Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread Stratmangler

Sounds like you're looking at the controller
http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_controller.html . The transporter
standard remote is the same as the SB3 (AFAIK).

You can get one here https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/280

Chris:)


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Re: [slim] Weird pauses at end of track in random

2009-01-09 Thread awy

I need some earlier data from the log, showing the start of the song.

What kind of tracks are you streaming? Is transcoding being used?


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Re: [slim] Playing music not in SqueezeCenter library

2009-01-09 Thread socistep

I can see why people would have a requirement for this, there are a few
tracks that I download etc. that it would be good to listen to on the
SB before deciding whether I like them or before I clean the tags up,
this could be located on the desktop.

However to disagree with myself I could always just put them into the
Downloads artist within my library I have which is a bit of dumping
ground for random tracks.


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Re: [slim] Weird pauses at end of track in random

2009-01-09 Thread Jackswan

The tracks are in Flac format and the transcoder is set to native.

I'll pull another log file later for you.


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Re: [slim] Replay gain, equal volume.

2009-01-09 Thread mariowing

The bug with Squeezecenter adding the gain-values from SoundCheck and
the standard replay gain tag was fixed in version 7.1 according to
the changelog
(http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.3/trunk/server/Changelog7.html
- search for soundcheck)

But it looks from other posts that if BOTH SoundCheck and replaygain
values are available SqueezeCenter uses SoundCheck values and a lot of
people don't like that. But for me it's fine since I recently started
to use the iVolume program described above so now I have working gain
values in iTunes, iPod and Squeeze :-)


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Re: [slim] Wake-up timeout

2009-01-09 Thread DaveWr

Hi,

If you want it fixed so its logical vote for the bug:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9777

Regards

Dave


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[slim] Cable Conundrum

2009-01-09 Thread chriscc

Hi all,

I have what I suspect is a network cable problem but I'd be very
grateful for any hints/tips from the forum (before I give up and resort
to wireless, which is a fairly weak signal).

Here's what I've tried:

I plug my Boom into an ethernet wall socket. The cable from the wall
socket runs back to a cable cupboard where it terminates and I've
patched it into a Netgear unmanaged switch.

When I select wired ethernet on the SB setup it does (seemingly
randomly) one of two things - (a) it says the network cable appears to
be disconnected; or (b) it gets past that step and fails to find itself
an IP.

Failing to even detect the network cable made me concerned about the
CAT5e cable itself. A cable test came up fine for all 8 pins (my cable
tester is just a cheap 'pin' tester, it can't certify the cable for
ethernet use). I also tried an 'audio over CAT5' gadget and that worked
fine.

So I conclude that the copper pairs are all connected but for some
reason the cable is not up to scratch - maybe some crosstalk or
interference or something I don't understand.

Note - there's loads of other stuff in the house hooked up to the same
switch and it all works well. I've also tried changing around the ports
used on the switch in case of a duff switch port. Finally, the SB
connects fine if I move it to the cable cupboard and plug it directly
into the switch (although doesn't work so well there as an alarm
clock...).

My questions are:

- Can I force the Boom's network interface to 10Mbps in the hope a
slower speed makes the cable usable?

- Can I force half duplex or some other clever setting that reduces
speed but increases reliability (I'm only using for compressed audio
playback)?

- Can anyone see anything I'm missing?!

Many thanks!
Chris


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Re: [slim] Playing music not in SqueezeCenter library

2009-01-09 Thread bernt

Install a webserver and use Tune in in SC?


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Re: [slim] Playing music not in SqueezeCenter library

2009-01-09 Thread mphearn

MeSue;381406 Wrote: 
 Yes, it's in 7.3. From the webUI, go to Settings  Advanced (tab) 
 Network (pull down menu). It's the last item on the page labeled UPnP
 Client. Change from disabled to enabled and then you will probably
 need to restart SC.
Thank you Sue, I have now enabled UPnP searching (my difficulty in
finding it was because I wasn't using the default interface).
I am now making progress and have just succeeded in playing some music
tracks which are NOT in the SC library via the SB3 !!  Great result!
Many thanks for your assistance.
Malcolm H


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread linvale

The Marantz can be picked up discounted at around $600 US and vs the
$600 for two more SBs alone without amplifiers - and no syncing
problems...


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Re: [slim] How worried should I be?

2009-01-09 Thread toby10

Goodsounds;381364 Wrote: 
 . and since we started on the economic downturn, let's hope all the
 bad news is out and that the good news is right around the corner.

There are some very serious hits still to come.  This isn't over by a
long shot.  Just one example:  there is a BIG banking/mortgage problem
still looming out there that hasn't hit the books yet, and will be
greater than the sub-prime problem we haven't fully flushed yet.   :(

Put on your seat belts, it's a very bumpy ride ahead.


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Re: [slim] Cable Conundrum

2009-01-09 Thread alZmtbr

perhaps the wall socket connection itself is 'flakey'? Do you have a
loopback connector? If so, plug it into the socket and see if you get a
link light at the switch end? Yo do get a link light when the SB is
plugged in, don't you?

How is the switch 'uplinked' to the router, if any? Some devices still
need a 'default gateway' to function properly - arp broadcasts
seemingly not being enough.

Good luck!
Allan


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Re: [slim] Cable Conundrum

2009-01-09 Thread Peter
alZmtbr wrote:
 perhaps the wall socket connection itself is 'flakey'? Do you have a
 loopback connector? If so, plug it into the socket and see if you get a
 link light at the switch end? Yo do get a link light when the SB is
 plugged in, don't you?
   
I agree that the socket connections are more likely to blame.

100 mbit ethernet uses only 4 wires of the 8, so you might try using the 
other 4. You can do that by using two of these 'splitters':

http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Reviews/Network/ats/index.html

Regards,
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Re: [slim] Need New Wireless Router

2009-01-09 Thread Peter



Robin Bowes wrote:

Peter wrote:
  

Robin Bowes wrote:


Peter wrote:
  
  

Robin Bowes wrote:
They're all wireless-g though, aren't they?



And?
  
  

And I'd like an alternative firmware AP with wireless-g.



Eh? You mean wireless-n ?
  


Obviously.
  
The OP is using his current device with 3 Squeezeboxen - they too are 
wireless G.
  
  

So am I, but I also have laptops that are easily upgraded to N.



I'm sure there are APs available that support N and also run DD-WRT. 
I've not looked though since I don't have any need for N


I'll do some research myself then.

Regards,
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Re: [slim] What Anti-Virus software do you use

2009-01-09 Thread SlimboJimbo


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49644

Question: Which Anti-Virus do you use

- Avast
- AVG (free 8.0)
- Avira
- CA E-Trust
- ESET (NOD32)
- Kaspersky
- F-Secure
- McAfee (any version)
- Norton (any version)
- Other or None (please post a response)


None. Using Linux.


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Re: [slim] Need New Wireless Router

2009-01-09 Thread mewzshn

I decided trial and error was OK with liberal return policies.  Since
BJ's is close to my house I picked up a Belkin N router for $50.  At 8
a.m. today, it is working well.  I also managed to get my Belkin
repeater to work (realized in all the setup networking I had to do
with the SB, that I needed to point the SB to the repeater and not the
router) and am now getting signal strength of 66%!

Interestingly enough, although the SB got really low signal strength
with the new, fancy lynksis, the 3rd floor pc got moderate reception. 
With this new Belkin, the SB is doing much better (even before I
connected the repeater) but the 3rd floor sucks.  I'm hoping that if I
replace the wireless adapter up there with an N one, that will fix
the problem.

I may or may not try the alternate firmware with this little Belkin -
it ain't broke, yet.  One of the things which I constantly read in
reviews is that these devices work for a day - or a week - or maybe a
year.  A year seems too short, but what's with a day or a week?  Maybe
I'll stick to playing the piano.


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Re: [slim] Need New Wireless Router

2009-01-09 Thread corbey

radish;381117 Wrote: 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus
 
 I personally use a D-Link DIR-655 and love it, others will no doubt
 proclaim love for DD-WRT and suggest you put it on your WRT54GS.
 Certainly worth trying!

Make this another vote for the DIR-655, which I've been using for a
couple of years. I have a wireless-n laptop, so I run it in mixed g-n 
mode. No problems with my three Squeezeboxen, and it seems to have
better range than my old WRT-54G.


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Re: [slim] Need New Wireless Router

2009-01-09 Thread Peter

corbey wrote:
radish;381117 Wrote: 
  

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/RouterStatus

I personally use a D-Link DIR-655 and love it, others will no doubt
proclaim love for DD-WRT and suggest you put it on your WRT54GS.
Certainly worth trying!



Make this another vote for the DIR-655, which I've been using for a
couple of years. I have a wireless-n laptop, so I run it in mixed g-n 
mode. No problems with my three Squeezeboxen, and it seems to have

better range than my old WRT-54G.
  


I have one and I was happy with it too at first. But the old problem of 
having to reboot it once a wekk or month has turned up with this one as 
well :(


It must be really hard to make a stable router...

Regards,
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Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market

2009-01-09 Thread corbey

Don't forget that Cisco has also owned Scientific Atlanta, the set-top
box maker, for the past couple of years. Cisco is making a serious push
into the consumer market, and they want to have a whole house solution,
based on Cisco products. 

Their goal is to increase consumer media consumption, especially video,
so that network infrastructure companies will need to buy more Cisco
routers and switches to handle the load. That's where they make the
real money.


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Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market

2009-01-09 Thread HectorHughMunro

This should be a good development for everyone.  The streamer market is
still so small that new entrants are likely to expand the market rather
than cannibalize other manufacturers.

Re; pricing, it would be unlikely that the launch prices would hold. 
Comparisons at the moment may not be accurate.

My first impression on seeing the specs and pictures was that it wasn't
really adding too much to the party and certainly not enough take me
away from the Duet.  The 'N' cabability is interesting and Slimdevices
has been a bit slow in adopting this. The handset looked a bit big as
well.  It'll be interesting to see the Mk2.


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Re: [slim] Hardware reset for Slimp3: Can anyone help with resetting Xilinx chip?

2009-01-09 Thread Mark Lanctot

roboele;381283 Wrote: 
 Mark: I opened the case, and there is a xilinx XC95144XL on the inside
 ;-)

Huh!  Out of interest since Sean's responded to this thread, what did
the CPLD in SLIMP3 and presumably the SB1 do?  Just run firmware?

The hardware comparison wiki page:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/HardwareComparison

shows that the decoder in SLIMP3 was a Micronas MAS3507D, in SB1 a
Micronas MAS3539, but that in SB2 and later was software-based. 
Presumably this is SlimDSP, and I understood this was done in the CPLD
so that new codecs could be added.


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread Gazjam

Thanks Chris,

I think though the Transpoter remote is the same except the buttons are
backlit - which is EXACTLY what Im after.

Until I get an Ipod Touch (which I prefer to the Controller) the
Transporter remote is what Im after.

Just trying to check that it is indeed backlit before I buy.


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread ThomP

radish;381428 Wrote: 
 Harmony devices work very well with the SB range. I'm not sure if you
 noticed, but Harmony's tend to have a lot of hard buttons and the vast
 majority are mapped automatically. The only things I have mapped to the
 LCD are brightness and size, so it only needs one page.

I also use a Harmony for my SB from time to time, but I must admit that
I can't recommend it - not because it doesn't support the SB (it does),
but because the products - imho - are bad:-( I bought it because the
concept is great, but as time goes by my impression with how it works
gets worse:

1) Totally opposite the Squeeze* products, Logitech has chosen a
completely closed approach for development of Harmony. No open source,
no chance to look behind the scenes, and no way to change or even look
at the IR-codes manually - highly relevant in a lot of cases.
This approach also means that once you bought your Harmony, you aren't
likely to get any new features. They are only implemented in new
products.

2) This could be ok if everything just worked - after all many
companies share this policy - but my Harmony (895) is unstable and I am
still having a hard time getting it to consistently send one code
instead of two - this applies to codes I taught it myself as well as
codes that are in the database.

3) The hardware quality (specifically the buttons) is not impressive to
say the least.

I would highly recommend browsing the Harmony forums before buying one
- after all, it's a pretty expensive remote!


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Re: [slim] Playing music not in SqueezeCenter library

2009-01-09 Thread mphearn

mphearn;381596 Wrote: 
 Thank you Sue, I have now enabled UPnP searching (my difficulty in
 finding it was because I wasn't using the default interface).
 I am now making progress and have just succeeded in playing some music
 tracks which are NOT in the SC library via the SB3 !!  Great result!
 Many thanks for your assistance.
 Malcolm H
Now I am finding a wierd problem. When I select my PC in the CS Music
Library menu, four folders are listed bt default. They are Music,
Video, Pictures, Playlists. If I select Playlists I can access *a few*
music files from my SC library and from elsewhere on the PC (not in the
SC library) They all play OK via the SB. If I select Music I just get
error message UPnP request failed please check UPnP server. I have
checked the WMP library settings and all look ok. Note I get the same
default folders with a PS3 but it plays all the files in the Music
folder successfully.
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Re: [slim] Cable Conundrum

2009-01-09 Thread SuperQ

You may also have a wire order mismatch.  For ethernet you need to make
sure the color pairs match (generally TIA/EIA T568B standard) in order
for the signal to make it to the other end.  If you swap the colors,
you will end up with crosstalk that will make even 10mbps fail. 
Changing the duplex won't help (that's just an end-device capability
issue, not related to signal strength)


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

  after all, it's a pretty expensive remote! 

They're actually pretty cheap. If you think Logitechs are expensive,
don't find out how much these cost.

http://www.crestron.co.uk/products/view.aspx?cat=1333id=1258

My CI who sells Harmony hates Harmony remotes. I found Harmony software
pretty awful to use.


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Re: [slim] Cable Conundrum

2009-01-09 Thread Pat Farrell
chriscc wrote:
 - Can anyone see anything I'm missing?!

Try running a fresh cable outside the walls from Boom to switch as a
test. Change anything?
If that works well, plug same cable into wall jack and test. Could show
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Re: [slim] SqueezeNMT GUI for the NMT(Popcorn hour) released

2009-01-09 Thread trotsky10

elziko;363896 Wrote: 
 I don't have a web servlet running or a disk in my Popcorn hour so I'm
 unable to try this just yet but it sounds great!
 
 Would I be able to just use this as a 'now playing' screen for one of
 my players? If so what would it display - I had a look though the
 screen shots but didn't find anything that looked like a now playing
 screen.

Update
==

I have already released v0.5 which is available at the google code
project site and includes a new artist menu. 

This weekend I will hopefully release v0.6 which includes a now playing
screen that includes a list of the songs in the current now playing
playlist (split into pages of 30 items) and highlights the currently
playing song. Additionally it allows you to save the current playlist
as a real playlist for future use.

It should also include a playlists menu to browse playlists.


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread BlueScreenJunky

Yeah, Harmony 525/555 are pretty cheap and work OK. And I like the whole
activity concept, I find it pretty convenient to use once it's set up
correctly.

The software is definitely the worst thing I ever used though, you have
to run like 3 wizards to change a simple option, and there's no way it
will let you configure what you want by yourself.


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread garym999

How about 3 of these (http://www.sumoh.com) with 3 SBR's and one SBC. I
have this working. You can sync the SBRs if you just need the same op
in each room or use an SBC, Nokia, Pronto, iPhone etc. to control each
zone separatley, as others have said.


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread Rick B.

I use a Harmony remote for my SB and love it. It's the old 670 model,
that can be had for around $100 new. Yes, the online software is a bit
goofy, but once you get used to it, it does the job.

I control my flatscreen, hi-def cable box, A/V receiver, another
pre-amp and amp for whole house audio, a third amp for outdoor
speakers, DVD, CD and SB with it. I have 3 separate volume controls
programmed into it. All without any paging on the remote.

Worth consideration, especially if you want to control more than your
SB.


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Re: [slim] Radiofeeds.co.uk on SqueezeNetwork

2009-01-09 Thread vinnielo

RadioFeeds has always been available on SqueezeNetwork via the podcasts
method. You should have had the instructions sent to you when you
signed up.
Anyhow, you can now find RadioFeeds in the Internet Radio - More radio
section without the need to register.


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Re: [slim] Replay gain, equal volume.

2009-01-09 Thread Nonreality

mariowing;381581 Wrote: 
 The bug with Squeezecenter adding the gain-values from SoundCheck and
 the standard replay gain tag was fixed in version 7.1 according to
 the changelog
 (http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.3/trunk/server/Changelog7.html
 - search for soundcheck)
 
 But it looks from other posts that if BOTH SoundCheck and replaygain
 values are available SqueezeCenter uses SoundCheck values and a lot of
 people don't like that. But for me it's fine since I recently started
 to use the iVolume program described above so now I have working gain
 values in iTunes, iPod and Squeeze :-)
I don't see where that has been fixed.  It still added them together if
you had both tags in 7.1 for me.  I haven't tried it in 7.2 and above
but haven't seen anything in the change logs that says it's been fixed.


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread toby10

linvale;381600 Wrote: 
 The Marantz can be picked up discounted at around $600 US and vs the
 $600 for two more SBs alone without amplifiers - and no syncing
 problems...

Same with the Yamaha AVR's with multi-zones.  I know the 1800's are
being blown out for around $600.
Models RX-V:
1700
2700
1800
3800

The catch with the Yamaha's Zone usage is that Zones only work with an
analog input source.  i.e.  Optical out of an SB3 into a Yamaha will
not output audio to Zones 2  3.  
I dunno if Marantz has this same limitation or not.   :(


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Re: [slim] Hardware reset for Slimp3: Can anyone help with resetting Xilinx chip?

2009-01-09 Thread seanadams

Mark Lanctot;381660 Wrote: 
 Huh!  Out of interest since Sean's responded to this thread, what did
 the CPLD in SLIMP3 and presumably the SB1 do?  Just run firmware?
 

These xc95... CPLDs are very small logic devices relative to most of
the parts that Xilinx makes. They are not processors running software,
they are actually just an array of simple logic gates. I use them
mostly for glue logic, for example inverting or delaying a signal,
selecting between different clock sources, converting i2s to left
justified, IO multiplexing, etc.

SLIMP3 has the largest CPLD of any of the products - it is has a DMA
controller implemented in the CPLD, in order to offload from its tiny
CPU the work of pumping audio data from the ethernet chip to the buffer
RAM and then serializing it out to the decoder. 

 
 The hardware comparison wiki page:
 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/HardwareComparison
 
 shows that the decoder in SLIMP3 was a Micronas MAS3507D, in SB1 a
 Micronas MAS3539, but that in SB2 and later was software-based. 
 Presumably this is SlimDSP, and I understood this was done in the CPLD
 so that new codecs could be added.

the CPLDs in each o the products are:

SLIMP3: xc95144 (DMA controller, SRAM interface, bitstream output to
decoder)
Squeezebox1: none (relatively fast CPU connected directly to decoder -
did not need DMA or glue)
Squeezebox2, 3, Boom, Receiver: xc9536xl (clock selection and s/pdif
encoding - more features for handling raw PCM properly)
Transporter: xc9572xl, similar functions as SB2/3, but a lot more of
them eg s/pdif input


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread ThomP

badbob;381745 Wrote: 
 They're actually pretty cheap. If you think Logitechs are expensive,
 don't find out how much these cost.
 
 http://www.crestron.co.uk/products/view.aspx?cat=1333id=1258
 
 My CI who sells Harmony hates Harmony remotes. I found Harmony software
 pretty awful to use.
 
 Good god I just found out the price.a bargain at £12,526.68

Why on earth are you comparing a remote control to a PC?? The Harmony
is also cheaper than a Mercedes!


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread spc337

The Marantz ZS5300 looks perfect, thanks for the info.  Given the room
is a loft, I'm really just distributing music and don't require
different music in each zone simultaneously.  I may go with the Duet
Solution so I have a WiFi controller.

I noticed that someone said they were controlling the Marantz from the
SB remote.  I didn't know that was possible.  Any more info on that
solution would be great.

Thanks

Sean


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

That Crestron is a remote conrol.


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Re: [slim] Hardware reset for Slimp3: Can anyone help with resetting Xilinx chip?

2009-01-09 Thread Mark Lanctot

Ah, so the CPLD is not actually the decoder, the decoder is separate.

Understood, thanks Sean!


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

That Crestron is a remote control but you still need processor and
gateway. Quite costly ;-)

But as a system, it's the dogs danglies.


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[slim] Anybody know what this means?

2009-01-09 Thread TurnipFarmer

Just did a scan of looking for new music and this popped up in the
scanner log, anybody know what it means?


[09-01-09 18:04:09.3486] Slim::Schema::mergeVariousArtistsAlbums (1366)
Warning: Use of uninitialized value in sprintf at
/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\scanner.exeSlim/Schema.pm line 1366.


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Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool

2009-01-09 Thread Peter
Robin Bowes wrote:
 Hi all,

 Net::UDAP is a Perl module to configure the SqueezeBox Receiver (SBR) 
 from a PC, i.e. without requiring a SqueezeBox Controller (SBC).

 The project homepage is here:

 http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-UDAP

 Net::UDAP was originally released in June 2008 and there have been no 
 significant changes since then. However, I've recently updated the 
 documentation so thought I'd post this announcement in case anyone tried 
 it previously but got stuck for whatever reason.
   

I've 'compiled' this version with perlapp from the Activestate Perl PDK. 
The resulting executable is a probably bit easier to user for the average
SB user. You can put it up on the Net-UDAP page if you want.

http://slim2lirc.myown.mailcan.com/udap_shell_1_0_0.exe

Regards,
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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

How would you duplicate the RCA outputs from SB into all six channels? I
don't think using a stereo RCA pair to three Y splitters is a good idea.


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread toby10

badbob;381810 Wrote: 
 How would you duplicate the RCA outputs from SB into all six channels? I
 don't think using a stereo RCA pair to three Y splitters is a good idea.

One SB3 input = 3 Zone output


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread aubuti

toby10;381778 Wrote: 
 Same with the Yamaha AVR's with multi-zones.  I know the 1800's are
 being blown out for around $600.
 Models RX-V:
 1700
 2700
 1800
 3800
 
 The catch with the Yamaha's Zone usage is that Zones only work with an
 analog input source.  i.e.  Optical out of an SB3 into a Yamaha will
 not output audio to Zones 2  3.  
 I dunno if Marantz has this same limitation or not.   :(
 EDIT:  Yes, the Marantz is also limited to analog inputs.  In case it
 matters.   :)
This means that the catch with the Yamaha could actually be a
feature. The outputs on SB3s and SBRs are all always active. So one
could feed an SB digital out to the amp's digital input, and the analog
output to one of the other zone's analog inputs. That would still mean 1
y-splitter to get both zones 2  3, but that's a lot better than 2
splitters.

Unless you were saying that using the digital input on the Yamaha
prevents *any* use of the analog inputs for zones 2  3.


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

toby10;381815 Wrote: 
 One SB3 input = 3 Zone output

Obviously. 
Lexicon MC-12 has 3 zone outputs.


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread toby10

aubuti;381817 Wrote: 
 This means that the catch with the Yamaha could actually be a feature.
 The outputs on SB3s and SBRs are all always active. So one could feed an
 SB digital out to the amp's digital input, and the analog output to one
 of the other zone's analog inputs. That would still mean 1 y-splitter
 to get both zones 2  3, but that's a lot better than 2 splitters.
 
 Unless you were saying that using the digital input on the Yamaha
 prevents *any* use of the analog inputs for zones 2  3.

Digital inputs (HDMI, digital coax, optical) on the Yamaha cannot be
used to output audio to Zones 2  3.  This limitation has no effect on
analog inputs.

example:
SB3  optical  Yamaha = playable only in main zone
SB3  analog L-R  Yamaha = playable in ALL zones, or any combination
of zones

The nice thing about such zones (albeit with the limitations) is that
these zones are also independent of the main zone from a single AVR.

example of simultaneous zone play:
Main Zone = SB3
Zone 2 = FM tuner
Zone 3 = CD player


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread toby10

badbob;381819 Wrote: 
 Obviously. 
 Lexicon MC-12 has 3 zone outputs.

So why do you think you need splitters?   :)


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

Splitters are bad mmkay. But then that Lexicon MC-12 is a bit expensive,
but you want the same thing, with three line out/record outputs. I know
the Audiolab 8000S integrated amp has three tape loops but not sure if
it can output three signals at the same time.

Ideally though want some kind of QED like distribition box. Unless the
Marantz has some kind of feature to duplicate channels, like Arcam's
Monolink.


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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread toby10

badbob;381833 Wrote: 
 Splitters are bad mmkay..

Obviously.   :)

The whole point of these zone devices is to avoid such Y splitters.


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread ThomP

badbob;381794 Wrote: 
 That Crestron is a remote conrol.

Then why do they call it a media center? My pc can control other
devices as well, but that doesn't make it a remote control.

Of course you can call it whatever you want, but it's nonsense to
compare it to a Harmony.

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[slim] Playlists

2009-01-09 Thread jdbaker

I have given up on SC using my iTunes library, something got out of wack
and SC can no longer find my songs and playlists using iTunes xml. I
have now pointed SC directly to my music directory and all is well
except playlists. I found a program that will convert xml to .m3u and
it seems to work well. This is where it gets complicated, SC is on a
different computer than iTunes, my music library is on an external hd
connected to the SC computer. The SC computer lists the ex. hd as Music
HD (H:) The iTunes computer lists the ex. hd as Music HD(H)(\\DOUG)(M:).
Itunes writes the playlist file as M:\iTunes\iTunes Music\Band Of Blacky
Ranchette\Still Lookin' Good To Me\01 The Train Singer's Song.m4a and SC
can not find the song, if I switch the M: to H: SC can find the song.
The SC computer is XP, Itunes computer is Vista. Does anyone have a
solution, I really like building playlists in iTunes and the new genius
feature is pretty cool. 
Thanks,

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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

You're right the Crestron is another league. They're fantastic pieces of
kit. Way way out of my price range. 

Personally I wouldn't buy Harmony, I'd get a Pronto 9400, but I'd still
prefer remote with more hard buttons.


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Re: [slim] Playlists

2009-01-09 Thread MeSue

Use UNC paths instead of drive letters.
http://www.uwplatt.edu/oit/terms/uncpath.html


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Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market

2009-01-09 Thread jt25741

No native FLAC in the player?   Transcoding necesssary.802.11n will
be needed even more pushing around uncompressed filesgood for the
business of anyone who sells such devices :)


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Re: [slim] Playlists

2009-01-09 Thread jdbaker

Sue,

Thanks for the quick reply, unfortunately I have no idea how to create
these UNC paths. Did a quick Google search and what came up was
definitely over my head, any suggestions on how to go about this. I
think this will also create the situation where I will have to rescan
the music directory in iTunes, every time I do this I lose artwork and
have to manually input it, a huge pain, anyone know a fix for that.

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[slim] Drobo -what is it?

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

Is it a NAS? A USB HD? It seems quite cheap if it's a 4 bay NAS.


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Re: [slim] Drobo -what is it?

2009-01-09 Thread TomS

Simplistically (that's all I can provide), it is a mutant-RAID USB data
store.  It's nice in that you can mix and match disk sizes and it will
take care of the redundancy for you and grow things as you swap/add
bigger drives.

It can be a NAS by adding their ethernet add-on.

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[slim] TOSLINK Or Coaxial Cable - SqueezeBox Classic (3) To DACMagic

2009-01-09 Thread jbloggs

I was wondering if there was any difference (in quality) between using a
coaxial or toslink connection from a SquzzeBox Classic (3) to a
DACMagic; and if one is better than the other, could someone please
recommend a decent make of cable to use.

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Re: [slim] Drobo -what is it?

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

lol over flakey unreliable USB. No thanks. Does it have esata? Rather
have that by a long mile.


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Re: [slim] TOSLINK Or Coaxial Cable - SqueezeBox Classic (3) To DACMagic

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

Coaxial. Cheaper and more robust cable.


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Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool

2009-01-09 Thread Robin Bowes
Peter wrote:

 I've 'compiled' this version with perlapp from the Activestate Perl PDK. 
 The resulting executable is a probably bit easier to user for the average
 SB user. You can put it up on the Net-UDAP page if you want.
 
 http://slim2lirc.myown.mailcan.com/udap_shell_1_0_0.exe

Thanks for this.

Any idea about the licensing implications? i.e. is it freely distributable?

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Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool

2009-01-09 Thread Robin Bowes
Robin Bowes wrote:
 Peter wrote:
 
 I've 'compiled' this version with perlapp from the Activestate Perl PDK. 
 The resulting executable is a probably bit easier to user for the average
 SB user. You can put it up on the Net-UDAP page if you want.

 http://slim2lirc.myown.mailcan.com/udap_shell_1_0_0.exe
 
 Thanks for this.
 
 Any idea about the licensing implications? i.e. is it freely distributable?

Hmmm, I get the variable not initialised msgs when I ran this the 
first time, but it was OK with code direct from the RELEASE_1.0.0 tag 
and also the second time I ran this executable. I wonder what causes that?

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Re: [slim] TOSLINK Or Coaxial Cable - SqueezeBox Classic (3) To DACMagic

2009-01-09 Thread jbloggs

badbob;381870 Wrote: 
 Coaxial. Cheaper and more robust cable.

Cheers..


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Re: [slim] Playlists

2009-01-09 Thread MeSue

I know... I was scared of them at first too. But now that I understand
them it makes life much easier, especially in Squeezebox land. They are
nothing that you have to create--they already exist on your system...
you just have to find out what the UNC path is for your music folder. 

In Vista, if you type Network in the address bar of Windows Explorer,
you should see all you networked computers, then you can drill down to
the folder level and it should show you the UNC path when you click in
the address bar. It will be something like:
\\computername\sharename\\folder

Not sure about iTunes as I don't use it.


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Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market

2009-01-09 Thread Jonnio

jt25741;381856 Wrote: 
 No native FLAC in the player?   Transcoding necesssary.802.11n will
 be needed even more pushing around uncompressed filesgood for the
 business of anyone who sells such devices :)

Nah, they just compress that silly lossless file :)


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Re: [slim] Drobo -what is it?

2009-01-09 Thread whoosh

Their site also shows that it's FireWire 800 capable. Very
interesting...


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[slim] ANNOUNCEMENT: Transporter Rack Mount Kit Now Available!

2009-01-09 Thread mvalera

Get them while they're hot!

https://secure.slimdevices.com/products.php?product=Transporter-Rack-Mount-Kit

Mike


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Re: [slim] Anybody know what this means?

2009-01-09 Thread Dogberry2

It means somebody did a lazy job of coding that routine in
SqueezeCenter. Most likely nothing for you to worry about, however.
Just sloppy programming.


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Re: [slim] Playlists

2009-01-09 Thread jdbaker

Sue,

Thanks again, I think I understand the idea behind the UNC paths but I
do not know how to implement that into my setup. My problem is trying
to get iTunes to write the xml file to reference the UNC path instead
of the M: drive, I can not find any way to manually enter the UNC path
to the music folder, all that shows up is the hard drive letters. Might
have to go back to iTunes control in SC if I can get that working. UNC
paths might help there.

DB


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Re: [slim] Drobo -what is it?

2009-01-09 Thread Goodsounds

badbob;381868 Wrote: 
 ...flakey unreliable USB

I've never heard anyone describe USB this way. I'd be curious to hear
more


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Re: [slim] Hardware reset for Slimp3: Can anyone help with resetting Xilinx chip?

2009-01-09 Thread roboele

seanadams;381788 Wrote: 
 These xc95... CPLDs are very small logic devices relative to most of the
 parts that Xilinx makes. They are not processors running software, they
 are actually just an array of simple logic gates. I use them mostly for
 glue logic, for example inverting or delaying a signal, selecting
 between different clock sources, converting i2s to left justified, IO
 multiplexing, etc.
 
 

Excuse my ignorance, but does the 'I use them mostly ...' indicate you
have been involved in the development of Slim devices?
If so, do you know if it is possible to get hand on the Slimp3 xc95
config (JEDEC files or in other formats)?

Support was not able to help me out, but given the config is available
I could check with the Xilinx agent here in Norway and see if they have
a rig and is willing to help me out uploading it.


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Re: [slim] Playlists

2009-01-09 Thread MeSue

I don't have iTunes on Windows... hopefully someone who does can help
you with that part.


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Re: [slim] Drobo -what is it?

2009-01-09 Thread badbob

USB relies on drivers and chipsets. Had problems with certain devices,
on certain PC's, same devices are fine on other PC's. Just bought two
USB sticks, on one PC it disappears, but works fine on the other. Other
USB devices work fine on either, such as mice and gaming controllers.
Also had couple of USB drives and sometimes act up depending on phase
of the moon. Lost data and partitions on USB HD. But another USB HD
with exactly the same chipset has had no problems. Do a search for
Pro-Lofic 3507 USB chipset.

Also problems with USB printers. Motherboard chipsets are installed on
both.

USB is too tempremental to trust data storage. Reason why I used NAS's
instead of USB hard drives.


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Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market

2009-01-09 Thread HectorHughMunro

jt25741;381856 Wrote: 
 No native FLAC in the player?   Transcoding necesssary.802.11n will
 be needed even more pushing around uncompressed filesgood for the
 business of anyone who sells such devices :)

Yes, that is a major problem.


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Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market

2009-01-09 Thread JJZolx

HectorHughMunro;381942 Wrote: 
 Yes, that is a major problem.

I've played around with streaming Flac as WAV/PCM on my server and can
easily stream to four sync'd Squeezeboxes while doing this (never tried
more than that).  Typically, Flac compression only nets about 30-40% in
increased storage space or bandwidth, so if your wireless network can't
handle streaming uncompressed PCM, it's probably pretty marginal to
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Re: [slim] SB3 and Rega Apollo CD remotes interfere with each other

2009-01-09 Thread mvalera

Or your could use a Squeezebox Controller or one of the three
commercially available iPhone/iPod touch apps to control your
Squeezebox.

Mike


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Re: [slim] Replacement remote for Squeezebox

2009-01-09 Thread deserttaxguy

Its very unresponsive and balks at just about every entry on the push
buttons. My first inclination was to replace the batteries, but thats
not helping. This thread about replacing the remote hasn't helped
suggest whether a new one is required or not. If you haven't dropped
either the remote or the squeezebox, what happens to make the remote
stop working?
I cant stand this remote, so lets get some alternatives or the
replacement if thats required up on the site so you can buy one please.
Thank you.


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[slim] Internet Media Device Alliance

2009-01-09 Thread vinnielo

The inaugural meeting of the Internet Media Device Alliance took place
yesterday, with invites for interested parties to join the alliance.
http://www.imdalliance.org/

Did anyone from the Logitech Squeezebox team attend?


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Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool

2009-01-09 Thread Howard Passman

peter;381812 Wrote: 
 Robin Bowes wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Net::UDAP is a Perl module to configure the SqueezeBox Receiver (SBR)
 
  from a PC, i.e. without requiring a SqueezeBox Controller (SBC).
 
  The project homepage is here:
 
  http://projects.robinbowes.com/Net-UDAP
 
  Net::UDAP was originally released in June 2008 and there have been no
 
  significant changes since then. However, I've recently updated the 
  documentation so thought I'd post this announcement in case anyone
 tried 
  it previously but got stuck for whatever reason.

 
 I've 'compiled' this version with perlapp from the Activestate Perl
 PDK. 
 The resulting executable is a probably bit easier to user for the
 average
 SB user. You can put it up on the Net-UDAP page if you want.
 
 http://slim2lirc.myown.mailcan.com/udap_shell_1_0_0.exe
 
 Regards,
 Peter

Hi Peter,

I got your UI to work, but am not sure how to change parameters.  I
assumed set then the parameter name and then the value, but that
wasn't it.  Could you give us less technical folks a hint about how to
change or set parameters.

Also, it appears you have to reset the device to default in order to
get in to it.  If someone wanted to change one parameter is it possible
for you to make is so we could discover a specific MAC address or ip?

Thanks to you and Robin for all the work.  My only comment is the folks
that really need this (first time users of the SBR) probably won't be
able to use the tool unless you come up with a much easier UI.

Thanks,

Howard


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Re: [slim] Playlists

2009-01-09 Thread jdbaker

I think I have a way to solve the problem, I will re-map the music hard
drive on the SC computer to the M: drive so it will be the same letter
to SC and iTunes. The problem is I will have to rescan the music
library in iTunes, every time I do this I lose art work and have to
manually re-enter some of the album art work. Does someone have a work
around for this?

DB


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Re: [slim] Internet Media Device Alliance

2009-01-09 Thread Bill Burns
vinnielo wrote:
 The inaugural meeting of the Internet Media Device Alliance took place
 yesterday, with invites for interested parties to join the alliance.
 http://www.imdalliance.org/

That's another one of those domain names that needs a hyphen, like 
expertsexchange.com

Unless it really *is* a cover for people arranging affairs by instant 
messaging...

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Re: [slim] Multi-room listening

2009-01-09 Thread linvale

My amp is hidden away in a central location but connected to the main
squeezebox 3 through via a cable from the output port to the ir flasher
input on the marantz. The marantz commands are stored via the ir
learning part of the ir blaster plugin. The raw on off and volume
commands from the controller work to control the global zone in my set
up - but am working on individual zone controls at present. IR pass
through allows you to access all the amp features by just pointing the
original remote at the attached squeezeboxsounds great by the way.


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Re: [slim] Drobo -what is it?

2009-01-09 Thread TomS

FWIW, it uses SATA (SATA I or SATA II) drives internally, and if you use
the droboshare (ethernet adapter) you will have a USB connection between
the drobo (drives) and the droboshare (ethernet).

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Re: [slim] Which Web Browser do you use

2009-01-09 Thread Evan_E


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56180

Question: Which Browser do you use?

- Firefox 2.x
- Firefox 3.x
- Internet Explorer 6.x
- Internet Explorer 7.x
- AOL Browser
- Opera (any version)
- Safari (any version)
- Google Chrome (BETA)
- Internet Explorer 8 (BETA)
- Other


twynne;371942 Wrote: 
 Mac user here so for most sites Safari/Firefox.  The browser that I use
 to access SC most often though is Fluid.  I have it set up in a
 site-specific menu bar browser and it works *really* well.Wow - I hadn't 
 heard of this before. What a great idea.


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Re: [slim] Drobo -what is it?

2009-01-09 Thread MelonMonkey

badbob;381930 Wrote: 
 USB relies on drivers and chipsets.

So does SATA and so too does every single piece of hardware in, and
plugged into, every computer on the planet.

Drobo customers have experienced their fair share of issues.  I can't
recall having ever heard of one due to USB incompatibilities.

To run Drobo with Firewire800 in Windows at a reasonable speed you'll
be limited to 2TB and you should use a UNIBRAIN firewire card with
UNIBRAIN drivers.  Windows stock drivers can only work at Firewire400
speeds.  And the Drobo on Windows with FW400 is about the same as USB.


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[slim] ipeng native and XM radio

2009-01-09 Thread jmanings

First the good news...

Ipeng Rocks! And I can actually use the XM plugin again on
SqueezeCenter v 7.3

However...while i can see and use XM under the internet radio tab in
squeezecenter on my pc and SB3, I do not see it in ipeng. It should
show up at the top right above staff picks.

Any idea if im doing something wrong? Or if it is not part of ipeng? 

I did flush the cache after installing the plugin


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Re: [slim] Drobo -what is it?

2009-01-09 Thread Goodsounds

badbob;381930 Wrote: 
 USB relies on drivers and chipsets. Had problems with certain devices,
 on certain PC's, same devices are fine on other PC's. Just bought two
 USB sticks, on one PC it disappears, but works fine on the other. Other
 USB devices work fine on either, such as mice and gaming controllers.
 Also had couple of USB drives and sometimes act up depending on phase
 of the moon. Lost data and partitions on USB HD. But another USB HD
 with exactly the same chipset has had no problems. Do a search for
 Pro-Lofic 3507 USB chipset.
 
 Also problems with USB printers. Motherboard chipsets are installed on
 both.
 
 USB is too tempremental to trust data storage. Reason why I used NAS's
 instead of USB hard drives.

I'd be curious to know what kind of hardware you are having these
experiences with. Is Pro-Lofic a top drawer semiconductor parts
supplier? Maybe not the case with them, but you probably know there is
a lot of crap that winds up getting into the marketplace from lower
tier suppliers. People buy it based on price - crap is cheaper than
reliable stuff - not knowing that the quality may not be what they were
expecting.

Again, maybe not the case for you, but just asking, because your
experience seems quite unusual to me. Also unusual for someone to know
what kind of USB chips are in their PC.


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Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market

2009-01-09 Thread jt25741

JJZolx;381944 Wrote: 
 I've played around with streaming Flac as WAV/PCM on my server and can
 easily stream to four sync'd Squeezeboxes while doing this (never tried
 more than that).  Typically, Flac compression only nets about 30-40% in
 increased storage space or bandwidth, so if your wireless network can't
 handle streaming uncompressed PCM, it's probably pretty marginal to
 begin with.

Wifi tends to be quite variable -- sometimes strong, with good
throughput, sometimes not so strong.The maximum numbers for n/g/a
are highly idealized and rarely even closely obtained.   For
instance... a microwave oven goes on in the house, the APs negotiate a
much lower transmission speed during this time.   Saving 30%-50% of the
bandwidth necessary to move a file around can mean buffers don't deplete
during these typical drop-offs etc.  

Granted it doesn't take much to stream CD WAV files around
uncompressed, and if that is all you are doing it is likely either hit
or miss.   But once you put a couple PCs in the house on the same
wireless network, a  NMT streaming DTS SD Video those bits of
bandwidth become even more scarce.Keep in mind all these wireless
technologies are simplex as well. Even a relatively good signal
negotiated at 20mbps compared to the state of the art network gear from
12 or more years ago (100mb Switched full duplex) giving full duplex
200mb bandwidth per station, the difference can be huge.


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[slim] Squeezebox Classic Promo Code

2009-01-09 Thread rfreedman

I just purchased a black Squeezebox Classic from the Logitech Squeezebox
Store (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html).

While I was looking on the web for the lowest price, I found the promo
code blackisbest (unfortunately, I can't remember now where I found
it).

I entered the promo code at the store, and sure enough, I got a price
of $249


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Re: [slim] TOSLINK Or Coaxial Cable - SqueezeBox Classic (3) To DACMagic

2009-01-09 Thread stuart


jbloggs wrote:
 I was wondering if there was any difference (in quality) between using a
 coaxial or toslink connection from a SquzzeBox Classic (3) to a
 DACMagic; and if one is better than the other, could someone please
 recommend a decent make of cable to use.
 
 Thanks.

For once it doesn't matter - they are both digital.  Save your money for 
fat speaker cables!

Enough said, but if you like reading this kind of stuff:

Really, you either get the digital signal or you don't.  Maybe, just 
maybe, if you have a badly wired house (that is the outlets are at 
different ground potential) and you go plugging your equipment in these 
different outlets you may succumb to ground loop problems.  Then the 
optical toslink (aka spdiff) cable would be safer.  However, someone is 
sure to point out that the SqueezeBox uses a wall wart and, as such, 
probably has a floating ground.

Coax cables are easier to find and are much cheaper.  And, you are more 
likely to find coax switching boxes in case you run out of coax toslink 
inputs on your stereo.  On the other hand, most stereos I have see only 
have 1 coax toslink input and several optical toslink input.  So it 
usually is more convenient to hook up everything using the optical cables.

I've bought moderately priced and cheap optical cables.  The only 
difference I see is that the cheap cable ends are molded on where as the 
more expensive ends are built form parts.  I guess if you were going to 
un-plug and plug in your equipment all the time the better cables will 
survive longer. For me, the cheap ones work fine.






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[slim] SqueezeCenter stream.mp3 out of sync with Squeezebox Boom

2009-01-09 Thread davedash

I'm using 7.3.1 on my ReadyNas and the stream.mp3 is horribly out of
sync with my SqueezeboxBoom.  Is there a way to adjust this?


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Re: [slim] TOSLINK Or Coaxial Cable - SqueezeBox Classic (3) To DACMagic

2009-01-09 Thread Skinny

st2000 Wrote: 
 
 For once it doesn't matter - they are both digital. Save your money for
 fat speaker cables!
 
I'm with you on that. Bits will be bits.

st2000 Wrote: 
 
 Maybe, just maybe, if you have a badly wired house (that is the outlets
 are at different ground potential) and you go plugging your equipment in
 these different outlets you may succumb to ground loop problems. Then
 the optical toslink (aka spdiff) cable would be safer. 
 
With you on that as well.

Just so set some of the terminology straight, no offense:)

The name of the plugs on optical cable is TosLink (something Toshiba
developed).
S/PDIF (Sony / Philips Digital Interconnect Format just describes the
protocol used to transfer audio digitally. The same data is transmitted
in both TosLink cables and coaxial ones, they are both used for S/PDIF.
An S/PDIF cable could then be either one.


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Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool

2009-01-09 Thread Peter
Robin Bowes wrote:
 Peter wrote:

   
 I've 'compiled' this version with perlapp from the Activestate Perl PDK. 
 The resulting executable is a probably bit easier to user for the average
 SB user. You can put it up on the Net-UDAP page if you want.

 http://slim2lirc.myown.mailcan.com/udap_shell_1_0_0.exe
 

 Thanks for this.

 Any idea about the licensing implications? i.e. is it freely distributable?
   

I have a license for the compiler, so I can distribute the executable. 
That means I can share it with anyone I want. That's fairly standard for 
compilers. Perlapp isn't really a compiler though. It bundles the Perl 
compiler and the libraries used inside the exe-package and unpacks it 
all before running. That's why you'll notice that the start up time is 
slower because of the unpacking.

I know the Logitech guys use perlapp for packaging SqueezeCenter, so 
they could have packed it for you too. Even better, they could also make 
an OS-X executable.

Regards,
Peter

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Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool

2009-01-09 Thread Peter
Howard Passman wrote:
 Hi Peter,

 I got your UI to work, but am not sure how to change parameters.  I
 assumed set then the parameter name and then the value, but that
 wasn't it.  Could you give us less technical folks a hint about how to
 change or set parameters.

 Also, it appears you have to reset the device to default in order to
 get in to it.  If someone wanted to change one parameter is it possible
 for you to make is so we could discover a specific MAC address or ip?

 Thanks to you and Robin for all the work.  My only comment is the folks
 that really need this (first time users of the SBR) probably won't be
 able to use the tool unless you come up with a much easier UI.
   

Howard,

I didn't create the UI, Robin deserves all credit for that. I just 
compiled the program in an easily distributable Windows exe format. I 
agree that the UI should (and could) be much easier. I could create a 
Windows wizard myzelf (with the wxPerl library) but I really don't have 
the time to spare. I also figure that this is really a task for the 
Logitech guys. I don't understand how they get away with selling the SBR 
as a separate product without providing a simple setup tool with it. 
Open Source does not mean you let your users do all the work.

I can design one, though.
- Start the wizard
- A list of detected SBRs is displayed, select one
- Q: Ethernet or Wireless

Wireless:
WEP or WPA?
- Enter WEP/WPA key
- Enter SSID

Wireless/Ethernet:
DHCP or manual?
- Enter IP
- Enter netmask
- Enter gateway
- Enter squeezecenter server

- Save settings

That wasn't so hard ;)
A few days work added to the stuff Robin already did.

Regards,
Peter


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Re: [slim] ANNOUNCEMENT: Transporter Rack Mount Kit Now Available!

2009-01-09 Thread Peter
mvalera wrote:
 Get them while they're hot!

 https://secure.slimdevices.com/products.php?product=Transporter-Rack-Mount-Kit
   

50 bucks for two brackets and a few screws?
I hope they're audiophile certified ;)

Regards,
Peter

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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Reviews

2009-01-09 Thread Peter
dean wrote:
 Hi All,

 There's a new feature up on the Logitech web site which lets customers
 submit reviews of Logitech products.  You can see the current set of
 reviews for Squeezebox (only three at this point) here:

 http://reviews.logitech.com/7061/230521/category.htm

 We'd love to see more here, so feel free to jump on over to the
 specific product pages and weigh in:

   
 Receiver:
 http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/wireless_music_systems/devices/4098
   

I wanted to complain about the lack of controller-less setup on that 
(Dutch) page, but there wasn't a review option. There's also an error in 
the specs. It says you need to have either a Duet of a Squeezebox 
Classic for the setup, but you and I know that someone with just a 
'Classic' cannot setup the SBR unless he uses Robin's app, which is not 
really that friendly for novices.

Quote: Een Logitech® Squeezebox™ Duet of Squeezebox™ is vereist voor de 
netwerkset-up.

Regards,
Peter

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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter stream.mp3 out of sync with Squeezebox Boom

2009-01-09 Thread bpa

NO - stream.mp3 cannot be synced as it cannot control the buffer size or
state (e.g. play / pause) of the player of stream.mp3


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