Re: SV: [slim] AlienBBC for Win2K
Could you let me know how you got this trace? I would normal expect to see some output from mplayer. The "SW: Killing MoveData thread" bit indicates that the stream may have stopped responding. I see this quite a lot on live Radio streams - at peak times I think the BBC site is slow to respond e.g. Radio 1 chart show, Radio 4 Archers etc. Does the same things happen with a listen again item? Have you tried increasing the "Radio Station Timeout" in "Server Settings / Network", I set mine to 10s. Hope this helps Neil Peter wrote: > Hi, > > When I try this I get no sound and this in the log when I play Radio > 1: > > SW: Created Named Pipe: \\.\pipe\socketwrapper000696 > SW: Created child process with command line: > "C:\Programmer\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mplayer. > exe" -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao > pcm:file=\\.\pipe\socketwrapper000696 > "rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.r > a" SW: Created child process with command line: > "C:\Programmer\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\lame.exe > " --silent -q 3 -b 0 - - > SW: Killing MoveData thread > > The plugin loads ok, and as far as I can see mplayer.exe and > codec-files is in the right place. Any suggestions ? > > Peter > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > org] På vegne af Neil Sleightholm Sendt: 4. april 2005 20:34 > Til: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > Emne: Re: [slim] AlienBBC for Win2K > > This is what works for me (tested on Windows XP SP2 and Windows 2003 > server). > > Neil > > > Installing AlienBBC on Windows > > These instructions assume you are installing on to SlimServer V6. > > Files you will need: > AlienBBC v0.96 or later: http://www.mrtickle.org/alienbbc.html > Direct link: > http://www.mrtickle.org/downloads/alienbbc_0.96.windows.zip > http://www.mrtickle.org/downloads/alienbbc_0.97.windows.zip > > http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/MPlayer-mingw32-1 > .0 pre6.zip > MPlayer 1.0pre6: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html > Direct link: > http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/MPlayer-mingw32-1 > .0 pre6.zip > > Alternatively - MPlayer 1.0pre7: > http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html > Direct link: > http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/MPlayer-mingw32-d > ev -CVS-050315.zip > (Important: If you use this version you will need to complete step 4 > of the installation instruction as the command line has changed.) > > Codec Files: cook3260.dll (6.0.8.2523) and pncrt.dll (6.0.0.0) > http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html > These files are this zip file Windows Essential codecs > > Installing > Extract the AlienBBC zip file into the main slimserver directory (be > sure to retain the folder names). This is usually: "C:\Program > Files\SlimServer\server". If it asks to overwrite Socketwrapper say > no as this is now part of SlimServer V6. > > Extract mplayer.exe to the folder "C:\Program > Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread" > > Extract cook3260.dll and pncrt.dll to the folder "C:\Program > Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\codec" (Note: the > folder "codec" won't normally exist on the default SlimServer > installation.) > > For mplayer 1.0pre7 only. Open the file "C:\Program > Files\SlimServer\server\slimserver-convert.conf" and comment out (add > a hash character to the start of the line) the 6 lines that follow "# > Default mplayer up to pre6". Then uncomment, remove the # character > from, the 6 lines that follow "# Alternative for mplayer pre7 or > later". > > Testing > Run '"C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\slim.exe" --d_plugin' from a > command prompt to see if there are any errors loading the plugin. > Restart Slimserver and see if AlienBBC appears on the web page and on > the Radio menu on a slim player. > > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Better forum please!
--- David McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow this has turned in to a huge flam. I'm not saying it took I wasn't trying to "flame" and I apologize as I can see where my comments could have been constued as a direct insult. My post basically states that I assumed you exaggerated. The point I was trying to get across was that I've seen many arguments made here against both the list and forum formats and the one I find the least credible is the complexity argument. It's just my opinion and I'm sorry if the way I expressed my opinion came across as harassment. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: "EMPTY" when browsing
Vidur Apparao wrote: ... Dan asks this because we've identified an issue related to Daylight Savings on Windows. It turns out that Windows reports a different file modification date after the automatic change for Daylight Savings (see http://www.codeproject.com/datetime/dstbugs.asp for more information). This makes us think that the file has changed. A bug in 6.0.0 (fixed in the latest nightlies) deletes the file from the database rather than re-reading tags. If you are seeing this bug, updating to the latest 6.0.1 nightly (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0.1/) will fix it. I forgot to mention - you will have to hit Rescan (under Server Settings) to see the missing tracks again. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] metadata musings [was Re: SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question]
--- Sean Goller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josh wrote: > > > I use single file with embedded cue for CDs. all my metadata is > > in an external DB and I've been using custom s/w with a rio > receiver > > for playback. now that I have a SB2 to play with I want to look > > into how to do the same thing (even if it means I have to tag > > the FLACs somehow). > > > > Josh > > > > > Hi Josh, > Would you be willing share a bit on how you've implemented this? > I'm > currently wrestling with how to store flac images in a meaningful > way, > and hadn't considered external storage for metadata. What do you > actually name your images? Something human-readable, or something > more > processing-oriented like the md5sum of the flac file? would you be > willing to share your schema? I currently use mysql for the store. CD primary keys are formed from a custom 160 bit hash I compute from the CD TOC data. it is an SHA-1 digest of a message composed by packing as much bits as possible from the TOC (including track type). it's similar to the musicbrainz/cdindex hash but uses more bits from the TOC to further reduce chances of collision. the schema is a little more complicated than id3v1 but less than v2. I have mostly classical music so the main thing I wanted was separation of performer and composer, multiple performers/composers possible, hierarchical genre and mood, and keywords, and a simple query language that uses it all for quickly composing dynamic playlists (think "play all slow chamber music by j.s. bach random"). I was planning to release it as open-source but never got the whole way through. it's not in a shape to release, and metadata is a personal thing; I was not sure that it would be as useful to anyone else as it is to me. Josh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
--- Gordon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josh Coalson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I use single file with embedded cue for CDs. all my metadata is > > in an external DB and I've been using custom s/w with a rio > receiver > > for playback. now that I have a SB2 to play with I want to look > > into how to do the same thing (even if it means I have to tag > > the FLACs somehow). > > > > Josh: I've been working on some c code to extract metadata from > CDPLAYER.ini > and create cuesheets. It also stuffs the cuesheet into a "cuesheet=" > comment > in the flac and then calls metaflac to import the cuesheet into the > flac. I'm > sure you could modify the code to reference the metadata in your db. > The code > isn't quite ready for a real release, but it's yours if you want it. yes, I think foobar2000 does something similar. vorbis comments are really not for that but I do understand why people do it like that. when I originally did the CUESHEET block type and left out tags, my plan was to add a CDTEXT type that actually emulated the real CD-TEXT subcode data. when I started reading up on it, it looked way to complicated, with images, etc. and I never got around to it. I still think the right way is some CDTEXT subset that is separate from the CUESHEET block (which I thought should be just for the CD TOC and index points). but the cuesheet= tag may grow because it solves the immediate need. Josh __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Better forum please!
Wow this has turned in to a huge flam. I'm not saying it took me two hours to understand this I exaggerated it I just find it hard to use. Maybe it's just because it's the first time I have used this type of forum and I'm use to others. One thing that hasn't changed is direct harassment to other users and there opinions. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Server-side conversion for AAC/Apple Lossless?
Quoting "Aaron S. Field" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > SB2 Users: > > I am considering purchase of the SB2 but I have one concern that I've been > unable to answer in searching the FAQ/archives: Most of my audio files are > either AAC or Apple Lossless. Does Slimserver6 do a server-side conversion to > another format before streaming to the SB2, and then convert to PCM prior to > D/A conversion on the SB2 side? If so, I fear heavy CPU usage and loss of > fidelity from the extra format conversion. slimserver converts AAC/lossless to either PCM or FLAC(via PCM). SB2 prefers FLAC conversion to save bandwidth, but you can disable this in favour of straight to PCM. the huge buffer in teh SB2 should cover you for any network flux. however, since FLAC is lossless, you wont lose any fidelity if you chooose to save bandwidth in favour of a bit of cpu. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: "EMPTY" when browsing
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Vidur Apparao wrote: Nearly all my album tracks are unavailable... when I do Browse music>Browse Artists>some artist>some album> all I see is EMPTY (Same thing with Browse Albums) Dan asks this because we've identified an issue related to Daylight Savings on Windows. It turns out that Windows reports a different file modification date after the automatic change for Daylight Savings (see http://www.codeproject.com/datetime/dstbugs.asp for more information). This makes us think that the file has changed. A bug in 6.0.0 (fixed in the latest nightlies) deletes the file from the database rather than re-reading tags. If you are seeing this bug, updating to the latest 6.0.1 nightly (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0.1/) will fix it. Is this related to Bug 1239, which is currently irritating me? (The symptoms seem similar, but 1239 sure looks like a charset issue.) -- Mike Kozlowski http://www.klio.org/mlk/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.0 problem - playlist stops frequently at track boundaries
I was able to recreate this on my 6.0.0 installation and found it was related to the problem detailed in http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/discuss/2005-April/047587.html. Could anyone who is seeing this problem confirm that it has been fixed in the latest 6.0.1 nightly (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0.1/)? Thanks, --Vidur Matt Alioto wrote: I've had it do similar while having wireless SB1 synced with SS2. I think I just pressed play to get it going again but can't remember for sure. It did stop between tracks. Don't let education interfere with your learning... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Still Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:01 AM To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: [slim] 6.0 problem - playlist stops frequently at track boundaries Apologies for filling the list with individual issues but i figure they're easier to keep on topic. I'm getting frequent 'stops' using 6.0 whether on SS2 or SB1s. Tracks will play for a while and then the playlist will stop and i'll need to hit pause to restart. It always happens at a track boundary - eg track 9 will end, the title of track 10 will show but it wont play until i hit pause. Anyone else? (BTW, i am very impressed by 6.0 generally - the search is vastly improved and really quick) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also be legally privileged and/or price sensitive. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. All e-mail sent to this address will be received by Acacia Pacific Holding's e-mail system and is subjected to archiving and review by someone other than the recipient. Acacia Pacific Holdings has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We accept no liability for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can not view songs under albums unless I play album
David Makoski wrote: Okay I at SlimServer version 6.0.0. Now if I use the SlimServer or the hardware remote and browse albums, I see all my albums. If I then select and album and press the right arrow, I get "Empty" !? Now If I play the album, then press the right arrow I'll now see and am able to switch to a song within the album. This happens withthe hardware, SlimServer, and Softsqueeze . Running XP Prof SP-2, All songs in Apple LossLess format. Whats up? Please see http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/discuss/2005-April/047587.html. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: "EMPTY" when browsing
Dan Sully wrote: * Phillip Kerman shaped the electrons to say... Nearly all my album tracks are unavailable... when I do Browse music>Browse Artists>some artist>some album> all I see is EMPTY (Same thing with Browse Albums) I had to give up my old way of accessing files (Browse Music Folder) because v6.0.0 has serious performance issues with this feature (I'd prefer to just browse folder). But maybe because I never really used browse music/browse artist (or browse alums) I'm using them wrong. Is everyone that's having this problem on Windows and in a Daylight Savings timezone? Dan asks this because we've identified an issue related to Daylight Savings on Windows. It turns out that Windows reports a different file modification date after the automatic change for Daylight Savings (see http://www.codeproject.com/datetime/dstbugs.asp for more information). This makes us think that the file has changed. A bug in 6.0.0 (fixed in the latest nightlies) deletes the file from the database rather than re-reading tags. If you are seeing this bug, updating to the latest 6.0.1 nightly (http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.0.1/) will fix it. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: "EMPTY" when browsing
* Phillip Kerman shaped the electrons to say... Nearly all my album tracks are unavailable... when I do Browse music>Browse Artists>some artist>some album> all I see is EMPTY (Same thing with Browse Albums) I had to give up my old way of accessing files (Browse Music Folder) because v6.0.0 has serious performance issues with this feature (I'd prefer to just browse folder). But maybe because I never really used browse music/browse artist (or browse alums) I'm using them wrong. Is everyone that's having this problem on Windows and in a Daylight Savings timezone? Thanks. -D -- "My pockets hurt." - Homer Simpson ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Duplicated Artists (v6.0.1)
I think you're on to something. It looks like mine is separating the albums I ripped recently using EAC and the older ones I ripped using iTunes. Still, I thought that when using iTunes, SS didn't read the track tags at all, and just used the information stored in the iTunes database. There is no separation when I view the files in iTunes. Scott I've seen the same duplicated artist issue on linux (using 6.1/trunk) I've just thought it was my tags until now. The tags look right on the surface, but often I find the items under one version of the artist are mp3 while the flacs end up under the other version, and since I use different programs for tagging each, I'm guessing that perhaps one is ending up as utf-8 while the other is 8859-1 or something. I haven't really had a chance to try "fixing" my tags yet, so that's all still just a guess. -michael ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Server-side conversion for AAC/Apple Lossless?
SB2 Users: I am considering purchase of the SB2 but I have one concern that I've been unable to answer in searching the FAQ/archives: Most of my audio files are either AAC or Apple Lossless. Does Slimserver6 do a server-side conversion to another format before streaming to the SB2, and then convert to PCM prior to D/A conversion on the SB2 side? If so, I fear heavy CPU usage and loss of fidelity from the extra format conversion. Thanks Aaron ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
SV: [slim] AlienBBC for Win2K
Hi, When I try this I get no sound and this in the log when I play Radio 1: SW: Created Named Pipe: \\.\pipe\socketwrapper000696 SW: Created child process with command line: "C:\Programmer\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mplayer.exe" -really-quiet -vo null -cache 128 -af resample=44100:0:1 -ao pcm:file=\\.\pipe\socketwrapper000696 "rtsp://rmlivev8.bbc.net.uk/farm/*/ev7/live24/radio1/live/r1_dsat_g2.ra"; SW: Created child process with command line: "C:\Programmer\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\lame.exe" --silent -q 3 -b 0 - - SW: Killing MoveData thread The plugin loads ok, and as far as I can see mplayer.exe and codec-files is in the right place. Any suggestions ? Peter -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Neil Sleightholm Sendt: 4. april 2005 20:34 Til: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Emne: Re: [slim] AlienBBC for Win2K This is what works for me (tested on Windows XP SP2 and Windows 2003 server). Neil Installing AlienBBC on Windows These instructions assume you are installing on to SlimServer V6. Files you will need: AlienBBC v0.96 or later: http://www.mrtickle.org/alienbbc.html Direct link: http://www.mrtickle.org/downloads/alienbbc_0.96.windows.zip http://www.mrtickle.org/downloads/alienbbc_0.97.windows.zip http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/MPlayer-mingw32-1.0 pre6.zip MPlayer 1.0pre6: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html Direct link: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/MPlayer-mingw32-1.0 pre6.zip Alternatively - MPlayer 1.0pre7: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html Direct link: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/MPlayer-mingw32-dev -CVS-050315.zip (Important: If you use this version you will need to complete step 4 of the installation instruction as the command line has changed.) Codec Files: cook3260.dll (6.0.8.2523) and pncrt.dll (6.0.0.0) http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html These files are this zip file Windows Essential codecs Installing Extract the AlienBBC zip file into the main slimserver directory (be sure to retain the folder names). This is usually: "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server". If it asks to overwrite Socketwrapper say no as this is now part of SlimServer V6. Extract mplayer.exe to the folder "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread" Extract cook3260.dll and pncrt.dll to the folder "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\codec" (Note: the folder "codec" won't normally exist on the default SlimServer installation.) For mplayer 1.0pre7 only. Open the file "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\slimserver-convert.conf" and comment out (add a hash character to the start of the line) the 6 lines that follow "# Default mplayer up to pre6". Then uncomment, remove the # character from, the 6 lines that follow "# Alternative for mplayer pre7 or later". Testing Run '"C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\slim.exe" --d_plugin' from a command prompt to see if there are any errors loading the plugin. Restart Slimserver and see if AlienBBC appears on the web page and on the Radio menu on a slim player. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
Josh wrote: I use single file with embedded cue for CDs. all my metadata is in an external DB and I've been using custom s/w with a rio receiver for playback. now that I have a SB2 to play with I want to look into how to do the same thing (even if it means I have to tag the FLACs somehow). Josh Hi Josh, Would you be willing share a bit on how you've implemented this? I'm currently wrestling with how to store flac images in a meaningful way, and hadn't considered external storage for metadata. What do you actually name your images? Something human-readable, or something more processing-oriented like the md5sum of the flac file? would you be willing to share your schema? ObSlim: I'm very interested in seeing excellent flac image support in slimserver, since I didn't even know it supported it at all. I'd like to help out with it where I can. I currently have an audiotron, but the features of the squeezebox2 look really neat so I'm considering picking one up. Dan, I live about a mile away from you guys, I don't suppose it'd be possible to drive by and buy one directly, would it? :) -Sean. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems using Slimserver 6.0
The problem that was causing this error: Argument "file:///export/music/Jazz/Miles%20Davis/Facets/05%20Thre..." isn't numeric in subroutine entry at /usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/DBIx/ContextualFetch.pm line 51. turned out to be a problem between slimserver and the version of the DBD::SQLite module that was installed. I replaced it with the copy from the slimdevices downloads at http://svn.slimservices.com/vendor/src/ and that problem is solved. My thanks to Dan Sully for the help on that. Note that the version from slimdevices is the same version number as tome one from CPAN. I don't know how slimserver, perl,or anyone is supposed to tell the difference. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
Josh Coalson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I use single file with embedded cue for CDs. all my metadata is > in an external DB and I've been using custom s/w with a rio receiver > for playback. now that I have a SB2 to play with I want to look > into how to do the same thing (even if it means I have to tag > the FLACs somehow). > Josh: I've been working on some c code to extract metadata from CDPLAYER.ini and create cuesheets. It also stuffs the cuesheet into a "cuesheet=" comment in the flac and then calls metaflac to import the cuesheet into the flac. I'm sure you could modify the code to reference the metadata in your db. The code isn't quite ready for a real release, but it's yours if you want it. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can not view songs under albums unless I play album
Hi, Oh, yes, one other thing... If you could send me those two files, could you send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Kevin P. On Apr 4, 2005, at 5:11 PM, Kevin Pearsall wrote: David, I think this might be related to this bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1278 Could you tell me a couple of things about your setup? It would be very helpful in order to isolate the bug...: - what is your Music Folder set to in Server Settings? - is the server set to 'Use iTunes' or '..not Use iTunes'? - what is your iTunes Music Folder set to in your iTunes preferences? -- has that setting ever been changed, to your recollection? - could you possibly send me a copy of your iTunes Music Library.xml file (usually in C:\Documents and Settings\your-username\My Documents\My Music\iTunes\) and slimserversql.db (usually in C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache\)? And in terms of a workaround, this should probably solve the problem for you: - set your music folder to a blank string and click change - wait a couple of minutes, close SlimServer - stop the SlimServer service (click start, click run, type in 'services.msc' and hit enter. find SlimServer, click it and click stop on the left) - move slimserversql.db out of C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache\ - restart the SlimServer service - restart the SlimServer application Does that help? Regards, Kevin P. On Apr 4, 2005, at 4:12 PM, David Makoski wrote: Okay I at SlimServer version 6.0.0. Now if I use the SlimServer or the hardware remote and browse albums, I see all my albums. If I then select and album and press the right arrow, I get "Empty" !? Now If I play the album, then press the right arrow I'll now see and am able to switch to a song within the album. This happens withthe hardware, SlimServer, and Softsqueeze . Running XP Prof SP-2, All songs in Apple LossLess format. Whats up? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can not view songs under albums unless I play album
David, I think this might be related to this bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1278 Could you tell me a couple of things about your setup? It would be very helpful in order to isolate the bug...: - what is your Music Folder set to in Server Settings? - is the server set to 'Use iTunes' or '..not Use iTunes'? - what is your iTunes Music Folder set to in your iTunes preferences? -- has that setting ever been changed, to your recollection? - could you possibly send me a copy of your iTunes Music Library.xml file (usually in C:\Documents and Settings\your-username\My Documents\My Music\iTunes\) and slimserversql.db (usually in C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache\)? And in terms of a workaround, this should probably solve the problem for you: - set your music folder to a blank string and click change - wait a couple of minutes, close SlimServer - stop the SlimServer service (click start, click run, type in 'services.msc' and hit enter. find SlimServer, click it and click stop on the left) - move slimserversql.db out of C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache\ - restart the SlimServer service - restart the SlimServer application Does that help? Regards, Kevin P. On Apr 4, 2005, at 4:12 PM, David Makoski wrote: Okay I at SlimServer version 6.0.0. Now if I use the SlimServer or the hardware remote and browse albums, I see all my albums. If I then select and album and press the right arrow, I get "Empty" !? Now If I play the album, then press the right arrow I'll now see and am able to switch to a song within the album. This happens withthe hardware, SlimServer, and Softsqueeze . Running XP Prof SP-2, All songs in Apple LossLess format. Whats up? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Perl 5.8 on SME6
Stefan Kuhnert wrote: ...I get this message: The following modules failed to load: XML::Parser To download and compile them, please run: /usr/local/slimserver/Bin/build-perl-modules.pl I had some trouble with SS6.x under perl 5.6.1, namely apparently missing modules that I couldn't build because the build failed due to missing some other thing... ; so just out of interest and to avoid dependency hell, I tried Michael's method on an RH7.2 system, and perl 5.8.6 certainly came up. I now have a running slimserver 6.x, but I get the same error message as Stefan. I wonder if some perl aspect is hard-coded somewhere and is getting lost... however apart from that message it is behaving, fingers crossed... Well, in fact I still get the error message on machine startup that I got with 5.4.x, namely: nice: invalid priority '--user' so I have to start it from the command line, and I would /love/ someone to make any useful suggestions about what might be causing this, but apart from that it's behaving :) --Richard Elen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Re: Re: Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get itworkingonSuse orRH 7.2?
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[slim] Can not view songs under albums unless I play album
Okay I at SlimServer version 6.0.0. Now if I use the SlimServer or the hardware remote and browse albums, I see all my albums. If I then select and album and press the right arrow, I get "Empty" !? Now If I play the album, then press the right arrow I'll now see and am able to switch to a song within the album. This happens withthe hardware, SlimServer, and Softsqueeze . Running XP Prof SP-2, All songs in Apple LossLess format. Whats up? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] squeezebox and squeezebox 2 at 54 or 104 mbps? (kdf/paul williamson??)
Hi I am currently running a Netgear DG834G with a card (wirelessly - 104 mbps) for a laptop and wired PC. I also run a Squeezbox wireless, which runs at a meagre 11 mbps, meaning that the rest of the system has to run at 11mbps. I was going to buy a Squeezebox2, which runs at 54 mbps, to run together with the existing Squeezebox, in another room. I think if I have a wireless adaptor to run from the squeezebox (i.e. as though it were a wired box), then I can run the adaptor at 54 mbps, to match the squeezebox 2. In which case I should probably buy a squeezebox 2, wireless, and a wireless adaptor for the existing squeezebox. Any thoughts on whether this would work, and which adaptor I should buy? Thanks. Damian. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Better forum please!
>Yes, you're right but I don't want to have all the mail in my private mailbox where it would drown my other, more important, mail. I have a filter that runs on newly-received mail and throws any containing "[slim]" into a separate folder. I am curious if there is something about your setup that prevents this approach? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
--- Steinar Bjaerum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Josh, > > Thanks a lot for your precise answers to the FLAC questions. Getting > answers right from the source is great. glad to! > One last question, do you use separate FLAC files for each track, or > do you > use whole album encoding with embedded cuesheet? I use single file with embedded cue for CDs. all my metadata is in an external DB and I've been using custom s/w with a rio receiver for playback. now that I have a SB2 to play with I want to look into how to do the same thing (even if it means I have to tag the FLACs somehow). Josh __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: Perl 5.8 on SME6 [was Re: [slim] Re: Re: Is it time to recall 6?Anyone get it working onSuse orRH 7.2?]
>A workaround? There is! :-) I love this list. :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: Re: Re: Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get it workingonSuse orRH 7.2?
>So I know that Michael Herger is running on SME 6.0 - so that shouldn't be an issue for you. > >I've personally seen failures with RedHat 7.1 and 7.2 systems. Okay, you've just made me a very happy boy. Thank you! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Multiple music folders / rescanning
Are you running SlimServer as a Windows service? If so, can you try running it as an application? To do this, kill the slim.exe process in the Task Manager and start slim.exe from the command line. My only guess is that it could be a permissions issue. --Vidur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - searched the archives but still can't quite figure out why this doesn't appear to be working for me. I have recently been trying to get the rest of my collection scanned and am using a second HD. Original directory (which Slimserver has as "music folder") is F:\Music. Inside this folder are the albums by genre folder. This has always scanned and worked fine so I followed the same structure on the second HD: directory is G:\Music2. Inside this folder are the albums by genre folder. I then put a shortcut into the F:\Music folder which points to G:\Music2 folder. However when I rescan I encounter the following problems: 1. Even after all night the slimserver screen still shows "rescanning". It has rescanned the files in the orignal directory fine and has updated this but not included those in G:\Music2. 2. If I go to browse music folders it shows Music 2 as a link but selecting this brings up the message: You need to specify a path to your directory containing your MP3 files. Click here to go to the server settings and do this now. My understanding was the slimserver couldn't handle multiple locations, only shortcuts from the one location to another. Is this correct? FYI - Slimserver V5.1 running on a Win2k server box Drives F: & G: are the only two partitions on the same HD (historical reason why it wasn't simply left as one HD). What am I doing wrong?! And how can I sort it? TIA Beau ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duplicated Artists (v6.0.1)
Scott Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm on the 4-4 nightly of the 6.0.1 branch, which cleared up the > composer / artist mixup. I'm now noticing that a few of the artists > are being duplicated in the browse artists list. The first listing > contains one album, with all the rest of the albums under the second > listing. > > The tags and folders are all fine. This is on XP using itunes. I don't > see a bug created for this yet, but I can do that if the problem isn't > just me. > > Also, v6 is getting better and better- good job to everyone involved. I've seen the same duplicated artist issue on linux (using 6.1/trunk) I've just thought it was my tags until now. The tags look right on the surface, but often I find the items under one version of the artist are mp3 while the flacs end up under the other version, and since I use different programs for tagging each, I'm guessing that perhaps one is ending up as utf-8 while the other is 8859-1 or something. I haven't really had a chance to try "fixing" my tags yet, so that's all still just a guess. -michael -- "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "I think so, Brain, but how will we get the Spice Girls into the paella?" ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can I remove the "all songs" "all albums" menus
Hi How can I remove the "all songs" "all albums" menus from slimserver ?. I find having them annoying Graham ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 6.0.0 (Mac) falls over adding to "now playing"
This is odd, because I could swear this was working for a few days after it was installed... but now, when addding an MP3 stream from an iTunes playlist to "Now Playing", via the plus-sign in the web interface, the server (the first 6.0.0 production on Mac OS 10.3.8) falls over with this in slimserver.log: Can't call method "namesort" on an undefined value at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/DataStores/DBI/Track.pm line 144. 2005-04-04 13:29:00.9557 Got to the END. 2005-04-04 13:29:00.9559 Got sigint. 2005-04-04 13:29:00.9560 SlimServer cleaning up. The only possible clue I can think of (and this might well be a red herring) is that I had recently tried linking my hardware SB1 with a SoftSqueeze player. The SoftSqueeze player is now down, and I see no sign now that the server is still trying to find it, but *maybe* that's an issue. Oh, and my apologies: I hate to post and run, and ordinarily I'd load up a nightly, turn on more debugging as suggested, and in general try to be useful debugging this... but I'm on my way out the door and will be away from where this setup is running for several days, so I'm just flinging this note over the wall in the hope it'll be useful, but I'm afraid I won't be able to follow up in a timely way. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: SS 6.0.1: UTF-8 in file/directory name
Hi Dan,
Yes, music folder is local on the linux box, where slim runs too.
Locale is set to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Various Artists]# su - slimserver
-bash-2.05b$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
Ls -lart says:
drwxr-xr-x2 audioaudio4096 May 26 2004 Caf? Do Brazil
If I want to move (rename) the file (to test) and type mv Caf(tab to
complete) it becomes.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Various Artists]# mv Café\ Do\ Brazil/
Hmm... So bash can deal with it.
I did not move the dir to a new name.
I have set this in /etc/init.d/slimserver
start() {
echo -n "Starting SlimServer: "
LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1
export LC_CTYPE
daemon --user $SLIMSERVER_USER $SLIMSERVER_BIN $SLIMSERVER_ARGS
Wiped the cache.
But the error stays in the logs. Browsing Music folder to Latin/Various
Artist/ also does not show Café Do Brazil.
After rename the dir to "Cafe Do Brazil" I could browse to this directory
with Browse Music folder. Before it was not showing up.
Also set export LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1 (to make sure it really get's
picked up) and started slimserver.pl from the command prompt, but the errors
stay in the log (not for Cafe Do Brazil anymore oc) after wiping the cache.
Starting slimserver (6.0.1) on XP and using the same music folder over samba
does not have these issues. All songs are found and correctly tagged.
Any other suggestions are welcome.
Dolf
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sully
> Sent: maandag 4 april 2005 21:08
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] Re: SS 6.0.1: UTF-8 in file/directory name
>
>
> * Dolf Dijkstra shaped the electrons to say...
>
> >utf8 "\xE9" does not map to Unicode at
> >/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Formats/Parse.pm line 131.
> >[/music/test/own/Latin/Various Artists/Caf\xE9 Do
> Brazil/Marcos Valle -
> >A Vontage De Rever Voce 09.flac] does not exist or cannot be
> read: No
> >such file or directory at
> >/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/Audio/FLAC/Header.pm line 59,
> line 6.
> > >
> >I have unloaded most of my music via a samba3 share. On windows
> >explorer (on
> >XP) this directroty looks ok: Café Do Brazil (with the
> accented e). Linux ls
> >like it less, but I don't (didn't??) really care about what
> ls says because
> >5.4 did not have issues with these file/directory names.
> >
> >Please don't tell me that I need to rename all my
> directories :(. There
> >must but a silver bullit somewhere.
>
> Is your music on the Windows machine (via Samba) or local to
> the RH9 machine?
>
> What does your LC_CTYPE environment variable look like?
>
> I'm assuming it's: en_US.UTF-8 (or similar).
>
> Can you try setting it to:
>
> export LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1
>
> and rescanning?
>
> -D
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RE: [slim] Re: 6.0.1 4-apr-05 issues
Quoting Phillip Kerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Also, Home/Music Folder (in web interface) shows: > H 2 A T A B T B T B C T C T D - D E F _ F G I T J K L M T M N O P T P R S T > S T U V T X Y Z > > at the top http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1299 add yourself to the cc list if you want to be in on any progress or questions. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: Perl 5.8 on SME6 [was Re: [slim] Re: Re: Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get it working onSuse orRH 7.2?]
ideas are always good, even if they don't work Michael Herger schrieb: On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:14:07 +0200, Stefan Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, deleted the link and the server is running as before. With the message, but running :-) Ok, was just an idea... Michael Herger schrieb: Stefan [..] I have the shoutcast plugin enabled, because I use this sometimes. I have seen, that this is included. I have disabled the shoutcast plugin and restarted the server but the message appears again. I get this message: The following modules failed to load: XML::Parser One idea: could you go to SlimServer's CPAN/arch/5.8 folder and do ln -s i386-linux-thread-multi i386-linux Then restart the slimserver. Does it still complain about XML::Parser? To download and compile them, please run: /usr/local/slimserver/Bin/build-perl-modules.pl Best Regards Stefan Michael Herger schrieb: Hi Stephan you are the best. I seriously doubt this :-). But I'm still glad it worked for you. You're the guy running eisfair, aren't you? This is intersting to know. So there are at least two distributions which might work. I have downloaded your tarball and followed your instructions. Theslimserver v6 ist now running very well on my system. Thanks for your work. This should be an official download from theslimdevices website, to help out users like me. I have only one error message during the startup of slimserver. He is telling me that XML::Parser is not installed. This seems to be no problem, because everything is working for me so far. This is strange as it is included with SlimServer (/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/XML). Do you use the ShoutcastBrowser plugin? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] losing connection to server--a lot with 6.0.0
Phillip, Phillip, the "internet radio no computer" is a feature of SqueezeNetwork, which is not quite ready for its debut. Stay tuned, we'll have more to announce before long. When its ready, SqueezeNetwork will enable Squeezebox2s to play internet radio without a local SlimServer running. -Dave On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 06:06:57PM -0800, Phillip Kerman wrote: > > Is the "internet radio no computer" feature a feature of 6.0.0 server or > SB2? > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FC3, Softsqueeze, and MusicMagic
Richard Titmuss wrote: Sorry, I should have been a little more instructive here. The rpm will install Softsqueeze in /opt/softsqueeze. Use the /opt/softsqueeze/softsqueeze command to run softsqueeze. You will also find a script to start Softsqueeze headless, and desktop icons you can copy to your desktop. all really cool. unfortunately, this install leads to the same behavior I was seeing before -- the display darkens when I turn off power (regardless of the player settings) and I get no sound from the system when softsqueeze is on and I try to play something. I'm hoping to trouble-shoot this more when I get home tonight. to recap (in hopes that someone who knows more than I might suggest a test and/or a fix), here's what I know: --the current malfunctioning behavior appears to be the same as what I was experiencing earlier last week with slightly earlier versions of slimserver and softsqueeze. --softsqueeze has functioned just fine on this system under slimserver 5.4.1, and it worked just fine for about 24 hours last week, after I upgraded to slimserver 6.0.1 and softsqueeze 2.0b3. --softsqueeze stopped working after I installed MusicMagicMixer and reset the JAVA_HOME path --terminal messages when softsqueeze is running include these lines: 0[AudioDecoder-0] WARN javasound - AudioDecoder could not write buf to outputBuffer 86 [AudioMixer-0] WARN javasound - Java Sound Audio buffer underrun bufAvail=19456 (however, I don't know whether I should worry about this.) --John ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing
Rich Freedman wrote: ... I'm willing to help where I can, though I'm not (yet) intimately familiar with Perl. Please forgive me if I am out of line here, but I'd like to suggest that, once the hubub around the new release settles down, a small core of developers, whether from SD or the open-source community, take a breather from both general single-issue bug-fixing and new feature production, and analyze the existing code base for stability and maintainability issues. Then these issues could be addressed. Once the base is stable (the music plays, the music continues to play, and the player shows the song that is actually playing, for example), then everyone could proceed with bug fixing additional features and adding new ones. Again, despite the learning curve, I'm more than willing to help with all of the above. P.S. Do I understand from earlier messages on the list that the server code is single-threaded? If so, this explains a lot of the behavior that I have seen, and seems like an obvious place to try to improve performance and scalability. Hi, yes, that's correct. http://slimdevices.com/dev_resources.html to get started. You'll want a subversion client: http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] export settings / restore settings
Phillip Kerman wrote: Something like this needs to be more thoroughly documented somewhere, especially given the current environment of nightlies being the most reliable builds. Is there a list somewhere outlining what gets clobbered during an install and what does not? Is my original suggestion not worthy of consideration? Thanks, Phillip I'm sorry, I must have missed your suggestion... All I see from you in this thread is "The point is that it's not terribly convenient and if there was a way to make it eaiser that would be good." -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SS 6.0 and RSS plugin
Roy and KDF, If you can reproduce that message reliably, could you try with the attached RssNews.pm? It should print some more messages which will help me track it down. Please send me the output if you see the usual error, or a message about display_current not set. Also send the result of grepping for "Rss" in your server prefs file, if you know how to do that. You can send directly to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll post a fix to the list as soon as I have one. Thanks, -Dave RssNews.pm Description: Perl program ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SS 6.0.1: UTF-8 in file/directory name
* Dolf Dijkstra shaped the electrons to say... utf8 "\xE9" does not map to Unicode at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Formats/Parse.pm line 131. [/music/test/own/Latin/Various Artists/Caf\xE9 Do Brazil/Marcos Valle - A Vontage De Rever Voce 09.flac] does not exist or cannot be read: No such file or directory at /usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/Audio/FLAC/Header.pm line 59, line 6. I have unloaded most of my music via a samba3 share. On windows explorer (on XP) this directroty looks ok: Cafà Do Brazil (with the accented e). Linux ls like it less, but I don't (didn't??) really care about what ls says because 5.4 did not have issues with these file/directory names. Please don't tell me that I need to rename all my directories :(. There must but a silver bullit somewhere. Is your music on the Windows machine (via Samba) or local to the RH9 machine? What does your LC_CTYPE environment variable look like? I'm assuming it's: en_US.UTF-8 (or similar). Can you try setting it to: export LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1 and rescanning? -D -- They're techno trousers, ex-NASA, fantastic for walkies! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SS 6.0.1: UTF-8 in file/directory name
Title: Message Hi, Just upgraded my 5.4 slim server to 6.0.1 (on RH9) to host my new SB2. After the scan I found my collection a bit small. Looked in slimserver.log utf8 "\xE9" does not map to Unicode at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Formats/Parse.pm line 131. [/music/test/own/Latin/Various Artists/Caf\xE9 Do Brazil/Marcos Valle - A Vontage De Rever Voce 09.flac] does not exist or cannot be read: No such file or directory at /usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/Audio/FLAC/Header.pm line 59, line 6. I have unloaded most of my music via a samba3 share. On windows explorer (on XP) this directroty looks ok: Café Do Brazil (with the accented e). Linux ls like it less, but I don't (didn't??) really care about what ls says because 5.4 did not have issues with these file/directory names. Please don't tell me that I need to rename all my directories :(. There must but a silver bullit somewhere. Anybody who has dealt with this before or give me some hints on how to recover? Thanks Dolf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
Josh, Thanks a lot for your precise answers to the FLAC questions. Getting answers right from the source is great. One last question, do you use separate FLAC files for each track, or do you use whole album encoding with embedded cuesheet? Steinar > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh Coalson > Sent: 4. april 2005 19:45 > To: Slim Devices Discussion > Subject: RE: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question > > --- Steinar Bjaerum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > - Josh Coalson wrote: > > > > > > --- Steinar Bjaerum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > To extract a single track from an album-FLAC without complete > > > > transcoding, > > > > you suggest to re-encode only the first and last frame of the > > track > > > > on the > > > > server before streaming to the client, and stream the other > > frames as > > > > is. > > > > This means that the first frame would be shorter than the other > > > > frames. How > > > > does that relate to the "FLAC subset" format described at > > > > http://flac.sourceforge.net/format.html#subset where it is stated > > > > that to be > > > > truly streamable the block size should be constant? > > > > > > it would not technically be 'subset' but the decoder should > > > still be able to handle it in this case. however due to a > > > bad design decision about the way the sample/frame number is > > > stored in the frame header, the decoder after receiving the > > > partial frame would not be able to rely on the sample number > > > decoded by libFLAC. > > > > > > the problem is that FLAC either stores the sample number or > > > the frame number in the frame header, but not *which* one is > > > stored; that has to be inferred from other parameters, and > > > sending a shortened frame first breaks the inference model. > > > if I ever get to updating the format that will be one of > > > the first things I fix. for now, if seeking is all handled > > > on the server side by converting generic seek instructions > > > from the client to libFLAC seek calls on the server, which > > > serves back a valid FLAC stream, then the client probably > > > doesn't pay attention to the sample number returned from > > > the libFLAC decoder anyway, it just gets decoded samples and > > > plays them. hopefully soon I'll have a better understanding > > > of the protocol. > > > > > So a decoder which has as only task to sequentially decode the frames > > as > > they appear in the FLAC stream will be able to handle the > > variable-sized > > input frames. From the frame headers the decoder can extract the > > (variable) > > sizes of the frames and decode them properly. I guess problems can > > occur if > > the decoder relies on the size of the first frame to allocate buffers > > etc. > > The discrepancies in the sample/block number in the frame headers > > will not > > be a problem as long as the decoder will not perform searches in the > > stream. > > Am I correct? > > yes, all correct. > > > > > I am not at all an expert on this, just an idea: Do you consider > > > > functionality for sample-accurate extraction of a track from a > > > > CUE-embedded > > > > FLAC to a separate standalone format compliant FLAC stream to be > > > > generic > > > > enough to be added to libFLAC? I know this can be easily done by > > > > using the > > > > index points to decode and then encode (as is currently done in > > > > SlimServer). > > > > I'm thinking about a more efficient method that could take > > advantage > > > > of the > > > > fact that both the input and output is FLAC. > > > > > > hmm, maybe a frame-cutting interface would do the job. I've > > > thought about that in order to facilitate a FLAC-splitting > > > tool but have balked so far because of this design problem in > > > FLAC framing above. > > > > > Assuming the track is to be extracted to a separate file, not > > necessarily > > intended for streaming. Would it work to modify the STREAMINFO header > > properly, i.e. indicate variable sized blocks etc, then reencode the > > first > > and last frames to get correct track start and stop, and finally > > modify the > > headers of the frames in the middle with the correct sample numbers? > > If done properly, will such a solution result in a file compliant > > with the > > FLAC format? > > almost; in addition, for every frame you will have to get the > encoder to store the blocksize in the header (blocksize bits = > 0110 or 0111, c.f. > http://flac.sourceforge.net/format.html#frame_header) to get > the variable-blocksize logic to kick in, which the current libFLAC > does not do because it is currently designed for fixed-blocksize. > it uses blocksize bits 0001-0101/1000- whenever possible > (using only blocksize bits 0110/0111 for the last frame in a > stream, or for --lax streams when the blocksize cannot be > represented by blocksize bits 0001-0101/1000-). > > I really regret storing frame numbers in t
RE: [slim] export settings / restore settings
>Something like this needs to be more thoroughly documented somewhere, > especially given the current environment of nightlies being the most > reliable builds. Is there a list somewhere outlining what > gets clobbered > during an install and what does not? Is my original suggestion not worthy of consideration? Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Re: 6.0.1 4-apr-05 issues
* Phillip Kerman shaped the electrons to say... Are you browsing while the rescan is still happening? Yes... how else do I know when it's done? You will see a track count on the main page. -D -- "You can usually recover from production flaws...but you can never recover from a bad design". ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: Perl 5.8 on SME6 [was Re: [slim] Re: Re: Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get it working onSuse orRH 7.2?]
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:14:07 +0200, Stefan Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, deleted the link and the server is running as before. With the message, but running :-) Ok, was just an idea... Michael Herger schrieb: Stefan [..] I have the shoutcast plugin enabled, because I use this sometimes. I have seen, that this is included. I have disabled the shoutcast plugin and restarted the server but the message appears again. I get this message: The following modules failed to load: XML::Parser One idea: could you go to SlimServer's CPAN/arch/5.8 folder and do ln -s i386-linux-thread-multi i386-linux Then restart the slimserver. Does it still complain about XML::Parser? To download and compile them, please run: /usr/local/slimserver/Bin/build-perl-modules.pl Best Regards Stefan Michael Herger schrieb: Hi Stephan you are the best. I seriously doubt this :-). But I'm still glad it worked for you. You're the guy running eisfair, aren't you? This is intersting to know. So there are at least two distributions which might work. I have downloaded your tarball and followed your instructions. The slimserver v6 ist now running very well on my system. Thanks for your work. This should be an official download from the slimdevices website, to help out users like me. I have only one error message during the startup of slimserver. He is telling me that XML::Parser is not installed. This seems to be no problem, because everything is working for me so far. This is strange as it is included with SlimServer (/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/XML). Do you use the ShoutcastBrowser plugin? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: 6.0.1 4-apr-05 issues
> Send me your slimserversql.db file. Will do > > Are you browsing while the rescan is still happening? Yes... how else do I know when it's done? Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] AlienBBC for Win2K
This is what works for me (tested on Windows XP SP2 and Windows 2003 server). Neil Installing AlienBBC on Windows These instructions assume you are installing on to SlimServer V6. Files you will need: AlienBBC v0.96 or later: http://www.mrtickle.org/alienbbc.html Direct link: http://www.mrtickle.org/downloads/alienbbc_0.96.windows.zip http://www.mrtickle.org/downloads/alienbbc_0.97.windows.zip http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/MPlayer-mingw32-1.0 pre6.zip MPlayer 1.0pre6: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html Direct link: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/MPlayer-mingw32-1.0 pre6.zip Alternatively - MPlayer 1.0pre7: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html Direct link: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-beta/MPlayer-mingw32-dev -CVS-050315.zip (Important: If you use this version you will need to complete step 4 of the installation instruction as the command line has changed.) Codec Files: cook3260.dll (6.0.8.2523) and pncrt.dll (6.0.0.0) http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html These files are this zip file Windows Essential codecs Installing Extract the AlienBBC zip file into the main slimserver directory (be sure to retain the folder names). This is usually: "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server". If it asks to overwrite Socketwrapper say no as this is now part of SlimServer V6. Extract mplayer.exe to the folder "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread" Extract cook3260.dll and pncrt.dll to the folder "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\codec" (Note: the folder "codec" won't normally exist on the default SlimServer installation.) For mplayer 1.0pre7 only. Open the file "C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\slimserver-convert.conf" and comment out (add a hash character to the start of the line) the 6 lines that follow "# Default mplayer up to pre6". Then uncomment, remove the # character from, the 6 lines that follow "# Alternative for mplayer pre7 or later". Testing Run '"C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\slim.exe" --d_plugin' from a command prompt to see if there are any errors loading the plugin. Restart Slimserver and see if AlienBBC appears on the web page and on the Radio menu on a slim player. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: 6.0.1 4-apr-05 issues
Also, Home/Music Folder (in web interface) shows: H 2 A T A B T B T B C T C T D - D E F _ F G I T J K L M T M N O P T P R S T S T U V T X Y Z at the top Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] export settings / restore settings
Quoting JJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > - Original Message - > From: "kdf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Slim Devices Discussion" > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:20 PM > Subject: RE: [slim] export settings / restore settings > > > >> Well, I just installed the latest nightly and here's what I have > >> to do: > >> > >> --manually reinstall my old graphics folder for the fonts I like. > > > > The graphics dir does not currently support persistence over upgrades. > > Please file an enhancement request for this. > > Something like this needs to be more thoroughly documented somewhere, > especially given the current environment of nightlies being the most > reliable builds. Is there a list somewhere outlining what gets clobbered > during an install and what does not? > prefs file is not overwritten (specific resets for certain upgrades may be done on specific prefs only) plugins dir doesn't (except for server-included plugin files/paths, which are overwritten) skins dir doesn't (except for server-included skin paths) other tweaks and customisations are subject to overwriting on an upgrade. This includes graphics and any custom perl hacks. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing
I'll start off by saying that I love my new SB2, and am very grateful to everyone at slim devices and in the open-source community who has worked so hard on the SB. What follows is in the spirit of wanting this product to succeed, and of wanting to help make it do so. That said, I think that the server software needs a lot of work. I agree wholeheartedly with the need for a solid set of basic functionality vs. lots of new features. This is my main complaint with most commercial software too - lots of features, but questionable basic functionality. I just got my SB2 on Friday (3 days ago), and am running slimserver 6.0. (on Windows XP) I have never run any of the earlier versions, so I don't have anything to compare it to, but I understand that the code is now about 3 years old? While the server does have lots of features, it seems that it has a relatively high number of bugs in the basic functionality. So far, in three days, I've seen: - Server crashes when attempting to play a specific external stream (RadioIO Classical) - Wrong entry displayed in "now playing" while using a playlist (off by three entries, for entire song) - A mode where the player becomes inoperative, and the date/time on the display changes rapidly, until the player is power-cycled. - The player stops playing at the end of every song, while using a playlist. None of these problems, except the first, are consistently reproducable. All but the first seem to me to be problems with basic functionality - external streams are nice, but I consider them a 'feature'. I'm willing to help where I can, though I'm not (yet) intimately familiar with Perl. Please forgive me if I am out of line here, but I'd like to suggest that, once the hubub around the new release settles down, a small core of developers, whether from SD or the open-source community, take a breather from both general single-issue bug-fixing and new feature production, and analyze the existing code base for stability and maintainability issues. Then these issues could be addressed. Once the base is stable (the music plays, the music continues to play, and the player shows the song that is actually playing, for example), then everyone could proceed with bug fixing additional features and adding new ones. Again, despite the learning curve, I'm more than willing to help with all of the above. P.S. Do I understand from earlier messages on the list that the server code is single-threaded? If so, this explains a lot of the behavior that I have seen, and seems like an obvious place to try to improve performance and scalability. -- Rich Freedman Senior Software Engineer Cross Current Corporation http://www.crosscurrent.com -- >Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:17:20 +0100 >From: "Patrick Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing >To: "Slim Devices Discussion" > >Jack > >I don't doubt that it's a major project to move away from Perl, but IME of troubleshooting development projects, sometimes you do have to take a step backwards to go further forwards. (I don't know enough to suggest that that's the case here, I hasten to add).> > >I take your point about the overkill of today's hardware, but that's exactly what's produced all that large, slow, resource hungry un-managable code out there isn't it? >Lean & Mean (TM), I say ;-) > >The thing is, I'm running a XP on a 2.5G P4 with 256M RAM (not enough I know), with a test db of less that 400 songs and Slimserver with Softsqueeze frequently pauses playing if I pull up a page on the web. The HTML interface and the fishbone skin in particular is really excellent, but the refresh is painfully slow and bit clunky. My >concern is that if the average 'joe' tests out slimserver on his windows computer before buying a Squeezebox, and gets the same results, he probably won't bother - and that would be a real shame. > >To me it just seems a bit counter-productive to be adding new features on top, if the basic code isn't fast and clean. I can put up with a few bugs, but the music has to keep playing! > >Anyway, I think my SB2 might arrive tomorrow; I'm really looking forward to it and I know just how hard everyone at slim devices has worked to get it (and the software to run it) to me. So thanks! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.0.1 4-apr-05 issues
* Phillip Kerman shaped the electrons to say... Okay, so I'm using the latest nightly in attempt to get past the database corruption issues. I installed, wiped cache waited for it to finish rescanning ...now browse by artist or album is still messed up... so I'm back to my old way of browse music folder. But now what's even worse is that while it plays a song (I have it display TRACKNUM, TITLE - ARTIST - ALBUM (YEAR)) and it's totally messed up. Shows the right tracknum and title and artist (so far) but the album and year are wrong. To me, even the fact the database functionality is not working in 6.0.1--there are other issues that are more important. Anyway, tell me what else you want me to test but please have this fixed. Send me your slimserversql.db file. Are you browsing while the rescan is still happening? -D -- "You can usually recover from production flaws...but you can never recover from a bad design". ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 6.0.1 4-apr-05 issues
Okay, so I'm using the latest nightly in attempt to get past the database corruption issues. I installed, wiped cache waited for it to finish rescanning ...now browse by artist or album is still messed up... so I'm back to my old way of browse music folder. But now what's even worse is that while it plays a song (I have it display TRACKNUM, TITLE - ARTIST - ALBUM (YEAR)) and it's totally messed up. Shows the right tracknum and title and artist (so far) but the album and year are wrong. To me, even the fact the database functionality is not working in 6.0.1--there are other issues that are more important. Anyway, tell me what else you want me to test but please have this fixed. Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: 6.0 Does not run on My Mac - Help please!!
Dan Sully wrote: * Adrian Merwood shaped the electrons to say... I have run almost every version of SlimServer without a hitch on my Mac. 5.4.1 was running fine but I decided to upgrade to 6.0 did the install and since then the server will not start from the Preferences Pane. Running slimserver.pl from the command line I get lots of errors: mkdir /Users/adrian/Music/Playlists: File exists at Do you have write permission to this folder? -D Got it!!! Thankyou there was a folder named Playlists: Adrian ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New AlienBBC releases
If you save a playlist file to the playlist\AlienStream folder (where playlist is your normal SlimServer playlist folder), they will appear on the "AlienStream Playlists" menu. Neil Daniel Cohen wrote: > On 3/4/05 at 11:04 pm +0100, Jules Taplin wrote > > Linux/OSX users: if you had a previous version installed please > > delete the old mplayer.sh file as 0.95 and 0.97 move the location > > of this file (to ~/Bin), so your old one will not be overwritten > > with the new one > > On OS X the relevant Bin folder is inside > SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server > > How does one create a playlist? There are four or five programmes > that I listen to regularly, and it would be useful not to have to go > through the whole menu each time. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] export settings / restore settings
- Original Message - From: "kdf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Slim Devices Discussion" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: RE: [slim] export settings / restore settings Well, I just installed the latest nightly and here's what I have to do: --manually reinstall my old graphics folder for the fonts I like. The graphics dir does not currently support persistence over upgrades. Please file an enhancement request for this. Something like this needs to be more thoroughly documented somewhere, especially given the current environment of nightlies being the most reliable builds. Is there a list somewhere outlining what gets clobbered during an install and what does not? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] export settings / restore settings
Quoting Phillip Kerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Quoting Phillip Kerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Just an idea that hopefully leads to making installing new > > sever versions > > > easier: it'd be nice to be able to export all settings > > prior to upgrading > > > the server... then be able to restore those settings once > > the new version is > > > in. > > > > > > For me, one reason to avoid nightlies is the prospect of > > resetting all my > > > settings. > > > > Installing a nightly build should not overwrite your prefs > > file. Have you run > > into this at some point? > > > > > Well, I just installed the latest nightly and here's what I have to do: > > --manually reinstall my old graphics folder for the fonts I like. The graphics dir does not currently support persistence over upgrades. Please file an enhancement request for this. > --manually reinstall old conf file. You should not have to copy over with your old file as the prefs file is designed to be left alone, only being written for specific cases where an upgrade needs a reset to default values. Granted, if you have non-standard fonts chosen, then starting up the server before re-installing those graphics would affect teh conf file, but nothing else should be at this point. In the case of scrollRate and ScrollPixels, I dont think these were set for a reset, so you may want to file a bug report on that as well. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] AlienBBC 0.97 - Not handling RTSP properly
Here's the trace log (d_source) when I try and play the links for KPLU (in the Other Streams): 2005-04-04 11:04:21.5169 Trying to open protocol stream for http://www.mrtickle.org/dyn/RadioStations.txt? 2005-04-04 11:04:21.5171 Looking for handler for protocol http 2005-04-04 11:04:21.5172 Found handler for protocol http 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9311 Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 880) frame 1: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/Alien/Plugin.pm line 387) frame 2: Plugins::Alien::Plugin::__ANON__ (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 616) frame 3: Slim::Hardware::IR::executeButton (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 589) frame 4: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 640) frame 5: Slim::Hardware::IR::processCode (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 499) frame 6: Slim::Hardware::IR::releaseCode (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 394) frame 7: Slim::Hardware::IR::checkRelease (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Utils/Timers.pm line 62) frame 8: Slim::Utils::Timers::checkTimers (/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl line 611) frame 9: main::idle (/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl line 549) frame 10: main::main (/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl line ) 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9314 00:04:20:05:5b:58: Switching to mode stop from stop 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9315 Already in playmode stop : ignoring mode change 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9317 Adding song index 0 to song queue 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9318 Clearing out song queue first 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9319 Song queue is now 0 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9417 Trying to open protocol stream for rtsp://cool.str3am.com:554/broadcast/kplu.rm 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9419 Looking for handler for protocol rtsp 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9420 Found handler for protocol rtsp 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9424 Adding song index 0 to song queue 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9425 Clearing out song queue first 2005-04-04 11:04:25.9426 Song queue is now 0 2005-04-04 11:05:19.6752 Trying to open protocol stream for http://www.mrtickle.org/dyn/RadioStations.txt? 2005-04-04 11:05:19.6754 Looking for handler for protocol http 2005-04-04 11:05:19.6755 Found handler for protocol http 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7709 Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Player::Source::playmode (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 880) frame 1: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/Alien/Plugin.pm line 387) frame 2: Plugins::Alien::Plugin::__ANON__ (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 616) frame 3: Slim::Hardware::IR::executeButton (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Control/Command.pm line 589) frame 4: Slim::Control::Command::execute (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 640) frame 5: Slim::Hardware::IR::processCode (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 499) frame 6: Slim::Hardware::IR::releaseCode (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Hardware/IR.pm line 394) frame 7: Slim::Hardware::IR::checkRelease (/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Utils/Timers.pm line 62) frame 8: Slim::Utils::Timers::checkTimers (/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl line 611) frame 9: main::idle (/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl line 549) frame 10: main::main (/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl line ) 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7712 00:04:20:05:5b:58: Switching to mode stop from stop 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7713 Already in playmode stop : ignoring mode change 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7715 Adding song index 0 to song queue 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7715 Clearing out song queue first 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7716 Song queue is now 0 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7789 Trying to open protocol stream for rtsp://cool.str3am.com:554/broadcast/kplu.rm 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7791 Looking for handler for protocol rtsp 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7792 Found handler for protocol rtsp 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7795 Adding song index 0 to song queue 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7796 Clearing out song queue first 2005-04-04 11:05:28.7797 Song queue is now 0 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Duplicated Artists (v6.0.1)
* Scott Bennett shaped the electrons to say... I'm on the 4-4 nightly of the 6.0.1 branch, which cleared up the composer / artist mixup. I'm now noticing that a few of the artists are being duplicated in the browse artists list. The first listing contains one album, with all the rest of the albums under the second listing. The tags and folders are all fine. This is on XP using itunes. I don't see a bug created for this yet, but I can do that if the problem isn't just me. Scott - are you using iTunes alone, or with a Music Folder as well? -D -- It's the wrong trousers Gromit, and they've gone wrong! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] export settings / restore settings
> > what platform? XP Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] export settings / restore settings
> > > > > Just an idea that hopefully leads to making installing new > > sever versions > > > easier: it'd be nice to be able to export all settings > > prior to upgrading > > > the server... then be able to restore those settings once > > the new version is > > > in. > > > > > > For me, one reason to avoid nightlies is the prospect of > > resetting all my > > > settings. > > > > Installing a nightly build should not overwrite your prefs > > file. Have you run > > into this at some point? > > > > > Well, I just installed the latest nightly and here's what I > have to do: > > --manually reinstall my old graphics folder for the fonts I like. > --manually reinstall old conf file. > > I don't know what else... > > The point is that it's not terribly convenient and if there > was a way to > make it eaiser that would be good. > Also, not retained: player settings > display> scroll rate player settings > display> scroll pixels ... for all 3 players. Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] export settings / restore settings
Phillip Kerman wrote: Quoting Phillip Kerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Just an idea that hopefully leads to making installing new sever versions easier: it'd be nice to be able to export all settings prior to upgrading the server... then be able to restore those settings once the new version is in. For me, one reason to avoid nightlies is the prospect of resetting all my settings. Installing a nightly build should not overwrite your prefs file. Have you run into this at some point? Well, I just installed the latest nightly and here's what I have to do: --manually reinstall my old graphics folder for the fonts I like. --manually reinstall old conf file. I don't know what else... The point is that it's not terribly convenient and if there was a way to make it eaiser that would be good. Thanks, Phillip what platform? -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Duplicated Artists (v6.0.1)
I'm on the 4-4 nightly of the 6.0.1 branch, which cleared up the composer / artist mixup. I'm now noticing that a few of the artists are being duplicated in the browse artists list. The first listing contains one album, with all the rest of the albums under the second listing. The tags and folders are all fine. This is on XP using itunes. I don't see a bug created for this yet, but I can do that if the problem isn't just me. Also, v6 is getting better and better- good job to everyone involved. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] export settings / restore settings
> Quoting Phillip Kerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Just an idea that hopefully leads to making installing new > sever versions > > easier: it'd be nice to be able to export all settings > prior to upgrading > > the server... then be able to restore those settings once > the new version is > > in. > > > > For me, one reason to avoid nightlies is the prospect of > resetting all my > > settings. > > Installing a nightly build should not overwrite your prefs > file. Have you run > into this at some point? > Well, I just installed the latest nightly and here's what I have to do: --manually reinstall my old graphics folder for the fonts I like. --manually reinstall old conf file. I don't know what else... The point is that it's not terribly convenient and if there was a way to make it eaiser that would be good. Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox2 internals
OK I'm changing the subject. :) There are a total of four board assemblies inside. The first three designed by slim devices, and the wireless card being a standard mini-PCI module. - Main board - CPU module - Display - Wireless Mostly the modularity was driven by performance, mechanical, manufacturing, and time-to-market goals. Not to imply anything, but yes the design inherently lends itself well to upgrading. Dose the removeable CPU card imply potential upgrade cards in the future? http://www.slimdevices.com/photos/inside_squeezebox2/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] SqueezeBox 2, Slimserver 6 and FLAC question
--- Steinar Bjaerum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Josh Coalson wrote: > > > > --- Steinar Bjaerum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To extract a single track from an album-FLAC without complete > > > transcoding, > > > you suggest to re-encode only the first and last frame of the > track > > > on the > > > server before streaming to the client, and stream the other > frames as > > > is. > > > This means that the first frame would be shorter than the other > > > frames. How > > > does that relate to the "FLAC subset" format described at > > > http://flac.sourceforge.net/format.html#subset where it is stated > > > that to be > > > truly streamable the block size should be constant? > > > > it would not technically be 'subset' but the decoder should > > still be able to handle it in this case. however due to a > > bad design decision about the way the sample/frame number is > > stored in the frame header, the decoder after receiving the > > partial frame would not be able to rely on the sample number > > decoded by libFLAC. > > > > the problem is that FLAC either stores the sample number or > > the frame number in the frame header, but not *which* one is > > stored; that has to be inferred from other parameters, and > > sending a shortened frame first breaks the inference model. > > if I ever get to updating the format that will be one of > > the first things I fix. for now, if seeking is all handled > > on the server side by converting generic seek instructions > > from the client to libFLAC seek calls on the server, which > > serves back a valid FLAC stream, then the client probably > > doesn't pay attention to the sample number returned from > > the libFLAC decoder anyway, it just gets decoded samples and > > plays them. hopefully soon I'll have a better understanding > > of the protocol. > > > So a decoder which has as only task to sequentially decode the frames > as > they appear in the FLAC stream will be able to handle the > variable-sized > input frames. From the frame headers the decoder can extract the > (variable) > sizes of the frames and decode them properly. I guess problems can > occur if > the decoder relies on the size of the first frame to allocate buffers > etc. > The discrepancies in the sample/block number in the frame headers > will not > be a problem as long as the decoder will not perform searches in the > stream. > Am I correct? yes, all correct. > > > I am not at all an expert on this, just an idea: Do you consider > > > functionality for sample-accurate extraction of a track from a > > > CUE-embedded > > > FLAC to a separate standalone format compliant FLAC stream to be > > > generic > > > enough to be added to libFLAC? I know this can be easily done by > > > using the > > > index points to decode and then encode (as is currently done in > > > SlimServer). > > > I'm thinking about a more efficient method that could take > advantage > > > of the > > > fact that both the input and output is FLAC. > > > > hmm, maybe a frame-cutting interface would do the job. I've > > thought about that in order to facilitate a FLAC-splitting > > tool but have balked so far because of this design problem in > > FLAC framing above. > > > Assuming the track is to be extracted to a separate file, not > necessarily > intended for streaming. Would it work to modify the STREAMINFO header > properly, i.e. indicate variable sized blocks etc, then reencode the > first > and last frames to get correct track start and stop, and finally > modify the > headers of the frames in the middle with the correct sample numbers? > If done properly, will such a solution result in a file compliant > with the > FLAC format? almost; in addition, for every frame you will have to get the encoder to store the blocksize in the header (blocksize bits = 0110 or 0111, c.f. http://flac.sourceforge.net/format.html#frame_header) to get the variable-blocksize logic to kick in, which the current libFLAC does not do because it is currently designed for fixed-blocksize. it uses blocksize bits 0001-0101/1000- whenever possible (using only blocksize bits 0110/0111 for the last frame in a stream, or for --lax streams when the blocksize cannot be represented by blocksize bits 0001-0101/1000-). I really regret storing frame numbers in the frame header instead of just sample numbers but at the time I was trying to shave off bits everywhere. > I know that the CRCs have to be recalculated because of the modified > headers, but the actual FLAC encoding could be kept unchanged for all > the > blocks except the first and last. What gain in efficiency can be > expected > with such a solution compared to a compete re-encoding of the track? it will be faster but maybe not enough to be worth it. if speed is of the essence, 90% of the compression can be had with flac -0 or flac -1 which encodes at 9-10x realtime on a PII 300MHz. Josh __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals -
RE: [slim] Re: something funny
Forget my last mail - looks like it's fixed in that latest nightly. Installed it, wiped cache, and library back to normal again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Goodinson Sent: 04 April 2005 18:14 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: RE: [slim] Re: something funny I'm seeing the same thing here, when using 6.0.0 on Win2k. I've never used the nightlies before, although "RPM" sounds to be a Linux package. Dan: can you tell me whether this is also fix in the Windows nightly? Cheers, Dan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Coates Sent: 04 April 2005 03:12 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Re: something funny Dan Sully wrote: > * Jack Coates shaped the electrons to say... > >> So I wiped database again, and got it again. >> >> The slimserver.db is at >> http://www.monkeynoodle.org/tmp/slimserver.db.bz2. I then deleted the >> db entirely, restarted and let it rebuild that way... result is fine. >> >> I suspect that it was the restart which really cleaned things up, >> seems like there's a problem with in-memory caching. This is 6.0.0. > > > Jack - I recently put in some changes to the Wipe DB code which I > believe clear this up. Could you try the latest nightly and see if you > run into it again? > > Thanks. > > -D got around to building a quick-n-dirty RPM of the nightly and installed it. Database is oll korrect and picked up recent changes. Played a song, then hit wipe cache. result looks fine. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.0 Does not run on My Mac - Help please!!
* Adrian Merwood shaped the electrons to say... I have run almost every version of SlimServer without a hitch on my Mac. 5.4.1 was running fine but I decided to upgrade to 6.0 did the install and since then the server will not start from the Preferences Pane. Running slimserver.pl from the command line I get lots of errors: mkdir /Users/adrian/Music/Playlists: File exists at Alternatively - is that location a file, instead of a directory? -D -- all your base class are belong to us ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.0 Does not run on My Mac - Help please!!
* Adrian Merwood shaped the electrons to say... I have run almost every version of SlimServer without a hitch on my Mac. 5.4.1 was running fine but I decided to upgrade to 6.0 did the install and since then the server will not start from the Preferences Pane. Running slimserver.pl from the command line I get lots of errors: mkdir /Users/adrian/Music/Playlists: File exists at Do you have write permission to this folder? -D -- all your base class are belong to us ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get it working on Suse or RH 7.2?
* Adrian Merwood shaped the electrons to say... I get exactly the same error on my Mac OS setup.any resolution yet??? Please be more specific - which error are you referring to? Thanks. -D -- all your base class are belong to us ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 6.0 Does not run on My Mac - Help please!!
Hi, I have run almost every version of SlimServer without a hitch on my Mac. 5.4.1 was running fine but I decided to upgrade to 6.0 did the install and since then the server will not start from the Preferences Pane. Running slimserver.pl from the command line I get lots of errors: mkdir /Users/adrian/Music/Playlists: File exists at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Utils/Prefs.pm line 102 Compilation failed in require at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Buttons/Plugins.pm line 20. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Buttons/Plugins.pm line 20. Compilation failed in require at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm line 15. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm line 15. Compilation failed in require at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Buttons/Settings.pm line 11. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Buttons/Settings.pm line 11. Compilation failed in require at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Display/Display.pm line 14. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Display/Display.pm line 14. Compilation failed in require at ./slimserver.pl line 205. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./slimserver.pl line 205. Can anyone help? Adrian ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get it working on Suse or RH 7.2?
I get exactly the same error on my Mac OS setup.any resolution yet??? Adrian ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: something funny
I'm seeing the same thing here, when using 6.0.0 on Win2k. I've never used the nightlies before, although "RPM" sounds to be a Linux package. Dan: can you tell me whether this is also fix in the Windows nightly? Cheers, Dan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Coates Sent: 04 April 2005 03:12 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Re: something funny Dan Sully wrote: > * Jack Coates shaped the electrons to say... > >> So I wiped database again, and got it again. >> >> The slimserver.db is at >> http://www.monkeynoodle.org/tmp/slimserver.db.bz2. I then deleted the >> db entirely, restarted and let it rebuild that way... result is fine. >> >> I suspect that it was the restart which really cleaned things up, >> seems like there's a problem with in-memory caching. This is 6.0.0. > > > Jack - I recently put in some changes to the Wipe DB code which I > believe clear this up. Could you try the latest nightly and see if you > run into it again? > > Thanks. > > -D got around to building a quick-n-dirty RPM of the nightly and installed it. Database is oll korrect and picked up recent changes. Played a song, then hit wipe cache. result looks fine. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New SoftSqueeze Issue with 02-05 Nightlies
And the answer is "Java Buffer Sound Underun" To remind you: - MP3 files - Slimserver 6.0.1 - SoftSqueeze 2b3 - Java 1.5 -- Neil "Richard Titmuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Neil Cameron wrote: > >>I'll try it tonight; which debug options do you want me to turn on? >> >>It was MP3s... >> >> > I don't think you'll need to turn on a debug option, I think you'll just > get an error in the console anyway. > > Richard ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.0 exits after clicking player settings for non-SB
Quoting Cormac Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Folks, >I found the following just now when trying to use XMMS to connect my > server (Linux FC3 running 6.0).. it would connect, even play audio.. but > when I tried to click the "player settings for.." link the server would > crash/exit leaving the following in /tmp/slimserver.log.. > > Can't locate object method "playingModeOptions" via package > "Slim::Player::HTTP" at /usr/local/slimserver//Slim/Web/Setup.pm line > 157. > > Anyway I sorted it with an upgrade to the latest nightly which adds an > IF to check that the client is actually a player (SB) before accessing > the offending property... > > just thought I'd post this in case anyone else sees the same behaviour. Thanks for the report. Once you try the nightly, you sould have no more problems with this one. It was reported shortly after the release, and has since been fixed. This issue affected any clients connecting using the stream.mp3 url and is fixed in both the 6.1 and 6.0.1 nightly builds. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] export settings / restore settings
Quoting Phillip Kerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just an idea that hopefully leads to making installing new sever versions > easier: it'd be nice to be able to export all settings prior to upgrading > the server... then be able to restore those settings once the new version is > in. > > For me, one reason to avoid nightlies is the prospect of resetting all my > settings. Installing a nightly build should not overwrite your prefs file. Have you run into this at some point? All settings are stored in slimserver.pref (or /etc/slimserver.conf for rpm installs). To 'export' settings, simply copy this file to another location. Ot restore, simply copy the older file over another while the server is not running. There is also a command-line option (--prefsfile) which can use a specific prefs file at runtime. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] export settings / restore settings
Maybe I've missed something, but I've just been installing the nightlies over the previous (Windows) installation. As far as I can tell, most or all of the configuration settings are retained. - Original Message - From: "Phillip Kerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Slim Devices Discussion'" Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: [slim] export settings / restore settings Just an idea that hopefully leads to making installing new sever versions easier: it'd be nice to be able to export all settings prior to upgrading the server... then be able to restore those settings once the new version is in. For me, one reason to avoid nightlies is the prospect of resetting all my settings. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] itunes new music not picked up by slimserver
Quoting Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I've added some new albums to my itunes this weekend and these are all > working and displayed from within itunes however slimserver isn't > picking them up. Is this the same as the "missing files" problem that > people have reported? > > I'm running the 3/3/05 latest nightly on Win2003. This is connected to > a SliMP3 and a softsqueeze PC. > > I've tried restarting the PC, confirming itunes is actually enabled, > forcing a rescan and deleteting and recreating the slimserver > database. This files don't appear in the browse artists list or new > music. > > I did have it set to automaticall detect the itunes XML file but have > now forced it with an XML location and location of itunes music. > > still nothing > > any ideas you might want to confirm that the XML file you have now set slimserver to look for, is really the one that is being changed by iTunes. If you have erased the db, or wiped cache then you should be importing fresh from itunes XML. You can also look at d_itunes and d_info log output to see if the files are being added, then removed (which is one symptom of the reported missing files problem, reported as bug1226). I bleieve there has been reported success with the latest nightly build's as far as that bug report, however. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] export settings / restore settings
Just an idea that hopefully leads to making installing new sever versions easier: it'd be nice to be able to export all settings prior to upgrading the server... then be able to restore those settings once the new version is in. For me, one reason to avoid nightlies is the prospect of resetting all my settings. Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing
> I've worked with and sold much buggier products than this > one, lighten > up folks. You're getting what you paid for and a lot more. > Bugs are part > of the territory. First, I don't I agree with this statement. The general acceptance people have for buggy software has serious long-term costs to productivity. I do think I'm getting what I paid for because Slim stands behind the product and constantly fixes issues that arise. The second thing I disagree with, however, is that people complaining need to lighten up. In fact, the complaints are helpful. If everyone just returned their units this wouldn't help anything. At least my complaints are intended to get closer to a better product. Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to do correct upgrade of Slimserver under Linux
Quoting Juergen Hornung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I'm running Slimserver V 6.0 under Debian Linux. > > For installation I download the slimserver.tar.gz file, untar it into > /usr/local/slimserver/ > > The configuration file is at /etc/slimserver.pref and the database > is in my home. > > So far so good, the system runs great. good to know :) > > Every time I made an upgrade to a new version I'm wondering about > doing it the correct way: > > Have I to delete the configuration unter /etc/slimserver.pref and > delete the databse? you shouldn't have to. > > Or is the new version of slimserver "intelligent enough" to change the > slimserver.pref and convert the database to the new format if necessary? > every effort is made to ensure that releases handle upgrade issues when it comes to pref files and the database. Database upgrades come as part of the SQL directory, and the server will run those upgrades when it detects an older version number in the db. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Better forum please!
Yes, you're right but I don't want to have all the mail in my private mailbox where it would drown my other, more important, mail. When using Gmail the, btw great amount of postings, are nice kept on other servers than my own, been backed-up and available for a very long time. So why not. On Apr 4, 2005 6:09 PM, Markus Stamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karel Tromp said the following: > > >I had got a tip over registering and getting an email account from > >Google's Gmail. > >The account bundles email in conversation/topic so it look more/less as a > >forum. > >It works for me. > > > > > You don't need GMail for that. > > Outlook Express can do this (although not too well), Thunderbird can do > it too (better than OE). > > Markus > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Re: Re: Feature Request: Completely random play
Quoting Dan Sully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > * Steve shaped the electrons to say... > > >I've found that as soon as I enable the MusicMagic API on my PC and > >then start MusicMagic, my cpu load jumps to 100%. I left this all over > >the weekend thinking it was probably analysing music but it's still > >like it now. > > > >Anyone else seen this? It makes the slimserver really sluggish. > > What does MusicMagic say? It should tell you if it's finished analyzing your > music. Check the "about box" for more information. > When first installed, musicmagic can take, literally, a week or more to fully analyse your music. During this time, the server will detect the library as having changed and re-run the musicmagic import (to get the latest of the active music details). The default scan interval is 60 seconds (which works well after analysis si complete), but you may want to set that to a much higher value if immediate reaction to changes is not what you want. Try going into server settings->musicmagic (once enabled) and set the scan interval to something much higher (3600 for an hour, for eg) -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 6.0 exits after clicking player settings for non-SB
Folks, I found the following just now when trying to use XMMS to connect my server (Linux FC3 running 6.0).. it would connect, even play audio.. but when I tried to click the "player settings for.." link the server would crash/exit leaving the following in /tmp/slimserver.log.. Can't locate object method "playingModeOptions" via package "Slim::Player::HTTP" at /usr/local/slimserver//Slim/Web/Setup.pm line 157. Anyway I sorted it with an upgrade to the latest nightly which adds an IF to check that the client is actually a player (SB) before accessing the offending property... just thought I'd post this in case anyone else sees the same behaviour. -- Regards, Cormac ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing
Jack I don't doubt that it's a major project to move away from Perl, but IME of troubleshooting development projects, sometimes you do have to take a step backwards to go further forwards. (I don't know enough to suggest that that's the case here, I hasten to add). I take your point about the overkill of today's hardware, but that's exactly what's produced all that large, slow, resource hungry un-managable code out there isn't it? Lean & Mean (TM), I say ;-) The thing is, I'm running a XP on a 2.5G P4 with 256M RAM (not enough I know), with a test db of less that 400 songs and Slimserver with Softsqueeze frequently pauses playing if I pull up a page on the web. The HTML interface and the fishbone skin in particular is really excellent, but the refresh is painfully slow and bit clunky. My concern is that if the average 'joe' tests out slimserver on his windows computer before buying a Squeezebox, and gets the same results, he probably won't bother - and that would be a real shame. To me it just seems a bit counter-productive to be adding new features on top, if the basic code isn't fast and clean. I can put up with a few bugs, but the music has to keep playing! Anyway, I think my SB2 might arrive tomorrow; I'm really looking forward to it and I know just how hard everyone at slim devices has worked to get it (and the software to run it) to me. So thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Coates Sent: 04 April 2005 16:45 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing Patrick Dixon wrote: > A couple of things do worry me though, and they are probably a result of my > unfamilirity with Perl and the open-source community. I wonder whether the > choice of Perl is now causing many of the 'resource hogging' problems that > seem to be at the root of many of the complaints. As the size and complexity > of the code has increased, is the overhead of an interpreted language just > too much? The other thing that worries me is the structure and documentation > of the code itself. I know (again from personal experience) that when the > pressure's on, dotting 'i's and crossing 't's is the first thing to go, and > (to me) Perl looks very terse and unstuctured anyway. That can't make it > easy to develop and maintain. > Nah. Remember what incredible overkill today's system is, and remember that all three target OS's are pretty good at multi-tasking. The CPU/RAM overhead of interpreted language is absolutely nothing. One thing to realize is that rewriting the source code, test suite, and build environment from the ground up in cross-platform code written in a low-level compiled language is a big project. Like, hire three engineers, buy a couple of servers and estimate 12-18 months from start to the present level of stability. You think switching meta-data storage backends destabilized the system? Ha. Then add in the joy of low-level memory management and security holes galore because the low-level compiled language expects the programmer to take care of all that. Cross-platform interpreted languages are a Good Thing(TM). Perl is a good thing. More importantly, ditching everything and rebuilding from scratch is a Bad Thing(TM). I've worked with and sold much buggier products than this one, lighten up folks. You're getting what you paid for and a lot more. Bugs are part of the territory. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] compiling perl [was: "EMPTY" when browsing
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:06 +0100, Steven Moore wrote: > Now this may be a stupid question so feel free to shout at me. > If Perl is an interpreted language is there anyway that it the server > software could be compiled for each platform for increased performance? any way at all? sure. But it is unlikely to yield the performance bump you would hope for even if it was easy. It is more cost effective to just upgrade the computer. First, being interpreted does not mean "slower than compiled" as many modern languages are interpreted and then optimized. Second, you can't optimize performance without looking at what is slow. The SlimServer doesn't do a lot of complex calculations, it mostly reads files and pushes out the bytes. And it deals with generating and displaying HTML and getting responses from the user. Any time you go to the disk, main processing performance ceases to be an issue. Similarly, any time you talk to the ethernet, main CPU is not the gating factor. More importantly, any time you talk to a human, the computer has nothing to do for nearly forever. Third, a fair amount of the SlimServer performance "issues" are due to the code's monolithic structure. To solve these, the code will have to be refactored, which is a bigger development effort than even the 6.* release. The developers are talking about this, but it will be big and painful, probably no sooner than version 7.* I ran my slimserver 5.* on a P2 500 for several years without problems. I replaced it with a 2800+ just because today, the 2800+ is about as cheap and slow as you can get. With Moore's law, new processors get cheaper and faster much more easily than refactoring software. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] "now playing" showing what just played last
On Apr 2, 2005 3:08 PM, Neil Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me too. -- > Neil I'm now not sure i'm getting this with the standard 'now playing' screensaver after all but i'm defininitely getting erratic behaiviour from musicinfo.scr despite having upgraded to the version for 6.0 i'll try killiing the slimserver process and restarting to ensure i'm not still running the old plugin somhow. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Better forum please!
Karel Tromp said the following: I had got a tip over registering and getting an email account from Google's Gmail. The account bundles email in conversation/topic so it look more/less as a forum. It works for me. You don't need GMail for that. Outlook Express can do this (although not too well), Thunderbird can do it too (better than OE). Markus ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Re: Re: Feature Request: Completely random play
* Steve shaped the electrons to say... I've found that as soon as I enable the MusicMagic API on my PC and then start MusicMagic, my cpu load jumps to 100%. I left this all over the weekend thinking it was probably analysing music but it's still like it now. Anyone else seen this? It makes the slimserver really sluggish. What does MusicMagic say? It should tell you if it's finished analyzing your music. Check the "about box" for more information. -D -- does whistling in the dark make me go blind faster? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing
Steven Moore wrote: ... Now this may be a stupid question so feel free to shout at me. If Perl is an interpreted language is there anyway that it the server software could be compiled for each platform for increased performance? Steven Moore ... "there are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots" :) Sorry, couldn't help it. Anyway, no. There are some products out there that claim to compile Perl, but most are probably doing the same embedded-interpreter trick that Slim already does in the Win32 executable. Besides, thouse products usually require licensing that is incompatible with open-sourcing and giving away the server. It's highly questionable whether performance would even improve... IMHO, the bottleneck at this point is single-threading, not interpretation. Of course, if someone around here knows C++ and wants to prove me wrong, I'm all ears :) This guy (http://lists.slimdevices.com/archives/developers/2004-September/010419.html) might have some tips for you. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Better forum please!
--- Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, that was about the most unhelpfull comment you possibly > could have > made. For folks who are only used to using web forums an > email list is a > very confusing and odd thing to use, especially since the I thought it was kind of funny myself. The messages may not be threaded but they have subject lines. I'm not sure about everyone else but when I read an e-mail and want to reply my first inclination is to click the "Reply" button. I'm not saying the list format is better or worse than a forum format, I'm just saying that for those in favor of a forum to try and build their case based on the premise that the list format is too complicated for the average user is just silly. If you've got the skill to navigate Slim Devices website and sign up for the list and you know how to check, send and respond to e-mails then you've got the skill to be a part of the list. For it to take two hours for someone who implies that they are an above average user to figure out how the list works means that they weren't trying very hard or took a lunch break and maybe even caught a movie during that two hours. Just $.02 from a below average user. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Better forum please!
- Original Message - From: "PAUL WILLIAMSON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 7:58 AM Subject: RE: [slim] Better forum please! That was kind of my point. The average user shouldn't be on this list - they should be dealing with support directly. Is that what Slim Devices really wants? Or maybe they just don't know any better than to put up a _peer_ support forum where the "average" user can seek help without bothering the obviously very thin staff. I dunno, maybe it's the thousands of other such product forums that have been created elsewhere that make me think one would be useful. This list is such a catch-all for debugging conversations, problems from newbies, customer rants, direct support enquiries, and random questions, that it's become unfocused and nearly unusable. Too much traffic on too many different, unrelated topics. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Better forum please!
* Karel Tromp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050404 01:18]: > I had got a tip over registering and getting an email account from > Google's Gmail. The account bundles email in conversation/topic so it > look more/less as a forum. It works for me. To this end, if anyone wants a gmail invite, you can easily obtain one from http://isnoop.net/gmail/ ... or if that doesn't work for you, email me off this list for one as I have plenty. I also use a mail client that gathers and threads conversations. It's the only way to fly on a mailing list. This works fine, with exception for _those_of_you_ who use broken clients that don't use the In-Reply-To: header. There are only a few of you, but still, gr... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing
Patrick Dixon wrote: A couple of things do worry me though, and they are probably a result of my unfamilirity with Perl and the open-source community. I wonder whether the choice of Perl is now causing many of the 'resource hogging' problems that seem to be at the root of many of the complaints. As the size and complexity of the code has increased, is the overhead of an interpreted language just too much? The other thing that worries me is the structure and documentation of the code itself. I know (again from personal experience) that when the pressure's on, dotting 'i's and crossing 't's is the first thing to go, and (to me) Perl looks very terse and unstuctured anyway. That can't make it easy to develop and maintain. Nah. Remember what incredible overkill today's system is, and remember that all three target OS's are pretty good at multi-tasking. The CPU/RAM overhead of interpreted language is absolutely nothing. One thing to realize is that rewriting the source code, test suite, and build environment from the ground up in cross-platform code written in a low-level compiled language is a big project. Like, hire three engineers, buy a couple of servers and estimate 12-18 months from start to the present level of stability. You think switching meta-data storage backends destabilized the system? Ha. Then add in the joy of low-level memory management and security holes galore because the low-level compiled language expects the programmer to take care of all that. Cross-platform interpreted languages are a Good Thing(TM). Perl is a good thing. More importantly, ditching everything and rebuilding from scratch is a Bad Thing(TM). I've worked with and sold much buggier products than this one, lighten up folks. You're getting what you paid for and a lot more. Bugs are part of the territory. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture... Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] AlienBBC for Win2K
On 4/4/05 at 2:12 pm +0100, Dan Goodinson wrote John, This sounds kind of similar to the problem I had the other day. When I first set up AlienBBC, it would either say "connecting" and then not get anywhere, or it would connect for a couple of seconds, then would stop, then play a couple more seconds, then stop again. It sounds like maybe you are somewhere between these 2 extremes - e.g. connecting - thinking the connection has dropped, then connecting again etc. What fixed it for me was a couple of things. Firstly, I didn't unzip the codecs to the right place. Or, more to the point, I unzipped them to the correct location but didn't realise they when I unzipped them they actually created a new folder beneath the "codecs" folder. Check in the codecs folder - there should be a bunch of files, but no subdirectories. If that's all ok, then try installing LAME and setting some bandwidth limiting. Unzip LAME to the same folder as mplayer (e.g. \Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread) - I chose NOT to overwrite the file called "LICENCE". Then restart SS, and it should not pick up the fact that you have LAME and you should be able to set a limit (Player Settings>Audio). In fact, I've now got mine set to "no limit" but it seems that this doesn't matter so long as LAME can actually convert to MP3 for me. While testing, it is also worth checking if mplayer can play a stream properly. I had a very similar problem, but I use a Mac, and the solution looks to me (if mplayer is working) as if it must be different from what you need. -- Daniel Cohen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing
kdf wrote: Personally, I've become sickened by the negative attitudes here. I can understand this attitude, I really can. It's really frustrating to work hard on something and hear nothing but complaints. The most rewarding experience I've ever had in 18 years in the software industry was working at a company called Innosoft International. We'd go to trade shows and customers would actually come up and tell us how wonderful our software was because it just worked. That was great because it is _so_ rare. People typically react to stuff that's broken rather than stuff that works, with the reaction being based on expectation level. Slim Devices occupies an interesting intersection of computer hardware/software and consumer home electronics, two markets with very different expectation levels. Consumers expect home electronics to just work; the expectation level is very high. OTOH, the expectation level for computer software is very low, with consumers tolerating a rather ridiculous number of bugs, security holes, and horrific UI's I've got a wireless SB1 (non-graphic) running with the 5.4 server. It works pretty well, although it suffers from the occasional dropout. I'm not one of those who has been testing 6.0. Hats off to those who have, because end-user testing is clearly the way that this software gets better. Since I'm not testing I'm not griping...I'm just going to wait for 6.1 to come along before I upgrade. To close on a positive note, let me say that listening to music with the Squeezebox is a quantum improvement over listening to CD's. I find myself listening to music I forgot I had, and putting together hours-long playlists for get togethers is wonderful. Props to the volunteers in the user community who have helped make this happen. - Jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: Perl 5.8 on SME6 [was Re: [slim] Re: Re: Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get it working onSuse orRH 7.2?]
Ok, deleted the link and the server is running as before. With the message, but running :-) Stefan Michael Herger schrieb: Stefan [..] I have the shoutcast plugin enabled, because I use this sometimes. I have seen, that this is included. I have disabled the shoutcast plugin and restarted the server but the message appears again. I get this message: The following modules failed to load: XML::Parser One idea: could you go to SlimServer's CPAN/arch/5.8 folder and do ln -s i386-linux-thread-multi i386-linux Then restart the slimserver. Does it still complain about XML::Parser? To download and compile them, please run: /usr/local/slimserver/Bin/build-perl-modules.pl Best Regards Stefan Michael Herger schrieb: Hi Stephan you are the best. I seriously doubt this :-). But I'm still glad it worked for you. You're the guy running eisfair, aren't you? This is intersting to know. So there are at least two distributions which might work. I have downloaded your tarball and followed your instructions. The slimserver v6 ist now running very well on my system. Thanks for your work. This should be an official download from the slimdevices website, to help out users like me. I have only one error message during the startup of slimserver. He is telling me that XML::Parser is not installed. This seems to be no problem, because everything is working for me so far. This is strange as it is included with SlimServer (/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/XML). Do you use the ShoutcastBrowser plugin? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: Perl 5.8 on SME6 [was Re: [slim] Re: Re: Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get it working onSuse orRH 7.2?]
Hi Micheal If done what you mentioned. But now I get this error message /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.6: relocation error: /usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/arch/5.8/i386-linux/auto/Time/HiRes/HiRes.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr The server is not starting anymore. It was definitly better before. How can I go back?? Stefan Michael Herger schrieb: Stefan [..] I have the shoutcast plugin enabled, because I use this sometimes. I have seen, that this is included. I have disabled the shoutcast plugin and restarted the server but the message appears again. I get this message: The following modules failed to load: XML::Parser One idea: could you go to SlimServer's CPAN/arch/5.8 folder and do ln -s i386-linux-thread-multi i386-linux Then restart the slimserver. Does it still complain about XML::Parser? To download and compile them, please run: /usr/local/slimserver/Bin/build-perl-modules.pl Best Regards Stefan Michael Herger schrieb: Hi Stephan you are the best. I seriously doubt this :-). But I'm still glad it worked for you. You're the guy running eisfair, aren't you? This is intersting to know. So there are at least two distributions which might work. I have downloaded your tarball and followed your instructions. The slimserver v6 ist now running very well on my system. Thanks for your work. This should be an official download from the slimdevices website, to help out users like me. I have only one error message during the startup of slimserver. He is telling me that XML::Parser is not installed. This seems to be no problem, because everything is working for me so far. This is strange as it is included with SlimServer (/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/XML). Do you use the ShoutcastBrowser plugin? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing
On 4 Apr 2005, at 9:21 am, Patrick Dixon wrote: I don't actually think the majority here are 'negative' (but I do think Phillip Kerman made some very good points). Personally I'm very happy to test and help get the bugs out in the interests of making a better product, but I'm never quite sure if my unfamiliarily with Perl, Java and Linux is a help or a hinderance in that process! (I do figure that if I have a problem with a Windows version, then probably the 'average' user will too - so that's got to be useful). I also understand (from personal experience) the problems of software and hardware product development, and the pressures on small companies in a competitive marketplace. A couple of things do worry me though, and they are probably a result of my unfamilirity with Perl and the open-source community. I wonder whether the choice of Perl is now causing many of the 'resource hogging' problems that seem to be at the root of many of the complaints. As the size and complexity of the code has increased, is the overhead of an interpreted language just too much? The other thing that worries me is the structure and Now this may be a stupid question so feel free to shout at me. If Perl is an interpreted language is there anyway that it the server software could be compiled for each platform for increased performance? Steven Moore documentation of the code itself. I know (again from personal experience) that when the pressure's on, dotting 'i's and crossing 't's is the first thing to go, and (to me) Perl looks very terse and unstuctured anyway. That can't make it easy to develop and maintain. Forgive me if I'm speaking out of turn, but I do appreciate the effort that's being put in, and I hope I am helping rather than hindering that effort. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of kdf Sent: 04 April 2005 08:10 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] re: "EMPTY" when browsing Quoting Michael Bowyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Please try the latest nightly - either 6.0.1 or 6.1 - this should be fixed there. -D I've patiently waited weeks for the new version 6. Not even a week after its release and we're back to 'try the latest nightly'. Excellent! so don't use it. go back and join the crowd who refuse to test. your other option is to wait months until someone else with a more constructive frame of mind takes the time to test and it gets fixed. Personally, I've become sickened by the negative attitudes here. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: Perl 5.8 on SME6 [was Re: [slim] Re: Re: Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get it working onSuse orRH 7.2?]
Hi Micheal, it was a try for me and I was surprised that it worked. I want to let you know about it. The server works, even though I get the message about xml::parser. the eisfair documentation only says that it it is based on glibc 2.2 and kernel 2.4.x. I really don't know, if it is build from scratch or not. I'm very happy with it now. Stefan Michael Herger schrieb: On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 12:37:56 +0200, Stefan Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Michael, Yes, I'm the the guy with the eisfair system. :-) I wrote "SME6" and the first to give it a try is using something completely different... You must be a brave guy. Or rather desperate :-). Do you know whether eisfair is based on another distribution (as is SME) or has it been build from scratch? I have the shoutcast plugin enabled, because I use this sometimes. I Does it still work, even though slimserver complains about XML::Parser? Michael have seen, that this is included. I have disabled the shoutcast plugin and restarted the server but the message appears again. I get this message: The following modules failed to load: XML::Parser To download and compile them, please run: /usr/local/slimserver/Bin/build-perl-modules.pl Best Regards Stefan Michael Herger schrieb: Hi Stephan you are the best. I seriously doubt this :-). But I'm still glad it worked for you. You're the guy running eisfair, aren't you? This is intersting to know. So there are at least two distributions which might work. I have downloaded your tarball and followed your instructions. The slimserver v6 ist now running very well on my system. Thanks for your work. This should be an official download from the slimdevices website, to help out users like me. I have only one error message during the startup of slimserver. He is telling me that XML::Parser is not installed. This seems to be no problem, because everything is working for me so far. This is strange as it is included with SlimServer (/usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/XML). Do you use the ShoutcastBrowser plugin? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
