Re: [slim] Squeezebox Delivery via Logitech

2008-05-10 Thread pablolie

i was in Fry's in San Jose today (reveals me as a geek) and they had a
duet just  there in the shelf. i could not help myself, even though i
own 3 SB3s (or because of that!) i got one. on the spot. i'll post my
impressions, as i am hooking up to the Accuphase mainsystem today...


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Re: [slim] Infobrowser addons ,etc

2008-05-10 Thread ipxlittle

bpa;300875 Wrote: 
> I didn't do the UK tv listing  but here is a link to some of the others
> 
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=297491&postcount=45

bpa - I tried the RadioParadise addon and when I initially unzipped
into server/plugins/InfoBrowser it wasn't showing up in the Infobrowser
submenu
on the SB3. I then unzipped to
server/plugins/InfoBrowser/RecentlyPlayedRadioParadise. I got an entry
called
"Name" and error "cannot requst non HTTP-url"

any ideas what I'm doing wrong. Should this work ok with SC7 ?

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Re: [slim] Best Way to Globally customise menus

2008-05-10 Thread peterw

nolan;300863 Wrote: 
> The only thing that confused me was when I ticked the 'server' box and
> overwrote my player name settings but that was quickly resolved!

Eek. Yeah, that's a bug -- it should know better than to copy that, and
a number of other settings. I just released "7a3" which seems to have
that bug fixed.

Sorry for the trouble, and thanks for letting me know!


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Re: [slim] Infobrowser addons ,etc

2008-05-10 Thread ipxlittle

Many thanks bpa !

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Re: [slim] Infobrowser addons ,etc

2008-05-10 Thread bpa

I didn't do the UK tv listing  but here is a link to some of the others

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=297491&postcount=45


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Re: [slim] Infobrowser addons ,etc

2008-05-10 Thread ipxlittle

bpa;300847 Wrote: 
> There is a new wiki and I think it doesn't support attachments on pages
> 
> There was a post that Wikiradio will be back soon in some form but no
> news about Infobrowser.

Many thanks bpa !
Are you the author of some of the infobrowser add-ons?
Is it possible to PM me with a link to them while the hiatus exists
with the new wiki ?

I'd love to try out the UK tv listings addon,etc.

Slainte
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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread Phil Meyer
>I don't think that's quite right; if I understood JJZolx having
>ALBUMARTIST set and COMPILATION=0 is when things break.  I have *no*
>COMPILATION tags set, and it works for me.

I was trying to say that if there is an album artist, then compilation tags 
should be ignored.  i.e if there is an album artist and compilation=1, it 
shouldn't be considered a compilation album.

Here's another go at explaining things a bit further:

Guest artists on a compilation album have track artist role and thus are 
suppressed if "Group compilation albums together" is selected.

Should guest artists on an album that has an album artist be suppressed in the 
same way?  I'm not sure there's a clear-cut answer to that question.  If so, 
the album wouldn't be a compilation, so the label text should read something 
more generic like "Suppress guest artists from artist list".

If an album has guest artists and SC guesses that an album is a compilation and 
the user wants to override this, we think they should do so by setting an album 
artist.  That would by result in Compilation=NULL, and track artist roles would 
be set for all artists.  Thus the "Group compilation albums together" option 
would suppress guest artists.

However, some users have already overridden the logic by setting compilation=0 
rather than setting an album artist, and as a result all artists have lead 
performer (1) contributor roles.  If the scanner were changed such that 
compilation=0 were to always cause track artist roles, then what artist would 
you expect to find the album listed under?  It wouldn't be a compilation, so 
wouldn't appear under various artists, and track artists could be suppressed 
and there wouldn't be any lead artists.  I think that is why compilation=0 
always causes artist (1) roles.  The album would be listed under each 
individual artist (they are not regarded as guest performers).  This isn't so 
bad for Browse Artists, but confusing for Browse Albums by Artist as the album 
is listed under one arbitrary artist.

It appears that at the moment the user has a choice:

1. Set an album artist and no compilation tag - guest artists can be suppressed 
from browse artists.
2. Set an album artist and compilation=0  - guest artists are never suppressed 
from browse artists.

I think we are agreeing that ARTIST tags should always be stored as track 
artist roles when there is an album artist.
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Re: [slim] Filtering compilation artists from artist browse menu

2008-05-10 Thread friendlyfire

Hi guys, thanks for the tip. 
I found that this only works for files where the COMPILATION tag exists
and is set to 1 by the way.
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Re: [slim] Best Way to Globally customise menus

2008-05-10 Thread nolan

peterw;300662 Wrote: 
> OK, see http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html :-)
> 
> I'd still like to implement a couple ideas I laid out in
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40924
> 1) an API for other plugins (SaverSwitcher could really use that!)
> 2) the ability to drill down and choose specific settings rather than
> simply full namespaces as the plugin currently allows
> Pretty much all the other ideas are in the plugin now.
> Plus it could use some Web cleanup & JavaScript helpers.
> 
> I'd love to hear feedback.
> 
> -Peter

That's excellent. I've just used it to clone the setup on my players
and I like the fact that it can clone the player settings plus the
random mix settings.

The only thing that confused me was when I ticked the 'server' box and
overwrote my player name settings but that was quickly resolved!


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[slim] KKSF 103.7 (Staff Pick)

2008-05-10 Thread Mike White

KKSF in San Francisco (103.7 FM) simply does not work. When you attempt
to connect to it, it always ultimately says "timed out waiting for
data". The same thing happens when trying to connect through
SqueezeCenter. 

Does anyone have a better URL to use?


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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-10 Thread jaw5279

harleyman;300839 Wrote: 
> You've all helped me make my decision, so thanks again.  I just ordered
> a Duet online last night.  Can't wait for it to get here.  I may need
> some help with the set-up, so stayed tuned.

While waiting for your Duet to be delivered, make sure the version of
JAVA on your server/PC/Mac is up to date.  I got very discouraged with
my Duet until I realized I was several versions back on the older PC I
was running SC 7.0. Once updated to current, all of the issues went
away.  This was especially true with using the XM plugin.


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Re: [slim] Infobrowser addons ,etc

2008-05-10 Thread bpa

There is a new wiki and I think it doesn't support attachments on pages

There was a post that Wikiradio will be back soon in some form but no
news about Infobrowser.


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[slim] Infobrowser addons ,etc

2008-05-10 Thread ipxlittle

The link to infobrowser in the Squeezebox wiki seems to be broken.
I can't access the previously mentioned infobrowser addons (eg tv
listings,etc).

Also on the wiki page for wikiradio there doesn't seem to be any
attachments with opml files with radio station collections folks
have collected and shared.

Any idea what's up ?

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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-10 Thread Pat Farrell
harleyman wrote:
> You've all helped me make my decision, so thanks again.

You are welcome.

  >   I may need  some help with the set-up, so stayed tuned.

Start now, so you can be ready to go when it arrives. You can do all of 
the hard stuff while you wait.

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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-10 Thread harleyman

You've all helped me make my decision, so thanks again.  I just ordered
a Duet online last night.  Can't wait for it to get here.  I may need
some help with the set-up, so stayed tuned.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Delivery via Logitech

2008-05-10 Thread jamesmadams

My Duet turned up on Thursday - a week and a half after ordering. It's
not too bad, I suppose, but a bit of communication about stock issues
would have helped to ease the wait. They should take advantage of the
email address you supply on ordering and just drop you a mail if it's
going to take longer than expected.

On a brighter note - the Duet is ace.


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread Greg Klanderman

> Phil Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Yes, I'd agree with that, although I think it's a bit clearer to think of the 
> rule as follows:

> "When the scanner finds and album with an album artist tag, set 
> Compilation=No".

> i.e. the fault is in the scanner that builds the library from scanning source 
> files.

I don't think that's quite right; if I understood JJZolx having
ALBUMARTIST set and COMPILATION=0 is when things break.  I have *no*
COMPILATION tags set, and it works for me.

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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread kdf

slimkid;300768 Wrote: 
> 
> @kdf, I believe you are listening to these discussions through eMail
> and are under wrong impression that this is coming from the developers
> forum. 
> Actually, this is coming form the General forum, and I find your
> assumptions about capabilities of the discussion participants rather
> inappropriate and beside the point since there's no requirement to be
> able to code in order to  engage into discussion.
> 
> K


I'm well aware of where it is coming from (I'm sure your point is much
easier to write when you ignore certain bits of my post where I mention
three threads). Given the core nature of this particular bit of logic,
my statement that no one involved can do anything, stands.  Even with
the ability to merge code, it could not be done without full buy in
from the people who actually make the decisions as to how it should
work.  

If you wish to keep it to one thread, then at least that's a small
mercy for the rest of us. I think you misinterpret the desires of the
OP.  It is not a discussion for the sake of it.  The whole idea
revolves around trying to get a group together to lobby for changes to
the VA logic. Be grateful for the participation of Erland and Phil. 
Even if you disagree with their points, it's your best chance of seeing
a patch, thus the only chance of effecting change.  

I'll now join the majority and go back to quietly ignoring this thread
and it's sibling, hoping that it will all come to a reasonable
conclusion soon.


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread Greg Klanderman

> JJZolx  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, I've figured out the difference

Jim, glad you figured out the issue - you should open a very specific
bug for this.

Btw, I didn't find this post offensive at all especially in relation
to some of the other posts by others in these threads.  Also unlike
most of the rest of these threads we actually figured something out.

And I'm perfectly capable of making code changes, but like Phil,
things are mostly working for me, and I choose to focus the limited
time I have for SC on things I want.  I do try to help out on the
forums a bit to clarify confusion over things I understand.

I agree it has been long and tedious, circular, and with several vocal
posters unwilling to actually listen to what others write.  But
seriously Kevin, if you don't like these threads, just skip them.
Most mail readers should let you just delete the whole thread.
Posting your own venom doesn't really help.

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Re: [slim] SqueezeBox Controller Batter

2008-05-10 Thread ModelCitizen

I've had one of these batteries on order for well over three weeks.
Three days ago I got notification that it is in stock (at last) and
being shipped. I am in the UK and found the only way to get hold of one
was to have a friend in the US order it and ship it over.

Hopefully they are now on sale in Europe too, but I have not seen any
evidence of this.

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Re: [slim] SqueezeBox Controller Batter

2008-05-10 Thread ik632

The part number that they are shipping now is 993-000145 but it's the
same as 190582-.


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Re: [slim] SqueezeBox Controller Batter

2008-05-10 Thread audio53

ik632;300605 Wrote: 
> Just got my Harmony 1000 battery and it fits great and is working.
> 190582- is on the battery so it even matches the original.

Where are these batteries available from? A Google search did not turn
up anything.

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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread Phil Meyer
>- Artist View (Home->Artists): when ALBUMARTIST tag is present in file,
>then regardless of whether the album is compilation or not, it should
>not go into Various Artist area. It should be listed as  by
> and be listed under ALBUMARTISTS in artist list
>(Home->Artists->ALBUMARTIST). Right now compilation albums, even though
>they are displayed as  by , are grouped under
>Home->Artists->Various Artists.
>
Yes, I'd agree with that, although I think it's a bit clearer to think of the 
rule as follows:

"When the scanner finds and album with an album artist tag, set Compilation=No".

i.e. the fault is in the scanner that builds the library from scanning source 
files.

>- Album View (Home->Albims): When album is listed like  by
>, regardless of what is that SOMETHING is, sorting should
>follow the general sorting rule of the list. If it is just by ,
>then everything is OK, if it is by , than 
>should be treated as artist and sort should effectively become
>. Right now, compilations with albumartist are listed
>as by but sorted (ina case of  sort)
>among albums whose artist start with 'V' or are 'Various Artists'.
>
I found this para harder to interpret.  I think it's generally covered by the 
first point though - if there is an album artist, the album should not be 
considered a compilation.  This would fix the second problem (above)?  i.e. 
there should never be an album with an album artist and a Compilation flag - 
they are mutually exclusive.

I think it's important to:
1. Work out what SC currently does.  Perhaps document these rules in the wiki.  
This willl benefit everyone, esp. when yet another thread on the same problems 
comes along in the future!
2. Document any actual clear problems/bugs with these rules.
3. Keep additional enhancement requests separate from (2).

Phil
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Re: [slim] Sharing a server

2008-05-10 Thread jaffacake

Thanks Robin, I was kinda looking at "out of the box" support.


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Re: [slim] Can I Wake-up my PC thru Duet controller??

2008-05-10 Thread MadScientist

At present the Controllers WoL capability is limited.  It's hopefully
being fixed (Bug 5378) for SG 7.1 release.

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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet Accessing UPnP Server

2008-05-10 Thread funkstar

Sorry, I read that as you were able to get the uPnP data while connected
to SC7 but you couldn't connect directly. My mistake :)


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[slim] Can I Wake-up my PC thru Duet controller??

2008-05-10 Thread vitoruch

Dear friends,

One of the most useful features I have in Squeezebox classic, is the
hability to wake up my PC thru the IR remotevery useful for waking
up in the morning and not having to go downstairs and turn on my PC and
get back to bed!

I believe many people uses to save energy turning off the PC when goes
to sleep, instead of keeping it up all the time.

So, my question is: is this nice feature still available in Duet?? 

Thanks!

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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet Accessing UPnP Server

2008-05-10 Thread DWAnderson

funkstar;300725 Wrote: 
> None of the SlimDevices/Logitech products can access uPnP devices
> driectly, they need to connect to either a SqueezeCenter PC on your
> network or SqueezeNetwork over the internet.

Per my post above, I AM connecting through SqueezeCenter. The UPnP
servers show up in Squueze Center, they just don't seem to appear
anywhere in the Duet's interface. 

I have tried both versions 7.0 and 7.1 of the SqueezeCenter software.
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[slim] Slimserver / Transporter stops after 1 song...

2008-05-10 Thread Audiotic

My beautiful Transporter is useless! It stops playing after 1 song, no
matter what...
The counter on the Transporter doen't move during the playing of the
first song, the meters do move (if I make them visible). During the
second song (actually, it repeats the first one) no sound is output,
and no signal is on the Transporter, but the Slimserver says it plays
some music 9somg 1 thus), and the time moves forward, eratically.

I did a xilinx, a factory reset, a clean install of the server software
(7.0.1.
It all started I think after i tried 7.1. Downgrading again didn't
help.

HELP!

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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread slimkid

kdf;300675 Wrote: 
> 
> if anyone comes out of this with a point, please do us all a favour  
> and make it...then kill anyone who keeps muttering on about the same  
> points.
> 
> -k

For the sake of efficiency, I'll skip over your insulting rant and get
to two points I believe everybody here agrees:

- Artist View (Home->Artists): when ALBUMARTIST tag is present in file,
then regardless of whether the album is compilation or not, it should
not go into Various Artist area. It should be listed as  by
 and be listed under ALBUMARTISTS in artist list
(Home->Artists->ALBUMARTIST). Right now compilation albums, even though
they are displayed as  by , are grouped under
Home->Artists->Various Artists.

- Album View (Home->Albims): When album is listed like  by
, regardless of what is that SOMETHING is, sorting should
follow the general sorting rule of the list. If it is just by ,
then everything is OK, if it is by , than 
should be treated as artist and sort should effectively become
. Right now, compilations with albumartist are listed
as by but sorted (ina case of  sort)
among albums whose artist start with 'V' or are 'Various Artists'.

I really hope these two chapters are right to the point.

@kdf, I believe you are listening to these discussions through eMail
and are under wrong impression that this is coming from the developers
forum. Actually, this is coming form the General forum, and I find your
assumptions about capabilities of the discussion participants rather
inappropriate and beside the point since there's no requirement to be
able to code in order to  engage into discussion.

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Re: [slim] squeezebox\centre hanging ...

2008-05-10 Thread meltsheep

It seems some of my flac files are corrupted. This is odd. They are on a
sil 3114 RAID 1 device. Is there any way I can turn on more debug (which
logging settings ?) to see where these problems are ?


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Re: [slim] Sharing a server

2008-05-10 Thread Robin Bowes
jaffacake wrote:
> Thanks to all for the responses.

A few more ideas...

One way to do this would be to run multiple instances of SC. If you want 
to run these on the same box, you would need to use different IPs for 
each instance. You'd probably also want to use a "system-installed" 
MySQL instance (rather than the one that comes with SC) with a separate 
database for each SC instance.

Alternatively, you could run SC on separate machines with the libraries 
mounted remotely.

R.

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Re: [slim] Questions re: bridging with SBR

2008-05-10 Thread Robin Bowes
mflint wrote:
> (For some reason, Net-UDAP couldn't discover the SBR unless it was
> hard-wired to my router)

I wrote the tool specifically to configure a factory-supplied (i.e. no 
config) SBR from a PC without requiring a SBC. Until the SBR is 
configured, it cannot connect to any wireless network (the SBC sets up 
an AdHoc wireless network to connect wirelessly to the SBR) so you won't 
be able to connect to it wirelessly from a PC.

Even when configured, the UDAP protocol is UDP-based so the UDAP source 
(PC) and UDAP destination (SBR) have to be on the same network segment. 
It is possible that it might work across a wireless network, i.e. PC + 
SBR connected to the same wireless network, but I've not tested that and 
don't intend to.

When I get round to releasing it officially, I will write some 
instructions which will begin something like:

Plug SBR into same switch/router as PC
(rest of instructions)

R.

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Re: [slim] Best Way to Globally customise menus

2008-05-10 Thread peterw

Mnyb;300689 Wrote: 
> Why not a user configurable "template" for players not yet connected
> especially "internet" players as softsqueeze or winamp itunes whatever,
> when your connecting from the outside world (not your home net ). Not
> only for the menus, there other player settings i like to have on my
> remote conection.

SettingsManager will automatically apply "Local Default" settings to
new SoftSqueeze clients, and "Web Default" to new WinAmp, etc.
connections. I just tweaked the info Web page to clarify that.
SettingsManager can copy virtually all "per-player" settings (minus
some that don't make sense like setting the player name, current
volume, and power status). You just need to set up one player's config
the way you like it and use SettingsManager to copy its settings to
Local Default or Web Default as appropriate.

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Re: [slim] stream.mp3 tag question

2008-05-10 Thread Empty_One

JJZolx;298820 Wrote: 
> But... It looks like you can:
> 
> - Shut down SqueezeCenter
> - Edit the server.prefs file
> - Modify the 'titleFormat:' and 'titleFormatCurr:' entries for the
> client
> - Restart the server
> 
> The prefs file isn't hard to understand - client sections begin with
> '_client:' then the MAC address or IP address.  The titleFormat: is a
> multiline entry (the formats from which to choose) and titleFormatCurr:
> is a single line, the currently chosen one.
> 
> Look at the Title Formats under Server Settings > Interface > Title
> Format.  If the format yuo want isn't already in the list then add it. 
> Count down (starting with 0) and note the number.  As an example, let's
> say it's 8.  Then edit the title format section in the prefs file to
> read:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > titleFormat: 
  > - 8
  > titleFormatCurr: 0

> > 

Thank you verymuch for this information.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet Accessing UPnP Server

2008-05-10 Thread funkstar

None of the SlimDevices/Logitech products can access uPnP devices
driectly, they need to connect to either a SqueezeCenter PC on your
network or SqueezeNetwork over the internet.


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[slim] squeezebox\centre hanging ...

2008-05-10 Thread meltsheep

This has just started happening to me: latest version of slimserver
7.0.

Its started behaving oddly, playing some music (flac) then there's
noise, the stream starts skipping then just stops with the time elapsed
loops 1.52, 1.53. 1.54, 1.55 back to 1.52.

Have switched on some debug but need some help to understand what is
happening. I've tried several tracks and the problem is the same.

[08-05-10 10:35:04.0004] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream (806) stream
called: t paused: undef format: undef url: undef
[08-05-10 10:35:04.0008] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream (1089)
Starting with decoder with format: m autostart: 1 threshold: 255
samplesize: ? samplerate: ? endian: ? channels: ?
[08-05-10 10:35:04.0013] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream (1122) flags:
0
[08-05-10 10:35:04.0016] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream (1148)
sending strm frame of length: 24 request string: []
[08-05-10 10:35:06.3439] Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP (366) Reading
request...
[08-05-10 10:35:06.3452] Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP (383) HTTP
request: from 127.0.0.1:3406
(Slim::Web::HTTP::ClientConn=GLOB(0x6e2d468)) for POST HTTP/1.1
/jsonrpc.js
[08-05-10 10:35:06.3457] Slim::Web::HTTP::processHTTP (498) Handling
[/jsonrpc.js] using raw function
[08-05-10 10:35:06.3528] Slim::Web::HTTP::sendResponse (1771) Sent 728
to 127.0.0.1:3406
[08-05-10 10:35:06.3531] Slim::Web::HTTP::sendResponse (1777) No more
segments to send to 127.0.0.1:3406
[08-05-10 10:35:06.3537] Slim::Web::HTTP::sendResponse (1729) No
segment to send to 127.0.0.1:3406, waiting for next request...
[08-05-10 10:35:09.0006] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream (806) stream
called: t paused: undef format: undef url: undef
[08-05-10 10:35:09.0010] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream (1089)
Starting with decoder with format: m autostart: 1 threshold: 255
samplesize: ? samplerate: ? endian: ? channels: ?
[08-05-10 10:35:09.0013] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream (1122) flags:
0
[08-05-10 10:35:09.0015] Slim::Player::Squeezebox::stream (1148)
sending strm frame of length: 24 request string: []


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Re: [slim] Help with buying decisoin

2008-05-10 Thread y360

I'm running SC on an old IBM T42 laptop with the music stored on an
external USB MyBook 500GB.
It works just fine.


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread erland

kdf;300681 Wrote: 
> 
> No one taking part is actually capable of DOING anything.  gotta make 
> 
> you wonder.
> 
I'm not sure I agree if you really meant "no one", but if you change it
to "most of the the people" I can agree...

But I do agree that this discussion back and forth where the same
arguments is repeated all over again isn't really moving this any
closer to a solution.


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Re: [slim] iTunes album art in SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 missing

2008-05-10 Thread shlea

Michael,

After I installed iTunesupdate everything has been working fine. That's
why I haven't uploaded the log file. Don't want to start a complete
rescan now that everything works fine.

Thanks anyway for your help!!


Regards,
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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread Phil Meyer
>No one taking part is actually capable of DOING anything.  gotta make  
>you wonder.
I am capable of doing patches, but there's little incentive - things are 
generally working for me (apart from a few minor issues that I've lived with 
for a long time), so I'd be trying to change something in a way that I don't 
use.

>From exploring this thread, I was hoping to come up with a list of things that 
>were not quite right that everyone agrees should be changed.  However, we 
>always seem to go round in circles, and all of the various threads and bugs 
>are now discussing the same issues.

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Re: [slim] Shuffle algorithm

2008-05-10 Thread Toby Dickenson
The random shuffle code is here. Without having worked through all the
details, it looks like it is using mysql to "order by RAND()"

http://svn.slimdevices.com/7.0/trunk/server/Slim/Plugin/RandomPlay/Plugin.pm?revision=19572&view=markup

That is, mysql generates a random number for each matching track then
returns them in the order of those random numbers. Unless I am mistaken
that is not Fisher-Yates?

Anyone know what rng algorithm is used by mysql, and how is it seeded? My
google skills seem to be lacking.


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Re: [slim] Best Way to Globally customise menus

2008-05-10 Thread Mnyb

Why not a user configurable "template" for players not yet connected
especially "internet" players as softsqueeze or winamp itunes whatever,
when your connecting from the outside world (not your home net ). Not
only for the menus, there other player settings i like to have on my
remote conection.

The server seem to remember some settings for my remote streaming's but
it is not user configurable.

And again that old one about file format preferences for every player.


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Re: [slim] When will the Duet be available for purchase in Australia

2008-05-10 Thread japsa1974

All,

My Squeezebox duet arrived on the 9th May - Friday!!!

Cheers


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Re: [slim] Shuffle algorithm

2008-05-10 Thread kmr

pippin;300323 Wrote: 
> Can you describe what a "similar but not identical" random sequence is?
> You are correct, my car radio plays IDENTICAL sequenced. But I don't
> fully understand what you mean, then. To have similar sequences is not
> necessarily a correlation, a correlations means predictability.

Correlation does NOT mean predictability: the most common statistical
meaning of correlation is the Pearson correlation coefficient, which is
what I have been referring to here (see
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CorrelationCoefficient.html if you want
the gory details).  The amount of correlation between two random
variables measures the linear dependence of those two random variables,
but does not imply prediction (the post hoc ergo prompter hoc fallacy).

If I spoke Perl (I don't - I'm a Python hacker), I would dig into the
source and see what RNG gets used for the shuffle.  But I don't feel
like spending the time to learn enough Perl and learn the ins-and-outs
of its RNG(s) to do that right now.  I don't use shuffle mode for
SqueezeCenter much anyway!


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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread kdf
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On 10-May-08, at 12:07 AM, JJZolx wrote:

>
> kdf;300681 Wrote:
>> No one taking part is actually capable of DOING anything.  gotta make
>> you wonder.
>
> This isn't a developer list.
right...list police, good call.

> That no developers take part in this type
> of a discussion is fairly standard.  I don't think that anybody  
> expects
> them to.
>
This is one thread of many that is all on the same subject. Claiming  
that no one expects a solution is just avoiding accountability on your  
part.

> I just learned something because of what someone else said and that's
> worth something to me.  I think that's where the value lies - in
> figuring out the quirks, the bugs, and the general weirdness of how
> SqueezeCenter tries to deal with library cataloging.

ok,  then keep it to one thread.
thanks,
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Re: [slim] Various Artists Logic... is it necessary?

2008-05-10 Thread JJZolx

kdf;300681 Wrote: 
> No one taking part is actually capable of DOING anything.  gotta make
> you wonder.

This isn't a developer list.  That no developers take part in this type
of a discussion is fairly standard.  I don't think that anybody expects
them to.

I just learned something because of what someone else said and that's
worth something to me.  I think that's where the value lies - in
figuring out the quirks, the bugs, and the general weirdness of how
SqueezeCenter tries to deal with library cataloging.


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