[slim] Re: SB2: Fast forward with FLAC?

[Yannzola]

kdf Wrote: 
> 
> The way the bookmark plugin stores the time index would be
> prohibitive 
> to store track by track.  If the desire was to mark a start and stop 
> for just the current track, and loop it (for something like learning a
> 
> phrase of a guitar solo), the scanner plugin might not need too much 
> work.  however, I'm given the impression that this is not what that bug
> 
> is after, nor does it seem like a plugin would be accepted as a 
> solution.
> 
> -kdf
Hm OK. 
In the comments area of that bug, Dean mentions CUE sheets as a
possible solution. How about a plugin (or whatever) that writes (or
rewrites if one is already present ) a CUE sheet on the fly with a
modified start and/or end time for the selected track(s)? SQ UI wise,
you would simply enter the new start and/or end times using the
keypad... the web interface could be fancier.

y.


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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

[radish]

If you can supply one of the files which isn't working for you, I'm sure
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Re: [slim] Re: SB2: Fast forward with FLAC?

[kdf]

On 27-Jul-05, at 5:34 PM, Yannzola wrote:


I still don't quite grok this plugin (haven't installed it yet). It
allows you to create "bookmarks" inside of a song and to jump from one
point to the other, right?


the Bookmark plugin is a way to save the current track with its current 
time index intact.  Mainly, this is for long audio books that you may 
not play all in one sitting.


The Song Scanner plugin uses the BAR type input feedback, splitting the 
current song into 100 parts so that you can have a very obvious UI 
while you skip forward or backward to the specific place you want to 
jump to in the playback.



Very cool. Now... if only you could save these
"bookmarked" start/stop times on a track by track basis, you'd have a 
very

clever solution to Bug#731
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731) while leveraging the
existing UI.

 The way the bookmark plugin stores the time index would be prohibitive 
to store track by track.  If the desire was to mark a start and stop 
for just the current track, and loop it (for something like learning a 
phrase of a guitar solo), the scanner plugin might not need too much 
work.  however, I'm given the impression that this is not what that bug 
is after, nor does it seem like a plugin would be accepted as a 
solution.


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[slim] Re: Q on 6.1.1

[mkozlows]

Old Guy Wrote: 
> 
> 
> 3. Title display now shows file name with .flac extention.  Rephrase ->
> From display via remote, choose "Browse Music Folder" and browse, then
> it seems that it is just showing what are in the folders including file
> names and file extention. This was not like that before, I remember.
> 

This is intentional.  They made Browse Music Folder really hideous in
order to make it really fast.  It is faster, but since it's also
unusable to me now, I've had a net performance decrease, since I have
to go through other browsing methods, which are slower than Browse
Music Folder used to be.


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[slim] Re: SB2: Fast forward with FLAC?

[Yannzola]

kdf Wrote: 
> 
> pressing FWD or REW skips tracks.
> press-and-hold goes into scan mode, 2X 4X 8X etc.
> play, pause, or stop get you out of scanning mode.
> pressing the FWD/REW for teh opposite direction of the curent scanning
> also
> breaks out of scanning mode.
> 

Ah. Yes. User error it is.
This was probably all in the users manual, eh?... which in all the
excitment... I ... uh... haven't actually looked at yet. 

The above functions =seem= intuitive enough, yet I was stumped.

kdf Wrote: 
> 
> The above functions should be working with FLAC files for the SB2, and
> mp3/wav
> for any Squeezebox
> 

I wonder if I somehow missed it, or if I've run into some sort of bug
on my end. I'll look into it tonight.


There is no feature to hold scan until release.

No prob. 

kdf Wrote: 

If you have your now playing display set to show the time index or
progress bar,
then that also updates according to the scan speed.

Aha! I'll give this a try... I think the lack visual feedback  may have
confused me.
kdf Wrote: 

if you want to navigate using a bar to a specific time index, then
there is the
Song Scanner Plugin.

I still don't quite grok this plugin (haven't installed it yet). It
allows you to create "bookmarks" inside of a song and to jump from one
point to the other, right? Very cool. Now... if only you could save these
"bookmarked" start/stop times on a track by track basis, you'd have a very
clever solution to Bug#731
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731) while leveraging the
existing UI.

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[slim] Re: Digital Coax cables

[smc62]

seanadams Wrote: 
> Video cable meets the spec. I'd actually trust a video cable before a
> "digital" cable, since it's harder to pass off a crappy video cable...

Thanks Sean.  I should have searched the forums before asking, I see
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Re: [slim] Re: SB2: Fast forward with FLAC?

[kdf]

Quoting Yannzola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> I figured this was some sort of bug, but hadn't gotten around to
> bitching about it yet.
>
> Could someone please explain this to me? Regardless of how long I press
> the FFwd/RW buttons while a (natively decoded) FLAC  is playing, it
> always jumps to the next track. "Standard" behaviour is for a short tap
> to track across titles, and a prolonged hold to track inside the song...
> with play resuming once the button is lifted. In addition, some kind of
> progress bar + time stamp would come in handy.
>
> Am I wrong? Does this feature indeed already exist? If so... uh... how
> do I get it to work?

pressing FWD or REW skips tracks.
press-and-hold goes into scan mode, 2X 4X 8X etc.
play, pause, or stop get you out of scanning mode.
pressing the FWD/REW for teh opposite direction of the curent scanning also
breaks out of scanning mode.

The above functions should be working with FLAC files for the SB2, and mp3/wav
for any Squeezebox

There is no feature to hold scan until release.

If you have your now playing display set to show the time index or progress bar,
then that also updates according to the scan speed.

if you want to navigate using a bar to a specific time index, then there is the
Song Scanner Plugin.

-kdf

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[slim] Re: SB2: Fast forward with FLAC?

[Yannzola]

I figured this was some sort of bug, but hadn't gotten around to
bitching about it yet.

Could someone please explain this to me? Regardless of how long I press
the FFwd/RW buttons while a (natively decoded) FLAC  is playing, it
always jumps to the next track. "Standard" behaviour is for a short tap
to track across titles, and a prolonged hold to track inside the song...
with play resuming once the button is lifted. In addition, some kind of
progress bar + time stamp would come in handy. 

Am I wrong? Does this feature indeed already exist? If so... uh... how
do I get it to work?
Thanks!
y.



kdf Wrote: 
> Quoting JayNYC :
> 
> >
> > "Native FLAC support in the firmware; allows pure lossless CD audio
> > transmission with reduced storage and bandwidth. "
> >
> > Does this mean I should be able to "fast forward" when listening to
> > FLACs using SB2?
> >
> 
> as individual tracks, yes.  Full albums, split up via a cue sheet
> (internal or
> external) still wont work for fwd or rewind just yet.
> 
> -kdf


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[slim] Sleep function dysfunction

[jscovell]

Sometimes the Sleep function works just fine, but about 2 nights out of
3 lately it has not worked. That is, say I set it to turn off in 60
minutes; five hours later, my Squeezebox2 is still playing (I use
SqueezeNetwork only). Is this an identified bug?


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Re: [slim] softsqueeze linux problem

[Richard Titmuss]

John,

Agreed this is not desirable. I have just fixed this in the latest 
version of Softsqueeze.


Richard


John Gorst wrote:



Just had a major problem with linux and softsqueeze.

I stopped the slimserver service and continued to run softsqueeze.

The following error appeared in .xsession-erros in my user directory 
repeatadly filling up my disc (the file was 45gb in size!)


I dont think this is desireable behaviour!

5913 [CliRead] WARN  cli  - Cannot connect CLI socket
java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)
at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)
at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)
at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

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Re: [slim] softsqueeze linux problem

[Richard Titmuss]

John,

Agreed this is not desireable. I have just fixed this in the latest 
version of Softsqueeze.


Richard


John Gorst wrote:



Just had a major problem with linux and softsqueeze.

I stopped the slimserver service and continued to run softsqueeze.

The following error appeared in .xsession-erros in my user directory 
repeatadly filling up my disc (the file was 45gb in size!)


I dont think this is desireable behaviour!

5913 [CliRead] WARN  cli  - Cannot connect CLI socket
java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused
at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)
at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)
at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)
at java.net.Socket.(Unknown Source)

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[slim] Re: Digital Coax cables

[seanadams]

smc62 Wrote: 
> Will any 75ohm RCA type cable (like a video cable) work or is there
> really something special about an "honest to God" Digital Coax cable?

Video cable meets the spec. I'd actually trust a video cable before a
"digital" cable, since it's harder to pass off a crappy video cable...


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Re: [slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

[kdf]

Quoting Justme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> If I bought a TV where some things worked only 20% of the time, it
> would be a scandle.

sure, but feed the tv a bad signal it is hard to fault the tv for a grainy
picture.

slimserver can't possibly correct for everything magically.  give a chance at
finding out the cause, then its easier to determine what, if anything, needs to
be fixed in slimserver. Every fix begins with somebody having a problem that
can be reliably reproduced by those who can fix it. Every problem that has been
fixed along the way, including many that you have benefitted from is due to
other users who have helped provide details of the cause.  This time, it looks
like it has to be your turn.  Pity, yes, but the effort is appreciated.

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[slim] Digital Coax cables

[smc62]

Will any 75ohm RCA type cable (like a video cable) work or is there
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[slim] Re: FLAC Streams and WinAMP?

[NuSkooler]

Thanks all, Softsqueeze was what I was looking for -- works great!


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[slim] Re: Discrete Remote Control Codes

[DrNic]

Thanks Dean

Nic


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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

[Justme]

radish Wrote: 
> Amusing, but hardly accurate. I, and many others, run SS on windows with
> no problems. 
> 
> As for the specific problems brought up by the poster, I can't say I've
> seen any of them. I run very similar hardware (Athlon 1.3, 512mb) and
> browsing is very fast (I have ~9500 tracks, and nearly 4000 artists).
> FF/REW never works for me because I transcode most stuff on the server
> (FLAC/Vorbis -> PCM). As for adding new stuff, I always do a rescan if
> I add more music. That takes a little while (maybe 15 mins) so it's not
> something I tend to do frequently - just in batches.

It's a real pity, maybe I'm the only one with the "title (artist)"
problem, where only the artist is displayed on 80% of the tracks. (It
also seems random, on some CD's, 8 of the 10 songs have no title now,
but 2 seem fine, despite the CD being ripped in one go). I'll try and
see if I can find a pattern, but to be honest I would really rather
spend my time actually using this device for it's original purpose -
listening to music rather than debugging it.

If I bought a TV where some things worked only 20% of the time, it
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[slim] Re: 100 years of progress

[Craig]

max.spicer Wrote: 
> 
> PS  Don't do this to an original gramophone whatever you do!

No chance, I know how much it cost ;-)

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[slim] Re: 100 years of progress

[max . spicer]

I've just shown this to my wife.  It seems that the gramophone styling
has a much higher Wife Appreciation Factor.  Maybe this should be an
alternative case?  The display would go quite nicely in the place of
the brass plaque on the front.

Max

PS  Don't do this to an original gramophone whatever you do!

Craig Wrote: 
> http://www.the-solicitors-band.co.uk/craig/img_1769.jpg
> One was made in 1905 the other in 2005
> 
> Craig


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[slim] Re: 100 years of progress

[DrNic]

Craig Wrote: 
> Haven't you heard of multitasking? ;-)
> 
> Craig
Only in women!!! (and computers...)

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Re: [slim] Re: Discrete Remote Control Codes

[dean blackketter]

Sean found the datasheets for the SC-33 remote and our IR code format:



E619 looks to be valid.

-dean

On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:49 PM, DrNic wrote:



DrNic Wrote:


Did you manage to confirm the device code for me?!

Nic



Bump!!!
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[slim] Re: 100 years of progress

[Craig]

Haven't you heard of multitasking? ;-)

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[slim] Re: 100 years of progress

[DrNic]

Craig Wrote: 
> 
> Maybe I'll get KDF to do a rewind plugin for it :-)
> 
> Craig
I can see an enhancement request already - scheduled rewind!!
I see you have a gig tomorrow night...
Would be impressed to see you playing the trumpet and performing
backing vocals at the same time though.. :)

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[slim] Re: 100 years of progress

[Craig]

No but sometimes you need to wind it up again partway through a track.
Maybe I'll get KDF to do a rewind plugin for it :-)

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[slim] Re: Discrete Remote Control Codes

[DrNic]

DrNic Wrote: 
> Did you manage to confirm the device code for me?!
> 
> Nic

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[slim] Re: 100 years of progress

[DrNic]

Cool picture!
Does the 1905 model have trouble with re-scans??
LOL

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[slim] Re: Is rescan from remote possible?

[JJZolx]

Rockin Wrote: 
> > But why would you want to do this?
> 
> Because some times I forget to do it late at night after I have ripped
> 3 or 4 new albums and find the next morning they are not available yet.
> Things like that happen all too often when you get older.

Use the Rescan Music Library plugin and schedule it to rescan your
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Re: [slim] Re: Is rescan from remote possible?

[dean blackketter]

I'm confused.  The Rescan plugin, which is included with the standard  
release, appears to be working for me.

On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Rockin wrote:





But why would you want to do this?



Because some times I forget to do it late at night after I have ripped
3 or 4 new albums and find the next morning they are not available  
yet.

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Re: [slim] Re: Is rescan from remote possible?

[kdf]

Quoting Rockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> > But why would you want to do this?
>
> Because some times I forget to do it late at night after I have ripped
> 3 or 4 new albums and find the next morning they are not available yet.
> Things like that happen all too often when you get older.
>
if you use browse music folder, they should be picked up as soon as you enter
that directory.

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Re: [slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

[Robin Bowes]

radish wrote:

It probably will if you install Linux on it :)




Amusing, but hardly accurate. I, and many others, run SS on windows
with no problems. 


Sorry. Private joke. I used to live near Simon and we met up a couple of 
times to get all geeky about music, hifi, and our Squeezeboxes. He'd had 
trouble installing linux on an old PC so I offered to help. I seem to 
remember it was a 486 with 12MB of RAM, or something!!


I must install Slimserver on a Windows box and see what all the fuss is 
about...


R.

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[slim] Re: Is rescan from remote possible?

[Rockin]

> But why would you want to do this?

Because some times I forget to do it late at night after I have ripped
3 or 4 new albums and find the next morning they are not available yet.
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[slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

[radish]

> It probably will if you install Linux on it :)
> 

Amusing, but hardly accurate. I, and many others, run SS on windows
with no problems. 

As for the specific problems brought up by the poster, I can't say I've
seen any of them. I run very similar hardware (Athlon 1.3, 512mb) and
browsing is very fast (I have ~9500 tracks, and nearly 4000 artists).
FF/REW never works for me because I transcode most stuff on the server
(FLAC/Vorbis -> PCM). As for adding new stuff, I always do a rescan if
I add more music. That takes a little while (maybe 15 mins) so it's not
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[slim] 100 years of progress

[Craig]

http://www.the-solicitors-band.co.uk/craig/img_1769.jpg
One was made in 1905 the other in 2005

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Re: [slim] Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

[Robin Bowes]

Simon @ Home wrote:


I've just ordered a 3.2mghz PC and am hoping this sorts out my problems and
that Slimserver, for the first time since I have been running it, works as I
expect it to.


It probably will if you install Linux on it :)

R.



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[slim] Timeout setting

[Steven Moore]

Is there any way of setting the timeout period before the dreaded  
"connection problem" message appears.
I get this message when searching for song titles and then only  
occasionally. The screen the goes blank but then reappears with the  
results, not very aesthetic.
If the timeout setting was user modifiable i.e in the server settings  
then we could adjust it to suit.


Thank you

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[slim] Re: SB2 don´t play

[jörgen]

No I haven´t.. 
Right now I only have SB2 connected.
I will ask the reseller for a new SB2, maybe it´s some hardware error.
I have also send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but no answer yet..

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RE: [slim] Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

[Simon @ Home]

> I have a win XP PC, not the fastest at 1gig Anthlon, and 1gig 
> RAM, but hey, it works perfectly with hardcore photo editing 
> software and massive audio software, just not slimserver.

I have a faster Windows XP machine (1.5mghz P4, 1gb RAM) and still get very
frustrated by the same problems you have (I have almost 800 albums held in
flac format). For me the 6*** SlimServer version is even slower than the
5.4.1 version. Listing music is frustratingly slow (although, oddly,
sometimes it's not!) and using the remote has become virtually impossible
(takes ages to do anything and the music stops playing whilst it drags
itself to perform any commands).
I love my Squeezebox but I'm definitely not very in love with Slimserver. My
feeling is that it does not work very well on Windows, although other XP
users state that it works fine for them which leaves me quite stumped,
and still (after almost a year) unable to be satisfied by the performance of
my Squeezebox/Slimserver combination.

I've just ordered a 3.2mghz PC and am hoping this sorts out my problems and
that Slimserver, for the first time since I have been running it, works as I
expect it to.

Simon Turner
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[slim] Re: Ogg vorbis and 6.1

[flatop]

The CPU is an AMD64.  I thought that Oggs used to play, and I lost the
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Re: [slim] Is rescan from remote possible?

[ron thigpen]

Michael Herger wrote:


As long as you don't touch the music collection using a computer you
won't have to scan it?!?


Podcasting.

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Re: [slim] Re: Is rescan from remote possible?

[Michael Herger]

There's afaik no plugin any more. It still shows up in the plugins list  
- is it broken (I don't ever use

it)?


It's still there, I was wrong. And it does work.

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[slim] Re: Modified Fishbone Skins

[Mike Hanson]

MrC Wrote: 
> I don't believe the zip is corrupted.  I was able to download w/IE and
> Opera without incident.
Hmmm.  I had no problem downloading, but WinZip isn't able to open it. 
PKZIP25 (command line) also reports errors in the ZIP.  I have the same
problem with the file from earlier today.

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[slim] Re: Modified Fishbone Skins

[MrC]

I used winzip to compress/decompress - perhaps you have an older
version?  Are you using 9.0 at least?


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Re: [slim] Re: Should Library Scanning Bring Server to a Halt

[Todd Fields]

--- radish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One thing - try disabling the anti-virus. If you have it set
> to check
> every file you open that could seriously slow things down. I
> set a
> filter to have the anti virus ignore *.mpe, *.flac, *.ogg,
> etc. You
> should be able to do the same.

This is a very good suggestion.

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Re: [slim] Should Library Scanning Bring Server to a Halt

[Todd Fields]

--- kdf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What can cause extended scan times are things like playlists
> that link to other
> playlists, or shortcuts/links that point back to other
> locations within your
> music folder. The former case is fixed in 6.2 nightlies, and
> should be into the
> 6.1.2 nightly in a day or two

I don't have playlists that refer to other playlists, however, I
believe I do have links that refer to other folders within the
library.  Maybe that's my problem.




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RE: [slim] Re: Should Library Scanning Bring Server to a Halt

[kdf]

Quoting Matt Alioto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Sorry to butt in, I just have a quick question regarding rescan.  I
> don't have playing problems during rescan, no drop outs ect.. but the
> menus on SB and SB2 are quite sluggish during rescan.  Can you confirm
> that is to be expected/normal.

They will suffer a bit during rescan.  It is a very CPU intensive process, in
order to get it done in as reasonable amount of time as is possible. Audio
playback is buffered and is considered higher priority over menu response,
especially during a scan. In fact, I'd even suggest there is a level of
argument in favour of blocking animation and remote control input during a
rescan.

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[slim] Re: Modified Fishbone Skins

[MrC]

I don't believe the zip is corrupted.  I was able to download w/IE and
Opera without incident.


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RE: [slim] Re: Should Library Scanning Bring Server to a Halt

[Matt Alioto]

> 
> I'm running on an old Athlon with 512mb, and like Kevin a scan takes
> around 15 mins. Playback usually isn't affected, I certainly don't
have
> any players losing contact. This is with a library of 9,500 tracks
> (~150gb of flac & vorbis).
> 
> radish

Hi
Sorry to butt in, I just have a quick question regarding rescan.  I
don't have playing problems during rescan, no drop outs ect.. but the
menus on SB and SB2 are quite sluggish during rescan.  Can you confirm
that is to be expected/normal.

Thanks
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[slim] Re: Modified Fishbone Skins

[Yannzola]

Yeah... I had the same problem originally. It's an IE binary parsing
thang. Use firefox, and the ZIP remains uncorrupted.

Mike Hanson Wrote: 
> It appears to be an invalid ZIP.
> 
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[slim] Re: Modified Fishbone Skins

[Mike Hanson]

MrC Wrote: 
> See attached updated zip.
It appears to be an invalid ZIP.

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[slim] Re: Is rescan from remote possible?

[Patrick Dixon]

> There's afaik no plugin any more. It still shows up in the plugins list - is 
> it broken (I don't ever use
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[slim] Re: Should Library Scanning Bring Server to a Halt

[radish]

I'm running on an old Athlon with 512mb, and like Kevin a scan takes
around 15 mins. Playback usually isn't affected, I certainly don't have
any players losing contact. This is with a library of 9,500 tracks
(~150gb of flac & vorbis).

One thing - try disabling the anti-virus. If you have it set to check
every file you open that could seriously slow things down. I set a
filter to have the anti virus ignore *.mpe, *.flac, *.ogg, etc. You
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Re: [slim] Re: SB2 don´t play

[dean blackketter]

Jörgen,

Do you have the SB1 and the SB2 synced?

On Jul 27, 2005, at 8:27 AM, jörgen wrote:



No firewall between the SB2 and server and they are at same subnet
and the my old SB at IP 192.169.10.10 works well
Is´t any diff between SB and SB2 in network requirement??

I also tried to set the enter a IP manually, I then use the same as
works for the old SB 192.168.10.10 but same result..

netstat -a

tcp0  0 192.168.10.5:3483   192.168.10.11:28117
ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 192.168.10.5:9000   192.168.10.11:28119
TIME_WAIT



The slimserver writes in the log when I play but nothing when the SB2
is paused.

from slimserver log
..
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0490 Got 4 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0506 new state: DATA
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0520 state: DATA, framelen: 41, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0533 attempting to read 41 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0547 Got 41 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0562 Got Slimproto frame, op STAT, length 41,
IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x985b5c4)
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0587 00:04:20:09:01:01 Squeezebox stream status:
fullness:3145727 (99%)
bytes_received   3386853
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0602 output size: 3528000
output fullness: 3520512
elapsed seconds: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0617 new state: OP
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0632 state: OP, framelen: 0, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0646 attempting to read 4 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0658 no more to read.
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0394 Slimproto client readable:
192.168.10.11:31427
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0409 state: OP, framelen: 0, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0423 attempting to read 4 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0436 Got 4 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0451 new state: LENGTH
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0465 state: LENGTH, framelen: 0, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0480 attempting to read 4 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0492 Got 4 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0509 new state: DATA
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0523 state: DATA, framelen: 41, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0536 attempting to read 41 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0549 Got 41 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0565 Got Slimproto frame, op STAT, length 41,
IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x985b5c4)
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0589 00:04:20:09:01:01 Squeezebox stream status:
fullness:3145727 (99%)
bytes_received   3386853
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0605 output size: 3528000
output fullness: 3520512
elapsed seconds: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0620 new state: OP
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0635 state: OP, framelen: 0, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0649 attempting to read 4 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0661 no more to read.




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[slim] Re: Recommendations for server hardware?

[RiccardoR]

fathom39 Wrote: 
> Interesting.  Thanks.  One of the reviews I saw for this PC mentioned
> the case was locked down - no access to the internals.  Have you
> changed out the HD on yours?  How did you do it?  What size?

No, no, no, it's wrong. This PC is one of the best accessible that I
ever seen. Open it with your hands, no tools required; there is a
sleigh that you can insert with the HD and the engineering of all the
parts is perfect (is made by HP is not a clone!). By other hand the
space is enough only for one HD and so forget to assemble a multi HD
raid solution.
Another solution can be the Compaq iPaq PC: a quite similar PC, small
as the HP e-pc but with integrated power supply (I don't ever hear how
much noise it produces).
I suggest this PC also for another use: running Skype.
Ciao, Riccardo


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Re: [slim] Should Library Scanning Bring Server to a Halt

[kdf]

Under normal circumstances, it should not overload the CPU for a night.  I have
about 10,000 tracks and that takes about 15-20 minutes for a full rescan from a
cleared library.  It depends on whether I'm running just a folder scan or
adding in iTunes and MusicMagic scans on top.

What can cause extended scan times are things like playlists that link to other
playlists, or shortcuts/links that point back to other locations within your
music folder. The former case is fixed in 6.2 nightlies, and should be into the
6.1.2 nightly in a day or two
(http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1826).  The latter has not yet
seen an acceptably complete solution:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=576

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[slim] Should Library Scanning Bring Server to a Halt

[Todd Fields]

Scanning my library (about 40GBs of MP3s) has always taken
awhile with any version of SlimServer (since the SLIMP3 days.) 
However, I've noticed that starting with version 6 (I'm
currently using 6.1.1), it now completely consumes my server's
resources.  The PC acts as though it is locked up and my
Squeezebox displays a message that it's lost contact with
SlimServer.  I usually just let it run overnight and eventually
it finishes the scan (not sure exactly how long it takes but it
is quite some time) and then everything operates fine.  It's not
that big of deal as I don't rescan often and I just let it run
over night but I am just curious if this is normal behavior.

I'm running XP Pro on an Athlon 2100+ with 1GB RAM.  The PC is
dedicated to SlimServer and runs nothing else other than
antivirus software.

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[slim] Re: SlimServer Crashing Here Too

[montel]

I installed 6.1.1 last week on my mac G5 with OSX 10.4.2.  There's a
noticeable performance improvement over any of the 6.0 releases, but
I'm also experiencing crashes when I  return to the player after
several hours of idling.  The good news is that stopping and restarting
the server brings it back without having to wait for an entire rescan,
but the crashes are happening at least daily.  I found one repeated
error in the slimserver log that may be related.  Here's an example:

2005-07-27 09:21:36.0636 Got sigterm.
2005-07-27 09:21:36.0709 SlimServer cleaning up.
DBD::SQLite::db commit failed: cannot commit transaction - SQL
statements in progress(1) at dbdimp.c line 217 at
/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm
line 780.
Slim::DataStores::DBI::LightWeightTrack can't SELECT DISTINCT tracks.id
AS id,tracks.album AS album,tracks.url AS url,tracks.multialbumsortkey
AS multialbumsortkey,tracks.ct AS ct FROM tracks  WHERE ( tracks.url
like ? ) ORDER BY tracks.titlesort: DBD::SQLite::db commit failed:
cannot commit transaction - SQL statements in progress(1) at dbdimp.c
line 217 at
/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm
line 780.
at
/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm
line 237
2005-07-27 09:21:36.2094 Got to the END.
2005-07-27 09:21:36.2096 Got sigint.
2005-07-27 09:21:36.2097 SlimServer cleaning up.
DBD::SQLite::db commit failed: cannot commit transaction - SQL
statements in progress(1) at dbdimp.c line 217 at
/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm
line 780.
DBD::SQLite::db commit failed: cannot commit transaction - SQL
statements in progress(1) at dbdimp.c line 217 at
/Library/PreferencePanes/SlimServer.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm
line 780.
END failed--call queue aborted.
closing dbh with active statement handles


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[slim] Re: Is rescan from remote possible?

[tygar]

Use your remote to go to Plugins, then go to Rescan Music Library, and
then to Press PLAY to rescan now


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Re: [slim] Is rescan from remote possible?

[Michael Herger]

I find it a hassle to have to log on to the computer, pull up a browser,
and navigate to the rescan.  I would like to be able to perform a rescan
from the remote control.  Is this possible and if so, how?


There's afaik no plugin any more. But why would you want to do this? As  
long as you don't touch the music collection using a computer you won't  
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[slim] Is rescan from remote possible?

[Rockin]

I find it a hassle to have to log on to the computer, pull up a browser,
and navigate to the rescan.  I would like to be able to perform a rescan
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[slim] Re: SB2 don´t play

[jörgen]

No firewall between the SB2 and server and they are at same subnet
and the my old SB at IP 192.169.10.10 works well
Is´t any diff between SB and SB2 in network requirement??

I also tried to set the enter a IP manually, I then use the same as
works for the old SB 192.168.10.10 but same result.. 

netstat -a 

tcp0  0 192.168.10.5:3483   192.168.10.11:28117
ESTABLISHED
tcp0  0 192.168.10.5:9000   192.168.10.11:28119
TIME_WAIT



The slimserver writes in the log when I play but nothing when the SB2
is paused.

from slimserver log
..
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0490 Got 4 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0506 new state: DATA
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0520 state: DATA, framelen: 41, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0533 attempting to read 41 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0547 Got 41 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0562 Got Slimproto frame, op STAT, length 41,
IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x985b5c4)
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0587 00:04:20:09:01:01 Squeezebox stream status:
fullness:3145727 (99%)
bytes_received   3386853
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0602output size: 3528000
output fullness: 3520512
elapsed seconds: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0617 new state: OP
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0632 state: OP, framelen: 0, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0646 attempting to read 4 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:07.0658 no more to read.
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0394 Slimproto client readable:
192.168.10.11:31427
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0409 state: OP, framelen: 0, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0423 attempting to read 4 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0436 Got 4 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0451 new state: LENGTH
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0465 state: LENGTH, framelen: 0, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0480 attempting to read 4 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0492 Got 4 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0509 new state: DATA
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0523 state: DATA, framelen: 41, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0536 attempting to read 41 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0549 Got 41 bytes from client, 0 remaining
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0565 Got Slimproto frame, op STAT, length 41,
IO::Socket::INET=GLOB(0x985b5c4)
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0589 00:04:20:09:01:01 Squeezebox stream status:
fullness:3145727 (99%)
bytes_received   3386853
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0605output size: 3528000
output fullness: 3520512
elapsed seconds: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0620 new state: OP
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0635 state: OP, framelen: 0, inbuflen: 0
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0649 attempting to read 4 bytes
2005-07-27 17:15:08.0661 no more to read.




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[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.1.1 missing tracks with long filenames

[alex_london]

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[slim] Re: Lost directory info 6.1.2 SB2

[tim]

Well,
I would try a couple of things to recreate the problem:

Share a network directory and create a shorcut to that directory in
your slimserver music library. Run Slimserver as the Administrator.
Rescan your library to pick it up.  Run slimserver as a local user
under XP.  Delete the shared directory, but not the shortcut.  Browse
albums, or rescan.

I won't have time to recreate the problem.  It's running fine now. 
Hope it helps.
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[slim] Re: SlimServer Crashing Here Too

[Dan Sully]

* JJZolx shaped the electrons to say...


trunk or branch?

trunk


the trunk, after 6.1.1 release is back to experimental status.

Not a problem.

Ok, running from the command line with the suggested switches.  Will
let you know what I see if it happens again.


Thanks. Also if you're running trunk - best if you report on the dev or beta
forums, as it will hit more relevant eyes that way.

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Re: [slim] SB2 don´t play

[Michael Herger]

No sound and and the progress bar at the "now playing" screen will not
be updated.
Everything works very well with my old Squeezebox and i can play
http://mediaserver:9000/stream.mp3 from a PC.
Same problem with both LAN (Cable) and WLAN


Do you use the firewall on your slimserver machine? You'd need to open  
ports 3483 & 9000. SliMP3 used imho only 3483.


Or did you block access to the server's web interface for some network  
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[slim] Re: Search kills server in 6.1.1 OS X

[morps]

kdf Wrote: 
> On 26-Jul-05, at 8:04 PM, morps wrote:
> 
> Are you searching for something that doesn't exist?
> Which search mode are you using, live or advanced?
> Which skin are you using, and which browser?
> 
> -kdf

1. Nope, searching for known artists.
2. Under the Search Music section, I am using the "search music" link
which brings up a single text field where I enter what I'm looking for
(as opposed to using the "Advanced Search" in the same section).
3. Web interface = default. Browser: Crashes both with Mac OS X Safari
1.3 as well as Windows FireFox 1.06.


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[slim] SB2 don´t play

[jörgen]

Hi 
I have just bought a new SB2 but it doesn't play anything. 
It can talk to the slimserver and browse music but when I try to play
nothing happens!??! 
No sound and and the progress bar at the "now playing" screen will not
be updated. 
Everything works very well with my old Squeezebox and i can play
http://mediaserver:9000/stream.mp3 from a PC. 
Same problem with both LAN (Cable) and WLAN 

Slimserver 6.1.1 Linux Mandrake 
Firmware 15 (the working SB has 40) 

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Re: [slim] Re: Can't "hear" mp3s any more...but Internet Radio works?

[Chip Hart]

radish wrote:
> Chip - I think you're confusing bitrate and sample frequency, they are
> related but are not the same thing. Formally (for CBR anyway) : BitRate
> = SampleFreq * SampleSize. 

...the moment I walked out of my office last night, I realized
"If I'm setting my bitrate < 44kbps, that'll mean my sample rate
will be below the necessary 44MHz."  [forgive me if my metrics
and science are wrong, but I think the concept is there]

Sure enough, that was it.  

If only I hadn't lost all 20K tracks the evening before and if
only I hadn't decided to resample that one batch of mp3s so
low...

Whew.  Thanks for the help.  


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[slim] Re: Recommendations for server hardware?

[Paul Runyan]

Thanks for all the very useful suggestions.  I had thought that the Mac
mini would be a nice lightweight solution for a lightweight problem but
now even that seems like using a chainsaw to cut butter.

I hadn't come across the NSLU2 before or the posting in a previous
thread about before Josef's post.  The idea of it really appeals to me.
>From reports it has no problem serving audio to one or two SB2s, but I
would guess that driving the web UI is were any speed problems would
really be noticable.  I haven't heard anyone mention how responsive the
web UI running SlimServer on the NSLU2.  It would be interesting to find
out.

- Paul


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[slim] Is there any software version that will actually work for me?

[Justme]

I love my squeezebox, but slimserver is simply driving me made. The
first version I downloaded hardly worked at all, and although new
releases have fixed some of the problems, they always introduce new
ones.

I currently have 6.1.1, and I upgraded from the previous version, as I
couldn't fast forward or rewind (If I did, it would just begin skipping
and jittering endlessly, even if I changed songs. The only way to fix it
was to restart my computer). There were plenty of other problems such as
slow response time for browsing etc, although this was imporved from the
previous version.

Now, how can one live without fastforward or rewind? When friends were
around, they would fall in love with the device and decide on the spot
to buy one, but changed their minds when they saw all the software
flaws (I tried to add a new track I just ripped, and it simply wouldn't
see it).

Now with 6.1.1 the fastforward/rewind is better, at least in the fact
that I don't have to restart my computer to stop the jittering. It's
still a problem as it doesn't actually fast forward through the song,
it just jitters when I press the button and then continues playing
after, but no further in the song.

Great.

But now my big peave is that the display simply won't see most of the
track names. This is driving me mad. All my mp3's have names and the
artist. In Slim server I have it set to display "Title (Artist)". This
worked in the previous version, but now about 80% of the tracks only
show the artist. It makes it impossible to bowse or search, and of
cause, on "show playing" it usually just has the artist name in
brackets with no song title before that. This has not only annoyed me
to endless lengths, but it has discouraged another two friends from
buying this device.

Has anyone seen this problem? Or is it just me.

Another problem with this new release is that it is so much slower than
the other. Yesterday a friend asked to hear a particular song from
Placebo. Great, normally this should be a 10second operation to begin
the song, but it took 10minutes for first the "browse artists" to list
the artists and a further 5minutes to scroll to the band in question,
then of cause with no song titles and three CD's to go through testing
each song, we just gave up and put the damn CD in.

I have a win XP PC, not the fastest at 1gig Anthlon, and 1gig RAM, but
hey, it works perfectly with hardcore photo editing software and
massive audio software, just not slimserver.


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[slim] Re: sony PSP as remote

[Milhouse]

The latest version 2.00 PSP firmware (available today for Jap machines,
"soon" for US) includes a web browser (from NetFront) and it works very
well with Handheld (Fishbone is just about usable too).

Unfortunately Handheld suffers from the same "Browse Artwork" bug as
NetFront 3.2 on my iPaq - the first and second album artwork display
OK, then subsequent album artwork repeatedly overwrites the second
album image. A minor issue however, but would be nice to see fixed :)

Version 2.00 at long last includes WPA-PSK/TKIP which is working a
treat with my Linksys WRT54GS (running Alchemy firmware from Sveasoft
but should be fine with stock Linksys firmware also).

PSP firmware download details 'here'
(http://forum.lik-sang.com/showthread.php?t=5843).

However I think the 'Nokia 770'
(http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,1522,,00.html?orig=/770) would probably
make a better remote control - using the analog joystick on the PSP to
navigate along with the relatively small and low res screen means it's
sometimes a chore to find what you want - a larger screen with
touchscreen capability would be my ideal.


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[slim] Re: Modified Fishbone Skins

[Mike Hanson]

MrC Wrote: 
> I've taken the left-justified Fishbone skins presented by Mike Hanson,
> and replaced empty (padding) table entries with CSS.  The size of the
> HTML presented to the webserver is now one half its original size.  In
> my test case, the code went from 278K down to 140K.
Good stuff!  I'll download it and take a look.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-


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Re: [slim] Re: 6.1.2 Nightly 25/7/05

[Neil Cameron]

On here, or by email...?

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"Dan Sully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>* Neil Cameron shaped the electrons to say...
>
>>Amazingly, yes I do...
>
> Neil - can you send me your slimserversql.db file?
>
> Along with the name of the album that you aren't seeing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -D
> -- 
>  It sucks to discover that you are the foremost authority on some set 
> of things when you've got a problem. 



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[slim] Re: SlimServer Crashing Here Too

[JJZolx]

kdf Wrote: 
> Quoting JJZolx :
> 
> > The server crashes while idling - no music playing, no open browser
> > window pointed at the server.  Nothing is being posted in the event
> > logs.
> >
> > I've updated the installation to r3802.
> >
> trunk or branch?
trunk

> the trunk, after 6.1.1 release is back to experimental status.
Not a problem.

> try running it from command line, or editting the command line for the
> server
> link to include the --logfile c:\mylog.txt argument.  maybe add
> --d_plugins
> --d_info --d_parse just for interest.  there are some plugins that are
> crashing, and some itunes issues (tho I think Dan fixed the crashers
> today).

Ok, running from the command line with the suggested switches.  Will
let you know what I see if it happens again.


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Re: [slim] SlimServer Crashing Here Too

[kdf]

Quoting JJZolx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> The server crashes while idling - no music playing, no open browser
> window pointed at the server.  Nothing is being posted in the event
> logs.
>
> I've updated the installation to r3802.
>
trunk or branch?

the trunk, after 6.1.1 release is back to experimental status.

try running it from command line, or editting the command line for the server
link to include the --logfile c:\mylog.txt argument.  maybe add --d_plugins
--d_info --d_parse just for interest.  there are some plugins that are
crashing, and some itunes issues (tho I think Dan fixed the crashers today).

-kdf
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[slim] Re: SlimServer Crashing Here Too

[Dan Sully]

* JJZolx shaped the electrons to say...


I'm also seeing SlimServer crashing on a very regular basis.  Virtually
any time I come back to my server after a couple of hours I'll find
SlimServer no longer running.

Version was r3789, Perl source running on Windows XP Pro with SQLite. 
Only the Date/Time plugin is enabled.  The music directory is on a

local disk and I have no playlists, no cue sheets, no linked
directories.

The server crashes while idling - no music playing, no open browser
window pointed at the server.  Nothing is being posted in the event
logs.

I've updated the installation to r3802.


Can you run slim.exe from a command prompt?

That way any output will be shown.

Thanks.

-D
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bad design".
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[slim] SlimServer Crashing Here Too

[JJZolx]

I'm also seeing SlimServer crashing on a very regular basis.  Virtually
any time I come back to my server after a couple of hours I'll find
SlimServer no longer running.

Version was r3789, Perl source running on Windows XP Pro with SQLite. 
Only the Date/Time plugin is enabled.  The music directory is on a
local disk and I have no playlists, no cue sheets, no linked
directories.

The server crashes while idling - no music playing, no open browser
window pointed at the server.  Nothing is being posted in the event
logs.

I've updated the installation to r3802.


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Jim
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