Re: [slim] Player stopping rather than pausing when switched off

2005-07-31 Thread Robin Cooksey
Thanks for the quick reply.

It's not critical, but I'd got used to the behaviour, and I still
think it's what I prefer.  My usage is simply that I stop players
(e.g. when I leave the room) by turning them off (so they show the
clock), and when I start it again I like the music to pick up from
where it stopped.

This also happens to be how the other devices that I listen to music
on behave - iPod and in-car mini-disc.

I guess I could achieve a similar effect by using pause rather than
switching it off, and using an idle screensaver to show the clock; but
I think switching it off is cleaner and more intuitive.

How about an option to keep position within track when switched off? 
What do others think about this behaviour?

Cheers,
Robin

On 8/1/05, dean blackketter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This was an intentional change, in part to fix a bug where the volume
> levels got messed up if you paused, but mostly because it seemed more
> consistent with the behavior of other consumer electronics devices.
> 
> It sounds like this was a behavior that you were counting on.  Can
> you describe how you use it so we can fix it in the best possible way?
> 
> On Jul 31, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Robin Cooksey wrote:
> 
> > In 6.1.1, players seem to stop rather than pause when switched off.
> > I.e. when switched back on they say "Stopped", rather than "Paused",
> > and they have reverted back to the start of the track; rather than
> > starting at the same position in the track when play is pressed.
> >
> > I observe this on all players (all of Slimp3, Squeezebox, Squeezebox2
> > and Softsqueeze), and I've checked with the server running on Linux,
> > as well as a clean Windows install.  Tracks are MP3s in all cases.
> >
> > Is this an intentional change in behaviour?  Is there any way to get
> > the previous behaviour back (with an option, if this was an
> > intentional change)?
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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

datdude Wrote: 
> Well I have a nice new laptop and I want to be able to stream music to
> my stereo.  Airtunes is what I am looking for except I hate iTunes.  A
> cool piece of software called the airfoil takes digital audio from any
> Mac app and sends it to Airtunes: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil
> 
> If someone could do that for the squeezebox(windows)that would be
> killer.

How would you control what's playing from where you're listening?


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

Well I have a nice new laptop and I want to be able to stream music to
my stereo.  Airtunes is what I am looking for except I hate iTunes.  A
cool piece of software called the airfoil takes digital audio from anny
Mac app and sends it to Airtunes: http://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil

If someone could dot that for the squeezebox(windows)that would be
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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

kjg Wrote: 
> 
> 
> Definitely possible, but requires reasonably sophisticated Javascript
> to do it. 

My Javascript knowledge is horribly dated (Netscape 3). Do you have
references or examples for this?

I could imagine doing things with stuff inside the browser pane, but
could you really drag something in from an outside app?


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Re: [slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread Ken

Pat Farrell wrote:


On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 21:17 -0700, datdude wrote:
 



 

Drag and drop is pretty hard (impossible?) to do in 
a pure HTML web browser.
 



Definitely possible, but requires reasonably sophisticated Javascript to 
do it. I believe that the ExBrowse2 skin uses DnD in the playlist 
window. You might check with the author of that skin and see what it 
would take to generalize the DnD code to the rest of the interface.


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Re: [slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread Pat Farrell
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 21:54 -0700, datdude wrote:
> pfarrell Wrote: 
> > What's a "desktop MP3 player"?
> JRiver MeidaCenter, Winamp, Itunes...
> 
> I think that more online web services being integrated into desktop
> apps is where its going.  Eventualy other than pure html you won't know
> the difference between something that is served off the web vs your
> desktop (having no context of what the app was for).

OK, I would have just called them local applications.
Winamp can be a client for the SlimServer, but I guess
that is not quite what you are looking for.

It is really hard to write a local application that
is platform independent. Java, Perl, etc. come close, but
there are security issues with having complete access to
the hardware. The Mac OS-X does a good job of offering
audio services, and modern Linux distros do as well.
I'm not smart enough to see how to do it with Windows,
and given that Windows Vista is due RSN, whatever I 
do now would have to be at least ported.

If you just want to run Winamp or a similar program,
why bother with SlimServer at all? Just get a big disk.

While the softsqueeze is a cool program, it is really just
a software equivalent to the SqueezeBox, which is pretty
dumb hardware.

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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

pfarrell Wrote: 
> On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 21:17 -0700, datdude wrote:
> > Right, I didn't reliase the slimserver's interface was based around
> a
> > web browser.  Oh well, let me know when an API of some sort is made
> to
> > desktop mp3 players.
> 
> Browsers are where it is at. :-)
> 
> There is a command line interface that you can use from any language.
> The SlimServer is written in Perl. The source code is part of the
> package. Have at it.
> 
> Drag and drop is pretty hard (impossible?) to do in 
> a pure HTML web browser.
> 
> What's a "desktop MP3 player"?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Pat
> http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

JRiver MeidaCenter, Winamp, Itunes...

I think that more online web services being integrated into desktop
apps is where its going.  Eventualy other than pure html you won't know
the difference between something that is served off the web vs your
desktop (having no context of what the app was for).


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Re: [slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread Pat Farrell
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 21:17 -0700, datdude wrote:
> Right, I didn't reliase the slimserver's interface was based around a
> web browser.  Oh well, let me know when an API of some sort is made to
> desktop mp3 players.

Browsers are where it is at. :-)

There is a command line interface that you can use from any language.
The SlimServer is written in Perl. The source code is part of the
package. Have at it.

Drag and drop is pretty hard (impossible?) to do in 
a pure HTML web browser.

What's a "desktop MP3 player"?


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

radish Wrote: 
> Well, no. It's a webpage. You can however select them from within the
> slimserver interface itself.


Right, I didn't reliase the slimserver's interface was based around a
web browser.  Oh well, let me know when an API of some sort is made to
desktop mp3 players.


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Re: [slim] My Router problems are fixed!!

2005-07-31 Thread Josef Shvejk
Netgear Pre-N WGM124 router sales for $40, after rebates, at CompUSA this week.
 
Netgear is now advertising RangeMax models and it's Pre-N could be at dead end.
But if all you need is to extend SB range and connection reliability, then it works great.
And the router is build as a tank :) 
On 7/30/05, camelx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
picked up a Belkin Pre-N router, and Oh My God..
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Re: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread Josef Shvejk
It sounds similar to the gmail starred feature:Starred - Messages or conversations to which you've given a special status so you can follow up on them later.Interesting conceptOn 7/31/05, gdg <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> THE SOLUTION:> As a halfway measure one thing I would find VERY usefull (and easy to> implement) would  a "flag" button (on the remote)so that one could keep
> track of tunes that one wants to put in a playlist at a later time> (other than when SB2 is actually playing).> At the computer interface this "flag" could show up as a check mark> beside the song track. One could  then visually search for the flagged
> songs or better yet, use a search feature to locate the "flagged" tunes
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Re: [slim] Player stopping rather than pausing when switched off

2005-07-31 Thread dean blackketter
This was an intentional change, in part to fix a bug where the volume  
levels got messed up if you paused, but mostly because it seemed more  
consistent with the behavior of other consumer electronics devices.


It sounds like this was a behavior that you were counting on.  Can  
you describe how you use it so we can fix it in the best possible way?


On Jul 31, 2005, at 9:05 AM, Robin Cooksey wrote:


In 6.1.1, players seem to stop rather than pause when switched off.
I.e. when switched back on they say "Stopped", rather than "Paused",
and they have reverted back to the start of the track; rather than
starting at the same position in the track when play is pressed.

I observe this on all players (all of Slimp3, Squeezebox, Squeezebox2
and Softsqueeze), and I've checked with the server running on Linux,
as well as a clean Windows install.  Tracks are MP3s in all cases.

Is this an intentional change in behaviour?  Is there any way to get
the previous behaviour back (with an option, if this was an
intentional change)?

Cheers,
Robin
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RE: [slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread Phillip Kerman
>You'd have to have every
> song in your CD collection commited to memory? I certainly don't.

An interesting side effect of having the SB is that I am way closer to
really having everything memorized.  That is, before I could tell you from
which album every song was because I had just stuck in the CD.  But, now I
can tell you the track, album, and probably the year.  

Sorry if this distracts from the original thread but it's one of the first
thing I noticed happening once I really started to use my SB.

Thanks,
Phillip

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[slim] Re: sony PSP as remote

2005-07-31 Thread radish

I just tried the handheld skin on my PSP and it works great. Only one
thing I'd change - would be great if the coverart would be (a) optional
and/or (b) resizable. My cover scans are 500x500 and way too big for the
PSP screen. Otherwise, very very cool. I agree a 770 may well be better,
but until it's available, my PSP just got a new purpose in life. In
fact, my GF has now decided she wants one :)


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread radish

datdude Wrote: 
> Glad I tried the softsqueeze.  Looks like I can't select files from my
> media player and drop them into the slimserver playing now area.

Well, no. It's a webpage. You can however select them from within the
slimserver interface itself.


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

I just realized that I can't even do what I'm proposing from the
computer. When creating a playlist, as soon as I attemp to play a song
(because I need to preview it), the list is deleted. Unfortuneatly I
suspect there are fundamental technical issues with the creation of an
additional "que" where one could store song selections (that are
previewed in the  playlist)

You want a suggestion? Here's a simple halfway measure that I would
find VERY usefull. 

THE CURRENT ISSUE:
How do you create playlists?

THE PROBLEM:
You have to have already decided  what you want to put in the list
BEFORE it's created and how do you do that? 
Do you keep a pen and paper at your listening seat and note each song
that you like while it's playing in order to create the list later? Do
you memorize the stuff you want to "playlist"? 
These techniques are neither very "efficient" nor particularly
"intuitive". 

THE SOLUTION:
As a halfway measure one thing I would find VERY usefull (and easy to
implement) would  a "flag" button (on the remote)so that one could keep
track of tunes that one wants to put in a playlist at a later time
(other than when SB2 is actually playing). 
At the computer interface this "flag" could show up as a check mark
beside the song track. One could  then visually search for the flagged
songs or better yet, use a search feature to locate the "flagged" tunes
. It would then be easy(er) to mix and match songs in playlists. 
*In terms of needing a new  button on the remote I believe that would
also be an easy problem to solve: 
Just use the current "add" button and give it 2 user defined funtions
"flag" or "add" (which could be toggled  in the server settings menu).

PS
I have done something my own version of a "flag" technique for years.
On the back of the CD box I would simply "check" or circle (with
permanent marker) the songs that I liked. That would facilitate the
quick creation of a "selected tracks" playback list on my CDP whenever
I cued up that CD.


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[slim] Re: My Router problems are fixed!!

2005-07-31 Thread Kevin O. Lepard

In your mixed environment, check out results here:

http://cnet.nytimes.com/Netgear_WPN824_RangeMax/4505-3319_7-31312124-2.html

and this excellent review site gives many reviews and a summary for the
two routers in question:

http://www.consumersearch.com/www/computers/wireless-router-reviews/fullstory.html


Thanks for the pointers.

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[slim] Re: Click and drag playlist items in web interface?

2005-07-31 Thread Mitch G

Jacob Potter Wrote: 
> On 7/31/05, Mitch G  forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> > Then I'm confused.
> > I thought the thread and the skin was about being able to build up a
> > playlist by dragging and dropping items.
> > 
> > Is that not the case?
> 
> You can change the order of songs in the playlist by drag-and-drop (in
> the ExBrowse2 skin), but not add songs.
> 
> I'm starting on a complete rework of the SlimServer <-> ExBrowse2 skin
> communication (JSON-RPC, rather than generic plain-old-XML), so
> eventually things like dragging from the music library will be
> possible. Don't hold your breath, though :)
> 
> - Jacob

Oops, I edited my post out from under you. I realized my mistake.
I look forward to the drag-and-drop capability - but I'll take your
advice and be sure to breathe. 

Thanks,


Mitch


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

Doing it at the computer is not a problem. The interface is flexible
enough. I don't want to have to think ahead, otherwise I'd still have a
CDP and just get up every time I want to listen to a CD.  
And why should I have to think ahead? The whole point of this is to be
able play music as flexably and easily a possible. More to the point,
what I'm asking has been a basic feature on virtually any CDP since
they were invented. While I suspect that many people don't use it have
always found it very usefull to be able to quickly list a selection of
tracks I want to listen to at that given moment.  What's more is it is
ridiculously simple. I don't NEED to preview if I don't want to. 
I either just list the track number and press add or...
if I can't remember which ones I like, I give a quick listen to each
tune and then press the "add" button before moving on. 
What's so confusing and why is it a problem to have this feature if you
don't use it? I can tell you one thing. I do use the feature and will
sorely miss it.


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Re: [slim] Re: Is there something wrong with my SB2 display?

2005-07-31 Thread dean blackketter

Possibly, thought the images are a bit hard to see.

Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] to see if you need a replacement unit.

-dean

On Jul 29, 2005, at 10:04 PM, jazzfan wrote:



I'm going out of town for a week, but I'll check back when I return to
see what everyone thinks.  Here's what I know.  This issue does not
show up if I turn on SB2 with Slimserver running.  I generally only  
use

SqueezeNetwork.

When turning on my SB2 with only SN running the display is distored
with multiple lines.  The only fix is to power cycle the SB2, then  
it's

fine.

I have 2 pics and 1 mpg showing you what I see.  Feel free to take a
look, they're not the best, but should give you an idea.

Here's a link to them.
http://telecomwidgets.com/sbdisp1.jpg
http://telecomwidgets.com/sbdisp2.jpg
http://telecomwidgets.com/sbclip.mpg

Thanks, in advance,
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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

Seriously - how EXACTLY do you want this to work?

A "preview" button?
A "delete" button?
Different functionality for the "add" button?

Describe what button(s) you want, and what they should do in every
context, what should be shown on the screen when you press them, and
what should happen to the playlist. If you have a better idea than the
way we've done it, we're all ears.

What you're asking for is "syntactic sugar" - a better way to express
something that can already be done. That's great, we love that - what
do you propose?

Consider also what a new user would expect - beginners are making the
transition from CD players, which just play a dozen or so tracks, and
do not let you play some other CD in the middle of the one you're
listening to! I'm not saying we're tied to the status quo, but it has
to be "intuitive".

(Yes this is meant to come off as a "challenge", but I'm also trying to
be constructive - you have a fine idea but I'm not able to visualize a
workable interface on my own).


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread JJZolx

gdg Wrote: 
> Why would you NOT want a preview function?
I'll give you several reasons why I wouln't use it.  The first being
the most important.

--- I find the remote interface to be incredibly tedious for all but
the simplest of SB operations.

--- If I want a spur of the moment playlist, I'll do it at my
computer.

--- If I'm not familiar with a tune, I might preview it in Winamp
first, then add it through the web UI to the SlimServer Now Playing
queue.  But it's not likely I'd even bother.  It's a little like a
jukebox in a bar - people don't usually play tunes they're not familiar
with.

I can't evan fathom how time-consuming and frustrating putting together
playlists using the SB remote UI would be, especially if you're going to
start previewing tracks before adding them.


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

seanadams Wrote: 
> In the context of "Now Playing", "add" removes songs from the queue.
> add=remove, retarded, I know. Just think of it as "un-add" since it's
> the only action that makes sense for the context - i.e. "add" toggles
> it in and out of the playlist. Other ways we could have done it:
> 
> - label it "add/subtract" - okay so which is it going to do? 
> 
> - have a separate subtract/delete button - okay now what does that
> button do when you're in "Browse Music"?
> 
> In the web interface, we have the ability attach appropriate UI actions
> to a song depending on context (ie on the left side of the screen you
> have "Add" and "play", and on the right side you have "move" and
> "remove"). On the remote, however, there are a limited number of
> buttons that need to do something reasonable in a given context. Adding
> more buttons does not always make it easier.

Maybe I'm missing something. If one is in the "play other songs in
album" mode the "add" button does in fact delete. The problem is that
one would have to delete ALL the songs one "doesn't want" instead of
adding the occasional one that one does want. Not very practical.
On the other hand in "play only selected song" mode the "add" button
does indeed add and now there are 2 off the same thing in the "now
playing/playlist". Worse. As soon as one goes to another song the
current list disappears. In this case not workable at all. 

Back to my original comment. Another memory location is neccessary for
this application. I'm surprised that this is not an issue. The very
first things I've tried to do with the SB2 have been impossible. ie.
1) modify and add to a playlist on the fly (from the listening chair)
as I discover new things I'd like in the list. 
2) create a short term playlist from scratch from the listening chair
If these 2 things were possible this thing would be TOTALLY IT.


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

JJZolx Wrote: 
> Seems like Now Playing should (or could) only represent what is actively
> being played, while the song queue/playlist could be something
> completely different.  Then a 'preview' function would bump the Now
> Playing track while leaving the queue undisturbed.
> .

You've nailed it. 

I want to be able to create a playback list on a whim and depending on
the mood I'm in at that excact moment(probably for one timie only). It
seems to me that's a fairly basic expectation. 
Why would you NOT want a preview function. You'd have to have every
song in your CD collection commited to memory? I certainly don't.


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

gdg Wrote: 
> A delete button would also work. That way one could listen then add or
> subtract it from the playlist. (that's what you do in the computer
> interface).

In the context of "Now Playing", "add" removes songs from the queue.
add=remove, retarded, I know. Just think of it as "un-add" since it's
the only action that makes sense for the context - i.e. "add" toggles
it in and out of the playlist. Other ways we could have done it:

- label it "add/subtract" - okay so which is it going to do? 

- have a separate subtract/delete button - okay now what does that
button do when you're in "Browse Music"?

In the web interface, we have the ability attach appropriate UI actions
to a song depending on context (ie on the left side of the screen you
have "Add" and "play", and on the right side you have "move" and
"remove"). On the remote, however, there are a limited number of
buttons that need to do something reasonable in a given context. Adding
more buttons does not always make it easier.


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

Glad I tried the softsqueeze.  Looks like I can't select files from my
media player and drop them into the slimserver playing now area.


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread JJZolx

seanadams Wrote: 
> The task you're asking the UI to provide seems reasonable enough, but I
> think it would be extremely confusing if there were essentially another
> layer on top of "now playing" for what's "now NOW playing".  Can you
> think of a better way to express this operation than the "add/remove"
> interface provided?
Seems like Now Playing should (or could) only represent what is
actively being played, while the song queue/playlist could be something
completely different.  Then a 'preview' function would bump the Now
Playing track while leaving the queue undisturbed.

I've never use another digital music player that offers a preview
function, so why this is a big shortcoming of the SB, I can't
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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread MrC

Try the fishbone skin - it has delete track / album buttons.


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

A delete button would also work. That way one could listen then add or
subtract it from the playlist. (that's what you do in the computer
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[slim] Re: My Router problems are fixed!!

2005-07-31 Thread MrC

In your mixed environment, check out results here:

http://cnet.nytimes.com/Netgear_WPN824_RangeMax/4505-3319_7-31312124-2.html

and this excellent review site gives many reviews and a summary for the
two routers in question:

http://www.consumersearch.com/www/computers/wireless-router-reviews/fullstory.html


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

"playlist" and "now playing" are one and the same. 
One would need a "now playing" and a separate memory location for the
building of a playlist.


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

OK - so we're on the same page now.

Our UI has a notion of:

- Your music collection
- "Now Playing" - whats, uh, now playing.
- Saved playlists

It does not have a way to play something without changing "now
playing".

What you _can_ do though is add a single song to the "now playing"
queue, listen to it, and then remove it if you don't like it. The
system does actually do what you want, just maybe not at first glance. 
:)

The task you're asking the UI to provide seems reasonable enough, but I
think it would be extremely confusing if there were essentially another
layer on top of "now playing" for what's "now NOW playing".  Can you
think of a better way to express this operation than the "add/remove"
interface provided?


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

radish Wrote: 
> Of course it would also be nice if b&m stores stocked the SB2. Why they
> don't I can't tell you, but I assume it's to do with margins & supply
> contracts. I was in best buy today and saw at least 2 people buying a
> certain tubular music player. So sad.


I was real close to buying one but just couldn't do it knowing that
they are basing it off of SB.  I still can't get the softsqueeze player
to work.  I installed it and it just says connecting to slimserver and
the slimserver says connetcing to squeezebox.  

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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

Once again for clarification. I want to be able to audition a song and
then place in on a playlist (from the remote). I want to be able to go
through this process with successive songs and make a playlist from the
listening chair. It doesn't appear that can be done. 

Ps Changing the server setting as described above doesn't help because
as soon as you play a song it goes on the now playing/playlist. I want
to be able to decide to put it there.


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

seanadams Wrote: 
> I think I misunderstood your question.
> 
> You want to play a song without changing the current playlist (that is,
> alas, the whole notion of "Now Playing" as designed)
> 
> So no, you can't do that... But if you can think of a reasonable user
> interface for doing this (that wouldn't be confusing to beginners) we
> could consider adding it.

No, you were right the first time. I want to quickly listen to the
beginning of song to see if I want it, and then add it to a playlist. I
basicly want to be able to build one from my listening chair, settle
back and fall asleep.


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread radish

Of course it would also be nice if b&m stores stocked the SB2. Why they
don't I can't tell you, but I assume it's to do with margins & supply
contracts. I was in best buy today and saw at least 2 people buying a
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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

I only see an add button. Is there a way to delete tracks from the
remote?


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

Yay!!
Thanx guys.


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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

I think I misunderstood your question.

You want to play a song without changing the current playlist (that is,
alas, the whole notion of "Now Playing" as designed)

So no, you can't do that... But if you can think of a reasonable user
interface for doing this (that wouldn't be confusing to beginners) we
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[slim] Re: The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

That is by design, but you can change it.

Go to Server Settings -> Behavior

change "Play other songs in album" to "play only selected song"


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Re: [slim] Re: Click and drag playlist items in web interface?

2005-07-31 Thread Jacob Potter
On 7/31/05, Mitch G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then I'm confused.
> I thought the thread and the skin was about being able to build up a
> playlist by dragging and dropping items.
> 
> Is that not the case?

You can change the order of songs in the playlist by drag-and-drop (in
the ExBrowse2 skin), but not add songs.

I'm starting on a complete rework of the SlimServer <-> ExBrowse2 skin
communication (JSON-RPC, rather than generic plain-old-XML), so
eventually things like dragging from the music library will be
possible. Don't hold your breath, though :)

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Re: [slim] The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread Jacob Potter
On 7/31/05, gdg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just got the SB2. I noticed that I can't audition a song and then add
> too or create a playlist from the remote. The problem is that as soon
> as one plays a song the entire album is added to "now
> playing/playlist".

Server Settings -> Behavior -> "Play other songs in album".

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[slim] The SB2 appears to have some serious flaws!

2005-07-31 Thread gdg

I just got the SB2. I noticed that I can't audition a song and then add
too or create a playlist from the remote. The problem is that as soon
as one plays a song the entire album is added to "now
playing/playlist". Of course if the song is not playing it can be added
but then one has to know all the songs ahead of time in order to create
a playlist from the listening position. That's annoying
Am I missing something?

Ps That's in addition to the fact that one can't modify and then
overwrite an existing playlist. It must be renamed and the previous one
deleted.  :(


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[slim] Re: MusicMagic - bizarre mixes..

2005-07-31 Thread MeSue

Dan Goodinson Wrote: 
> I bought a 1-year subscription, does that allow me access to the beta
> download?

No, you have to ask to join the beta program. See
http://forums.predixis.com/index.php?showtopic=646

> The ID3v2 tags are pretty good, but the ID3v1.1 are in a bit of a state.
> Do you know whether MM works off v1.1 or v2 tags?

I don't know, but I know a lot of taggers offer an option to copy from
ID3v2 to ID3v1.1 and vice versa. I use Music Library (from
wensoftware.com) which hasn't been updated in ages, and may be
abandonware, but it is still better then most other taggers I have
looked at.

You might need to add -slim to the commandline when you launch MMM if
you want to be able to send mixes directly to SlimServer from MMM. (see
http://forums.predixis.com/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=734)


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread Kevin O. Lepard

One thing I wanted to do was test out the slimserver.  Even if I
couldn't play anything.  I am going to use use another media player to
browse my library and then transfer them to the slimserver and I wanted
to get an idea of how easy or difficult this would be.  Can I get the
slimserver interface to pull up without having the squeezebox?


Sure.  And you can "try" the Squeezebox via SoftSqueeze.

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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

seanadams Wrote: 
> It sounds like you need it to do something very specific - from your
> handle I'm guessing 48KHz, or something editing related?   :)

nothing special just the reason why SB was created to have a more
convenient way to play music.  I am using Jriver mediacenter as my
library browser and I am pretty much tied to it's interface so I just
need an easy way to stream music from my laptop.


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[slim] Re: Click and drag playlist items in web interface?

2005-07-31 Thread Mitch G

Then I'm confused.
I thought the thread and the skin was about being able to build up a
playlist by dragging and dropping items.

Is that not the case?


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RE: [slim] Re: MusicMagic - bizarre mixes..

2005-07-31 Thread Dan Goodinson
Thanks Sue.

I think I have the latest version, buy will see if I can download a beta
version.  I bought a 1-year subscription, does that allow me access to
the beta download?

Damn - I was kind of hoping that MM would bypass my messed up genres.
I've been chipping away at it for ages, but lots of the genres are still
not right.  The ID3v2 tags are pretty good, but the ID3v1.1 are in a bit
of a state.  Do you know whether MM works off v1.1 or v2 tags?

I'll check out the options in the application - that sound like the best
way forward.  Thanks for the tip!

Dan.

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The latest beta of MMM (1.1.6) has an Exclude option where you can
designate exclusions for the library, analysis, and/or mixes. This
should do what you want. As far as I can tell, even though the excluded
songs show the 'MM' in SlimServer's Web interface, they are not included
in any mixes.

If you don't have access to the beta, for now you can generate your
mixes in the MMM GUI and send them to your SB as a playlist. There are a
lot more options for refining the mix in the MMM interface (with trial
key or paid version). Hopefully more of these options (ratings,
filters) will make it into the SlimServer plugin eventually.  You also
might want to check your Genre tags  - it seems to weight that more than
anything else.

I seem to have the opposite problem. Mixes I generate from the
SlimServer web panel are limited to the seed song genre, even with a
setting of 0 for mix style. In the MMM GUI I get a much more diverse mix
for the same seed song. Go figure...


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

It sounds like you need it to do something very specific - from your
handle I'm guessing 48KHz, or something editing related?   :)


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

pfarrell Wrote: 
> On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:36 -0700, datdude wrote:
> > One thing I wanted to do was test out the slimserver.  
> 
> So install it, its free.
> And use SoftSqueeze on just about any platform in the world.
> All free. No obligation.
> 
> Then buy a SBx and love it. I've bought three.
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I got you.  I thought the softsqueeze was to used in place of the
slimserver. duh...


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RE: [slim] MusicMagic - bizarre mixes..

2005-07-31 Thread Howard Darwen
most of the mixes i get out are pretty spot on ... there are occasional
tracks that are missplaced, but i just live with it.

one thing i have done is put stuff i don't want included in MMM mixes in a
separate folder so that they don't get picked up by MMM - but slim can still
see them. i do this mainly on mix albums where i don't want individual mixed
tracks popping up in a play list, but you could handle embarassing stuff in
that way too.

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Recently got MusicMagic plugin up and running, and wondering if anyone
can share some MM experiences with me?

On the whole, I'm finding it pretty cool: it's generating some decent
mixes for "middle of the road" stuff, but it seems to generate some
unusual mixes for "on the edge" sort of stuff.

e.g. if I go for a mix around some mainstream indie music (think Oasis,
Coldplay, Travis - and you've got the general idea), it works like a
charm.  But if I go for a mix around some metal (think Helmet, Quarashi,
Pantera etc) then it throws in a fair bit of techno-dance, and some
embarrassing pop.  Similarly, if I go for a hard-house type mix it
throws in quite a lot of embarrassing pop.

When I say "embarrassing pop" I mean that I've got a "Best Chart Hits in
the world... Ever!!" album that I bought in a moment of madness.
Among a couple of half decent tracks, there's some absolute dirge -
including a kind half-hearted-attempt-at-reggae track by Boy George
which is just shameful.  Particularly shameful when it turns up in a mix
of hard-house/trace.  In fact, MM seems to love this Boy George track
and keeps trying to sneak it in to almost any mix I request which is a
bit irritating.  I dare say it would fit quite well with something like
UB40, for example.  But I can't understand why MM tries to stick it in
the middle of a punk-metal mix or a dangerously hard house mix.

I've played with a few of the settings on the SB web panel (e.g.
"MusicMagic mix style" at the max value of 200) but there seems to be
only a marginal improvement.

Also, MM application was running for nearly 2 days and has complete
analysis - all tracks are apparently verified, and I rebooted the server
and got slimserver to rescan the music library.  As far as I can tell,
everything is as it should be on the slimserver side - any settings I
can play with in the MM application?  I kind of loathe to delete stuff
from my music library just for this purpose.  Even if I don't like a
some of the music, it goes against the whole idea of squeezebox to
delete tracks here and there.

Cheers!
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Re: [slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread Pat Farrell
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:36 -0700, datdude wrote:
> One thing I wanted to do was test out the slimserver.  

So install it, its free.
And use SoftSqueeze on just about any platform in the world.
All free. No obligation.

Then buy a SBx and love it. I've bought three.

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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

Jeff52 Wrote: 
> There is a no questions asked 30 day satisfaction guarantee, so what do
> you have to lose? If you don't like it, place it back in the box and
> ship it back. 
> 
> You WILL love it though so a return will not happen.


One thing I wanted to do was test out the slimserver.  Even if I
couldn't play anything.  I am going to use use another media player to
browse my library and then transfer them to the slimserver and I wanted
to get an idea of how easy or difficult this would be.  Can I get the
slimserver interface to pull up without having the squeezebox?


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[slim] Re: Turning Crossfade on and off

2005-07-31 Thread chrisgeary

yep.. it is.. and it works brilliantly!


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[slim] Re: MusicMagic - bizarre mixes..

2005-07-31 Thread MeSue

The latest beta of MMM (1.1.6) has an Exclude option where you can
designate exclusions for the library, analysis, and/or mixes. This
should do what you want. As far as I can tell, even though the excluded
songs show the 'MM' in SlimServer's Web interface, they are not included
in any mixes.

If you don't have access to the beta, for now you can generate your
mixes in the MMM GUI and send them to your SB as a playlist. There are
a lot more options for refining the mix in the MMM interface (with
trial key or paid version). Hopefully more of these options (ratings,
filters) will make it into the SlimServer plugin eventually.  You also
might want to check your Genre tags  — it seems to weight that more
than anything else.

I seem to have the opposite problem. Mixes I generate from the
SlimServer web panel are limited to the seed song genre, even with a
setting of 0 for mix style. In the MMM GUI I get a much more diverse
mix for the same seed song. Go figure…


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread Jeff52

datdude Wrote: 
> I was thinking of buying a Roku(available locally), Squeezebox looks
> much better though.  Why should I assume this and go and buy it online?

There is a no questions asked 30 day satisfaction guarantee, so what do
you have to lose? If you don't like it, place it back in the box and
ship it back. 

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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

seanadams Wrote: 
> Why not ask if someone in San Diego wants to give you a demo, instead of
> offering to put your local retailer through a needless expense?

Needless, well I would pay a little more to be able to buy it NOW.  I
think thats why alot of .com's went uder becuase local stores are still
local stores and have all the advantages that come with them.

To each his own.

If anyone would like to demo it for me, I'll bring the refreshments.


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[slim] Re: Feature request: Brightness timer

2005-07-31 Thread MeSue

Sounds great… thank you!


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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread max . spicer

I don't know your exact requirements, but you may find that SoftSqueeze
serves to answer a lot of your questions about how the SqueezeBox will
work.  It will show you pretty much everything except for audio
quality, network performance etc.

Max

datdude Wrote: 
> I don't know if the Squeezebox will work the way I am hoping and the
> only way to know is to try it out.  If I don't like it then I will
> return it.  This is difficult to do when purchasing online.  I live in
> San Diego and no one (Fry's, CompUSA, Best Buy, or Circuit City) sells
> it.  Does anyone know of a brick and mortar store that sells the
> Squeezebox?
> 
> Thanks


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[slim] Re: Feature request: Brightness timer

2005-07-31 Thread tgoldstone

That makes sense.  The sleep timer code is probably looking at the
default preferences when it triggers and steps on the temporary
brightness setting.  I could add an additional option to the plugin
that would change the 'Off' display brightness to '0' while the display
should be off and then return it back to whatever it was originally set
to when the display turns back on.  I'm in the process of creating a
web interface for this plugin and could add the additional option
button there. Does anyone have a better idea?


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[slim] MusicMagic - bizarre mixes..

2005-07-31 Thread Dan Goodinson
Recently got MusicMagic plugin up and running, and wondering if anyone
can share some MM experiences with me?

On the whole, I'm finding it pretty cool: it's generating some decent
mixes for "middle of the road" stuff, but it seems to generate some
unusual mixes for "on the edge" sort of stuff.

e.g. if I go for a mix around some mainstream indie music (think Oasis,
Coldplay, Travis - and you've got the general idea), it works like a
charm.  But if I go for a mix around some metal (think Helmet, Quarashi,
Pantera etc) then it throws in a fair bit of techno-dance, and some
embarrassing pop.  Similarly, if I go for a hard-house type mix it
throws in quite a lot of embarrassing pop.

When I say "embarrassing pop" I mean that I've got a "Best Chart Hits in
the world... Ever!!" album that I bought in a moment of madness.
Among a couple of half decent tracks, there's some absolute dirge -
including a kind half-hearted-attempt-at-reggae track by Boy George
which is just shameful.  Particularly shameful when it turns up in a mix
of hard-house/trace.  In fact, MM seems to love this Boy George track
and keeps trying to sneak it in to almost any mix I request which is a
bit irritating.  I dare say it would fit quite well with something like
UB40, for example.  But I can't understand why MM tries to stick it in
the middle of a punk-metal mix or a dangerously hard house mix.

I've played with a few of the settings on the SB web panel (e.g.
"MusicMagic mix style" at the max value of 200) but there seems to be
only a marginal improvement.

Also, MM application was running for nearly 2 days and has complete
analysis - all tracks are apparently verified, and I rebooted the server
and got slimserver to rescan the music library.  As far as I can tell,
everything is as it should be on the slimserver side - any settings I
can play with in the MM application?  I kind of loathe to delete stuff
from my music library just for this purpose.  Even if I don't like a
some of the music, it goes against the whole idea of squeezebox to
delete tracks here and there.

Cheers!
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[slim] Re: Click and drag playlist items in web interface?

2005-07-31 Thread JJZolx

Mitch G Wrote: 
> I hate being such a moron, but I can't figure out how to drag and drop
> tracks (or albums) into a playlist.
> Can someone give me or point me to a little tutorial?
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[slim] Re: Click and drag playlist items in web interface?

2005-07-31 Thread Mitch G

I hate being such a moron, but I can't figure out how to drag and drop
tracks (or albums) into a playlist.
Can someone give me or point me to a little tutorial?


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Re: [slim] Re: My Router problems are fixed!!

2005-07-31 Thread Kevin O. Lepard
I know we've wandered really off-topic here, but does anyone have any 
experience comparing the Belkin pre-n router with the Netgear 
RangeMax?  I'm thinking about upgrading my wireless router.  It would 
have to function in a mixed b/g environment preferably without 
degrading the g clients to b speeds.


Thanks for your thoughts.

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[slim] Re: Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

Why not ask if someone in San Diego wants to give you a demo, instead of
offering to put your local retailer through a needless expense?


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[slim] Where can I buy a Squeezebox locally?

2005-07-31 Thread datdude

I don't know if the Squeezebox will work the way I am hoping and the
only way to know is to try it out.  If I don't like it then I will
return it.  This is difficult to do when purchasing online.  I live in
San Diego and no one (Fry's, CompUSA, Best Buy, or Circuit City) sells
it.  Does anyone know of a brick and mortar store that sells the
Squeezebox?

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[slim] softsqueeze

2005-07-31 Thread scarabnet
 I spent a lot of time looking for, and found this answer to my
Softsqueeze problem on a forum for another java application.  I thought
it might help some other Squeezebox 2/Softsqueeze user:

After upgrading my Fedora Core 3 kernel to 2.6.12-1.1372_FC3, my
softsqueeze package quit working, giving the following error:

java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument or cannot assign requested
address

Fedora Core 4 users are reporting the same problem.  It turns out, Java
and the application are confused about which IP version (IPv4, or IPv6)
to use, when IPv6 is available on the OS.  The solution is to add the
following argument to the java command in the softsqueeze script (if
you're using the rpm version), or your java startup command (if you're
using the Platform-Independent zipped version:  

-Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true

The details are here:

  http://www.jroller.com/page/dissonance/20050630#fedora_core_4_and_jdk

Hope this saves someone some time!



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[slim] Re: 100 years of progress

2005-07-31 Thread Craig

max.spicer Wrote: 
> I think I'll add those mp3s to my collection - they'll be a good suprise
> when I play everything at random!
> 
> Max

In that case you'll be needing cover art
http://www.the-solicitors-band.co.uk/craig/record.jpg
http://www.the-solicitors-band.co.uk/craig/label.jpg

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[slim] Re: Feature request: Brightness timer

2005-07-31 Thread MeSue

I did some experiments and as far as I can tell, if "Brightness when
off" is set to anything but 0 (Dark), then the display comes back on
when the sleep timer ends and the player turns off. It does it whether
brightness adjustment is set to manual or automatic.


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[slim] Multiple Kids -> Mulitple Libraries -> Dad is Tired

2005-07-31 Thread bwenzlau

With 3 kids and a dad we have 4 music libraries. We have a server that
aggregates the 4 libraries, and have two slim devices. Weekly they are
asking me to resynch, or to help with why the play lists do not show up
on the SlimDevices. They of course also need to synch to their portable
players.

I am basically looking for experiences dealing with this landscape,
trying to come up with a more manageable solution.

- Should we cut out the "local" (laptop copies) of the libraries and
work it all server based? (Perhaps this is the way to go)
- How have others obtained "regimitation" of tagging? Each kid has his
own tags, so the aggregated tags are a mess on the server.
- When we synch, the playlists have four different locations (one per
subdirectory), but the slim device expects there to be one locaation.
How can playlists be better coordinated?

If this is the wrong forum, my apologies.
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[slim] Re: Mac iTunes Library Problems

2005-07-31 Thread nano2nd

Hi,

I had what sounds like the same problem. Have you tried a "Wipe Cache"
and a rescan? 

After checking paths, permissions, rescans etc this is what finally
fixed it for me.

You never know...


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[slim] Player stopping rather than pausing when switched off

2005-07-31 Thread Robin Cooksey
In 6.1.1, players seem to stop rather than pause when switched off.
I.e. when switched back on they say "Stopped", rather than "Paused",
and they have reverted back to the start of the track; rather than
starting at the same position in the track when play is pressed.

I observe this on all players (all of Slimp3, Squeezebox, Squeezebox2
and Softsqueeze), and I've checked with the server running on Linux,
as well as a clean Windows install.  Tracks are MP3s in all cases.

Is this an intentional change in behaviour?  Is there any way to get
the previous behaviour back (with an option, if this was an
intentional change)?

Cheers,
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[slim] Re: Softsqueeze Headless Mode Fedora FC3

2005-07-31 Thread Vimes

Richard, Thanks for the help. Still no luck though. I just get the info
message about preferences and then it seems to be running (via ps ax on
another terminal) but doens't seem to be recognized by slimserver.
There's no error.log in /opt/softsqueeze either. Is there anywhere else
I can look for errors? 

As a side note, if I run softsqueeze on my windows PC it works fine, is
picked up immediatly etc. Thanks again...seems like I'm missing
something obvious.


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[slim] Squeezebox/Slim Server Mismatch

2005-07-31 Thread Guy

My Squeezebox is not displaying eveything that is in the database on my
Slim Server, I know of one Artist that is displayed twice (both entries
spelt the same) and one of the albums by that artist is not displayed at
all (under either artist entry) no amount of rescanning makes any
difference (with or without clearing the library).  Is there any cached
data on the Squeezebox that I could clear?

Any suggestions?

My set up is as follows: Windows Server 2003, Slim Server 6.1.1,
Squeezebox 2


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[slim] Re: Feature request: Brightness timer

2005-07-31 Thread MeSue

tgoldstone Wrote: 
> The plugin will turn the display off but certain activities will turn it
> back on… I'll play with 6.1.1 today and see if I can break it. :)

How did it go? Last week I reinstalled 6.1.1 and removed most of the
plug-ins. Things have been working fine for several days so I decided
to add AutoDisplay.pm back in last night. 

I set it to turn the display off at 2 AM, and on at 8 AM. At 2 AM I was
still awake and I saw it go off. Shortly thereafter, I pressed the sleep
button twice and went to sleep. In the middle of the night the display
came on. I used the remote to turn it back off. When I woke up again
around 10 it was on so I guess it came on at 8 as scheduled. 

But why does it come on in the middle of the night? Do you think when
the sleep timer ends and it goes into standby it is turning it back on?
(I'll try to test this theory later.) Could I be the only one who uses
it in conjunction with the sleep timer? In player settings > display, I
have automatic display brightness set to adjust brightness manually, if
that makes any difference.


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Re: [slim] Re: Lifespan of SB2 display

2005-07-31 Thread Marc Sherman

seanadams wrote:


And a boat to ride it on?


Well, that goes without saying.  We'll be needing the boat, what with 
rising sea levels and all.


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[slim] Re: Lifespan of SB2 display

2005-07-31 Thread seanadams

Marc Sherman Wrote: 
> kdf wrote:
> > 
> > 15 years from now, who knows :) but, by then you'll have a 
> > SqueezeBoxUltraGX900B15 which will be embedded in your thumbnail
> with
> > a UI projected via neurostimuli direct to the retina.
> 
> And a pony.
> 
> - Marc :)

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Re: [slim] Lifespan of SB2 display

2005-07-31 Thread Marc Sherman

kdf wrote:


15 years from now, who knows :) but, by then you'll have a 
SqueezeBoxUltraGX900B15 which will be embedded in your thumbnail with

a UI projected via neurostimuli direct to the retina.


And a pony.

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Re: [slim] Lifespan of SB2 display

2005-07-31 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi,

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   kdf<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> only after you get a flying car... ;)

My car's quick, but doesn't quite fly :)

Andy

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Re: [slim] Stopping killed server

2005-07-31 Thread kdf
Quoting Robin Bowes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 2005-07-31 09:21:38.601774500 EOF instead of response status line at
> /usr/local/
> slim-svn-6/server/CPAN/Net/HTTP/Methods.pm line 300.
> 2005-07-31 09:21:38.601782500   ...propagated at
> /usr/local/slim-svn-6/server/CP
> AN/Net/HTTP/NB.pm line 32.
> 2005-07-31 09:21:38.970328500
> Slim::Player::Playlist::clearExecuteCommandCallbac
> k() will be removed in SlimServer v6.2 - please update your plugins.
>
>
> Not sure if this will help anybody debug.

The only time I have seen that error, it was caused by the Scrobbler plugin.  It
should have been fixed in the most recent release/cvs.

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Re: [slim] Lifespan of SB2 display

2005-07-31 Thread kdf
Quoting Andy Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi,
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>kdf<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 15 years from now, who knows :) but, by then you'll have a
> > SqueezeBoxUltraGX900B15 which will be embedded in your thumbnail with a
> > UI projected via neurostimuli direct to the retina.
>
> Promise? :)
>
only after you get a flying car... ;)
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[slim] Stopping killed server

2005-07-31 Thread Robin Bowes

Hi,

I'm running slimserver on Fedora Core 4.

I left a track paused overnight, then stopped it this morning (turned 
the player off). Sometime later, slimserver died.


This is the log:

2005-07-31 08:59:04.759859500 2005-07-31 08:59:04.7349 
00:04:20:05:b6:5b: Switch

ing to mode stop from pause
2005-07-31 08:59:04.759862500 2005-07-31 08:59:04.7359 00:04:20:05:b6:5b 
New pla

y mode: stop
2005-07-31 08:59:04.759864500 2005-07-31 08:59:04.7369 Stopping and 
clearing out

 old chunks for client 00:04:20:05:b6:5b
2005-07-31 08:59:04.759867500 2005-07-31 08:59:04.7391 Resetting song queue
2005-07-31 08:59:04.759869500 2005-07-31 08:59:04.7402 Song queue is now 7
2005-07-31 08:59:04.759879500 2005-07-31 08:59:04.7415 
00:04:20:05:b6:5b: Curren

t playmode: stop
2005-07-31 09:21:38.601774500 EOF instead of response status line at 
/usr/local/

slim-svn-6/server/CPAN/Net/HTTP/Methods.pm line 300.
2005-07-31 09:21:38.601782500   ...propagated at 
/usr/local/slim-svn-6/server/CP

AN/Net/HTTP/NB.pm line 32.
2005-07-31 09:21:38.970328500 
Slim::Player::Playlist::clearExecuteCommandCallbac

k() will be removed in SlimServer v6.2 - please update your plugins.


Not sure if this will help anybody debug.

R.

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[slim] SlimServer ignoring iTunes library tags??

2005-07-31 Thread jhurley

This is probably a really dumb question or issue, so I apologies in
advance.

I'm not a developer, but I love my Squeezebox, and manage to muddle
through getting it to work with iTunes and the iTunesUpdate plugin.

I'm also a real stickler for uniformity and accuracy in my music
library.  I pride myself on the way in which my library is tagged (sort
of obsessive compulsive if you get my drift).

My library is used by both MusicMatch JB10 and iTunes 4.9 and I work
hard to synchronise the both of them - my MMJB use is a pre-iTunes
hangup I cannot shake off, I use it when listening to music at my PC
rather than itunes, then use iTunes as the tool to run the slim library
and the interface to my iPods.

You'll understand therefore how frustrating it is to see incorrect
information in my Slimserver library.

Example.

I added an album today to MMJB, updated the tags, added it to iTunes,
did a rescan in SlimServer (with wipe) and was suprised to see the
SlimServer library showing different information to both MMJB and
iTunes.

In this case, it was a compilation album and I had changed the Artists
tag to "Various Artists".  This is OK in both applications, but
SlimServer is ignoring this and showing the individual artists in the
library with a track each as it was originally tagged.

Is this a cache issue? - I've been reading on other threads that the
'wipe' isn't really a wipe.

Is it a multiple tag issue - it is showing both ID3v1.1 and ID3v2.3
tags as used, but I don't have a tool that'll show me the data held in
each version, to see if it's different - surely it would use the iTunes
information anyway?

Any ideas at all?

Jon,

SlimServer v6.1b2 (about to u/g to 6.1.2)
PC WinXP
Squeezbox 1
MMJB 10
iTunes 4.9
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Re: [slim] Re: My Router problems are fixed!!

2005-07-31 Thread Philip Meyer
>except when you get one that insists on resetting itself every 15-30 
>minutes :(
>it, well at least mine, also suffers from overheating
I have had similar problems with my Belkin ADSL Router(s).

My original 7630 was great for the first year.  Then I had nothing but 
problems.  I think it didn't discipate heat very well - the metal heatsink was 
on the bottom of the unit, so heat would rise up through it.  I found it 
slightly more stable when I ran the unit upside down!  It got to a point where 
my ADSL downspeed was running at 40% of maximum, if I had wireless enabled.

>on the upside, the tech support isn't bad at all, once you get past 
>level 1.
>
After lots of calls and chats on their instant messaging web component, they 
agreed to replace the unit.  This was good service - they don't make the 7630 
any more, so they gave me the newest equivalent, a 7633.  They even agreed to 
send me the new one, before I sent the old one back, and then paid for return 
delivery.

However, the 7633 is giving me more grief than the 7630.  DHCP doesn't seem to 
work too well, Port Forwarding doesn't seem to work if I redirect to different 
ports, Web Management allows anyone to see details about the router, such as 
SSID, encryption type, etc, before they are requested to enter a password.  The 
firmware is much worse than the model from 2 years ago (in fact, the help pages 
in the firmware are still for the previous model!).

Phil

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[slim] Re: Skipping/seeking no longer working in 6.1

2005-07-31 Thread gurpal2000

radish Wrote: 
> It's already in - http://www.slimdevices.com/su_changelog.html - 6.1.1
> was released a couple of days ago.

Well I installed this and it's still not working like before (6.0.2).
There is a noticeable delay before the skipping actually starts. What
is going on with the codebase? Is anyone doing any thorough testing?


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Re: [slim] Lifespan of SB2 display

2005-07-31 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi,

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   kdf<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 15 years from now, who knows :) but, by then you'll have a 
> SqueezeBoxUltraGX900B15 which will be embedded in your thumbnail with a 
> UI projected via neurostimuli direct to the retina.

Promise? :)

Andy

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[slim] Re: How do I get Korean songs to play?

2005-07-31 Thread kbelinski

Many of my FLAC collections are made up of filenames in the Chinese
Language. They were tagged in the cue sheet in the Chinese language
too. The SlimServer has no problem displaying them in the Web UI.
However, the SB2 does not yet support the display of Chinese
characters. It plays them fine though. Non-latin characters are
displayed as "?" in the SB2.


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