[OSGeo-Discuss] Comparison of Mobile GIS applications
Hello to all, I'm preparing a presentation for the FOSS4G, with title "Comparison of Mobile GIS applications". I know some, but I think that the best way to make an objective analysis is to offer the chance for anyone to collaborate, in order to define common feature lists as well as perfomance or usability check lists. Is anyone developing or using a mobile geospatial application interested? Regards, --------- Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is the integration of FOSS4G and proprietary software good for FOSS4G?
Hello, I also agree to spread open source software on as many places as possible, and let the users decide based on their experience. So it seems, we all agree. Do you think a different point of view would arise if, for instance, a project like pgRouting would port to run also on top of Oracle Locator/Spatial? What would be the point of view for PostGIS project? I'm very interested in knowing PostGIS' people thoughts, so thanks in advance. Best, Miguel Montesinos De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] En nombre de Ragi Burhum Enviado el: jueves, 18 de marzo de 2010 17:23 Para: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is the integration of FOSS4G and proprietary software good for FOSS4G? +1 on what Daniel said. Personally, my interest lies on having successful, productive, - *happy* - users. Not on persuading anyone from one philosophy to another one. - Ragi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Is the integration of FOSS4G and proprietary software good for FOSS4G?
Hello, I throw out a question some people are debating in Spain [1 (only Spanish)]. Sextante has the intention (or at least have thought about it) of building bindings so that it can be used from proprietary applications, like ArcGIS. 1) Do you think that it may avoid proprietary users to migrate to open solutions, as they can benefit of open-source libraries under their proprietary software? Besides, this give arguments to proprietary manufacturers because of the weakness of open-source software needing to run on top of proprietary ones, or to sell out their compatibility with FOSS4G. 2) Do you think that it may lead proprietary users to try out and migrate to open source solutions due to the good impression they can have after using FOSS4G? Besides, this could generate incomes to improve FOSS4G developments, and offer alternatives to proprietary extensions, drivers, ... What is your oppinion about this tricky question? Best, [1] http://sextantegis.blogspot.com/ - Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mobile shootout at FOSS4G 2010?
For sure Andrea, hope to try it soon ;-) There's also gvSIG Mini [1], aimed at the mass market, not an ArcPad-like. [1] http://www.gvsigmini.org Miguel > -Mensaje original- > De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] > En > nombre de andrea antonello > Enviado el: martes, 22 de diciembre de 2009 10:38 > Para: OSGeo Discussions > Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mobile shootout at FOSS4G 2010? > > Hei boys, don't forget geopaparazzi, soon on your androids :) > It has a particular target but can IMHO be considered: > http://www.geopaparazzi.eu/ > > Andrea > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Stefan Steiniger wrote: > > Hei, > > > > well so it would be ArcPad (1) vs. gvSIG Mobile Pilot (2)? > > because these are the only platforms I know of that are (1) heavily used and > > (2) FOS. Or does anybody know other FOS mobile clients too? > > The latter info would be highly appreciate becasue then I could revise nmy > > article sections on that which points only to gvSIG Mobile right now ;) > > > > stefan > > > > Miguel Montesinos schrieb: > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> Thinking about OSGeo desktop shootout, I think that also having a mobile > >> shootout comparison of both closed and open source mobile GIS/SDI clients > >> would be of high interest, for showing that there are a full range of > >> solutions from the DB to the mobile device using open source software. > >> > >> Any ideas about this? > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> - > >> Miguel Montesinos > >> Director Técnico > >> PRODEVELOP, S.L. > >> mmontesinos [en] prodevelop [punto] es > >> www.prodevelop.es > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Discuss mailing list > >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >> > >> > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Mobile shootout at FOSS4G 2010?
Hello, Thinking about OSGeo desktop shootout, I think that also having a mobile shootout comparison of both closed and open source mobile GIS/SDI clients would be of high interest, for showing that there are a full range of solutions from the DB to the mobile device using open source software. Any ideas about this? Regards, - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [en] prodevelop [punto] es www.prodevelop.es ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?
Hello, I think that a simple comparison to what ArcGIS does is limitating. Several issues arises: - Why compare to ArcGIS 9.3 and not Geomedia, MapInfo,...? - What about features that OS GIS desktops provides not present in ArcGIS 9.3? I'd rather have a comparison among all of them under equal conditions, for instance a feature comparison based on the maximum features all products offer, as well as a perfomance analysis. For this, a common dataset of both file and service based data should be available. In Spain there are "a lot" of public official geodata which could be used as test datasets. I also like very much Paul Ramsey's approach about what I like and what I don't made by people belonging to different projects. Regards, --------- Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es <http://www.prodevelop.es/> Miguel Montesinos De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] En nombre de Daniel Ames Enviado el: lunes, 21 de diciembre de 2009 19:25 Para: Maxim Dubinin; OSGeo Discussions Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010? Folks, I like the structured comparison approach that Cameron outlined. Also equally (or perhaps more useful) would be to put together a wiki page with goals and benchmarks based on ArcGIS 9.3. And then indicate where the os packages compare. This would provide us with the ability to answer the most important question which is "can this do what the proprietary software does." For example, we could post a couple of maps made in AG and then challenge each desktop team to create and upload the same maps. Etc. I have a line shapefile with 200 shapes. We could upload it and have everyone do some timing to show how fast to load,pan, etc on the data. This could also serve as a way for some of the teams to see their own deficiencies and find critical tasks to work on (they could then update their reporting on the wiki and indicate the version number)... - Dan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Question about FOSS4G Business Models
Hi Rafal, I've been mentioned, so I'm involved ;-) I can give you some generic hints. I suggest (if you haven't) having a look at Wikinomics [1]. Regarding gvSIG, there are not metric data collected so far. I can tell you that companies (not only Iver and Prodevelop) working around gvSIG, started sharing traditional closed business models (I call them deprived models, because they limit what you can do with the software) with open-source ones, and the results happily "forced" us to leave deprived models towards an open-source one. AFAIK, we both have no new incomes from deprived models, but old legacy systems under maintenance. The only metric that I can provide you is that at Prodevelop, our revenues have increased 160 % in a 4 year period "mainly" due to the adoption of FOSS4G business models. Another contribution to this can be made by Luis W. Sevilla, who (if I'm not wrong) recently convinced his managers to move to open source business models. [1] http://www.wikinomics.com Regards, --------- Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es > -Mensaje original- > De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] > En > nombre de Luis W. Sevilla > Enviado el: viernes, 18 de diciembre de 2009 13:36 > Para: OSGeo Discussions > Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Question about FOSS4G Business Models > > Hi > As I have some perspective about gvSIG (I was directly involved last 6 > years), I may suggest you to contact directly with people in charge of > the project both in main founder and two main contractors: > CIT (Generalitat Valenciana): Martín García or Gabriel Carrión > IVER: Pepe Vidal or Alvaro Anguix > Prodevelop: Miguel Montesinos. > This may be the best path for starting, as far as I know. > > Greetings > Luis > > P.S. If you need some of the email addresses, please write to me by > private email. > > Rafal Wawer wrote: > > Dear Daniele, > > No need to be sorry. The hasty was with the " (-; " (-: > > Anyway - please consider reformulating the sentence. I will suggest > > contacting someone from gvSIG (http://www.gvsig.org/web/) and ask for > > help - I am sure gvSIG wil be happy to cooperate. > > I am looking forward to the final document. (-: > > Cheers: > > Raf > > > > Dr. Rafal Wawer > > K.U.Leuven > > R&D Division SADL (Spatial Application Division) > > Celestijnenlaan 200e bus 2224 > > BE-3001 Leuven-Heverlee > > Belgium > > tel. 0032 16 329731 > > > > > > > > *From:* discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org > > [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *daniele.ocu ocu > > *Sent:* 15 December 2009 18:07 > > *To:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > *Subject:* [OSGeo-Discuss] Question about FOSS4G Business Models > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thank you very much for your considerations. I am also very thankful > > for the suggestions. I am sorry if the statements in the report > > appeared to be hasty but I totally agree with you, the research is > > only in the beginning and I will go on increasing the contact with the > > companies and lists you suggested. > > > > Daniele > > > > -- > > Researcher @ Osaka City University > > Graduate School for Creative Cities > > http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/gistrends > > > > "My interest is in the future because I am going to spend the rest of > > my life there." > > - Charles F. Kettering > > > > > > > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] gvSIG Mini
Hi to everybody, we announce that gvSIG Mini has been born. gvSIG Mini is a brand-new open-source project (GNU/GPL) aimed at cellular phones. gvSIG Mini is a a free viewer of free access maps based on tile services, with WMS client, address searching, POIs, routing and more features. gvSIG Mini has been developed by Prodevelop. We are pleased to receive your comments, suggestions, contributions,... We are open to collaborate with anyone willing to use or modify this project, or work in similar ones. More information at http://www.gvsigmini.org Sorry for the "cross-posting" [1] https://gvsig.org/plugins/downloads Kind regards, Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. http://www.prodevelop.es <>___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Remote routing solutions
Hi, As an example, we built a routing service for tourism pruposes using only FOSS. Components were these: - DB PostGIS - Routing service: Customization of gvSIG routing capabilities adapted for running on Java EE container (Tomcat). - Interface: Web service - Client: 2 clients: * Web client, open-layers based * Mobile client: Java CLDC brand new app. We had to use our own routing service, as we were using public administration official cartography, with tourist info. The routing service had the following capabilities: - Point to point calculation (fastest path) - TSP (Travel Salesman Problem) - On foot / car transport method - Tourist places near to the route just calculated - Route instructions (e.g. trun right on ...) Here you can have a look at the web client [1], sorry it's only in Spanish, but easy to understand (I suppose). Here you have a presentation [2] we made about the mobile side in the Spanish Free GIS days (like our national FOSS4G). It's only in Spanish but you have some slides with architectures components that can give you extra details. Everything developed is GPL, but our customer has to publish source code in its official forge and it's a pending task. Nevertheless if you need some code, just ask. [1] http://www.turismoextremadura.com/PINTUREX/live/PV.html [2] http://www.sigte.udg.edu/jornadassiglibre2009/uploads/Presentaciones/Pre s_3.odp Regards, Miguel > -Mensaje original- > De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] En > nombre de Mateusz Loskot > Enviado el: martes, 06 de octubre de 2009 23:04 > Para: Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > Asunto: [OSGeo-Discuss] Remote routing solutions > > Folks, > > May I kindly ask for a bit of brainstorming about > available and programmatically callable, > optionally usable, > optionally effective, > optionally robust > solutions of remote routing services? > > The use case is very simple: > 1) client is a non-Web thin client > 2) client has access to the Internet > 3) client knows two locations "start" and "destination" > 4) client wants to know how to travel from start to destination > > What are available options to achieve that? Where if availability means: > * accessible for public > * free of charge > * does not require to sign anything, > > Custom solutions built on OGC-enabled stack (e.g. PyWPS, etc.) is also > an option to discuss. > > Any input greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, > -- > Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net > Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Where are all the FOSS OGC Client implementations?
Hi Tim, Do you mean apart from OGC Registered products [1]? Regards, [1] http://www.opengeospatial.org/resource/products - Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es > -Mensaje original- > De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss- > boun...@lists.osgeo.org] En nombre de Tim Sutton > Enviado el: domingo, 28 de diciembre de 2008 5:19 > Para: OSGeo Discussions > Asunto: [OSGeo-Discuss] Where are all the FOSS OGC Client implementations? > > Hi Folks > > Has anyone made a table showing which FOSS projects provide client > implementations for the various OGC standards? > > I have a client who is trying to build an interoperable system based on OGC > standards. The OGC site lists the a heap of standards (see below from > http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards). > > Assuming I want to test the system with FOSS clients, has anyone created a > list of FOSS OGC clients that they can point me to? We won't be using all > the standards listed below, but having a complete list for reference would > be very worthwhile. > > I'm also interested to know if there are any gotchas - e.g. software XYZ > will only work against specific implementations of standard ABC > > Catalogue Service > CityGML > Coordinate Transformation > Filter Encoding > Geographic Objects > Geography Markup Language > Geospatial eXtensible Access Control Markup Language (GeoXACML) GML in JPEG > 2000 Grid Coverage Service KML Location Services (OpenLS) Observations and > Measurements Sensor Model Language Sensor Observation Service Sensor > Planning Service Simple Features Simple Features CORBA Simple Features > OLE/COM Simple Features SQL Styled Layer Descriptor Symbology Encoding > Transducer Markup Language Web Coverage Service Web Feature Service Web Map > Context Web Map Service Web Processing Service Web Service Common > > > Any pointers will be most appreciated! > > Regards > > > -- > Tim Sutton - QGIS Project Steering Committee Member (Release Manager) > == > Visit http://linfiniti.com to find out about: > * QGIS programming services > * Mapserver and PostGIS based hosting plans > * FOSS Consulting & Support Services > Skype: timlinux Irc: timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net > == ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can we use a LiveDVD for workshops and labs atFOSS4G 2009?
JFYI For some workshops, training courses and so on, in gvSIG, we use a Knoppix Live-DVD that runs on any PC, regardless its operative system. Regards Miguel Montesinos gvSIG Team PRODEVELOP De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de Dave Patton Enviado el: dom 19/10/2008 23:02 Para: OSGeo Discussions Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can we use a LiveDVD for workshops and labs atFOSS4G 2009? On 2008/10/19 1:30 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: > I'm wondering whether it will be achievable and desirable to use a > GeoFOSS LiveDVD as the only installed operating system at workshops > and labs at FOSS4G 2009. > So my questions to communities are: > > Do you and your project think you would commit to packaging your > project into a debian based LiveDVD before FOSS4G in October 2009? > > For presenters, would you want to add tutorial material to the > LiveDVD, which would mean using an Open licence like Creative > Commons? I would start by asking a different question - does anyone foresee any issue with not having MS Windows available as an option for Workshops/Labs for FOSS4G 2009? We might not want to restrict the discussion to "OSGeo projects". What if a Sponsor, or Exhibitor, or 'some software company', or 'some non-OSGeo project' submitted a proposal to deliver a Workshop/Lab, and it merited consideration for inclusion in the conference, but it required MS Windows? Were there Workshops/Labs at FOSS4G 2008 that could not have been delivered without having MS Windows? If we assume that there was 'some need' for MS Windows for FOSS4G 2009, but that it wasn't needed for "all the PCs", how would people react to Workshops/Labs that required MS Windows also requiring a higher registration fee? (i.e. higher by the incremental cost of the license to use MS Windows on the PC for the Workshop/Lab) P.S. It helps if everyone uses the term "Instructors" when referring to Workshops/Labs, because "Presenter" makes people think of "Presentations", and sometimes that causes confusion. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss <>___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESRI Spain conference incident
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de Dave Patton > Enviado el: sáb 18/10/2008 18:22 > Para: OSGeo Discussions > Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESRI Spain conference incident > > > On 2008/10/17 12:15 AM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote: >> Hi All, I resend this mail to OSGeo discuss because I think is a >> serious incident that cannot be obviated and shows how things are >> getting at least in Spanish market. > >> As Alvaro says, why they have this behavior with his colleagues? Maybe >> they fear FOSS companies? >> >> Anyway, all of you are invited to the gvSIG conf, even to discuss, >> it's free in both senses ;) > >ESRI was a sponsor at FOSS4G 2007, and had a Lab. >Who knows, maybe they will be involved somehow in >FOSS4G 2009(for sure they won't be excluded just >because they are viewed as competition for FOSS). "Viewed as competition for FOSS" -> Well, they say (I asked about it at ESRI's booth during both FOSS4G 2007 & 2008) that they have made some contributions to open-source, as the openness of shapefile format or offering WMS servers. :-D >Perhaps they can have a booth in the exhibition >(and maybe gvSIG wants to have a booth right next >to the ESRI booth ;-) For sure FOSS4G ESRI's attendees are much more polite (and clever) than their Spanish collegues. Maybe it would be wiser to make a request for a booth in the world annual ESRI's conference (I don't know nor want to, the exact name). Would they admit a FOSS4G booth (it doesn't matter which project could be) as we make at FOSS4G? It would be funny to see an OSGeo booth showing the integration capabilities of OSGeo projects against ESRI closed products, or even a comparison. > >-- >Dave Patton >CIS Canadian Information Systems >Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss <>___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Projects at FOSS4G
Tyler, regarding gvSIG project, we have the following participation: Speakers - gvSIG Status Report. Towards an open organization. Authors: Gabriel Carrión and Miguel Montesinos - gvSIG Mobile: How to code for desktop and mobile GIS/SDI. Authors: Javier Carrasco and Miguel Montesinos. - Improving open source GIS-SDI integration: the web service publishing extension for gvSIG. Salvador Bayarri. - Multipurpose metadata management in gvSIG. Laura Díaz - A free gvSIG-based graphical modeling tool. Víctor Olaya (SEXTANTE) Workshops - gvSIG + Sextante Workshop: Salvador Bayarri and Víctor Olaya. I'm not sure but I think that we'll be around 6-8 people related to gvSIG project coming from different organizations. Regards, Miguel Montesinos gvSIG Team PRODEVELOP > -Mensaje original- > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) > Enviado el: miércoles, 10 de septiembre de 2008 19:13 > Para: OSGeo Discussions > Asunto: [OSGeo-Discuss] Projects at FOSS4G > > I'm curious about how many different projects (OSGeo and others) will > be represented at FOSS4G by speakers, workshops, etc. Rather than > wade through the presentation listing, I thought I'd be lazy and ask > here. > > If you know that your project(s) are going to be represented there, > could you drop me a note? Just let me know in general how many folks > from it will be there. If there are enough people around we could > arrange times for people to "meet your project" at the OSGeo booth. > > It would also help to know if your project has plans to bring flyers > or brochures to hand out at the booth. The OSGeo Marketing Committee > is arranging to have some overview brochures. > > Also, all projects and committees are welcome to do a brief talk at > the Annual General Meeting.[1] It had great turnout last year and > was very informative! Just sign up if you want to talk or add an > item to the list for debate/discussion during the meeting. > > Tyler > > [1] AGM: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Annual_General_Meeting_2008 > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] RV: [Gvsig_english] Collaboration in the internationalization of gvSIG
Hello to everybody, I forward this message sent to several mailing lists, as I think it's important for the community. Regards Miguel Montesinos gvSIG Team PRODEVELOP -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: martes, 09 de septiembre de 2008 9:40 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: [Gvsig_english] Collaboration in the internationalization of gvSIG Dear users, For some time the project gvSIG has a new website [1], complementing the original Website of the project [2]. This site aims to become the site of the Community gvSIG, being its meeting point and the place where gvSIG and Free Geomatic related knowledge could be shared. One of the main functions of this site is to have the maximum possible documentation, for both users and developers. Having not only software but also documentation in multiple languages is a major objective of this portal. The gvSIG project provides the necessary infrastructure to produce and maintain the documentation published on this website in several languages. The current documentation is fully available in Spanish and almost all the user documentation in English too. The developers documentation is being translated into English and the user one is being translated to German and Italian thanks to the efforts and participation of groups of friends of the gvSIG Community. It is important to have a maximum of documents translated into English because it is the fastest way to be translated into other languages. If you want to collaborate and help to improve gvSIG project and it's documentation, you can do it by becoming a member of one of the translating groups that are being created in various languages, both translating and reviewing the translations-finding possible errors in translation or even giving suggestions or improvements. To do this you should contact Mario Carrera ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). You don't need to be an expert in translation, just having a desire to collaborate with the gvSIG project [1] http://www.gvsig.org [2] http://www.gvsig.gva.es Virtual News Office gvSIG project Ministry of Infrastructure and Transport ___ Gvsig_internacional mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://runas.cap.gva.es/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Access to DWG 2008
Thanks everybody for your help. I'll check your hints. Regards, Miguel Montesinos > -Mensaje original- > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Brent Fraser > Enviado el: jueves, 04 de septiembre de 2008 18:40 > Para: OSGeo Discussions > Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Access to DWG 2008 > > You could use AnyDWG (shareware and Windows only) to convert from DWG > 2008 to DWG (or DXF) 2000. > > http://anydwg.com/dwg-dxf/ > > Brent Fraser > > Miguel Montesinos wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I need to access a DWG file in Autocad 2008 (dwg) format. > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how to do it with an open-source application? > > > > > > > > gvSIG opens DWG 2000. But further versions of DWG are encrypted and > > their format are more than closed. > > > > > > > > I'm really fed up with these closed requirements! > > > > > > > > Any help will be appretiated. Even for crying purposes. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Miguel Montesinos > > > > Prodevelop > > > > > > - > --- > > > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Access to DWG 2008
Hello, I need to access a DWG file in Autocad 2008 (dwg) format. Does anyone know how to do it with an open-source application? gvSIG opens DWG 2000. But further versions of DWG are encrypted and their format are more than closed. I'm really fed up with these closed requirements! Any help will be appretiated. Even for crying purposes. Regards, Miguel Montesinos Prodevelop ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source development metrics
Landon, on the other hand, following that logic, if forking is advisable, it will keep on growing, with new forks, new forks-of-the-fork, and so on. The energy needed to keep all that project "forkhood" somehow synchronized is not only honest, but discouraging and efectiveless. I don't see neither how a user can simply make a proper decission among a fork-hood. Not everybody is expert enough to understand differences, or has enough time to download several forks and compare them (continously in time). Are really all the differences among forks impossible to reconcile, using that 'honest effort'? ;-) Miguel De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de Landon Blake Enviado el: mié 28/05/2008 16:27 Para: OSGeo Discussions Asunto: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source development metrics Bruce, I agree with Puneet. In this scenario it would make more sense for the organization to maintain their own fork of the code to which improvements can be made. This really doesn't cause problems for the parent of the fork as long as there is an established process and some honest effort made to integrate the best of the improvements back into the parent code base. This is actually how OpenJUMP works. There are only a handful of developers that actually work on the parent code base. Most of our contributors maintain their own fork, but siphon back improvements to the parent. Landon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 12:00 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Cc: Aust-NZ OSGeo Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source development metrics IMO: An issue has come up recently on the OSGeo-AustNZ list that I'd appreciate some feedback from our wider OSGeo Community. The context of this issue is that we are exploring ways to support development of the GeoNetwork ANZLIC Profile. In particular, we're looking at options that allow permanent staff to contribute to ongoing OS development work outside of normal Project based development with its well defined deliverables and timeframes. In Australia within the public sector and also in many larger private organisations there is a Human Resources process in place that is based on Performance Management. This process allows either staff or managers to initiate discussions that allow for goal based work to be undertaken. In principal both parties agree to a set of goals. If the goals are met, it contributes to the employee's remuneration review. What I'm trying to find are some examples of generic metrics that are meaninful to Open Source development methodologies. They must be specific, meaningful and measurable. For example, we could look at measures such as: "Get feature X accepted into the trunk of GeoNetwork by June 2009" However this is probably unrealistic as to do this the developer will have to have existing credibility within the community and there may be good reasons why the community does not want to have 'product X' included. Does anyone have any examples that they use or thoughts on the above? I do understand that metrics can be abused, may be meaningless and may not be the best way to handle this, however we have to start somewhere. We have a window of opportunity to get some more developers working on OS projects as the Performance Planning cycle re-starts shortly and I'd like to help our developers get some constructive ideas to take into their sessions. Bruce Bannerman Notice: This email and any attachments may contain information that is personal, confidential, legally privileged and/or copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. It is the responsibility of the recipient to check for and remove viruses. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by return email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. You are not authorised to use, communicate or rely on the information contained in this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email. Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. <>___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] FW: [Spanish] Fwd: [Gvsig_usuarios] SEXTANTE +forbidden country
Hello to everybody,
I forward a remarkable thread that is going on in the Spanish gvSIG User list.
I translate the original mesage from Renato Alonso (Geocuba):
"Hello to everybody,
I've just subscribed to the user & development gvSIG list, for we are in a
process of aiming our work towards gvSIG and collaborating with the results, as
a result of a new national project for GIS forest applications.
Due to the relationship we've begun to establish with gvSIG, we've received the
idea of SEXTANTE project, which we are interested to know. I've tried to enter
the site, but we are not allowed to access the information, with a message 'You
are accessing this page from a forbidden country'.
Do you know any other way to get information about SEXTANTE in order to
evaluate its technology, content, scope, that may help us to get the picture?
Greetings and thanks in advance"
The cause of this problem is that SEXTANTE project has its repository and its
download site hosted on googlecode.com, which is regulated by US laws, and
doesn't allow access to some countries like Cuba.
I send out some questions:
Should we *promote* avoiding the use of these kind of sites?
Is there any similar legal restriction in OSGeo resources?
Is there any legal conflict between a GPL license (SEXTANTE license) and a
country-based restriction site for publishing the code/binaries? (Of course not
messing with the friend Sextante project, but for warning people).
Regards,
-----
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Agustin
Diez Castillo
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:42 PM
To: Capítulo Local de la comunidad hispano-hablante
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Subject: [Spanish] Fwd: [Gvsig_usuarios] SEXTANTE +forbidden country
Ya tenemos otra razón para que el osgeo en español intente
volar libre; si nos ponen las normas ellos, ellos deciden.
Mando copia a Renato.
Renato si no conceces osGEO en español, a lo mejor te interesa. A
nosotros nos interesa que gente como tu esté aquí representada.
Inicio del mensaje reenviado:
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Fecha: May 20, 2008 5:16:04 PM GMT+02:00
Para: "Lista de Usuarios de gvSIG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Asunto: RE: [Gvsig_usuarios] SEXTANTE +forbidden country
Responder a: Lista de Usuarios de gvSIG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gvsig_usuarios-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Miguel Montesinos
Enviado el: martes, 20 de mayo de 2008 16:58
Para: Lista de Usuarios de gvSIG
Asunto: RE: [Gvsig_usuarios] SEXTANTE +forbidden country
Hola Renato,
he buscado el dominio y está registrado a nombre de la
Univ. de Extremadura (como
es lógico), y los DNS apuntan a IPs de España.
El mensaje en inglés es un poco sospechoso. ¿Seguro que
estás intentando acceder
a www.sextantegis.com?
Si entras a través de esta web, puede que se deba a que
la gente de Sextante
tiene el código estable en googlecode.com, y te deben
estar prohibiendo el acceso
los de google (¡en China los de google no son tan
exigentes!).
Seguro que consigues el código. No sé si hay
recursos/posibilidades de colgarlo
en los servidores de la Univ. Extremadura, pero si no
es así, podemos enviarte
cualquiera el ZIP (Sextante team -> ¿No hay problema,
verdad?)
¡La independencia tecnológica del software libre no es
un brindis al sol!
Saludos
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (aswith ESRI)?
Hello Mohamed, It's under development in gvSIG. Within this year (rough approximation) a new version whould be published with advanced symbology support as well as other features. If interested, you may have a look at the gvSIG road map [1] Regards [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=funcionalidades&L=2%2Findex.php%3Fid%3D&K=1&L=2 ----- Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mohamed Ghareeb >Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:14 PM >To: 'OSGeo Discussions' >Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with >OS (aswith ESRI)? > >Concerning OpenJump it is really good but I couldn't make a >pie chart map with it as I could do with Arcview 3.x I added >the charts plugin but I think It doesn't classify the size of >charts symbol. >Does anyone can do it by any open-source GIS? > >Mohamed Mostafa > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake >Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:36 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with >OS (as with ESRI)? > >A convert! Welcome Jennifer. > >I can't speak for GRASS, but I know that OpenJUMP >(http://jump-pilot.sourceforge.net/OpenJUMP.html) could be >compared to the old 3.X Arcview. It has limited printing >abilities at this point in time, but I don't think there is a >better cross-platform tool for basic ESRI Shapefile >manipulation. (I'm a volunteer on the project and therefore >biased in my opinion on this matter.) > >I think you will find you can do 95% of what you could with >ESRI software, you'll just have to do it with an assortment of >tools instead of a single tool. > >Landon > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Horsman >Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:41 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS >(as with ESRI)? > >The thread that was started today with the subject "Your open >source career" got me thinking about asking a question that >has been rolling around in my head. This is pointed at those >people who have experience with ESRI products as well as OS >GIS products. > >I have been a long-time user of ESRI products, but I want to >start my own contract business and will not be able to afford >the license for ArcGIS/ArcInfo. So I recently set up a Linux >box with GRASS installed, but it has been over 10 years since >I have used GRASS (it has probably changed since then too!) > >Does GRASS have the same analysis and display capabilities as >ArcGIS? I know this is a very general question, so perhaps >another question would be where does GRASS fall short and >where does it excel in comparison to the ESRI products? > >Thanks, >Jennifer > > > >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > >Warning: >Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed >against defects including translation and transmission errors. >If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of >this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >received this information in error, please notify the sender >immediately. >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OS and Proprietary
Mateusz, I'm looking forward for the results of the project. If anyone in the project needs some information about gvSIG project, please let us know. We'll try to provide requested information. Cheers ----- Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot >Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:51 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OS and Proprietary > >Miguel Montesinos wrote: >> Does anybody have or know a base feature table, so that we >could fill >> in with proprietary and OS fulfillment? [1] IMHO is quite >generic, and >> does not include non-OS features. Non-ArcXXX should also be >considered >> (I've also worked with non-ESRI products, and they offer really good >> features). >> >> Anybody open to work in this direction? > >Miguel, > >Perhaps, Cascadoss (http://www.cascadoss.eu/) project will >answer to some of these questions with outcome of their >FOSS4GIS evaluation. >I don't know any details, so we will need to wait until June >when Cascadoss Symposion is planned. > >Greetings >-- >Mateusz Loskot >http://mateusz.loskot.net >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OS and Proprietary
Everytime I listen this discussion about proprietary vs. open-source software, a lot of feelings, impressions and opinions come up. Talking about subjective things it's funny, but it doesn't help newcomers, nor it's professional. In the meanwhile the dark-side ;) keeps on spreading the same rumours. Only through a serious comparison anybody can get the picture. Does anybody have or know a base feature table, so that we could fill in with proprietary and OS fulfillment? [1] IMHO is quite generic, and does not include non-OS features. Non-ArcXXX should also be considered (I've also worked with non-ESRI products, and they offer really good features). Anybody open to work in this direction? This way, anybody will be able to compare with real and common informationn and I'm sure that One additional point. When migrating desktop GIS from proprietary to OS software, it's usual to hace different levels of users. A big number of users (80% according to some gvSIG studies) use a small percentage of available functionalities. So it is recommended that a gradual migration could be done. [1] http://www.spatialserver.net/osgis/Desktopgis_overview.htm <http://www.spatialserver.net/osgis/Desktopgis_overview.htm> Regards ----- Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andre Grobler Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:35 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OS and Proprietary Hi Micha & Dan re: Ease of use - This is great news! It really gets me excited, working with Q-GIS probably should have given me a clue. Puneet, in short neither, took out a loan to get ArcView and have to finish work from previous employer before I can start to earn money. Please note I didn't complain about "cost" of entry, just stated which choices I faced, which I think suited the discussion at that point. André Grobler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: RE : RE: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
Hello again,
if you can send commands to the GPS receiver through the serial port, then you
can program an access from your application in the same way.
You can use javax.comm.* or gnu.io to get access to serial ports. Once you have
that, it's up to you to communicate with the receiver. I don't see the needing
to access through GPRS.
FYI, you can have a look at the wource code of gvSIG Mobile [1]. It uses
GpsTools (which depends on gnu.io for serial access) for managing communication
with the GPS (NMEA parsing, ...). You can look for it at the libGPS library.
If I'm missing sg. don't hesitate to keep on asking.
Regards
[1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=piloto-gvsig&L=2
---------
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Director Técnico
PRODEVELOP
C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10
46004 Valencia. Spain
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tlf: +34 963510612
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dorra
labidi
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:49 PM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: RE : RE: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
Hi Miguel;
The GPS device is a hardware equipment; there is no OS; it can detect
the GPRS signals; it accepts commands and send NMEA frames (frames that contain
the geographic position od the device; speed, ..etc), collected from the
satellite...My problem is how to send commands to it via the GPRS network.
NB: I can send ommand through the serial port or the HyperTerminal...
Anyway; thank you for your time.
Miguel Montesinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
Hi Dorra,
I don't know your requisites, but are you really sure you need
to program low-level GPRS communications?
I mean, if you have a device with a right set-up, it will
automatically connect to your GPRS/UMTS/HSDPA provider whenever any process
needs an IP connection.
For instance in gvSIG Mobile, we use gnu.io to connect to a GPS
through a serial port, but we don't need to program any specific communications
software to access a remote WMS service. The device automatically starts-up the
connection when the application tries to reach an URL.
You can test this by openning your Internet browser in the
device and typing any URL. The device should try to connect automatically.
Does this help?
Cheers
-----
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Director Técnico
PRODEVELOP
C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10
46004 Valencia. Spain
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
dorra labidi
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:22 AM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
Hi Miguel, Thank you for your advice;
No problem for the OS; my Os is windows.
Do you think that the GPRS connexion depends on the GPS device?
The javax.comm.*, as far as I know, offer 3 connection types:
serial,parallel and using sockets.
In my case; I have two parameter for the connexion: the APN and
the port number. Perhaps, should I deal with the APN as an URL and the
connexion will be set up transparently?
Miguel Montesinos a écrit :
Hi,
Just one note. Javax.comm.* only runs on Solaris and Windows.
If you need Linux, Mac OS X, ... support, you'll need other "plug-ins" for
original Sun package.
Here you have one GPL project we're using at gvSIG[1]
I've not used AT commands and GPRS communications in Java, but
have done in C++. One advise: think in all possible problems, link failures,
coverage problems, ... They'll certainly happen ;-)
Regards
[1] http://www.rxtx.org/
--
RE: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
Hi Dorra,
I don't know your requisites, but are you really sure you need to program
low-level GPRS communications?
I mean, if you have a device with a right set-up, it will automatically connect
to your GPRS/UMTS/HSDPA provider whenever any process needs an IP connection.
For instance in gvSIG Mobile, we use gnu.io to connect to a GPS through a
serial port, but we don't need to program any specific communications software
to access a remote WMS service. The device automatically starts-up the
connection when the application tries to reach an URL.
You can test this by openning your Internet browser in the device and typing
any URL. The device should try to connect automatically.
Does this help?
Cheers
-----
Miguel Montesinos
Director Técnico
PRODEVELOP
C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10
46004 Valencia. Spain
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.prodevelop.es
Tlf: +34 963510612
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dorra
labidi
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:22 AM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: RE : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
Hi Miguel, Thank you for your advice;
No problem for the OS; my Os is windows.
Do you think that the GPRS connexion depends on the GPS device?
The javax.comm.*, as far as I know, offer 3 connection types:
serial,parallel and using sockets.
In my case; I have two parameter for the connexion: the APN and the
port number. Perhaps, should I deal with the APN as an URL and the connexion
will be set up transparently?
Miguel Montesinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
Hi,
Just one note. Javax.comm.* only runs on Solaris and Windows.
If you need Linux, Mac OS X, ... support, you'll need other "plug-ins" for
original Sun package.
Here you have one GPL project we're using at gvSIG[1]
I've not used AT commands and GPRS communications in Java, but
have done in C++. One advise: think in all possible problems, link failures,
coverage problems, ... They'll certainly happen ;-)
Regards
[1] http://www.rxtx.org/
-----
Miguel Montesinos
Director Técnico
PRODEVELOP
C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10
46004 Valencia. Spain
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.prodevelop.es
Tlf: +34 963510612
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot
>Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:44 PM
>To: OSGeo Discussions
>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
>
>dorra labidi wrote:
>> Hello all; I am developping a fleet management application
>using java.
>> I need to connect to the GPS box using GPRS network.
>>
>> My question: Is there a java API for the GPRS connection?
>
>AFAIK, there is no dedicated GPRS API. Instead, you can use
>Java Comm API [1] and issue AT commands to GPRS modem manually
>to establish and control connection. After connection is
>established, you can use sockets to exchange data.
>
>That's the common solution I'm aware of.
>
>[1] http://java.sun.com/products/javacomm/index.jsp
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API
Hi, Just one note. Javax.comm.* only runs on Solaris and Windows. If you need Linux, Mac OS X, ... support, you'll need other "plug-ins" for original Sun package. Here you have one GPL project we're using at gvSIG[1] I've not used AT commands and GPRS communications in Java, but have done in C++. One advise: think in all possible problems, link failures, coverage problems, ... They'll certainly happen ;-) Regards [1] http://www.rxtx.org/ ----- Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot >Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:44 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GPRS connection API > >dorra labidi wrote: >> Hello all; I am developping a fleet management application >using java. >> I need to connect to the GPS box using GPRS network. >> >> My question: Is there a java API for the GPRS connection? > >AFAIK, there is no dedicated GPRS API. Instead, you can use >Java Comm API [1] and issue AT commands to GPRS modem manually >to establish and control connection. After connection is >established, you can use sockets to exchange data. > >That's the common solution I'm aware of. > >[1] http://java.sun.com/products/javacomm/index.jsp >-- >Mateusz Loskot >http://mateusz.loskot.net >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [Gfoss] [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Last chance before cancelling: OSGeoHacking event in a monastry near Bolsena (Italy)!?
I agree with "there are tons of companies which are *exploiting* the GFOSS world itself, without giving anything or very little in return" But I disagree with >There are also other companies that strongly believe that an OS >developer should ask for less money than any other non OS >developers, or no money at all, because "he does that for the >community". Maybe people not working with OS may think that, but I think that people with some experience with OS thinks the opposite way. You need to have high-skilled abilities to understand core products in order to being able to adapt them, and that implies >= money than just using closed APIs. Jeroen, is the event definitely closed? Two collegues from Prodevelop wanted to assist, but they haven´t signed in the wiki. Miguel ----- Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simone >Giannecchini >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:24 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OSGeo Discussions >Cc: gfoss >Subject: Re: [Gfoss] [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Last chance before >cancelling: OSGeoHacking event in a monastry near Bolsena (Italy)!? > >>From my limited experience I can say that the number of GFOSS >developers is not small, not at all; the problem is that GFOSS >developers usually are quiet because they spend all the time >they have coding GFOSS software hence talking about what they >do is often considered a waste time (I am not supporting this >statement but that's what I have heard often..). I guess that, >to some extent, this is true for *any* software developer... > >IMHO, the limiting factor of the GFOSS is that there are tons >of companies which are *exploiting* the GFOSS world itself, >without giving anything or very little in return (IMHO saying >"we use GFOSS software so we support it" is not the best form >of support, but then again, it's a personal opinion). There >are also other companies that strongly believe that an OS >developer should ask for less money than any other non OS >developers, or no money at all, because "he does that for the >community". > >I think that the ongoing discussion on Service Provider >Prioritization should try to address these issues somehow. > >Simone. > > >On Feb 12, 2008 6:31 PM, Paolo Cavallini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Simone Giannecchini ha scritto: >> > Could you please explain what you mean to a "poor" OS developer? >> >> My feeling is that the number of available developers is small, and >> cannot be easily raised by reasonable amounts of money (ok, with 12 >> MEUR that's different...). I think there's an "availability >pit": you >> can find some productive developers willing to work for free/limited >> additional resources/based on their own resources, you can also find >> (many?) productive developers if you have lots of money, but in the >> middle there is a gap, so transition is not smooth. >> It would be nice to model all this in a more formal way (I'm a >> behavioural ecologist, after all...), but now these are just >thoughts, >> less than hypotheses. >> All the best. >> >> pc >> -- >> Paolo Cavallini, see: http://www.faunalia.it/pc >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > >-- >--- >Eng. Simone Giannecchini >President /CEO GeoSolutions S.A.S. >Via Carignoni 51 >55041 Camaiore (LU) >Italy > >phone: +39 0584983027 >fax: +39 0584983027 >mob:+39 333 8128928 > > >http://www.geo-solutions.it > >--- >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS?
Hi Cameron, Regarding Valencian Regional Ministry, I can ask about it. Probably there may be some presentation, and it should not be hard to translate into English as part of the spreading of the project. I can do that task. Regarding the Hydrographic Confederation, I'll contact them. The responsible of that project has moved to another Government Agency, so finding time may be difficult. But I'll encourage him. Cheers ----- Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter >Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:34 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to >Geospatial FOSS? > >Miguel, >Based upon my very limited Spanish, and skimming the titles, >these look like excellent case studies. > >Do you think these would be any chance of encouraging the >responsible departments to translate to English? > >The business case for a sponsor is that sponsoring a Case >Study will greatly increase the chance that other agencies >will also migrate to Open Source, which in turns means these >agencies will invest in Open Source which is good for all Open >Source users. > >Miguel Montesinos wrote: >> Hello Cameron, >> >> In Spain there are several case studies. >> >> Valencian Regional Ministry of Infrastructure and Transport >is under a >> project of migrating "all" systems to open-source software[1]. As a >> matter of fact, that was the reason to build gvSIG[2]. All >geospatial >> infrastructure (previously with ESRI) has been moved to open source >> (gvSIG, PostGIS, MapServer, deegree, geoNetwork opensource).[2] >> >> Hydrographic Confederation of Guadalquivir river (Spain). A >migration >> of a big part of ESRI components to open-source has been made, with >> use of gvSIG, Geonetwork opensource, MapServer, GeoServer, >deegree [3] >> >> [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvpontis&L=2 >> [2] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvsig0&L=2 >> [3] >> >http://www.orzancongres.com/administracion/upload/imgPrograma/N-004.pd >> f >> >> Sorry [3] is in Spanish. >> >> I can provide more if you need. >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> - >> >> Miguel Montesinos >> >> Director Técnico >> >> PRODEVELOP >> >> C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 >> >> 46004 Valencia. Spain >> >> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http://www.prodevelop.es >> >> Tlf: +34 963510612 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrea giacomelli >> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:10 AM >> To: OSGeo Discussions >> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating >to Geospatial FOSS? >> >> >> Hi, not sure about the time zones involved in Gary >replying...I think he is referring to: >> >> http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/basins/fs-basins4.html >> >> Gary, please correct me if I am wrong ;) >> >> Regards, >> >> Andrea, aka pibinko >> http://pibinko.altervista.org >> >> >> 2008/1/29, Cameron Shorter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> Yes Gary, that would be great. >> Do you know where we can find information about this? >> >> On Jan 29, 2008 2:07 PM, Gary Watry ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > Would the U.S. EPA moving from ESRI to Open >Source for their Watershed model help >> > >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: Cameron Shorter >> > Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 21:39 >> > Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for >migrating to Geospatial FOSS? >> > To: OSGeo Discussions >> > >> > > After giving a presentation recently about >Geospatial Open Source, we> were asked whether there have >been any case studies on migration to >> > > Geospatial Open Source. >&
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS?
Hello Cameron, In Spain there are several case studies. Valencian Regional Ministry of Infrastructure and Transport is under a project of migrating "all" systems to open-source software[1]. As a matter of fact, that was the reason to build gvSIG[2]. All geospatial infrastructure (previously with ESRI) has been moved to open source (gvSIG, PostGIS, MapServer, deegree, geoNetwork opensource).[2] Hydrographic Confederation of Guadalquivir river (Spain). A migration of a big part of ESRI components to open-source has been made, with use of gvSIG, Geonetwork opensource, MapServer, GeoServer, deegree [3] [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvpontis&L=2 [2] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvsig0&L=2 [3] http://www.orzancongres.com/administracion/upload/imgPrograma/N-004.pdf Sorry [3] is in Spanish. I can provide more if you need. Regards ----- Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrea giacomelli Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:10 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? Hi, not sure about the time zones involved in Gary replying...I think he is referring to: http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/basins/fs-basins4.html Gary, please correct me if I am wrong ;) Regards, Andrea, aka pibinko http://pibinko.altervista.org 2008/1/29, Cameron Shorter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Yes Gary, that would be great. Do you know where we can find information about this? On Jan 29, 2008 2:07 PM, Gary Watry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would the U.S. EPA moving from ESRI to Open Source for their Watershed model help > > > - Original Message - > From: Cameron Shorter > Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 21:39 > Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? > To: OSGeo Discussions > > > After giving a presentation recently about Geospatial Open Source, we> were asked whether there have been any case studies on migration to > > Geospatial Open Source. > > > > The audience were very sympathetic to Open Source, but felt is would > > be much easier to sell to upper management if they could draw upon > > experiences of other agencies who have done something similar. > > > > Can anyone point me to reports, or programs which have migrated from > > ESRI/Oracle applications (ArcGIS in particular) to Open Source > > equivalents? > > > > -- > > Cameron Shorter > > Geospatial Systems Architect > > Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 > > Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 > > > > Think Globally, Fix Locally > > Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions > > http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html > > ___ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > Gary Watry > Applications Developer/Designer > > Florida State University > Office of Telecommunications > 644 West Call Street > Tallahassee, Fl 32306 > Phone: 645-6904 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel:
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Geo Database
Hi, ¿Does anyone know about similar projects using object oriented databases, such as db4objects[1], which is a GPL product with native engines for Java, Java ME, Mono, .NET, ...? Cheers [1] http://www.db4o.com/ - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Hardisty >Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:08 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Geo Database > >David and All, > >A nice up-and-coming open Java geodatabase format is H2 + >spatial extensions. > >The H2 database is by the same guy that wrote that HSQL db. H2 >has some good properties, most importantly, it's small (1 Mb), >works well in embedded mode, and is fast. Adding in spatial >data in JTS format, and providing a spatial index, is the >basic concept. > >Two implementations that I know of are > >1. The French research group IRSTV, lead programmer seems to >be Erwan Bocher. >http://geosysin.iict.ch/irstv-trac/wiki/H2spatial/Download > >2. GeoTools has a H2 spatial module, written by Justin Deoliveira. >Here's a link to the compiled jars: >http://maven.geotools.fr/repository/org/geotools/gt2-h2/2.5-SNAPSHOT/ > >Both are under active development. > >regards, >-Frank > > >On Jan 14, 2008 3:14 PM, Sampson, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey Folks, >> >> Just wondering if there is still thought out there from the previous >> thread about a portable and open geodatabase. I came across the >> nemesis project "an experimental finite element code. >Utilizes SQLite >> to store, handle and retrieve geometry and analysis data. " >> >> http://www.nemesis-project.org/index.php/Main_Page >> >> Thought that might be a good place to start that is already using >> geometry in sqlite. >> >> As for software adoptions it looks like GRASS already has an >SQLITE driver. >> >> QGIS looks hopeful. Here is a GRASS/QGIS-SQLITE tutorial >> >http://whatnick.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-sqlite-with-qgis-grass-tool >> box.html >> >> GDAL has some SQLITE http://www.gdal.org/ogr/drv_sqlite.html >> >> >> Just some more info for the fire. >> >> Cheers >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> > > > >-- > >Frank Hardisty >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >GeoVISTA Center >210 Walker Building > >Dutton e-Education Institute >415 Earth and Engineering Sciences Building > >814-867-1471 >http://www.geovista.psu.edu/grants/cdcesda/software/ >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [postgis-users] A bit off topic, but FOSSGIS clients...
Markus Lupp said: >Paul Ramsey schrieb: >>> Also, wasn't there a FOSS4G presentation about >>> consulting as a way to further FOSS GIS development >>> and make a living at it as well? >> >> Bit of a myth, as far as I can tell. This open source technology >> wedge is still so small that the business opportunities remain >> relatively tiny, particularly in North America, where the technology >> base is so homogenous and the mental lock-in to a vendor-led mentality >> so strong. >> >Not a myth in Europe (or to be more precise, at least in Germany). There >is a number of (growing) companies that have FOSS GIS consulting >business models and do pretty well. I would say that in other european countries, FOSSGIS don't have so much presence as it happens in Germany. In Spain, there are a good number of companies making money out of FOSSGIS (maybe less than in Germany), but it's not the same (I think) in other countries like UK, Italy,.. Am I wrong? Paul Ramsey said: >"Everyone should drop their projects and work on uDig." But all the >gvSIG developers are supported by funding from Spanish government >that requires all the work be GPL; and they also prefer a pure Java >implementation to the SWT/Eclipse implementation that uDig uses. And >the OpenJUMP people have an existing rich set of editing tools that >are not easily portable to the uDig application model. Are they going >to throw away all their existing functionality to move to another >platform? Why? OpenJUMP works fine for them. I agree Paul. Diversity is richness. Every community may have its place under the sun. Otherwise, it's true that is a pity not sharing more resources on common tasks. Regarding gvSIG, GPL is a *must* for the project. Other things about technology (like Swing vs.SWT) are just decissions made in a moment under some constraints, and as all technical decissions, must be open to change if necessary. Regarding merges, I prefer some approaches like the case of openLayers and other WebMapping projects. I think that pure merges do not exist, it's usually a project taking over another one, or a project moving to a new one. And just a quote. 70% of gvSIG funding come from European Union, and they do not require a special license, it's a decission of the PSC. Oh, and I agree Andrea, fun is the only way to produce good software, and specially good open-source softwre. Regards, - Miguel Montesinos Technical Manager PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es <https://www.prodevelop.es/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.prodevelop.es> Tlf: +34 963510612 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss <http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss> <>___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Propietary vs. FOSS4GIS round-table in Spain
Hi to everybody, A round-table with subject "free software, propietary software and GIS" was held at Madrid, Spain, last december, the 18th of 2007, with people talking from the propietary side (top managers from ESRI and Intergraph in Spain), people from FOSSGIS side (gvSIG and regional Spanish governments) as well as academics and National Public Administration, under the chair of IGN (Spanish National Geographic Institute). A good thing about this event it's that it's been published in YouTube [1] (with written acceptance by talkers). It's a pitty that it's only in Spanish, maybe from the OSGeo Spanish Chapter we could translate something. Anyway I'll translate some funny things that have been said there. - Alfonso Rubio (Top Manager at ESRI Spain): [2] "from an intellectual point of view, I wonder that if free software is a software with freedom to be modified at any time, that is just the opposite of guaranteeing that we are able to work with standards, because any user, or even any implementation, can modify it" - A. Rubio (ESRI) in a 2nd talk: [3] "it seems that standard support is less guaranteed with free software from an intellectual point of view" and finally: "a standard -in the end- is a boring thing" - Rubén Andreani (Top Manager at Intergraph Spain): [4] "How much does it cost to make a software and to maintain it? There's a gossip which says that a version of a GIS software costs around 100-200 million $ ... so, obviously the software cannot be free (for *gratis*) because money has to come from anywhere." [1] http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=IGN000 [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4WGp8Uzwe0 [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvqPtV8pA0I [4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9obEhklAlA Interesting and funny things within an "official position". Regards, - Miguel Montesinos Technical Manager PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Reflections on the Jornadas gvSIG
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnulf Christl >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:49 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Reflections on the Jornadas gvSIG > >Jo Walsh wrote: >> dear all, >> >> I got a lot out of the Jornadas gvSIG 3-day user/developer meeting >> last week, and wanted to share a few notes with la comunidad >> ingles-hablante. >> >> One thing that jumped out is the strength of positive language about >> "software libre" amongst the user community; not just >acceptance, but >> promotion of free software and public data in general, at >the highest >> levels of public administration. I wrote a little more about this on >> the OKFN blog: http://blog.okfn.org/2007/11/20/keeping-open-libre/ >> >> Another highlight was getting to sit in on the "Libro SIG" group >> meeting, concentrating the local OSGeo-istas. This is a hive of >> energetic and committed seeming people, with half a free GIS book >> written already, a lot on the mathematics behind analysis techniques >> contributed by Victor Olaya of the SEXTANTE project, which >sounds like >> a sort of Java OSSIM. The whole question or marshalling a lot of >> different translators and contributors to a book in potentially many >> different languages is a fascinating one. >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Libro_SIG - a GIS book that is free >> rather than a book about free and open GIS tools specifically. >> >> gvSIG is on close terms with GeoNetwork and Jeroen was there >giving a >> couple of talks. Metadatos are increasingly attended to, >partly due to >> the pressure from the INSPIRE SDI Directive in Europe. The metadata >> plugin which Michael Gould's group has undere development >will one day >> share state with and encourage contributions from other plugins. >> There's also a nice amount of connection from gvSIG to >OpenStreetmap, >> both in terms of people like Ivan Sanchez and Miguel Montesinos, and >> in the software in terms of UI integration and data re-use. >> >> The talks at the Jornadas were mostly oriented towards the user >> community - policymakers, planners, researchers and educators - the >> technical depth and excitement seemed rather higher in the >gvSIG talks >> at FOSS4G. One thing that stood out for me was the absense >of visible >> commercial culture really hanging around the event. There were a few >> sponsored sessions (Eclipse, SGI) but no booths, some poster >> presentations but no promotional material on display. >> >> I cast my mind back to what so amazed me at FOSSGIS in Berlin last >> March; stalls and displays for a dozen, maybe two, open source and >> open hardware oriented commercial consultancies. I wonder >why there's >> not more evidence of this sort of thing here. There seems no obvious >> impedance, there's so much apparent enthusiasm for "tecnologia libre" >> in the public authority market, which in its regionalism and >> municipality is not so different from how it looks in Germany. I >> wonder how (and if!) this sort of thing can be encouraged... > >In Germany a fair amount of ground work has been done >educating people about Free and Open Source Software since the >last millennium (starting in 1999 with intevation's work and >later the start of freegis.org). This might arguably be one of >the reasons why commercial backing for FOSSGIS is good. Later >this effort was specifically focused at GIS service providers, >spatial data providers and education (the last one being the >hardest). In short, it takes a lot of work and a lot of time. >I do not know of any recipe that works overnight. Jo, I think that there are different reasons for that apparent lack of commercial support (the sponsors made a big funding effort to support the event, commercial information was included in the laptop bags, there were some displays, ...), but it was decided not to use booths this time. Maybe it's a good suggestion for next year. Regarding the impedance, I can see more and more spanish consultancy firms coming into open source business models, but maybe we are used to make business in a more close way here in Spain, with direct contact. Or maybe we are just lacking some opportunities :-( > >Jo, >unfortunately I didn't make it to the Spain - good to know >that OSGeo was well recepted and that the gvSIG folks are full >of FOSS. You will have to explain to me why this works so well >in Europe and is not so well accepted in NA
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G e-primer first draft
Hi Franck, congratulations for your intiative! We mantain a similar work for the Spanish-speaking community, but it's only in Spanish at the moment, sorry. I see some useful projects which could be added to your report: * Desktop GIS: - gvSIG [1], the project I take part in. - Nasa WorldWind [2] * OGC WebServers: - GeoServer [3] - deegree [4] * WebMapping projects: - MapBuilder [5] - MapBender [6] - Ka-Map [7] - openlayers [8] - MapGuide Community [9] - Cartoweb [10] There are also some other projects as well as lots of libraries, but I suppose you don't want to get into a deep detail. If I'm wrong, let me know so that I can provide you with more resources. You can also have a look at Paul Ramsey's Survey on FOSS4G [11] which also have a look at the status of this projects. [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvsig&L=2 [2] http://nasa-world-wind.softonic.com/ [3] http://geoserver.org/ [4] http://www.deegree.org/ [5] http://communitymapbuilder.osgeo.org/ [6] http://www.mapbender.org [7] http://ka-map.maptools.org/ [8] http://openlayers.org/ [9] http://mapguide.osgeo.org/ [10] http://www.cartoweb.org/ [11] http://www.foss4g2007.org/presentations/view.php?abstract_id=136 Regards, have us informed of your work progress. --------- Miguel Montesinos Technical Manager PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeroen Ticheler Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 8:50 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G e-primer first draft Hi Franck, Excellent start and good initiative! My first quick comment will obviously be on the GeoNetwork section, since that's where I'm most involved in :-) It would be good if you use the name "GeoNetwork opensource". It would be nice if you could make it clear in the section that the FAO GeoNetwork is just one of the implementations out there. GeoNetwork opensource is at its basis and there are already many more implementations up and running. The software is used in a number of national SDI initiatives and in all of the large United Nations Agencies. Greetings and good luck with writing! Jeroen On Nov 12, 2007, at 4:48 AM, Franck Martin wrote: Hi all, I'm releasing a very raw first draft on an e-primer on FOSS4G I'm writing. This e-primer should eventually be included in the e-primer list from www.iosn.net. The work is carried out from the Pacific Islands node of IOSN. I did some announcements a while back on this list. As I say this is still a very raw draft, but I'd like some early comments. My goals is not to explain how to do GIS/RS but give enough pointers on what is out there so that people feel that the field is mature and that they feel confident to use FOSS4G professionally. -I'd like to know if I have forgotten any application -I'm looking for writers for the two missing chapters -I have started to request one or two forewords from people involved in the community English is not my first language, so do not worry about it yet. Any contribution in the form of added paragraphs is most welcome. These contributors will be acknowledged in the draft. I'm planning to have a complete draft by end of the month. We have a GIS/RS conference here (cf www.picisoc.org) and I'd like a draft ready by then. Where to get the first draft? http://www.peachymango.org/tiki-index.php?page=FOSS4G <http://www.peachymango.org/tiki-index.php?page=FOSS4G> Cheers -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Franck Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question" G. Bachelard ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Jeroen Ticheler FAO-UN Tel: +39 06 57056041 http://www.fao.org/geonetwork 42.07420°N 12.34343°E ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for articles (GeoConnexion magazine)
Hi, Michael, I'm member of gvSIG team (PMC, TMC, ...). We are also developing gvSIG Mobile, an open source GIS/SDI client for mobile devices. I think it could be a good idea for an article. If you think it's interesting, give more deatils, please. Thanks for the proposal ----- Miguel Montesinos Technical Manager PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael P. Gerlek >Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:31 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for articles (GeoConnexion magazine) > >Dear OSGeo community: > >Our friends at GeoConnexions are running a special issue in >Feb with a focus on "Open Source / Open Geodata" (copy >deadline is Dec 14th). > >This is a great chance for the Open Data folks -- and the rest >of us Open Code types -- to get some media exposure. > >Please contact me if you're interested in submitting >something, and I can provide more details and/or put you in >touch with the GeoConnexion editor. > >-mpg > >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] a SOAP bubble
Hi, I agree the comments about SOAP problems. Nevertheless the most known problems are related to XML more than SOAP specifically, and that's what OGC standards use: XML, as a matter of fact that's the reason why some standards like WFS are quite improvable. So, I think we won't face a new technical disaster, but a standardization challenge. Ragards --------- Miguel Montesinos Technical Manager PRODEVELOP e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es > -Mensaje original- > De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Sean Gillies > Enviado el: jueves, 12 de julio de 2007 23:36 > Para: OSGeo Discussions > Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] a SOAP bubble > > Jo Walsh wrote: > > dear all, > > > > The Draft Implementing Rules for Network Services for geodata > > as part of the European Spatial Data Infrastructure (INSPIRE) > > are going to be published before too long, and when they are, > > they will mandate SOAP for interfacing with all OGC web services. > > > > 'What?' one cries. 'SOAP [...]'. And the poor European Commission > > are going to have to listen to a lot of opinions about what a good > > and what a bad thing this is for people writing geographic information > > software and trying to get public authorities in Europe to use it. > > > > It would be so great to collect some kind of real numbers looking > > outside the GI domain even. Like back when there was a SOAP bubble > > a few years ago and Google, Amazon et al ran parallel SOAP and REST > > style services. Google dropped SOAP for GMaps. Could we get those > > kinds of numbers? Is anyone in GIS really supporting SOAP enough that > > one could get comparative realworld numbers? > > > > I would also be really interested in getting impact assessment from > > client software of an change like this - like SOAP support would be a > > big deal for an intentionally light-footprint package like OpenLayers. > > > > Any thoughts at all welcome here: > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/SOAP > > > > > > jo > > http://www.somebits.com/weblog/tech/bad/whySoapSucks.html > > From Nelson Minar, who worked on several SOAP services for Google. > > Sean > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
