextante has the intention (or at least have thought about it) of building bindings so that it can be used from proprietary applications, like ArcGIS. 1) Do you think that it may avoid proprietary users to migrate to open solutions, as they can benefit of open-source libraries under their proprietary software? Besides, this give arguments to proprietary manufacturers because of the weakness of open-source software needing to run on top of proprietary ones, or to sell out their compatibility with FOSS4G. 2) Do you think that it may lead proprietary users to try out and migrate to open source solutions due to the good impression they can have after using FOSS4G? Besides, this could generate incomes to improve FOSS4G developments, and offer alternatives to proprietary extensions, drivers, ... What is your oppinion about this tricky question? Best, [1] http://sextantegis.blogspot.com/ - Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?
Hello, I think that a simple comparison to what ArcGIS does is limitating. Several issues arises: - Why compare to ArcGIS 9.3 and not Geomedia, MapInfo,...? - What about features that OS GIS desktops provides not present in ArcGIS 9.3? I'd rather have a comparison among all of them under equal conditions, for instance a feature comparison based on the maximum features all products offer, as well as a perfomance analysis. For this, a common dataset of both file and service based data should be available. In Spain there are a lot of public official geodata which could be used as test datasets. I also like very much Paul Ramsey's approach about what I like and what I don't made by people belonging to different projects. Regards, - Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es http://www.prodevelop.es/ Miguel Montesinos De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] En nombre de Daniel Ames Enviado el: lunes, 21 de diciembre de 2009 19:25 Para: Maxim Dubinin; OSGeo Discussions Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010? Folks, I like the structured comparison approach that Cameron outlined. Also equally (or perhaps more useful) would be to put together a wiki page with goals and benchmarks based on ArcGIS 9.3. And then indicate where the os packages compare. This would provide us with the ability to answer the most important question which is can this do what the proprietary software does. For example, we could post a couple of maps made in AG and then challenge each desktop team to create and upload the same maps. Etc. I have a line shapefile with 200 shapes. We could upload it and have everyone do some timing to show how fast to load,pan, etc on the data. This could also serve as a way for some of the teams to see their own deficiencies and find critical tasks to work on (they could then update their reporting on the wiki and indicate the version number)... - Dan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Mobile shootout at FOSS4G 2010?
Hello, Thinking about OSGeo desktop shootout, I think that also having a mobile shootout comparison of both closed and open source mobile GIS/SDI clients would be of high interest, for showing that there are a full range of solutions from the DB to the mobile device using open source software. Any ideas about this? Regards, - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [en] prodevelop [punto] es www.prodevelop.es ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] gvSIG Mini
Hi to everybody, we announce that gvSIG Mini has been born. gvSIG Mini is a brand-new open-source project (GNU/GPL) aimed at cellular phones. gvSIG Mini is a a free viewer of free access maps based on tile services, with WMS client, address searching, POIs, routing and more features. gvSIG Mini has been developed by Prodevelop. We are pleased to receive your comments, suggestions, contributions,... We are open to collaborate with anyone willing to use or modify this project, or work in similar ones. More information at http://www.gvsigmini.org Sorry for the cross-posting [1] https://gvsig.org/plugins/downloads Kind regards, Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. http://www.prodevelop.es winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Where are all the FOSS OGC Client implementations?
Hi Tim, Do you mean apart from OGC Registered products [1]? Regards, [1] http://www.opengeospatial.org/resource/products - Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es -Mensaje original- De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss- boun...@lists.osgeo.org] En nombre de Tim Sutton Enviado el: domingo, 28 de diciembre de 2008 5:19 Para: OSGeo Discussions Asunto: [OSGeo-Discuss] Where are all the FOSS OGC Client implementations? Hi Folks Has anyone made a table showing which FOSS projects provide client implementations for the various OGC standards? I have a client who is trying to build an interoperable system based on OGC standards. The OGC site lists the a heap of standards (see below from http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards). Assuming I want to test the system with FOSS clients, has anyone created a list of FOSS OGC clients that they can point me to? We won't be using all the standards listed below, but having a complete list for reference would be very worthwhile. I'm also interested to know if there are any gotchas - e.g. software XYZ will only work against specific implementations of standard ABC Catalogue Service CityGML Coordinate Transformation Filter Encoding Geographic Objects Geography Markup Language Geospatial eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (GeoXACML) GML in JPEG 2000 Grid Coverage Service KML Location Services (OpenLS) Observations and Measurements Sensor Model Language Sensor Observation Service Sensor Planning Service Simple Features Simple Features CORBA Simple Features OLE/COM Simple Features SQL Styled Layer Descriptor Symbology Encoding Transducer Markup Language Web Coverage Service Web Feature Service Web Map Context Web Map Service Web Processing Service Web Service Common Any pointers will be most appreciated! Regards -- Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) == Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: * QGIS programming services * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans * FOSS Consulting Support Services Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net == ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESRI Spain conference incident
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de Dave Patton Enviado el: sáb 18/10/2008 18:22 Para: OSGeo Discussions Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESRI Spain conference incident On 2008/10/17 12:15 AM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote: Hi All, I resend this mail to OSGeo discuss because I think is a serious incident that cannot be obviated and shows how things are getting at least in Spanish market. As Alvaro says, why they have this behavior with his colleagues? Maybe they fear FOSS companies? Anyway, all of you are invited to the gvSIG conf, even to discuss, it's free in both senses ;) ESRI was a sponsor at FOSS4G 2007, and had a Lab. Who knows, maybe they will be involved somehow in FOSS4G 2009(for sure they won't be excluded just because they are viewed as competition for FOSS). Viewed as competition for FOSS - Well, they say (I asked about it at ESRI's booth during both FOSS4G 2007 2008) that they have made some contributions to open-source, as the openness of shapefile format or offering WMS servers. :-D Perhaps they can have a booth in the exhibition (and maybe gvSIG wants to have a booth right next to the ESRI booth ;-) For sure FOSS4G ESRI's attendees are much more polite (and clever) than their Spanish collegues. Maybe it would be wiser to make a request for a booth in the world annual ESRI's conference (I don't know nor want to, the exact name). Would they admit a FOSS4G booth (it doesn't matter which project could be) as we make at FOSS4G? It would be funny to see an OSGeo booth showing the integration capabilities of OSGeo projects against ESRI closed products, or even a comparison. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can we use a LiveDVD for workshops and labs atFOSS4G 2009?
JFYI For some workshops, training courses and so on, in gvSIG, we use a Knoppix Live-DVD that runs on any PC, regardless its operative system. Regards Miguel Montesinos gvSIG Team PRODEVELOP De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de Dave Patton Enviado el: dom 19/10/2008 23:02 Para: OSGeo Discussions Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can we use a LiveDVD for workshops and labs atFOSS4G 2009? On 2008/10/19 1:30 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: I'm wondering whether it will be achievable and desirable to use a GeoFOSS LiveDVD as the only installed operating system at workshops and labs at FOSS4G 2009. So my questions to communities are: Do you and your project think you would commit to packaging your project into a debian based LiveDVD before FOSS4G in October 2009? For presenters, would you want to add tutorial material to the LiveDVD, which would mean using an Open licence like Creative Commons? I would start by asking a different question - does anyone foresee any issue with not having MS Windows available as an option for Workshops/Labs for FOSS4G 2009? We might not want to restrict the discussion to OSGeo projects. What if a Sponsor, or Exhibitor, or 'some software company', or 'some non-OSGeo project' submitted a proposal to deliver a Workshop/Lab, and it merited consideration for inclusion in the conference, but it required MS Windows? Were there Workshops/Labs at FOSS4G 2008 that could not have been delivered without having MS Windows? If we assume that there was 'some need' for MS Windows for FOSS4G 2009, but that it wasn't needed for all the PCs, how would people react to Workshops/Labs that required MS Windows also requiring a higher registration fee? (i.e. higher by the incremental cost of the license to use MS Windows on the PC for the Workshop/Lab) P.S. It helps if everyone uses the term Instructors when referring to Workshops/Labs, because Presenter makes people think of Presentations, and sometimes that causes confusion. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Projects at FOSS4G
Tyler, regarding gvSIG project, we have the following participation: Speakers - gvSIG Status Report. Towards an open organization. Authors: Gabriel Carrión and Miguel Montesinos - gvSIG Mobile: How to code for desktop and mobile GIS/SDI. Authors: Javier Carrasco and Miguel Montesinos. - Improving open source GIS-SDI integration: the web service publishing extension for gvSIG. Salvador Bayarri. - Multipurpose metadata management in gvSIG. Laura Díaz - A free gvSIG-based graphical modeling tool. Víctor Olaya (SEXTANTE) Workshops - gvSIG + Sextante Workshop: Salvador Bayarri and Víctor Olaya. I'm not sure but I think that we'll be around 6-8 people related to gvSIG project coming from different organizations. Regards, Miguel Montesinos gvSIG Team PRODEVELOP -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) Enviado el: miércoles, 10 de septiembre de 2008 19:13 Para: OSGeo Discussions Asunto: [OSGeo-Discuss] Projects at FOSS4G I'm curious about how many different projects (OSGeo and others) will be represented at FOSS4G by speakers, workshops, etc. Rather than wade through the presentation listing, I thought I'd be lazy and ask here. If you know that your project(s) are going to be represented there, could you drop me a note? Just let me know in general how many folks from it will be there. If there are enough people around we could arrange times for people to meet your project at the OSGeo booth. It would also help to know if your project has plans to bring flyers or brochures to hand out at the booth. The OSGeo Marketing Committee is arranging to have some overview brochures. Also, all projects and committees are welcome to do a brief talk at the Annual General Meeting.[1] It had great turnout last year and was very informative! Just sign up if you want to talk or add an item to the list for debate/discussion during the meeting. Tyler [1] AGM: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Annual_General_Meeting_2008 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] RV: [Gvsig_english] Collaboration in the internationalization of gvSIG
Hello to everybody, I forward this message sent to several mailing lists, as I think it's important for the community. Regards Miguel Montesinos gvSIG Team PRODEVELOP -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: martes, 09 de septiembre de 2008 9:40 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: [Gvsig_english] Collaboration in the internationalization of gvSIG Dear users, For some time the project gvSIG has a new website [1], complementing the original Website of the project [2]. This site aims to become the site of the Community gvSIG, being its meeting point and the place where gvSIG and Free Geomatic related knowledge could be shared. One of the main functions of this site is to have the maximum possible documentation, for both users and developers. Having not only software but also documentation in multiple languages is a major objective of this portal. The gvSIG project provides the necessary infrastructure to produce and maintain the documentation published on this website in several languages. The current documentation is fully available in Spanish and almost all the user documentation in English too. The developers documentation is being translated into English and the user one is being translated to German and Italian thanks to the efforts and participation of groups of friends of the gvSIG Community. It is important to have a maximum of documents translated into English because it is the fastest way to be translated into other languages. If you want to collaborate and help to improve gvSIG project and it's documentation, you can do it by becoming a member of one of the translating groups that are being created in various languages, both translating and reviewing the translations-finding possible errors in translation or even giving suggestions or improvements. To do this you should contact Mario Carrera ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). You don't need to be an expert in translation, just having a desire to collaborate with the gvSIG project [1] http://www.gvsig.org [2] http://www.gvsig.gva.es Virtual News Office gvSIG project Ministry of Infrastructure and Transport ___ Gvsig_internacional mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://runas.cap.gva.es/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source development metrics
Landon, on the other hand, following that logic, if forking is advisable, it will keep on growing, with new forks, new forks-of-the-fork, and so on. The energy needed to keep all that project forkhood somehow synchronized is not only honest, but discouraging and efectiveless. I don't see neither how a user can simply make a proper decission among a fork-hood. Not everybody is expert enough to understand differences, or has enough time to download several forks and compare them (continously in time). Are really all the differences among forks impossible to reconcile, using that 'honest effort'? ;-) Miguel De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de Landon Blake Enviado el: mié 28/05/2008 16:27 Para: OSGeo Discussions Asunto: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source development metrics Bruce, I agree with Puneet. In this scenario it would make more sense for the organization to maintain their own fork of the code to which improvements can be made. This really doesn't cause problems for the parent of the fork as long as there is an established process and some honest effort made to integrate the best of the improvements back into the parent code base. This is actually how OpenJUMP works. There are only a handful of developers that actually work on the parent code base. Most of our contributors maintain their own fork, but siphon back improvements to the parent. Landon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:00 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Cc: Aust-NZ OSGeo Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source development metrics IMO: An issue has come up recently on the OSGeo-AustNZ list that I'd appreciate some feedback from our wider OSGeo Community. The context of this issue is that we are exploring ways to support development of the GeoNetwork ANZLIC Profile. In particular, we're looking at options that allow permanent staff to contribute to ongoing OS development work outside of normal Project based development with its well defined deliverables and timeframes. In Australia within the public sector and also in many larger private organisations there is a Human Resources process in place that is based on Performance Management. This process allows either staff or managers to initiate discussions that allow for goal based work to be undertaken. In principal both parties agree to a set of goals. If the goals are met, it contributes to the employee's remuneration review. What I'm trying to find are some examples of generic metrics that are meaninful to Open Source development methodologies. They must be specific, meaningful and measurable. For example, we could look at measures such as: Get feature X accepted into the trunk of GeoNetwork by June 2009 However this is probably unrealistic as to do this the developer will have to have existing credibility within the community and there may be good reasons why the community does not want to have 'product X' included. Does anyone have any examples that they use or thoughts on the above? I do understand that metrics can be abused, may be meaningless and may not be the best way to handle this, however we have to start somewhere. We have a window of opportunity to get some more developers working on OS projects as the Performance Planning cycle re-starts shortly and I'd like to help our developers get some constructive ideas to take into their sessions. Bruce Bannerman Notice: This email and any attachments may contain information that is personal, confidential, legally privileged and/or copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. It is the responsibility of the recipient to check for and remove viruses. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by return email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. You are not authorised to use, communicate or rely on the information contained in this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email. Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (aswith ESRI)?
Hello Mohamed, It's under development in gvSIG. Within this year (rough approximation) a new version whould be published with advanced symbology support as well as other features. If interested, you may have a look at the gvSIG road map [1] Regards [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=funcionalidadesL=2%2Findex.php%3Fid%3DK=1L=2 - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mohamed Ghareeb Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:14 PM To: 'OSGeo Discussions' Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (aswith ESRI)? Concerning OpenJump it is really good but I couldn't make a pie chart map with it as I could do with Arcview 3.x I added the charts plugin but I think It doesn't classify the size of charts symbol. Does anyone can do it by any open-source GIS? Mohamed Mostafa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:36 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)? A convert! Welcome Jennifer. I can't speak for GRASS, but I know that OpenJUMP (http://jump-pilot.sourceforge.net/OpenJUMP.html) could be compared to the old 3.X Arcview. It has limited printing abilities at this point in time, but I don't think there is a better cross-platform tool for basic ESRI Shapefile manipulation. (I'm a volunteer on the project and therefore biased in my opinion on this matter.) I think you will find you can do 95% of what you could with ESRI software, you'll just have to do it with an assortment of tools instead of a single tool. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Horsman Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:41 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)? The thread that was started today with the subject Your open source career got me thinking about asking a question that has been rolling around in my head. This is pointed at those people who have experience with ESRI products as well as OS GIS products. I have been a long-time user of ESRI products, but I want to start my own contract business and will not be able to afford the license for ArcGIS/ArcInfo. So I recently set up a Linux box with GRASS installed, but it has been over 10 years since I have used GRASS (it has probably changed since then too!) Does GRASS have the same analysis and display capabilities as ArcGIS? I know this is a very general question, so perhaps another question would be where does GRASS fall short and where does it excel in comparison to the ESRI products? Thanks, Jennifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OS and Proprietary
Everytime I listen this discussion about proprietary vs. open-source software, a lot of feelings, impressions and opinions come up. Talking about subjective things it's funny, but it doesn't help newcomers, nor it's professional. In the meanwhile the dark-side ;) keeps on spreading the same rumours. Only through a serious comparison anybody can get the picture. Does anybody have or know a base feature table, so that we could fill in with proprietary and OS fulfillment? [1] IMHO is quite generic, and does not include non-OS features. Non-ArcXXX should also be considered (I've also worked with non-ESRI products, and they offer really good features). Anybody open to work in this direction? This way, anybody will be able to compare with real and common informationn and I'm sure that One additional point. When migrating desktop GIS from proprietary to OS software, it's usual to hace different levels of users. A big number of users (80% according to some gvSIG studies) use a small percentage of available functionalities. So it is recommended that a gradual migration could be done. [1] http://www.spatialserver.net/osgis/Desktopgis_overview.htm http://www.spatialserver.net/osgis/Desktopgis_overview.htm Regards - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Grobler Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:35 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OS and Proprietary Hi Micha Dan re: Ease of use - This is great news! It really gets me excited, working with Q-GIS probably should have given me a clue. Puneet, in short neither, took out a loan to get ArcView and have to finish work from previous employer before I can start to earn money. Please note I didn't complain about cost of entry, just stated which choices I faced, which I think suited the discussion at that point. André Grobler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OS and Proprietary
Mateusz, I'm looking forward for the results of the project. If anyone in the project needs some information about gvSIG project, please let us know. We'll try to provide requested information. Cheers - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:51 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OS and Proprietary Miguel Montesinos wrote: Does anybody have or know a base feature table, so that we could fill in with proprietary and OS fulfillment? [1] IMHO is quite generic, and does not include non-OS features. Non-ArcXXX should also be considered (I've also worked with non-ESRI products, and they offer really good features). Anybody open to work in this direction? Miguel, Perhaps, Cascadoss (http://www.cascadoss.eu/) project will answer to some of these questions with outcome of their FOSS4GIS evaluation. I don't know any details, so we will need to wait until June when Cascadoss Symposion is planned. Greetings -- Mateusz Loskot http://mateusz.loskot.net ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
Hi, Just one note. Javax.comm.* only runs on Solaris and Windows. If you need Linux, Mac OS X, ... support, you'll need other plug-ins for original Sun package. Here you have one GPL project we're using at gvSIG[1] I've not used AT commands and GPRS communications in Java, but have done in C++. One advise: think in all possible problems, link failures, coverage problems, ... They'll certainly happen ;-) Regards [1] http://www.rxtx.org/ - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:44 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API dorra labidi wrote: Hello all; I am developping a fleet management application using java. I need to connect to the GPS box using GPRS network. My question: Is there a java API for the GPRS connection? AFAIK, there is no dedicated GPRS API. Instead, you can use Java Comm API [1] and issue AT commands to GPRS modem manually to establish and control connection. After connection is established, you can use sockets to exchange data. That's the common solution I'm aware of. [1] http://java.sun.com/products/javacomm/index.jsp -- Mateusz Loskot http://mateusz.loskot.net ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
Hi Dorra, I don't know your requisites, but are you really sure you need to program low-level GPRS communications? I mean, if you have a device with a right set-up, it will automatically connect to your GPRS/UMTS/HSDPA provider whenever any process needs an IP connection. For instance in gvSIG Mobile, we use gnu.io to connect to a GPS through a serial port, but we don't need to program any specific communications software to access a remote WMS service. The device automatically starts-up the connection when the application tries to reach an URL. You can test this by openning your Internet browser in the device and typing any URL. The device should try to connect automatically. Does this help? Cheers - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dorra labidi Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:22 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API Hi Miguel, Thank you for your advice; No problem for the OS; my Os is windows. Do you think that the GPRS connexion depends on the GPS device? The javax.comm.*, as far as I know, offer 3 connection types: serial,parallel and using sockets. In my case; I have two parameter for the connexion: the APN and the port number. Perhaps, should I deal with the APN as an URL and the connexion will be set up transparently? Miguel Montesinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi, Just one note. Javax.comm.* only runs on Solaris and Windows. If you need Linux, Mac OS X, ... support, you'll need other plug-ins for original Sun package. Here you have one GPL project we're using at gvSIG[1] I've not used AT commands and GPRS communications in Java, but have done in C++. One advise: think in all possible problems, link failures, coverage problems, ... They'll certainly happen ;-) Regards [1] http://www.rxtx.org/ - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:44 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API dorra labidi wrote: Hello all; I am developping a fleet management application using java. I need to connect to the GPS box using GPRS network. My question: Is there a java API for the GPRS connection? AFAIK, there is no dedicated GPRS API. Instead, you can use Java Comm API [1] and issue AT commands to GPRS modem manually to establish and control connection. After connection is established, you can use sockets to exchange data. That's the common solution I'm aware of. [1] http://java.sun.com/products/javacomm/index.jsp -- Mateusz Loskot http://mateusz.loskot.net ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Envoyé avec Yahoo! Mail http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mailuk/taglines/isp/control/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=52423/*http://fr.docs.yahoo.com/mail/overview/index.html . Une boite mail plus intelligente. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: RE : RE: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
Hello again, if you can send commands to the GPS receiver through the serial port, then you can program an access from your application in the same way. You can use javax.comm.* or gnu.io to get access to serial ports. Once you have that, it's up to you to communicate with the receiver. I don't see the needing to access through GPRS. FYI, you can have a look at the wource code of gvSIG Mobile [1]. It uses GpsTools (which depends on gnu.io for serial access) for managing communication with the GPS (NMEA parsing, ...). You can look for it at the libGPS library. If I'm missing sg. don't hesitate to keep on asking. Regards [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=piloto-gvsigL=2 - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dorra labidi Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:49 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE : RE: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API Hi Miguel; The GPS device is a hardware equipment; there is no OS; it can detect the GPRS signals; it accepts commands and send NMEA frames (frames that contain the geographic position od the device; speed, ..etc), collected from the satellite...My problem is how to send commands to it via the GPRS network. NB: I can send ommand through the serial port or the HyperTerminal... Anyway; thank you for your time. Miguel Montesinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi Dorra, I don't know your requisites, but are you really sure you need to program low-level GPRS communications? I mean, if you have a device with a right set-up, it will automatically connect to your GPRS/UMTS/HSDPA provider whenever any process needs an IP connection. For instance in gvSIG Mobile, we use gnu.io to connect to a GPS through a serial port, but we don't need to program any specific communications software to access a remote WMS service. The device automatically starts-up the connection when the application tries to reach an URL. You can test this by openning your Internet browser in the device and typing any URL. The device should try to connect automatically. Does this help? Cheers - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dorra labidi Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:22 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API Hi Miguel, Thank you for your advice; No problem for the OS; my Os is windows. Do you think that the GPRS connexion depends on the GPS device? The javax.comm.*, as far as I know, offer 3 connection types: serial,parallel and using sockets. In my case; I have two parameter for the connexion: the APN and the port number. Perhaps, should I deal with the APN as an URL and the connexion will be set up transparently? Miguel Montesinos a écrit : Hi, Just one note. Javax.comm.* only runs on Solaris and Windows. If you need Linux, Mac OS X, ... support, you'll need other plug-ins for original Sun package. Here you have one GPL project we're using at gvSIG[1] I've not used AT commands and GPRS communications in Java, but have done in C++. One advise: think in all possible problems, link failures, coverage problems, ... They'll certainly happen ;-) Regards [1] http://www.rxtx.org/ - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS?
Hello Cameron, In Spain there are several case studies. Valencian Regional Ministry of Infrastructure and Transport is under a project of migrating all systems to open-source software[1]. As a matter of fact, that was the reason to build gvSIG[2]. All geospatial infrastructure (previously with ESRI) has been moved to open source (gvSIG, PostGIS, MapServer, deegree, geoNetwork opensource).[2] Hydrographic Confederation of Guadalquivir river (Spain). A migration of a big part of ESRI components to open-source has been made, with use of gvSIG, Geonetwork opensource, MapServer, GeoServer, deegree [3] [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvpontisL=2 [2] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvsig0L=2 [3] http://www.orzancongres.com/administracion/upload/imgPrograma/N-004.pdf Sorry [3] is in Spanish. I can provide more if you need. Regards - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrea giacomelli Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:10 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? Hi, not sure about the time zones involved in Gary replying...I think he is referring to: http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/basins/fs-basins4.html Gary, please correct me if I am wrong ;) Regards, Andrea, aka pibinko http://pibinko.altervista.org 2008/1/29, Cameron Shorter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes Gary, that would be great. Do you know where we can find information about this? On Jan 29, 2008 2:07 PM, Gary Watry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would the U.S. EPA moving from ESRI to Open Source for their Watershed model help - Original Message - From: Cameron Shorter Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 21:39 Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? To: OSGeo Discussions After giving a presentation recently about Geospatial Open Source, weBR were asked whether there have been any case studies on migration to Geospatial Open Source. The audience were very sympathetic to Open Source, but felt is would be much easier to sell to upper management if they could draw upon experiences of other agencies who have done something similar. Can anyone point me to reports, or programs which have migrated from ESRI/Oracle applications (ArcGIS in particular) to Open Source equivalents? -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gary Watry Applications Developer/Designer Florida State University Office of Telecommunications 644 West Call Street Tallahassee, Fl 32306 Phone: 645-6904 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Geo Database
Hi, ¿Does anyone know about similar projects using object oriented databases, such as db4objects[1], which is a GPL product with native engines for Java, Java ME, Mono, .NET, ...? Cheers [1] http://www.db4o.com/ - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Hardisty Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:08 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Geo Database David and All, A nice up-and-coming open Java geodatabase format is H2 + spatial extensions. The H2 database is by the same guy that wrote that HSQL db. H2 has some good properties, most importantly, it's small (1 Mb), works well in embedded mode, and is fast. Adding in spatial data in JTS format, and providing a spatial index, is the basic concept. Two implementations that I know of are 1. The French research group IRSTV, lead programmer seems to be Erwan Bocher. http://geosysin.iict.ch/irstv-trac/wiki/H2spatial/Download 2. GeoTools has a H2 spatial module, written by Justin Deoliveira. Here's a link to the compiled jars: http://maven.geotools.fr/repository/org/geotools/gt2-h2/2.5-SNAPSHOT/ Both are under active development. regards, -Frank On Jan 14, 2008 3:14 PM, Sampson, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Folks, Just wondering if there is still thought out there from the previous thread about a portable and open geodatabase. I came across the nemesis project an experimental finite element code. Utilizes SQLite to store, handle and retrieve geometry and analysis data. http://www.nemesis-project.org/index.php/Main_Page Thought that might be a good place to start that is already using geometry in sqlite. As for software adoptions it looks like GRASS already has an SQLITE driver. QGIS looks hopeful. Here is a GRASS/QGIS-SQLITE tutorial http://whatnick.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-sqlite-with-qgis-grass-tool box.html GDAL has some SQLITE http://www.gdal.org/ogr/drv_sqlite.html Just some more info for the fire. Cheers ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Frank Hardisty [EMAIL PROTECTED] GeoVISTA Center 210 Walker Building Dutton e-Education Institute 415 Earth and Engineering Sciences Building 814-867-1471 http://www.geovista.psu.edu/grants/cdcesda/software/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [postgis-users] A bit off topic, but FOSSGIS clients...
Markus Lupp said: Paul Ramsey schrieb: Also, wasn't there a FOSS4G presentation about consulting as a way to further FOSS GIS development and make a living at it as well? Bit of a myth, as far as I can tell. This open source technology wedge is still so small that the business opportunities remain relatively tiny, particularly in North America, where the technology base is so homogenous and the mental lock-in to a vendor-led mentality so strong. Not a myth in Europe (or to be more precise, at least in Germany). There is a number of (growing) companies that have FOSS GIS consulting business models and do pretty well. I would say that in other european countries, FOSSGIS don't have so much presence as it happens in Germany. In Spain, there are a good number of companies making money out of FOSSGIS (maybe less than in Germany), but it's not the same (I think) in other countries like UK, Italy,.. Am I wrong? Paul Ramsey said: Everyone should drop their projects and work on uDig. But all the gvSIG developers are supported by funding from Spanish government that requires all the work be GPL; and they also prefer a pure Java implementation to the SWT/Eclipse implementation that uDig uses. And the OpenJUMP people have an existing rich set of editing tools that are not easily portable to the uDig application model. Are they going to throw away all their existing functionality to move to another platform? Why? OpenJUMP works fine for them. I agree Paul. Diversity is richness. Every community may have its place under the sun. Otherwise, it's true that is a pity not sharing more resources on common tasks. Regarding gvSIG, GPL is a *must* for the project. Other things about technology (like Swing vs.SWT) are just decissions made in a moment under some constraints, and as all technical decissions, must be open to change if necessary. Regarding merges, I prefer some approaches like the case of openLayers and other WebMapping projects. I think that pure merges do not exist, it's usually a project taking over another one, or a project moving to a new one. And just a quote. 70% of gvSIG funding come from European Union, and they do not require a special license, it's a decission of the PSC. Oh, and I agree Andrea, fun is the only way to produce good software, and specially good open-source softwre. Regards, - Miguel Montesinos Technical Manager PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es https://www.prodevelop.es/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Reflections on the Jornadas gvSIG
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnulf Christl Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:49 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Reflections on the Jornadas gvSIG Jo Walsh wrote: dear all, I got a lot out of the Jornadas gvSIG 3-day user/developer meeting last week, and wanted to share a few notes with la comunidad ingles-hablante. One thing that jumped out is the strength of positive language about software libre amongst the user community; not just acceptance, but promotion of free software and public data in general, at the highest levels of public administration. I wrote a little more about this on the OKFN blog: http://blog.okfn.org/2007/11/20/keeping-open-libre/ Another highlight was getting to sit in on the Libro SIG group meeting, concentrating the local OSGeo-istas. This is a hive of energetic and committed seeming people, with half a free GIS book written already, a lot on the mathematics behind analysis techniques contributed by Victor Olaya of the SEXTANTE project, which sounds like a sort of Java OSSIM. The whole question or marshalling a lot of different translators and contributors to a book in potentially many different languages is a fascinating one. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Libro_SIG - a GIS book that is free rather than a book about free and open GIS tools specifically. gvSIG is on close terms with GeoNetwork and Jeroen was there giving a couple of talks. Metadatos are increasingly attended to, partly due to the pressure from the INSPIRE SDI Directive in Europe. The metadata plugin which Michael Gould's group has undere development will one day share state with and encourage contributions from other plugins. There's also a nice amount of connection from gvSIG to OpenStreetmap, both in terms of people like Ivan Sanchez and Miguel Montesinos, and in the software in terms of UI integration and data re-use. The talks at the Jornadas were mostly oriented towards the user community - policymakers, planners, researchers and educators - the technical depth and excitement seemed rather higher in the gvSIG talks at FOSS4G. One thing that stood out for me was the absense of visible commercial culture really hanging around the event. There were a few sponsored sessions (Eclipse, SGI) but no booths, some poster presentations but no promotional material on display. I cast my mind back to what so amazed me at FOSSGIS in Berlin last March; stalls and displays for a dozen, maybe two, open source and open hardware oriented commercial consultancies. I wonder why there's not more evidence of this sort of thing here. There seems no obvious impedance, there's so much apparent enthusiasm for tecnologia libre in the public authority market, which in its regionalism and municipality is not so different from how it looks in Germany. I wonder how (and if!) this sort of thing can be encouraged... In Germany a fair amount of ground work has been done educating people about Free and Open Source Software since the last millennium (starting in 1999 with intevation's work and later the start of freegis.org). This might arguably be one of the reasons why commercial backing for FOSSGIS is good. Later this effort was specifically focused at GIS service providers, spatial data providers and education (the last one being the hardest). In short, it takes a lot of work and a lot of time. I do not know of any recipe that works overnight. Jo, I think that there are different reasons for that apparent lack of commercial support (the sponsors made a big funding effort to support the event, commercial information was included in the laptop bags, there were some displays, ...), but it was decided not to use booths this time. Maybe it's a good suggestion for next year. Regarding the impedance, I can see more and more spanish consultancy firms coming into open source business models, but maybe we are used to make business in a more close way here in Spain, with direct contact. Or maybe we are just lacking some opportunities :-( Jo, unfortunately I didn't make it to the Spain - good to know that OSGeo was well recepted and that the gvSIG folks are full of FOSS. You will have to explain to me why this works so well in Europe and is not so well accepted in NA, I don't understand it. Maybe it's because the main closed-GIS software is made by NA companies with much more day by day touch with local companies, and much more influence on governments than here in Europe. One thing that I learned during the last years - and your report fully confirms this - is that the Free bit in Open Source has to be set to really get across the full message. Yes, it is harder to sell Free Software than to surprise people by saying You can have Open Source for free (gratis); But in the long run it pays off because then people really understand that you can
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for articles (GeoConnexion magazine)
Hi, Michael, I'm member of gvSIG team (PMC, TMC, ...). We are also developing gvSIG Mobile, an open source GIS/SDI client for mobile devices. I think it could be a good idea for an article. If you think it's interesting, give more deatils, please. Thanks for the proposal - Miguel Montesinos Technical Manager PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael P. Gerlek Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:31 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for articles (GeoConnexion magazine) Dear OSGeo community: Our friends at GeoConnexions are running a special issue in Feb with a focus on Open Source / Open Geodata (copy deadline is Dec 14th). This is a great chance for the Open Data folks -- and the rest of us Open Code types -- to get some media exposure. Please contact me if you're interested in submitting something, and I can provide more details and/or put you in touch with the GeoConnexion editor. -mpg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] a SOAP bubble
Hi, I agree the comments about SOAP problems. Nevertheless the most known problems are related to XML more than SOAP specifically, and that's what OGC standards use: XML, as a matter of fact that's the reason why some standards like WFS are quite improvable. So, I think we won't face a new technical disaster, but a standardization challenge. Ragards - Miguel Montesinos Technical Manager PRODEVELOP e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Sean Gillies Enviado el: jueves, 12 de julio de 2007 23:36 Para: OSGeo Discussions Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] a SOAP bubble Jo Walsh wrote: dear all, The Draft Implementing Rules for Network Services for geodata as part of the European Spatial Data Infrastructure (INSPIRE) are going to be published before too long, and when they are, they will mandate SOAP for interfacing with all OGC web services. 'What?' one cries. 'SOAP [...]'. And the poor European Commission are going to have to listen to a lot of opinions about what a good and what a bad thing this is for people writing geographic information software and trying to get public authorities in Europe to use it. It would be so great to collect some kind of real numbers looking outside the GI domain even. Like back when there was a SOAP bubble a few years ago and Google, Amazon et al ran parallel SOAP and REST style services. Google dropped SOAP for GMaps. Could we get those kinds of numbers? Is anyone in GIS really supporting SOAP enough that one could get comparative realworld numbers? I would also be really interested in getting impact assessment from client software of an change like this - like SOAP support would be a big deal for an intentionally light-footprint package like OpenLayers. Any thoughts at all welcome here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/SOAP jo http://www.somebits.com/weblog/tech/bad/whySoapSucks.html From Nelson Minar, who worked on several SOAP services for Google. Sean ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
