Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread damager

Anything new on this?


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Re: [slim] Duet controller - can it show Chinese?

2008-07-25 Thread tomb

'Googling for \duet controller chinese\'
(http://www.google.com/search?q=duet+controller+chinese) brings up 'one
thread' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44890) on this
board that has one possibility to get CJK characters to appear.


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread Zevs

andyg;322547 Wrote: 
 If you are using SC and still having problems with Rhapsody, you will
 need to download tonight's 7.1 nightly build, or listen on
 SqueezeNetwork.

The problem Andy is that there seems to be no files at all in the 7.1
update folder.

Zevs


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread Michael Herger
 The problem Andy is that there seems to be no files at all in the 7.1
 update folder.

Yeah, they're removed too early (hours before the new builds are done). Please 
try again in an hour or so.

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Re: [slim] Duet - wireless SB Receiver problem - Help!

2008-07-25 Thread Skittler

I'm guessing a Factory Reset on the Controller would also have worked,
allowing it to pick up the Receiver. Had you tried that?


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Re: [slim] Network Test: Wireless vs. Homeplug

2008-07-25 Thread Peter


bigfool1956 wrote:

 This is only relevant if the OP is in North America, in the UK and the
 rest of Europe virtually no homes have 2 or 3 phases connected, and if
 they do the cross-phase voltage will be around 440V - which is
 extremely hazardous. Fingers out!
   

I live in Holland (Europe) and I had two phases in my previous home.
I couldn't use my X10 modules in most of the house.

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[slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread ModelCitizen

I know there must be good reason for what seems to me to be
oddities/eccentricities in the SqueezeBox Duet system. If anyone know
whats they are I'd appreciate any enlightenment offered.

1) Why is it not possible to action a player firmware update from the
Squeezebox Controller (SBC) and instead have to find a remote to do
it?

2) Why can't a Squeezebox Receiver (SBR) be configured for a
non-wireless connection without having to resort to a third party (i.e.
non-Logitech) script (SBR Configuration tool)?

Thanks

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Re: [slim] SBC Search hangs SC, SBR, SB, Transporter

2008-07-25 Thread networker

Please let me know if further information or discription is needed...

Thanks in advance


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Re: [slim] What Anti-Virus software do you use

2008-07-25 Thread Louise Straus


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49644

Question: Which Anti-Virus do you use

- Avast
- AVG (free 8.0)
- Avira
- CA E-Trust
- ESET
- Kaspersky
- F-Secure
- McAfee (any version)
- Norton (any version)
- Other or None (please post a response)


I use Bit defender AV 2008


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Re: [slim] Which Random Mix do you use most often?

2008-07-25 Thread Trevor


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: Which Random Mix do you use most often?

- Random songs
- Random artists
- Random albums
- Random years
- No preference, I use several more or less equally


I used to have it on random song but found it rather annoying when it
plays just the intro track of a song then jumps on to something else.
Also I don't like it jumping from something chilled to heavy techno
etc. (I can't be bothered to set genre filters)
Now I have it on random album which is great as it forces me to listen
to some albums I've hardly ever played. If I decide I don't want to
hear the album its chosen I just select random album again.


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread Peter
ModelCitizen wrote:
 I know there must be good reason for what seems to me to be
 oddities/eccentricities in the SqueezeBox Duet system. If anyone know
 whats they are I'd appreciate any enlightenment offered.

 1) Why is it not possible to action a player firmware update from the
 Squeezebox Controller (SBC) and instead have to find a remote to do
 it?
   

You mean an SB3 update? The SBR updates itself AFAIK.
Also there is an IR remote under the SBC factory test menu.
For configuring or updating the SB3's you need the supplied IR.

 2) Why can't a Squeezebox Receiver (SBR) be configured for a
 non-wireless connection without having to resort to a third party (i.e.
 non-Logitech) script (SBR Configuration tool)?
   

It can be configured with the controller. I used it that way when the 
script wasn't even available.

Regards,
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Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread MrSinatra

i think cd/dvd is a fantastic long term backup solution.  sure,
eventually we'll all have terrabyte raid storage in our homes standard,
but i have peace of mind knowing i own the album, (or whatever), and i
frequently enjoy the booklets info in them.


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[slim] Anyone else do this?

2008-07-25 Thread shabbs

Just wondering if I'm the only one... after I load a new version of
SS/SC I update the logo to resort back to the way it was with the
original Slim Devices logo and not the Logitech logo. Heh heh.
Nostalgia I guess... ;)


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread ModelCitizen

Ah, thanks Peter. I think the penny has dropped now.

The third party SBR Configuration tool is aimed at users who have a
Reciever (SBR) but not a Controller (SBC).

I'm interested to know if there is any physical limitation that makes
it impossible for an SBC to action an SB3/Transporter firmware update
over a wireless network (i.e. without resorting to IR and emmulation).
If so, what is it?

MC


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Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread Nonreality

MrSinatra;322870 Wrote: 
 i think cd/dvd is a fantastic long term backup solution.  sure,
 eventually we'll all have terrabyte raid storage in our homes standard,
 but i have peace of mind knowing i own the album, (or whatever), and i
 frequently enjoy the booklets info in them.I don't miss my CD's at all.  I 
 like having them as a backup in boxes
but don't miss them.  I'm glad to get rid of cheap plastic cases that
fall apart, artwork you can hardly see and print that is even worse.  I
now realize I hardly ever even looked at them and cussed them quite a
bit.


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Re: [slim] Anyone else do this?

2008-07-25 Thread autopilot

Im sure your not the only one! But i have so much Logitech stuff in my
house now that i just given up.


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Logitech 5.1.
*Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef Cresta 1's (bedroom) /
Logitech 5.1's.
*Remotes:* Harmony One (IR) / 1 Beta SB Controller / 1 Official SB
Controller. 

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Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread moley6knipe

Good thread.  I still buy CDs, and will continue to do so until the
stuff I like is available as a lossless DRM free download.   So for me
that's loads of Americana (for want of a better word) - Bon Iver,
Silver Jews; stuff like that.

For the moment the best quality I can get is ripping it myself.  As
soon as there's a good download solution for all my tastes CDs are gone
from my life.  TBH things the quality of the Amazon service would be
fine for my amp/speakers, but at least I know I've made my rips as
future-proof as possible doing them bit-perfect lossless.

Agree with the comment about finding it easier to find things on a
server based system - I love being able to put all 15,000 of my tracks
on random, I love all of the internet radio I can get for free with my
SB3, I'm very excited about MIP / LastFM radio  scrobbling which are
my next things to play with!  Can't do that on a CD player.

I did a big move round on the PC t'other day.  SB3 was off for a couple
of hours while I shuttled files around.  My wife desired music.  She
used the CD player, and I realised that was the first time it had been
switched on in about 4 years, since I got my first box, an MP101 (I
know, I didn't know any better...)

As for putting the movie collection on the server, AppleTV is a
fantastic solution.  I don't want to wait 2 minutes while the DVD menu
loads.  I don't (personally) want all of the extras/menus. I want the
film, which is where AppleTV wins out for me.  iTMS is great when used
with AppleTV for movies and TV shows.  Same DRM restrictions as for
music, of course, which may or may not be a problem depending on what
else you'll use your films for.  For me, it's great.  TBH if you're
ripping your DVDs you could always rip them to MPEG and have a dupe
library of MPEG-4 / your format of choice.

1TB drives are down to about £90 in the UK now, so the server approach,
at least for me, is the way to go for everything I listen to or watch.


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Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread autopilot

I personally really hate CD's and im now at a stage where i have not
touched one in about 2 years (ipods in the cars, SB's around the house
and sometimes my mobile). Its not just the convenience, i actually
really hate CD's - they are horrible to hold, horrible look at, scratch
horribly and are a royal pain to store and manage. Tape and Vinyl had a
certain charm, but I dont understand why people are so attached to ugly
old tacky plastic CD's.


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Logitech 5.1.
*Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef Cresta 1's (bedroom) /
Logitech 5.1's.
*Remotes:* Harmony One (IR) / 1 Beta SB Controller / 1 Official SB
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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-25 Thread Trevor

How do I start an enhancement request?


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[slim] Can't save Limiting Bandwith setting !?

2008-07-25 Thread topa

Hi!
I run Squeezecenter 7.1 without any problems except I apparently cannot
save the bandwith limiting figure. I run three SBs, and to reduce
network load want to cut the bandwith of my kitchen SB, where I'll
never notice if it's FLAC or 320kbs MP3.

SC says LAME is apparantly installed  correctly. (I copied lame.exe to
the SC directory, and also to the SV/server and SC/server/bin
directories, cause I couldn't remember where it had to go).

Still, if I pick a setting and press save, the setting will
disappear.

I had this working on Slimserver (6.54) before, and just can't find the
problem source.

Thank you for your help,
Tobi.


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread damager

Is the 7.1 download on the Slim site the nightly build?  Or do I need to
go somewhere else to get it?


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Re: [slim] Can't save Limiting Bandwith setting !?

2008-07-25 Thread Michael Herger
 I run Squeezecenter 7.1 without any problems except I apparently cannot
 save the bandwith limiting figure. I run three SBs, and to reduce
 network load want to cut the bandwith of my kitchen SB, where I'll
 never notice if it's FLAC or 320kbs MP3.

Are some of your players synced?

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Re: [slim] Anyone else do this?

2008-07-25 Thread shabbs

autopilot;322879 Wrote: 
 Im sure your not the only one! But i have so much Logitech stuff in my
 house now that i just given up.
HA! Well, maybe I'm not alone... we'll have to see if anyone else
fesses up. ;)


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[slim] stutter, to a bunch of songs

2008-07-25 Thread viro

Strange probs here.

I'm using SB classic and the latest SC. With Vista...
To the flac's I use often it's no problem, but to the flac's I use very
seldom it's begins to stutter and chop chop.

Therefor it can't be the network cause the songs will play fine until i
play the ones used rarely.

Any ideas? tried the most of the fixes on computer such as defrag,
cleaner, and so on. 

Seems to be a buffer problem but the computer is on 8%CPU and around
500mb of memory use (totalt 4gb)


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Re: [slim] Anyone else do this?

2008-07-25 Thread aubuti

I did it for a little while after the first Logitech branded versions of
SS came out, but the novelty wore off after 2-3 upgrades.


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[slim] Nightly builds - what's 7.2 and 7.3?

2008-07-25 Thread AbMagFab

I've been installing 7.1 (most recently to fix the Rhapsody issue), but
what's new in 7.2 and 7.3, and should I just install one of those?


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread AbMagFab

I can confirm the 7.1 build on 7/24 works from the Duet controller.

*BUT, the SB3 from the SB3 itself still doesn't work* (i.e. using the
SB3 remote to connect to Rhapsody using the SB3 display).


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Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread relen

I've never understood why some people still go so fuzzy about vinyl.
During my original studio career I was trained as a cutting engineer -
definitely in the Dark Arts Department - and I never liked what I heard
back from my discs or anyone else's if I had the original master tape to
refer to. I think vinyl lovers tend to be people who've never heard what
the music really sounded like in the studio. (Exception: if you
record/mix/etc specifically intending to use the sound of vinyl as
part of the effect/experience, then it probably DOES sound like what
your production team intended.)

I still like CDs (I'm not an audiophile). I tend to buy the discs and
rip 'em, cos then I have control over the rip quality. iTunes
downloads, for example, tend not to be as good as your own rips, even
if the data specs are the same - goodness knows why: carelessness? 

Once ripped, though, the CDs go into storage boxes under the bed. I do
buy lossless downloads, eg FLAC files from Magnatune.com or Jonathan
Coulton's site, say; and sometimes lossy ones if I have no option.
Ultimately I imagine everyone will offer lossless downloads and I will
happily leave CDs behind. The software used by content providers to
upload material to iTunes already includes lossless capability.

Technically, I find the very, very best CD players (so far out of my
range I can't imagine) are still, right now, better than the best file
playback I've heard. For example, in my view a Meridian* 808.2 trumps a
Transporter (it's several times the price so it ought to). But that
won't be true forever.

The basic deal with audiophiles generally seems to be that they like
the LAST great technology not the current one. So for them to like
something it has to have been superseded.

--Richard E

*I work for them so I'm biased, be warned.


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Re: [slim] Fishbone on Firefox? I wish

2008-07-25 Thread relen

Does anyone else have the problem that in the RH pane of Fishbone,
clicking on the 1 icon to go to the first page of the playlist (or
the  if you're on Page 2) doesn't do anything?

SC7.0.0-7.0.2 running on a Mac Mini with 10.4.x, viewing with Firefox 2
or 3 on more or less anything - FC5, XP, Mac 10.4.x and 10.5.x... or
Safari on Mac anything.

If so, how can I fix it? I already changed styles, wiped cache, you
name it, many many times.

Thanks!

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Re: [slim] Nightly builds - what's 7.2 and 7.3?

2008-07-25 Thread MrSinatra

no, stick with 7.1 until its released officially, then go to 7.2


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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-25 Thread simbo

Trevor;322883 Wrote: 
 How do I start an enhancement request?
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ but have a search first to make sure one
hasn't already been raised.


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Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread exile

jharo;322798 Wrote: 
 What people dont seem to get is that all physical media is dead.  CD,
 DVD,and yes even Blue Ray.  
 j

Amen to that. Right now we're in a period in which some folks still
feel a need to possess cds to have perfect lossless versions of their
music. But I would guess in a short time the small barrier of acquiring
lossless downloads will be removed and cds will disappear from the
marketplace just like vhs tape.

Same goes for video. itunes, amazon and netflix type video download
services are going to make blue ray obsolete before it's even had a
chance to be a mainstream  option.


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread snarlydwarf

ModelCitizen;322877 Wrote: 
 Ah, thanks Peter. I think the penny has dropped now.
 
 The third party SBR Configuration tool is aimed at users who have a
 Reciever (SBR) but not a Controller (SBC).
 
 I'm interested to know if there is any physical limitation that makes
 it impossible for an SBC to action an SB3/Transporter firmware update
 over a wireless network (i.e. without resorting to IR and emmulation).
 If so, what is it?
 
 MC

Solution: tell your SB3/etc to update automatically.  I believe this is
under the setup menu (hold down left arrow to get there.)

I figured that:
a) I am lazy
b) The SB3 wont do much when it wants new firmware, other than tell
you it wants new firmware.  So not like you can delay it.
c) I am lazy.
d) Did I mention I am lazy?

Then you don't need any remote to update the SB3/etc.


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Re: [slim] Anyone else do this?

2008-07-25 Thread Amauta

What about the startup logo of your squeezebox?


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread Zevs

AbMagFab;322909 Wrote: 
 I can confirm the 7.1 build on 7/24 works from the Duet controller.
 
 *BUT, the SB3 from the SB3 itself still doesn't work* (i.e. using the
 SB3 remote to connect to Rhapsody using the SB3 display).

Yes, it works fine now, both on the Duet and the SB3 itself. AbMagFab
did you also update on the firmware on the SB3 by pressing and holding
the Brightness button? If not that could be the reason for your
problem.

Zevs


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Re: [slim] Anyone else do this?

2008-07-25 Thread aubuti

That's firmware, which is closed source, so there's nothing you can do
about it.


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Re: [slim] Anyone else do this?

2008-07-25 Thread shabbs

Yep. But my SB1 still has the original logo on startup.

;)


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Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-25 Thread mortslim

I agree that the new iPhone/iPod Touch remote app adds value to the
AppleTV experience.  I am sure the mentioned wishlist of additional
features are just a question of future updates to the app.


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread mvalera

Here's how to configure your Squeezebox Classic or earlier and
Tranporters to auto upgrade their firmware:


- Hit the back arrow button on your remote and hold it till you see
  Squeezebox Setup
  
- Scroll up or down to Current settings and then hit the right
  arrow
  
- Scroll down to Auto upgrade and change it to On
  
- Back out and now it will update on it's own just like Squeezebox
  Receiver


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Re: [slim] Can't save Limiting Bandwith setting !?

2008-07-25 Thread topa

All of them, depending on how many are switched on. Same setting as with
Ver 6.54 though.


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread damager

Sorry to ask again, but I'd like to know if the required 7.1 build is
the one I can download from the SlimDevices download page, or are the
nightly builds kept somewhere else.


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread AbMagFab

Zevs;322943 Wrote: 
 Yes, it works fine now, both on the Duet and the SB3 itself. AbMagFab
 did you also update on the firmware on the SB3 by pressing and holding
 the Brightness button? If not that could be the reason for your
 problem.
 
 Zevs

Nice of you to simply state that when it definitely didn't from my SB3.
And yes, I upgraded the firmware first by holding the brightness
button, as was (very clearly) recommended in SC.

In fairness, I tried once right after the firmware upgrade, and before
it worked from the Duet/SC.  I'll try again tonight and post results.


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread AbMagFab

damager;322970 Wrote: 
 Sorry to ask again, but I'd like to know if the required 7.1 build is
 the one I can download from the SlimDevices download page, or are the
 nightly builds kept somewhere else.

Somewhere else.  Check one of the forums that is clearly about beta
software, it's not hidden or anything.


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Re: [slim] Nightly builds - what's 7.2 and 7.3?

2008-07-25 Thread MrSinatra

there's a software roadmap in the wiki somewhere...


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Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread relen

I certainly think packaged media for audio are on the way out. Hi-def
video discs will take a bit longer to be superseded - assuming that's
what people actually want. Most people are happy with DVD - a
resolution which is eminently downloadable. But if you want the content
of a BRD, you will be waiting a while at current net speeds. 

My expectation is that BRD will be a lukewarm success, not because of
the death of packed media, but because people just don't think they
need it. Stick a good scaler on the end of a good (not $50) DVD player
and you can't tell the difference really. 

I think most people will get their hi-def from other sources -
downloads ultimately, but in the meantime from satellite, cable and
digital terrestrial.

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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread Zevs

damager;322970 Wrote: 
 Sorry to ask again, but I'd like to know if the required 7.1 build is
 the one I can download from the SlimDevices download page, or are the
 nightly builds kept somewhere else.

Hi Damager!  You can find it here:

http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/7.1/

Good luck
Zevs


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread damager

Thanks for your help!

Zevs;322980 Wrote: 
 Hi Damager!  You can find it here:
 
 http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/7.1/
 
 Good luck
 Zevs


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Re: [slim] Napster

2008-07-25 Thread BrockStone

I concur.  Any news on this?

The fact that Rhapsody isn't available in Canada is very
frustrating...Napster is, but we don't have a nice way to transport
it.

Can someone in the know outline the technical details of why Napster
hasn't been done yet if they have that info?  If we get steps perhaps
we can tackle them one by one.

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Re: [slim] TinyAmp S30 amplifier the perfect companion Squeezebox ?

2008-07-25 Thread Paul W

lagosirio;261615 Wrote: 
 Auto sensing means for Power on/off? No idea.
 
 However I just purchased this one here with 100W
 http://www.advance-acoustic.com/en-product.php?id=25
 (more for audiophiles) 
 and now I think if Airport Express or SqueezeBox are better for me. I
 prefer the Apple as user interface but like the stand allone Radio
 functionality of the Squeezebox.

I just got the the following system for a bedroom, doesn't play as loud
as my main system (Arcam amp  Totem speakers), but perfect for a
bedroom and great sound quality...

http://www.planetofsoundonline.com/systems/index.html
Level 1 Micro System: Pro-Ject Amp Box  Mordaunt Short Carnival 2
Speakers


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread jh901

mvalera;322954 Wrote: 
 
 
  Back out and now it will update on it's own just like Squeezebox
 Receiver
 

So, I have 2 Receivers (1 controller) and they will auto-update?

When do these updates happen and what do they do?  Will I notice
enhancements?


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread mvalera

Receiver updates come with SqueezeCenter and SqueezeNetwork updates.

Most of the time you will not notice any changes. Changes are detailed
in the changelog at the top:

http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.0/tags/7.0.1/server/Changelog7.html

Squeezebox Receiver always auto update, Squeezebox Controller will
prompt you to begin the update.

Mike


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread ModelCitizen

mvalera;322991 Wrote: 
 Squeezebox Receiver always auto update, Squeezebox Controller will
 prompt you to begin the update.
Tbis begs the question: If it is seen fit that the SBC updates
automatically why not the SB3?

MC


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[slim] Last.fm. Why do they allow Logitech to use their service with no ads?

2008-07-25 Thread ModelCitizen

I'm perplexed about the Last.fm revenue model when it comes to hardware
players like the Logitech stuff.

If you use Last.fm via their web site you get stomping great animated
adds directed at you.

If you use Last.fm on your Logitech devices there are no ads and, as
Last.fm publish their api freely on their web site and appear to invite
third parties to hook into it without asking anything in return, no
apparent way for them to gain any revenue.

It can be seen that very few people become paid subscribers (maybe
because the advantages of this are minimal) so how does the service
work?

Are we to expect streamed audio ads inbetween the music soon?

Personally I can't see any other way the service can make a profit. It
worries me as I can't listen to music with ads and I love Last.fm..

. but maybe, as I'm a paid subscriber already I'll avoid the
ads 

Ding: Lightbulb moment I think that might be it!

Any thoughts welcome.

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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-25 Thread ModelCitizen

I'm up for this too as I've had exactly the same expereince as Fred.

If someone creates an enhancement request I'll second it.

Please post bug/enhancement link here.

MC


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Re: [slim] CNet: It's official: Audiophiles are over CDs

2008-07-25 Thread autopilot

jharo Wrote: 
 
 What people dont seem to get is that all physical media is dead. CD,
 DVD,and yes even Blue Ray. 
 

I'm going to [mostly] disagree here :) While i agree that one day all
physical media will of course be completely obsolete in favour of
downloading and streaming, unlike music, DVD/BR being dead is still a
relatively long way off.

Some people seem to think DVD and Blue Ray are on their way out much
sooner than they are because they are just looking at it from a
technological point of view and missing the differences between the
markets. It's partly due to technical limitations like net speeds etc,
but its also a generation thing. Music technology trends tend to be
driven by the young - at least most people that listen to music on the
move are young. But thats not the case with movies, its a much broader
generational thing. And i know many people of the age of 50ish who are
still just getting into DVD, let alone Blue Ray etc. Of course i'm
generalising a lot here, but it mostly true. But more than anything its
the portable market thats driven download sales, and that portable
market just is not there for movies.


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Re: [slim] Nightly builds - what's 7.2 and 7.3?

2008-07-25 Thread autopilot

AbMagFab;322974 Wrote: 
 So... what's new/planned in 7.2 and 7.3?

Quite a bit, but the main thing (and probably the biggie for most
people) is audio playback through the controllers headphone socket :)

With my newly acquired M28 portable speakers, i cant wait to have a
portable Squeezebox for the kitchen/garden/bathroom :)


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Re: [slim] Last.fm. Why do they allow Logitech to use their service with no ads?

2008-07-25 Thread autopilot

Last.FM started out as a small British firm, but i remember when they
where bought out by a large US firm there was talk of audio advert
breaks. But i think a lot of their revenue comes from buying music
through the recommendation system.


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Re: [slim] Last.fm. Why do they allow Logitech to use their service with no ads?

2008-07-25 Thread BigTony

I have a last.fm account, i've set up the plugin and everything works
ok, except i can't listen! There is no last.fm icon for me to connect
to. Did i miss something?

SC7, SB3, Windows XP

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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-25 Thread ghostrider

I never really thought about doing that at a party but if they enhance
the controller for that, I'd buy one!


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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-25 Thread aubuti

bumpydog;322161 Wrote: 
 Maybe the best option would be for 'play' to actually insert a song
 immediately into the current playlist. Then once the song is over it
 resumes the playlist from where it left off. That way you can either
 play a song now or add it to the end of the playlist with the 'add'
 button. You wouldn't need a separate party mode or such like, just
 maybe an additional menu option to 'clear playlist'.
Just to finish the thought here, what would you do with the current
behavior of the 'play' button (ie, replace the current playlist with
the track/album/playlist selected when hitting 'play')? While it's
obvious that people often do this when they don't mean to do so, it's
also true that sometimes that's exactly what people mean to do. So are
you proposing to do away with that functionality, or what?


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Re: [slim] Last.fm. Why do they allow Logitech to use their service with no ads?

2008-07-25 Thread autopilot

BigTony;323006 Wrote: 
 I have a last.fm account, i've set up the plugin and everything works
 ok, except i can't listen! There is no last.fm icon for me to connect
 to. Did i miss something?
 
 SC7, SB3, Windows XP
 
 BT

Which plgin? The official one or the Third party one? Officially,
Last.FM Radio is not available through SC7, but it is through
Squeezenetwork. It will available through 7.1, which is due soon.


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*Server:* SC7.1b (Windows Vista 64)
*Players:* Squeezebox 3 (main room) / Squeezebox Receiver (bedroom) /
Softsqueeze (office).
*Amps:* Cambridge Audio 640a (main room) / Trends TA10.1 Class-T /
Logitech 5.1.
*Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef Cresta 1's (bedroom) /
Logitech 5.1's.
*Remotes:* Harmony One (IR) / 1 Beta SB Controller / 1 Official SB
Controller. 

'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/)

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Re: [slim] Last.fm. Why do they allow Logitech to use their service with no ads?

2008-07-25 Thread snarlydwarf

autopilot;323004 Wrote: 
 Last.FM started out as a small British firm, but i remember when they
 where bought out by a large US firm there was talk of audio advert
 breaks. But i think a lot of their revenue comes from buying music
 through the recommendation system.

Very large US firm: Last.fm is now owned by CBS.


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[slim] You just have to LOVE DRM!

2008-07-25 Thread tyler_durden

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080724-drm-still-sucks-yahoo-music-going-dark-taking-keys-with-it.html

When will people ever learn?

TD


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Re: [slim] Last.fm. Why do they allow Logitech to use their service with no ads?

2008-07-25 Thread Siduhe

IIRC, the only ads you see are on the website (if you're not a
subscriber). As snarly says, there was talk of audio ad breaks but
hasn't come to anything yet.  Perhaps it explains why there's a lot of
focus on the web player in the new version of the site, rather than the
standalone player.

Subsriber status used to give you priority on the servers, but that
hasn't really been an issue since CBS brought Last.fm [and/or they
upgraded the servers at around the same time as CBS brought Last.fm]. 
For a while though, it was pretty essential!


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Re: [slim] Duet Wireless Network Problems - Possible Solution?

2008-07-25 Thread mikelee999

I have an open case with Logitech about this issue. In my case, after
not using the SBC remote for a while (overnight, typically), it cannot
connect to my Squeezecenter box. 2 things work reliably to correct
this:

* disable the powersaving mode on the SBC--it almost never has a
problem then.

* turn off/on the SBC remote.

I doubt my issues are about problems in the power save mode for my
router because the SBC controller can be pinged and I can log on to it
remotely from the Squeezecenter computer. It just doesn't connect to
Squeezecenter even though it's on the network.

Turning off powersave mode is unacceptable as a workaround because the
battery drains extremely quickly--it won't last more than a couple of
hours off the cradle.

At this point, technical support is offering to replace the hardware,
but they don't have a root cause--they're guessing too.


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Re: [slim] Duet Wireless Network Problems - Possible Solution?

2008-07-25 Thread Milhouse

mikelee999;323019 Wrote: 
 I have an open case with Logitech about this issue. In my case, after
 not using the SBC remote for a while (overnight, typically), it cannot
 connect to my Squeezecenter box. 2 things work reliably to correct
 this:
 
 * disable the powersaving mode on the SBC--it almost never has a
 problem then.
 
 * turn off/on the SBC remote.
 
 I doubt my issues are about problems in the power save mode for my
 router because the SBC controller can be pinged and I can log on to it
 remotely from the Squeezecenter computer. It just doesn't connect to
 Squeezecenter even though it's on the network.
 
 Turning off powersave mode is unacceptable as a workaround because the
 battery drains extremely quickly--it won't last more than a couple of
 hours off the cradle.
 
 At this point, technical support is offering to replace the hardware,
 but they don't have a root cause--they're guessing too.

What make, model and firmware are you running on your access point? Is
it the latest firmware, are you sure it has properly implemented PSM?

If disabling PSM on the Controller improves the ability of your
Controller to connect to your Squeezecenter (ie. disabling PSM improves
overall network connectivity) then it seems pretty obvious that PSM is
the problem, and there's a good chance it's your router that has a
stuffed up PSM implementation. Correctly implemented PSM (both on the
client and the access point) should not noticeably impact network
performance but it will significantly improve battery lifetime on the
client.

There's always the possibility that Slim Devices have implemented PSM
incorrectly, but since the introduction of PSM on Nokia hardware almost
12 months ago it has _always_ turned out to be a flaw in the access
point for anyone that has experienced network problems, so much so that
Nokia introduced the ability for the user to turn off PSM on the client
(on the understanding that this is to the detriment of battery life -
there's nothing Nokia can do about [EMAIL PROTECTED] access point firmware).

I genuinely think you're wasting your time replacing the Slim Devices
hardware at this stage - if possible, try another access point. I agree
that turning off PSM is an unacceptable solution, but there's nothing
anyone here can do about faulty router firmware (assuming that it is
the router, which I'd put money on). Only the manufacturer of your
router can resolve this problem (or try after market firmware if it's
available).

There's a Nokia bug on PSM problems 'here'
(https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1636) which references some
access points with known PSM problems. Discussing this further really
is futile unless people include details (make/model/firmware) of their
access points. The Controller is now part of a wider and
non-Logitech/Slim Devices system, yet when battery life is poor in the
Controller the focus is only on the Controller hardware leaving the
likely culprit (the access point) to go undetected.


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Re: [slim] Duet Wireless Network Problems - Possible Solution?

2008-07-25 Thread Woodstock

mikelee999;323019 Wrote: 
 At this point, technical support is offering to replace the hardware,
 but they don't have a root cause--they're guessing too.

And they are going to replace all of the hardware they released thus
far...u...yar!!! Mayby they should look for some other answer!
Just my thoughts!


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Re: [slim] MusicIP Rocks!

2008-07-25 Thread pufnstuf

A sincere thank you to all the posters in this thread! Based on all the
information gathered here I finally have a working MusicIP/Squeeze
Centre setup with 28000+ tracks. Woohoo!

Much appreciated.


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[slim] Cnet: free jukeboxes

2008-07-25 Thread MrSinatra

http://www.download.com/8301-2007_4-281-12.html?hhTest=1tag=nl.e404


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Re: [slim] SBC Search hangs SC, SBR, SB, Transporter

2008-07-25 Thread networker

I replaced the Duet SBC and SBR

I have done no changes to the SC system, as before on SC I run
SqueezeCenter-Version: 7.1 - 21967 @ Tue Jul 22 01:03:27 PDT 2008 -
Windows XP - DE - cp1252

The reason to change the Duet was the ping responsetime of the SBC
which was about ~20ms to ~300ms where the SBC was in the same place
(about 1 meter) near to the receiver. The SBR has always ping times
about 3ms to 5ms.

After replacing the units the ping response of the SBC was about 5ms to
8ms. So there must be something wrong with the  contoller unit. In the
display it shows already full signalstrength but the pingtimes are
always 
changing and sometimes droped out.

Now after connecting the new unit for example I can change players
within 3 to 10 sec, which I think is quite ok, before it tooks plenty
of minutes.

But, after I thought everything is nice I start again a search for
WHO where the connection breaks to the SC. I restart both, the SC and
the SBC and try to search supertr via interpret search, the sbc
displays the different albums and after choose all albums it hangs
the controller again.
after about 20 minutes the sbc was responding again and I tried the
same search... with no problem.

Is that belong to the huge music library or processor which is  a 3.2
GHZ Pentium with 3GB RAM (the Siemens CELSIUS Workstation runs for
about 2 1/2 ongoing without any issue)? After the 20 minutes a second
same search there was no disconnecting event and I got the title list
of the search and can play it.

I don't know, maybe somebody out there have the right idea or technical
hint for what is going wrong here.

Thanks to all who give me some hints of resolving the problem !


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[slim] A bargain at any price

2008-07-25 Thread haunyack

Ok,

My beloved Vandersteen 3A Signature loudspeakers are on the market.

Contact me via P.M. and I'll send pics and asking price.

I would absolutely love to see them in the hands of someone who can
appreciate the unique presentation that these fine speakers offer.

Mint condition, all original equipment,packaging,warranty.
These are Red Cherry finish with black grill cloth (The standard
Vandersteen minimalist design).


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread radish

ModelCitizen;322993 Wrote: 
 Tbis begs the question: If it is seen fit that the SBC updates
 automatically why not the SB3?
 
 MC

The SB3 can be set to autoupdate, but it's not the default. For SBR it
makes more sense to be the default as there's no screen :)


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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-25 Thread GeeJay

aubuti;323009 Wrote: 
 Just to finish the thought here, what would you do with the current
 behavior of the 'play' button (ie, replace the current playlist with
 the track/album/playlist selected when hitting 'play')? While it's
 obvious that people often do this when they don't mean to do so, it's
 also true that sometimes that's exactly what people mean to do. So are
 you proposing to do away with that functionality, or what?

I think the idea is that when you set it to party mode, the play button
is temporarily disabled.  If you want it to become functional, take it
out of party mode.

This is a fantastic idea.  I have exactly the same problem when I have
a get-together.


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Re: [slim] Multiple Albums?

2008-07-25 Thread olc

I also do not use WMP but WinAmp. I have tried every solution mentioned
here and still have the problem of albums being split into two, with
the same name, by SqueezeCenter. I Use a separate folder for each
album. I use WinAmp or freedb to get tags and then examine them with
MP3Tag or TagEditor. The songs in the two (or even more) pieces have
identical tags except for the track title and track number. It seems
SqueezeCenter is using something not shown in a tag editor. I have no
idea what to try next.


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Re: [slim] Rhpasody not playing

2008-07-25 Thread cnickers

andyg;322547 Wrote: 
 If you are using SC and still having problems with Rhapsody, you will
 need to download tonight's 7.1 nightly build, or listen on
 SqueezeNetwork.

Just tried using the latest build and then SqzNetwork, but neither gets
me access to my Rhapsody.  I was having this problem a few days ago,
started working again without me doing anything, and now it's been down
all day today.

Bummer.  Hope it get fixed soon, as I really like using Rhapsody.


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread ModelCitizen

snarlydwarf;322931 Wrote: 
   b) The SB3 wont do much when it wants new firmware, other than tell
 you it wants new firmware.  So not like you can delay it.
So it might as well be automatic, screen or not?

MC


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Re: [slim] Duet eccentricities: Firmware update and configuration. Why??

2008-07-25 Thread snarlydwarf

ModelCitizen;323061 Wrote: 
 So it might as well be automatic, screen or not?
 
 MC

Probably: I used to like it on Manual.. I am paranoid and don't like
software autoinstalling.  But I got tired of running around the house
and holding Brightness when I upgraded SC...

So I switched mine and now I don't notice when SC upgrades change
firmware.  Much nicer.


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