Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Jody Garnett]

It is okay Vicky it has been a good discussion and we all learned a lot :)

Thank you for asking.

--
Jody Garnett

On 29 August 2017 at 18:58, Vicky Vergara  wrote:

> I arrived to OSGeo on 2015, and first time mentor on that year, so I didnt
> know of past decisions.
> Sorry I asked.
> Vicky
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Anne Ghisla  wrote:
>
>> Former admin here.
>>
>> When I became admin in 2012, mentors money was added to OSGeo incomes.
>> I started a discussion with the Board and current mentors about it, and
>> the agreed outcome was that the mentors' money should specifically be
>> allocated for code sprint support. (See budgets from 2013 onwards, and
>> board list/IRC logs for extended information).
>>
>> So it is misleading to say that OSGeo retains the money: it is
>> has been available to projects every year.
>>
>> I welcome mentors to make use of this year's allocated money for code
>> sprints - for next year and onwards (assuming OSGeo will apply for GSoC
>> and gets accepted) the discussion can be reopened. I'm not an admin
>> anymore but I would be glad to contribute with information about past
>> decisions.
>>
>> Best
>> Anne
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 06:59:21 +0200
>> Massimiliano Cannata  wrote:
>>
>> > Jody,
>> > it was never an option to choose if donating the money or not. Someone
>> > decided on the past and this option was never asked to mentors...
>> > I assumed this was part of the game: get one slot by OSGeo and it
>> > retains the mentor's money...
>> >
>> > But to me make sense to let project use them for their growing and
>> > promotion, for example I would use them to make t-shirt with istSOS
>> > and OSGeo logos for the community... :-)
>> >
>> > Maxi
>> >
>> > Il 29 ago 2017 4:21 AM, "Jody Garnett"  ha
>> > scritto:
>> >
>> > Trying to hunt through my email, it has been a long time since I did
>> > GSOC. I think it was $500 to OSGeo for each project mentored (really
>> > not sure if that is still the case).
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jody Garnett
>> >
>> > On 28 August 2017 at 18:45, Stephen Woodbridge
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Really, that is news to me. I never knew we had that option. I
>> > > think we would have liked to fund some additional development for
>> > > the project or defrayed travel expenses for PSC members to go to
>> > > conferences to present papers on behalf of the project.
>> > >
>> > > What is the process for mentors to get the money?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >   -Steve
>> > >
>> > > On 8/28/2017 9:36 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the
>> > >> GSOC program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt
>> > >> and donated the money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo
>> > >> previously, but was not really specific about to any particular
>> > >> project.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Jody Garnett
>> > >>
>> > >> On 28 August 2017 at 17:23, Vicky Vergara > > >> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> So, then if I undertand correctly:
>> > >> Mentors money is not mentors money.
>> > >> Right?
>> > >>
>> > >> Vicky
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating
>> > >> mentors make a decision?
>> > >>
>> > >> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant
>> > >> program for student travel) but it should be up to the
>> > >> participants.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata
>> > >> > > >> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be
>> > >> discussed at board level, of course hints from
>> > >> everyone is welcome...
>> > >>
>> > >> Maxi
>> > >>
>> > >> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"
>> > >> > > >> > ha scritto:
>> > >>
>> > >> Dear Vicky,
>> > >>
>> > >> Before going into your question; decisions to spend
>> > >> money on codesprints or student conference
>> > >> attendance has not been part of the Marketing Committee remit.
>> > >>
>> > >> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how
>> > >> of this type of support?
>> > >>
>> > >> Kind regards,
>> > >> Marc Vloemans
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara
>> > >> > > >> > het volgende geschreven:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>> ​
>> > >>> Hello all
>> 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Vicky Vergara]

I arrived to OSGeo on 2015, and first time mentor on that year, so I didnt
know of past decisions.
Sorry I asked.
Vicky

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Anne Ghisla  wrote:

> Former admin here.
>
> When I became admin in 2012, mentors money was added to OSGeo incomes.
> I started a discussion with the Board and current mentors about it, and
> the agreed outcome was that the mentors' money should specifically be
> allocated for code sprint support. (See budgets from 2013 onwards, and
> board list/IRC logs for extended information).
>
> So it is misleading to say that OSGeo retains the money: it is
> has been available to projects every year.
>
> I welcome mentors to make use of this year's allocated money for code
> sprints - for next year and onwards (assuming OSGeo will apply for GSoC
> and gets accepted) the discussion can be reopened. I'm not an admin
> anymore but I would be glad to contribute with information about past
> decisions.
>
> Best
> Anne
>
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 06:59:21 +0200
> Massimiliano Cannata  wrote:
>
> > Jody,
> > it was never an option to choose if donating the money or not. Someone
> > decided on the past and this option was never asked to mentors...
> > I assumed this was part of the game: get one slot by OSGeo and it
> > retains the mentor's money...
> >
> > But to me make sense to let project use them for their growing and
> > promotion, for example I would use them to make t-shirt with istSOS
> > and OSGeo logos for the community... :-)
> >
> > Maxi
> >
> > Il 29 ago 2017 4:21 AM, "Jody Garnett"  ha
> > scritto:
> >
> > Trying to hunt through my email, it has been a long time since I did
> > GSOC. I think it was $500 to OSGeo for each project mentored (really
> > not sure if that is still the case).
> >
> > --
> > Jody Garnett
> >
> > On 28 August 2017 at 18:45, Stephen Woodbridge
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Really, that is news to me. I never knew we had that option. I
> > > think we would have liked to fund some additional development for
> > > the project or defrayed travel expenses for PSC members to go to
> > > conferences to present papers on behalf of the project.
> > >
> > > What is the process for mentors to get the money?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >   -Steve
> > >
> > > On 8/28/2017 9:36 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
> > >
> > >> Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the
> > >> GSOC program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt
> > >> and donated the money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo
> > >> previously, but was not really specific about to any particular
> > >> project.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jody Garnett
> > >>
> > >> On 28 August 2017 at 17:23, Vicky Vergara  > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> So, then if I undertand correctly:
> > >> Mentors money is not mentors money.
> > >> Right?
> > >>
> > >> Vicky
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating
> > >> mentors make a decision?
> > >>
> > >> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant
> > >> program for student travel) but it should be up to the
> > >> participants.
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata
> > >>  > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be
> > >> discussed at board level, of course hints from
> > >> everyone is welcome...
> > >>
> > >> Maxi
> > >>
> > >> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"
> > >>  > >> > ha scritto:
> > >>
> > >> Dear Vicky,
> > >>
> > >> Before going into your question; decisions to spend
> > >> money on codesprints or student conference
> > >> attendance has not been part of the Marketing Committee remit.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how
> > >> of this type of support?
> > >>
> > >> Kind regards,
> > >> Marc Vloemans
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara
> > >>  > >> > het volgende geschreven:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> ​
> > >>> Hello all
> > >>> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
> > >>> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to
> > >>> marketing, but it never arrived, so I am sending
> > >>> to discuss..
> > >>> Sorry I can not give you links to the different
> > >>>  

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Anne Ghisla]

Former admin here.

When I became admin in 2012, mentors money was added to OSGeo incomes.
I started a discussion with the Board and current mentors about it, and
the agreed outcome was that the mentors' money should specifically be
allocated for code sprint support. (See budgets from 2013 onwards, and
board list/IRC logs for extended information).

So it is misleading to say that OSGeo retains the money: it is
has been available to projects every year.

I welcome mentors to make use of this year's allocated money for code
sprints - for next year and onwards (assuming OSGeo will apply for GSoC
and gets accepted) the discussion can be reopened. I'm not an admin
anymore but I would be glad to contribute with information about past
decisions.

Best
Anne

On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 06:59:21 +0200
Massimiliano Cannata  wrote:

> Jody,
> it was never an option to choose if donating the money or not. Someone
> decided on the past and this option was never asked to mentors...
> I assumed this was part of the game: get one slot by OSGeo and it
> retains the mentor's money...
> 
> But to me make sense to let project use them for their growing and
> promotion, for example I would use them to make t-shirt with istSOS
> and OSGeo logos for the community... :-)
> 
> Maxi
> 
> Il 29 ago 2017 4:21 AM, "Jody Garnett"  ha
> scritto:
> 
> Trying to hunt through my email, it has been a long time since I did
> GSOC. I think it was $500 to OSGeo for each project mentored (really
> not sure if that is still the case).
> 
> --
> Jody Garnett
> 
> On 28 August 2017 at 18:45, Stephen Woodbridge
>  wrote:
> 
> > Really, that is news to me. I never knew we had that option. I
> > think we would have liked to fund some additional development for
> > the project or defrayed travel expenses for PSC members to go to
> > conferences to present papers on behalf of the project.
> >
> > What is the process for mentors to get the money?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >   -Steve
> >
> > On 8/28/2017 9:36 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
> >  
> >> Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the
> >> GSOC program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt
> >> and donated the money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo
> >> previously, but was not really specific about to any particular
> >> project.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jody Garnett
> >>
> >> On 28 August 2017 at 17:23, Vicky Vergara  >> > wrote:  
> >>
> >> So, then if I undertand correctly:
> >> Mentors money is not mentors money.
> >> Right?
> >>
> >> Vicky
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating
> >> mentors make a decision?
> >>
> >> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant
> >> program for student travel) but it should be up to the
> >> participants.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata
> >>  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be
> >> discussed at board level, of course hints from
> >> everyone is welcome...
> >>
> >> Maxi
> >>
> >> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"
> >>  >> > ha scritto:
> >>
> >> Dear Vicky,
> >>
> >> Before going into your question; decisions to spend
> >> money on codesprints or student conference
> >> attendance has not been part of the Marketing Committee remit.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how
> >> of this type of support?
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Marc Vloemans
> >>
> >>
> >> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara
> >>  >> > het volgende geschreven:
> >>
> >>  
> >>> ​
> >>> Hello all
> >>> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
> >>> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to
> >>> marketing, but it never arrived, so I am sending
> >>> to discuss..
> >>> Sorry I can not give you links to the different
> >>> responses, it so happens that OSGeo google mentors
> >>> mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
> >>>
> >>> Please have a look.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- Forwarded message --
> >>> From: *Margherita Di Leo*
> >>> >
> >>> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Mateusz Loskot]

On 29 August 2017 at 06:59, Massimiliano Cannata
 wrote:
> Jody,
> it was never an option to choose if donating the money or not. Someone
> decided on the past and this option was never asked to mentors...
> I assumed this was part of the game: get one slot by OSGeo and it retains
> the mentor's money...

Wrong assumption. Mentors decided collectively.

I mentored for GDAL during OSGeo's GSoC back in 2007.
I was explicitly asked if I, as mentor, agree to pass the money to OSGeo.
It was Frank Warmerdam (GDAL project manager at the time) or
it was someone else (Tyler Mitchell perhaps),
I lost those emails...


Wait, found it:

[SoC] Windup, and Mentor Summit, Mentor Payments
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/soc/2007-August/000173.html

followed up by agreement responses from mentors
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/soc/2007-September/thread.html

*That* is how it started.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Mateusz Loskot]

On 29 August 2017 at 03:36, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the GSOC
> program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt and donated the
> money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo previously, but was not
> really specific about to any particular project.
>


I recalled, that was/used to be majority of choices.
I did that too.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Margherita Di Leo]

Vicky, why are you saying that?
Mentors money have been so far used as was agreed upon by mentors some
years ago, that is, to donate them to osgeo. Any different proposal should
be agreed upon by all active mentors serving the current year.
I have proposed in two mailing lists to come up with a common proposal, you
have ignored my emails and went on saying that mentors money is not mentors
money.
What is your alternative proposal? What are you requesting?

Il giorno mar 29 ago 2017 alle 02:23 Vicky Vergara 
ha scritto:

> So, then if I undertand correctly:
> Mentors money is not mentors money.
> Right?
>
> Vicky
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
>
>> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating mentors make a
>> decision?
>>
>> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant program for
>> student travel) but it should be up to the participants.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata <
>> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be discussed at
>>> board level, of course hints from everyone is welcome...
>>>
>>> Maxi
>>>
>>> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"  ha
>>> scritto:
>>>
 Dear Vicky,

 Before going into your question; decisions to spend money on
 codesprints or student conference attendance has not been part of the
 Marketing Committee remit.

 Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of this type of
 support?

 Kind regards,
 Marc Vloemans


 Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara 
 het volgende geschreven:


 ​
 Hello all
 This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
 By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to marketing, but it
 never arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
 Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses, it so
 happens that OSGeo google mentors mailing list is private (for what ever
 reason).

 Please have a look.




 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Margherita Di Leo 
 Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
 To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com


 Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,

 The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD per student.
 Before i was admin and also before i acted as a mentor, this matter was
 discussed among the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the money
 among the mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this decision
 up to the organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can tell, the
 problem of distributing the money to the mentors was to make a lot of small
 payments of which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
 currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum should be used to
 support code sprints instead.
 Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over again, you're
 welcome, but this would apply to next year's budget, and should be agreed
 upon by all mentors.
 My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the budget for a
 common purpose rather than distributing it in small amounts, for example if
 you don't like it destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for
 financial support for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem
 we have been organizing the geospatial session and i have every year
 invited our gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't afford
 the travel and accommodation.
 Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to conferences,
 you mentors will be asked to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and
 an event that he or she would like to attend and in case of multiple names
 we will either split the aid or choose among the students. Last year if I
 remember correctly this call was made directly to mentors by google to
 provide names to them of deserving students, but i'm not aware if anyone of
 osgeo made the request or got funded.
 Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you address this to the
 osgeo marketing committee , that is administering osgeo's budget, and they
 should be able to give you an answer.



 Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano Cannata <
 massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> ha scritto:

> Hi Viky and all,
> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
>
> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor money.
> They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on this), retained by
> OSGeo as organization.
>
> If is possible to use that money, I think this should be clearly
> stated along with the procedure to access it.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Massimiliano Cannata]

Jody,
it was never an option to choose if donating the money or not. Someone
decided on the past and this option was never asked to mentors...
I assumed this was part of the game: get one slot by OSGeo and it retains
the mentor's money...

But to me make sense to let project use them for their growing and
promotion, for example I would use them to make t-shirt with istSOS and
OSGeo logos for the community... :-)

Maxi

Il 29 ago 2017 4:21 AM, "Jody Garnett"  ha scritto:

Trying to hunt through my email, it has been a long time since I did GSOC.
I think it was $500 to OSGeo for each project mentored (really not sure if
that is still the case).

--
Jody Garnett

On 28 August 2017 at 18:45, Stephen Woodbridge 
wrote:

> Really, that is news to me. I never knew we had that option. I think we
> would have liked to fund some additional development for the project or
> defrayed travel expenses for PSC members to go to conferences to present
> papers on behalf of the project.
>
> What is the process for mentors to get the money?
>
> Thanks,
>   -Steve
>
> On 8/28/2017 9:36 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>
>> Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the GSOC
>> program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt and donated the
>> money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo previously, but was not
>> really specific about to any particular project.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 28 August 2017 at 17:23, Vicky Vergara  vi...@georepublic.de>> wrote:
>>
>> So, then if I undertand correctly:
>> Mentors money is not mentors money.
>> Right?
>>
>> Vicky
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett
>> > wrote:
>>
>> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating
>> mentors make a decision?
>>
>> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant program
>> for student travel) but it should be up to the participants.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be
>> discussed at board level, of course hints from everyone is
>> welcome...
>>
>> Maxi
>>
>> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"
>> >
>> ha scritto:
>>
>> Dear Vicky,
>>
>> Before going into your question; decisions to spend
>> money on codesprints or student conference attendance
>> has not been part of the Marketing Committee remit.
>>
>> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of
>> this type of support?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Marc Vloemans
>>
>>
>> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara
>> > het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>>
>>> ​
>>> Hello all
>>> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
>>> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to
>>> marketing, but it never arrived, so I am sending to
>>> discuss..
>>> Sorry I can not give you links to the different
>>> responses, it so happens that OSGeo google mentors
>>> mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
>>>
>>> Please have a look.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: *Margherita Di Leo* >> >
>>> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
>>> To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
>>>
>>> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year
>>> 500USD per student. Before i was admin and also before
>>> i acted as a mentor, this matter was discussed among
>>> the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the
>>> money among the mentors or to destinate them to
>>> another use, being this decision up to the
>>> organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can
>>> tell, the problem of distributing the money to the
>>> mentors was to make a lot of small payments of which a
>>> considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
>>>   

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Jody Garnett]

Trying to hunt through my email, it has been a long time since I did GSOC.
I think it was $500 to OSGeo for each project mentored (really not sure if
that is still the case).

--
Jody Garnett

On 28 August 2017 at 18:45, Stephen Woodbridge 
wrote:

> Really, that is news to me. I never knew we had that option. I think we
> would have liked to fund some additional development for the project or
> defrayed travel expenses for PSC members to go to conferences to present
> papers on behalf of the project.
>
> What is the process for mentors to get the money?
>
> Thanks,
>   -Steve
>
> On 8/28/2017 9:36 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>
>> Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the GSOC
>> program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt and donated the
>> money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo previously, but was not
>> really specific about to any particular project.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 28 August 2017 at 17:23, Vicky Vergara  vi...@georepublic.de>> wrote:
>>
>> So, then if I undertand correctly:
>> Mentors money is not mentors money.
>> Right?
>>
>> Vicky
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett
>> > wrote:
>>
>> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating
>> mentors make a decision?
>>
>> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant program
>> for student travel) but it should be up to the participants.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be
>> discussed at board level, of course hints from everyone is
>> welcome...
>>
>> Maxi
>>
>> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"
>> >
>> ha scritto:
>>
>> Dear Vicky,
>>
>> Before going into your question; decisions to spend
>> money on codesprints or student conference attendance
>> has not been part of the Marketing Committee remit.
>>
>> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of
>> this type of support?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Marc Vloemans
>>
>>
>> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara
>> > het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>>
>>> ​
>>> Hello all
>>> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
>>> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to
>>> marketing, but it never arrived, so I am sending to
>>> discuss..
>>> Sorry I can not give you links to the different
>>> responses, it so happens that OSGeo google mentors
>>> mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
>>>
>>> Please have a look.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: *Margherita Di Leo* >> >
>>> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
>>> To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
>>>
>>> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year
>>> 500USD per student. Before i was admin and also before
>>> i acted as a mentor, this matter was discussed among
>>> the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the
>>> money among the mentors or to destinate them to
>>> another use, being this decision up to the
>>> organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can
>>> tell, the problem of distributing the money to the
>>> mentors was to make a lot of small payments of which a
>>> considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
>>> currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum
>>> should be used to support code sprints instead.
>>> Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over
>>> again, you're welcome, but this would apply to next
>>> year's budget, and should be agreed upon by all mentors.
>>> My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the
>>> budget for a common purpose rather than 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Stephen Woodbridge]

Really, that is news to me. I never knew we had that option. I think we 
would have liked to fund some additional development for the project or 
defrayed travel expenses for PSC members to go to conferences to present 
papers on behalf of the project.


What is the process for mentors to get the money?

Thanks,
  -Steve

On 8/28/2017 9:36 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the GSOC 
program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt and donated 
the money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo previously, but was 
not really specific about to any particular project.


--
Jody Garnett

On 28 August 2017 at 17:23, Vicky Vergara > wrote:


So, then if I undertand correctly:
Mentors money is not mentors money.
Right?

Vicky


On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett
> wrote:

We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating
mentors make a decision?

I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant program
for student travel) but it should be up to the participants.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata
> wrote:

I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be
discussed at board level, of course hints from everyone is
welcome...

Maxi

Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"
>
ha scritto:

Dear Vicky,

Before going into your question; decisions to spend
money on codesprints or student conference attendance
has not been part of the Marketing Committee remit.

Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of
this type of support?

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara
> het
volgende geschreven:



​
Hello all
This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to
marketing, but it never arrived, so I am sending to
discuss..
Sorry I can not give you links to the different
responses, it so happens that OSGeo google mentors
mailing list is private (for what ever reason).

Please have a look.




-- Forwarded message --
From: *Margherita Di Leo* >
Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com



Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,

The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year
500USD per student. Before i was admin and also before
i acted as a mentor, this matter was discussed among
the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the
money among the mentors or to destinate them to
another use, being this decision up to the
organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can
tell, the problem of distributing the money to the
mentors was to make a lot of small payments of which a
considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum
should be used to support code sprints instead.
Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over
again, you're welcome, but this would apply to next
year's budget, and should be agreed upon by all mentors.
My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the
budget for a common purpose rather than distributing
it in small amounts, for example if you don't like it
destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for
financial support for students to attend conferences.
For example at fosdem we have been organizing the
geospatial session and i have every year invited our
gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't
afford the travel and accommodation.
Google also gives 500USD for supporting students
travel to conferences, you mentors will be 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Jody Garnett]

Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the GSOC
program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt and donated the
money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo previously, but was not
really specific about to any particular project.

--
Jody Garnett

On 28 August 2017 at 17:23, Vicky Vergara  wrote:

> So, then if I undertand correctly:
> Mentors money is not mentors money.
> Right?
>
> Vicky
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
>
>> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating mentors make a
>> decision?
>>
>> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant program for
>> student travel) but it should be up to the participants.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata <
>> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be discussed at
>>> board level, of course hints from everyone is welcome...
>>>
>>> Maxi
>>>
>>> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"  ha
>>> scritto:
>>>
 Dear Vicky,

 Before going into your question; decisions to spend money on
 codesprints or student conference attendance has not been part of the
 Marketing Committee remit.

 Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of this type of
 support?

 Kind regards,
 Marc Vloemans


 Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara 
 het volgende geschreven:


 ​
 Hello all
 This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
 By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to marketing, but it
 never arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
 Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses, it so
 happens that OSGeo google mentors mailing list is private (for what ever
 reason).

 Please have a look.




 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Margherita Di Leo 
 Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
 To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com


 Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,

 The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD per student.
 Before i was admin and also before i acted as a mentor, this matter was
 discussed among the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the money
 among the mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this decision
 up to the organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can tell, the
 problem of distributing the money to the mentors was to make a lot of small
 payments of which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
 currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum should be used to
 support code sprints instead.
 Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over again, you're
 welcome, but this would apply to next year's budget, and should be agreed
 upon by all mentors.
 My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the budget for a
 common purpose rather than distributing it in small amounts, for example if
 you don't like it destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for
 financial support for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem
 we have been organizing the geospatial session and i have every year
 invited our gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't afford
 the travel and accommodation.
 Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to conferences,
 you mentors will be asked to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and
 an event that he or she would like to attend and in case of multiple names
 we will either split the aid or choose among the students. Last year if I
 remember correctly this call was made directly to mentors by google to
 provide names to them of deserving students, but i'm not aware if anyone of
 osgeo made the request or got funded.
 Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you address this to the
 osgeo marketing committee , that is administering osgeo's budget, and they
 should be able to give you an answer.



 Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano Cannata <
 massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> ha scritto:

> Hi Viky and all,
> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
>
> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor money.
> They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on this), retained by
> OSGeo as organization.
>
> If is possible to use that money, I think this should be clearly
> stated along with the procedure to access it.
> As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be interested in using these
> money to support dissemination of the project.
>
> Regards,
> Maxi
>
> 2017-08-25 17:09 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Stephen Woodbridge]

I think at the least we might want to consider giving that money or some 
of it back to the project that did the mentoring and let them decide how 
to use it with some guidelines on use. OSGeo as the sponsoring 
organization should probably get some of it to defray effort of organizing.


Just my 2 cents, after mentoring 8+ students.

-Steve


On 8/28/2017 8:23 PM, Vicky Vergara wrote:

So, then if I undertand correctly:
Mentors money is not mentors money.
Right?

Vicky


On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett > wrote:


We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating mentors
make a decision?

I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant program for
student travel) but it should be up to the participants.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata
> wrote:

I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be
discussed at board level, of course hints from everyone is
welcome...

Maxi

Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans" > ha scritto:

Dear Vicky,

Before going into your question; decisions to spend money on
codesprints or student conference attendance has not been
part of the Marketing Committee remit.

Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of this
type of support?

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara
> het
volgende geschreven:



​
Hello all
This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to
marketing, but it never arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses,
it so happens that OSGeo google mentors mailing list is
private (for what ever reason).

Please have a look.




-- Forwarded message --
From: *Margherita Di Leo* >
Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com



Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,

The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD
per student. Before i was admin and also before i acted as
a mentor, this matter was discussed among the mentors at
the time, whether to distribute the money among the
mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this
decision up to the organizations participating in gsoc. As
far as i can tell, the problem of distributing the money
to the mentors was to make a lot of small payments of
which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers
and currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum
should be used to support code sprints instead.
Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over
again, you're welcome, but this would apply to next year's
budget, and should be agreed upon by all mentors.
My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the
budget for a common purpose rather than distributing it in
small amounts, for example if you don't like it destinated
to code sprints, would be to use it for financial support
for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem
we have been organizing the geospatial session and i have
every year invited our gsoc students to present their
works but they couldn't afford the travel and accommodation.
Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to
conferences, you mentors will be asked to propose a name
of a deserving gsoc student and an event that he or she
would like to attend and in case of multiple names we will
either split the aid or choose among the students. Last
year if I remember correctly this call was made directly
to mentors by google to provide names to them of deserving
students, but i'm not aware if anyone of osgeo made the
request or got funded.
Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you
address this to the osgeo marketing committee , that is
administering osgeo's budget, and they should be able to
give you an answer.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Vicky Vergara]

So, then if I undertand correctly:
Mentors money is not mentors money.
Right?

Vicky


On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett 
wrote:

> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating mentors make a
> decision?
>
> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant program for
> student travel) but it should be up to the participants.
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata <
> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:
>
>> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be discussed at
>> board level, of course hints from everyone is welcome...
>>
>> Maxi
>>
>> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"  ha
>> scritto:
>>
>>> Dear Vicky,
>>>
>>> Before going into your question; decisions to spend money on codesprints
>>> or student conference attendance has not been part of the Marketing
>>> Committee remit.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of this type of
>>> support?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Marc Vloemans
>>>
>>>
>>> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara  het
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>
>>> ​
>>> Hello all
>>> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
>>> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to marketing, but it
>>> never arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
>>> Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses, it so happens
>>> that OSGeo google mentors mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
>>>
>>> Please have a look.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: Margherita Di Leo 
>>> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
>>> To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
>>>
>>> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD per student.
>>> Before i was admin and also before i acted as a mentor, this matter was
>>> discussed among the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the money
>>> among the mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this decision
>>> up to the organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can tell, the
>>> problem of distributing the money to the mentors was to make a lot of small
>>> payments of which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
>>> currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum should be used to
>>> support code sprints instead.
>>> Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over again, you're
>>> welcome, but this would apply to next year's budget, and should be agreed
>>> upon by all mentors.
>>> My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the budget for a
>>> common purpose rather than distributing it in small amounts, for example if
>>> you don't like it destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for
>>> financial support for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem
>>> we have been organizing the geospatial session and i have every year
>>> invited our gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't afford
>>> the travel and accommodation.
>>> Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to conferences,
>>> you mentors will be asked to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and
>>> an event that he or she would like to attend and in case of multiple names
>>> we will either split the aid or choose among the students. Last year if I
>>> remember correctly this call was made directly to mentors by google to
>>> provide names to them of deserving students, but i'm not aware if anyone of
>>> osgeo made the request or got funded.
>>> Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you address this to the
>>> osgeo marketing committee , that is administering osgeo's budget, and they
>>> should be able to give you an answer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano Cannata <
>>> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> ha scritto:
>>>
 Hi Viky and all,
 sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..

 As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor money.
 They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on this), retained by
 OSGeo as organization.

 If is possible to use that money, I think this should be clearly stated
 along with the procedure to access it.
 As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be interested in using these
 money to support dissemination of the project.

 Regards,
 Maxi

 2017-08-25 17:09 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara :

> Hi,
> pgRouting team members, have being participating mentoring since even
> before I joined the team.
> There is a FOSS4G in Argentina, and we would like to use some of the
> money that was for mentors, to support that trip.
> Do you know how to get those funds? and/or the process to get those
> funds?
> The money is planned to be used in:
> - airplane fare for 1 person
> - hotel
> - 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Jody Garnett]

We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating mentors make a
decision?

I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant program for
student travel) but it should be up to the participants.

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:

> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be discussed at board
> level, of course hints from everyone is welcome...
>
> Maxi
>
> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"  ha
> scritto:
>
>> Dear Vicky,
>>
>> Before going into your question; decisions to spend money on codesprints
>> or student conference attendance has not been part of the Marketing
>> Committee remit.
>>
>> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of this type of
>> support?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Marc Vloemans
>>
>>
>> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara  het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>>
>> ​
>> Hello all
>> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
>> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to marketing, but it never
>> arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
>> Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses, it so happens
>> that OSGeo google mentors mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
>>
>> Please have a look.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Margherita Di Leo 
>> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
>> To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com
>>
>>
>> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
>>
>> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD per student.
>> Before i was admin and also before i acted as a mentor, this matter was
>> discussed among the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the money
>> among the mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this decision
>> up to the organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can tell, the
>> problem of distributing the money to the mentors was to make a lot of small
>> payments of which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
>> currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum should be used to
>> support code sprints instead.
>> Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over again, you're
>> welcome, but this would apply to next year's budget, and should be agreed
>> upon by all mentors.
>> My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the budget for a
>> common purpose rather than distributing it in small amounts, for example if
>> you don't like it destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for
>> financial support for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem
>> we have been organizing the geospatial session and i have every year
>> invited our gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't afford
>> the travel and accommodation.
>> Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to conferences,
>> you mentors will be asked to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and
>> an event that he or she would like to attend and in case of multiple names
>> we will either split the aid or choose among the students. Last year if I
>> remember correctly this call was made directly to mentors by google to
>> provide names to them of deserving students, but i'm not aware if anyone of
>> osgeo made the request or got funded.
>> Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you address this to the
>> osgeo marketing committee , that is administering osgeo's budget, and they
>> should be able to give you an answer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano Cannata <
>> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Hi Viky and all,
>>> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
>>>
>>> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor money.
>>> They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on this), retained by
>>> OSGeo as organization.
>>>
>>> If is possible to use that money, I think this should be clearly stated
>>> along with the procedure to access it.
>>> As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be interested in using these
>>> money to support dissemination of the project.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Maxi
>>>
>>> 2017-08-25 17:09 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara :
>>>
 Hi,
 pgRouting team members, have being participating mentoring since even
 before I joined the team.
 There is a FOSS4G in Argentina, and we would like to use some of the
 money that was for mentors, to support that trip.
 Do you know how to get those funds? and/or the process to get those
 funds?
 The money is planned to be used in:
 - airplane fare for 1 person
 - hotel
 - pgRouting, OSGeo and OSGeo-GSoC poster promotionals


 Vicky



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Margherita Di Leo]

Vicky, all,

The mentor mailing list is private because the discussion about students
evaluations happens there, and I'm surprised that you don't know the reason
why it should be private. Anyhow, I suggested that you bring public this
discussion because this is something that must be completely transparent.
My suggestion in mentors mailing list was that the current year 's active
mentors come up with an agreed upon proposal on how this money should be
spent and bring it to board at the time of budget discussion or earlier.
It was for your specific fund request that I suggested to ask the marketing
committee.
This clarification was just for the record.

Regards,

Il giorno sab 26 ago 2017 alle 18:52 Vicky Vergara 
ha scritto:

>
> ​
> Hello all
> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to marketing, but it never
> arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
> Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses, it so happens
> that OSGeo google mentors mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
>
> Please have a look.
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Margherita Di Leo 
> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
> To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
>
> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD per student.
> Before i was admin and also before i acted as a mentor, this matter was
> discussed among the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the money
> among the mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this decision
> up to the organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can tell, the
> problem of distributing the money to the mentors was to make a lot of small
> payments of which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
> currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum should be used to
> support code sprints instead.
> Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over again, you're
> welcome, but this would apply to next year's budget, and should be agreed
> upon by all mentors.
> My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the budget for a common
> purpose rather than distributing it in small amounts, for example if you
> don't like it destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for financial
> support for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem we have
> been organizing the geospatial session and i have every year invited our
> gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't afford the travel
> and accommodation.
> Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to conferences,
> you mentors will be asked to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and
> an event that he or she would like to attend and in case of multiple names
> we will either split the aid or choose among the students. Last year if I
> remember correctly this call was made directly to mentors by google to
> provide names to them of deserving students, but i'm not aware if anyone of
> osgeo made the request or got funded.
> Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you address this to the
> osgeo marketing committee , that is administering osgeo's budget, and they
> should be able to give you an answer.
>
>
>
> Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano Cannata <
> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi Viky and all,
>> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
>>
>> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor money.
>> They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on this), retained by
>> OSGeo as organization.
>>
>> If is possible to use that money, I think this should be clearly stated
>> along with the procedure to access it.
>> As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be interested in using these
>> money to support dissemination of the project.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maxi
>>
>> 2017-08-25 17:09 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> pgRouting team members, have being participating mentoring since even
>>> before I joined the team.
>>> There is a FOSS4G in Argentina, and we would like to use some of the
>>> money that was for mentors, to support that trip.
>>> Do you know how to get those funds? and/or the process to get those
>>> funds?
>>> The money is planned to be used in:
>>> - airplane fare for 1 person
>>> - hotel
>>> - pgRouting, OSGeo and OSGeo-GSoC poster promotionals
>>>
>>>
>>> Vicky
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> *Massimiliano Cannata*
>>
>> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
>>
>> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>>
>>
>> Istituto scienze della 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Massimiliano Cannata]

I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be discussed at board
level, of course hints from everyone is welcome...

Maxi

Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"  ha
scritto:

> Dear Vicky,
>
> Before going into your question; decisions to spend money on codesprints
> or student conference attendance has not been part of the Marketing
> Committee remit.
>
> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of this type of support?
>
> Kind regards,
> Marc Vloemans
>
>
> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara  het
> volgende geschreven:
>
>
> ​
> Hello all
> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to marketing, but it never
> arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
> Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses, it so happens
> that OSGeo google mentors mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
>
> Please have a look.
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Margherita Di Leo 
> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
> To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
>
> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD per student.
> Before i was admin and also before i acted as a mentor, this matter was
> discussed among the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the money
> among the mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this decision
> up to the organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can tell, the
> problem of distributing the money to the mentors was to make a lot of small
> payments of which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
> currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum should be used to
> support code sprints instead.
> Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over again, you're
> welcome, but this would apply to next year's budget, and should be agreed
> upon by all mentors.
> My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the budget for a common
> purpose rather than distributing it in small amounts, for example if you
> don't like it destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for financial
> support for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem we have
> been organizing the geospatial session and i have every year invited our
> gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't afford the travel
> and accommodation.
> Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to conferences,
> you mentors will be asked to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and
> an event that he or she would like to attend and in case of multiple names
> we will either split the aid or choose among the students. Last year if I
> remember correctly this call was made directly to mentors by google to
> provide names to them of deserving students, but i'm not aware if anyone of
> osgeo made the request or got funded.
> Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you address this to the
> osgeo marketing committee , that is administering osgeo's budget, and they
> should be able to give you an answer.
>
>
>
> Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano Cannata <
> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi Viky and all,
>> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
>>
>> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor money.
>> They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on this), retained by
>> OSGeo as organization.
>>
>> If is possible to use that money, I think this should be clearly stated
>> along with the procedure to access it.
>> As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be interested in using these
>> money to support dissemination of the project.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maxi
>>
>> 2017-08-25 17:09 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> pgRouting team members, have being participating mentoring since even
>>> before I joined the team.
>>> There is a FOSS4G in Argentina, and we would like to use some of the
>>> money that was for mentors, to support that trip.
>>> Do you know how to get those funds? and/or the process to get those
>>> funds?
>>> The money is planned to be used in:
>>> - airplane fare for 1 person
>>> - hotel
>>> - pgRouting, OSGeo and OSGeo-GSoC poster promotionals
>>>
>>>
>>> Vicky
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Massimiliano Cannata*
>>
>> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
>>
>> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>>
>>
>> Istituto scienze della Terra
>>
>> Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
>>
>> Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana
>>
>> Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Marc Vloemans]

Dear Vicky,

Before going into your question; decisions to spend money on codesprints or 
student conference attendance has not been part of the Marketing Committee 
remit.

Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of this type of support?

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> ​
> Hello all
> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to marketing, but it never 
> arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
> Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses, it so happens that 
> OSGeo google mentors mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
> 
> Please have a look.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Margherita Di Leo 
> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
> To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
> 
> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD per student. Before 
> i was admin and also before i acted as a mentor, this matter was discussed 
> among the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the money among the 
> mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this decision up to the 
> organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can tell, the problem of 
> distributing the money to the mentors was to make a lot of small payments of 
> which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and currency 
> changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum should be used to support code 
> sprints instead.
> Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over again, you're welcome, 
> but this would apply to next year's budget, and should be agreed upon by all 
> mentors.
> My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the budget for a common 
> purpose rather than distributing it in small amounts, for example if you 
> don't like it destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for financial 
> support for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem we have 
> been organizing the geospatial session and i have every year invited our gsoc 
> students to present their works but they couldn't afford the travel and 
> accommodation.
> Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to conferences, you 
> mentors will be asked to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and an 
> event that he or she would like to attend and in case of multiple names we 
> will either split the aid or choose among the students. Last year if I 
> remember correctly this call was made directly to mentors by google to 
> provide names to them of deserving students, but i'm not aware if anyone of 
> osgeo made the request or got funded.
> Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you address this to the osgeo 
> marketing committee , that is administering osgeo's budget, and they should 
> be able to give you an answer.
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano Cannata 
>  ha scritto:
>> Hi Viky and all,
>> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
>> 
>> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor money.
>> They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on this), retained by OSGeo 
>> as organization.
>> 
>> If is possible to use that money, I think this should be clearly stated 
>> along with the procedure to access it.
>> As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be interested in using these money 
>> to support dissemination of the project.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Maxi
>> 
>> 2017-08-25 17:09 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara :
>>> Hi,
>>> pgRouting team members, have being participating mentoring since even 
>>> before I joined the team.
>>> There is a FOSS4G in Argentina, and we would like to use some of the money 
>>> that was for mentors, to support that trip.
>>> Do you know how to get those funds? and/or the process to get those funds?
>>> The money is planned to be used in:
>>> - airplane fare for 1 person
>>> - hotel
>>> - pgRouting, OSGeo and OSGeo-GSoC poster promotionals
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Vicky
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "OSGeo GSoC Mentors" group.
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>>> email to osgeo-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Massimiliano Cannata
>> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
>> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>> 
>> Istituto scienze della Terra
>> Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
>> Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana
>> Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio
>> Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14
>> Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09
>> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch
>> www.supsi.ch/ist
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

[Vicky Vergara]

​
Hello all
This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to marketing, but it never
arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses, it so happens
that OSGeo google mentors mailing list is private (for what ever reason).

Please have a look.




-- Forwarded message --
From: Margherita Di Leo 
Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com


Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,

The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD per student.
Before i was admin and also before i acted as a mentor, this matter was
discussed among the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the money
among the mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this decision
up to the organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can tell, the
problem of distributing the money to the mentors was to make a lot of small
payments of which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum should be used to
support code sprints instead.
Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over again, you're welcome,
but this would apply to next year's budget, and should be agreed upon by
all mentors.
My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the budget for a common
purpose rather than distributing it in small amounts, for example if you
don't like it destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for financial
support for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem we have
been organizing the geospatial session and i have every year invited our
gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't afford the travel
and accommodation.
Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to conferences, you
mentors will be asked to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and an
event that he or she would like to attend and in case of multiple names we
will either split the aid or choose among the students. Last year if I
remember correctly this call was made directly to mentors by google to
provide names to them of deserving students, but i'm not aware if anyone of
osgeo made the request or got funded.
Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you address this to the
osgeo marketing committee , that is administering osgeo's budget, and they
should be able to give you an answer.



Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> ha scritto:

> Hi Viky and all,
> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
>
> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor money.
> They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on this), retained by OSGeo
> as organization.
>
> If is possible to use that money, I think this should be clearly stated
> along with the procedure to access it.
> As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be interested in using these
> money to support dissemination of the project.
>
> Regards,
> Maxi
>
> 2017-08-25 17:09 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara :
>
>> Hi,
>> pgRouting team members, have being participating mentoring since even
>> before I joined the team.
>> There is a FOSS4G in Argentina, and we would like to use some of the
>> money that was for mentors, to support that trip.
>> Do you know how to get those funds? and/or the process to get those funds?
>> The money is planned to be used in:
>> - airplane fare for 1 person
>> - hotel
>> - pgRouting, OSGeo and OSGeo-GSoC poster promotionals
>>
>>
>> Vicky
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "OSGeo GSoC Mentors" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to osgeo-gsoc-mentors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Massimiliano Cannata*
>
> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
>
> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>
>
> Istituto scienze della Terra
>
> Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
>
> Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana
>
> Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio
>
> Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14
>
> Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09
>
> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch
>
> *www.supsi.ch/ist *
> --
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