[slim] Boom and Duet nominated on Engadget 2008 awards !

2009-03-26 Thread remd

The Logitech Squeezebox Boom and Logitech Squeezebox Duet have been
nominated for Engadget's Home Entertainment Device of the Year 

You can vote for them if you want to, at this page:
http://www.engadget.com/engadget-awards-2008/


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Re: [slim] transporter re buffering

2009-03-26 Thread David C

Thanks for the advice. I changed the router to up to 270 mps (netgear
dgn 2000) and it seems fine. Will have to wait and test it a bit more.
I cant go wired as it is 2 rooms away from the transporter.


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[slim] Any plans on official magnatune support?

2009-03-26 Thread signor_rossi

...with streaming and download membership integration? I have seen that
there is a plugin already, but that does only allow to listen to
preview streams so far (gonna try it now). Amarok2 for example already
has full support (but it still crashes on me ;) and I can't send the
music to my stereo).

SignorRossi.


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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread awy

ianr;410151 Wrote: 
 
 Now that AACPlus is the defacto for iTunes purchases, has there been
 any thought given to implementing either native support or at the very
 least FF/RW functionality for these files? 
 

SC 7.3.3 will come with AAC/AAC+ support out of the box, using
server-side transcoding using faad2. There will not be native codec
support in the players: there is no more space in the firmware.

Unfortunately, there will not be FF/RW support in this release. Note
that this issue is independent of native codec support as FF/RW
functionality is always implemented in SC, not the player.


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Re: [slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2009-03-26 Thread awy

Yes, no space in the firmware is the reason for no native codec.

But that has nothing to do with FF/RW as this is always done on the
server.

Also, it is not correct to say that transcoded formats cannot support
FF/RW (although that used to be the case before SC 7.3). But to support
FF/RW, either SC's file-format handler for the specific format in use,
or the transcoder program being used, needs to understand how to do
seeking in the format. That is not currently the case for AAC/AAC+.
Patches welcome (to faad2).

To the OP: there should at least be a better error message (any error
message) on the controller in these circumstances.


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Re: [slim] Any plans on official magnatune support?

2009-03-26 Thread ModelCitizen

Whaaat? You just got Napster and now you're after another one already?
:-)

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Re: [slim] Last.fm becoming pay-service.

2009-03-26 Thread pippin

RyanS;410146 Wrote: 
 This stinks - yet could turn out to be a growing trend on the web
 forcing us to pay to listen and enjoy the big conglomerates music.
 
 We can all say don't listen to their music and boycott, but ppl have
 said that for years and we still love/consume their content!
 
 I think we might have to get use to paying for what we got used to not
 paying for.

I would see this a bit more differentiated.
Last.fm for me is radio, I have no direct control over what it plays,
so I don't want to pay for it.
Especially since Correct me, but could it be their quality has
really suffered recently? I always get the same 30 artists or so, no
matter what the start parameters is I set.
And they don't care a lot anymore what I enter, I've already banned
four Pussycat Dolls songs today, doesn't matter, they still keep
coming up.

I'm certainly not going to pay for THAT...

On the other hand: A service like Napster where I can play what I want
and which spares me buying a lot of stuff I don't _really_ want but
would like to listen to once or so.
For this I fully understand they have to charge since it costs record
companies real money plus I get a real value for my money so I think
it's OK to pay.


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Re: [slim] mp3HD

2009-03-26 Thread Skinny

servies;41 Wrote: 
 And why o why would that be the case...

Oh 'chute, I really managed to make a mess of my last post, it seems! I
couldn't have structured it any worse or made it any more confusing
talking back and forth about flac and mp3HD without making any clear
references. What I wanted to say was:

1. I would absolutely prefer buying FLAC files from music stores. But
they aren't widely available. One big reason is that 95% of iPod users
would just go What the FLAC?!

1.1 In this sense, mp3HD would make sense. Advanced users could buy it
because of the lossless audio, and maybe some because it works om my
iPod and hey, it says HD. The latter bunch would obviously be
screwed over in a way..

2. I don't see any point in anyone with even a little knowledge
maintaining their music library in mp3HD.

3. For music stores it's a format that's directly compatible with
existing mp3 players, so no one could complain about not being able to
listen to it.

skinny Wrote: 
 Converting to FLAC would be no problem for me. Someone just pretty much did 
 it (without the FLAC part) to prove it's
lossless..

servies;41 Wrote: 
 What makes you think it won't have any form of copyprotection for the HD
 part...

Does copyright actually differentiate between lossy and lossless? The
legacy mp3 part is not CP:ed, so why should the lossless part be?

Anyway, in case they would decide to introduce unfair use stuff to the
lossless portion, there would still be the CD-DA workaround. There
would absolutely have to be a way of burning lossless - CD-DA for
mp3HD sales to make the slightest sense. And yes, I've made my fair
number of burn-rip tests to convince MYSELF (and that's well enough for
ME, thank you) that I get 1:1 lossless perfect results every time that
way. I could lose one or two samples (offset) in the process, but who
knows at what offset they were encoded originally?!

Now for the record, I don't think we need another format, since there
are better ones for both lossy and lossless purposes. I don't like
mp3HD. But if it becomes an easy way of purchasing lossless music, then
welcome as there's really nothing right now! And I don't see mp3HD
happening.

-Skinny


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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread gorman

I wonder what's the reasoning behind keeping Vorbis native and
transcoding AAC. While I don't use AAC at all and use Vorbis for
portable needs... I don't doubt that the market would far prefer the
opposite solution.


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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread funkstar

gorman;410221 Wrote: 
 I wonder what's the reasoning behind keeping Vorbis native and
 transcoding AAC. While I don't use AAC at all and use Vorbis for
 portable needs... I don't doubt that the market would far prefer the
 opposite solution.
Some idle speculation:
#8226; Perhaps the AAC/AAC+ decoder would be far larger than the Ogg
decoder, so there still wouldn't be space.
#8226; Ogg has issues in the amount of memory it uses, especially with
lower than 64bit recordings. Perhaps this is the same with AAC/AAC+? and
if that's the case, broken native support is going to cause more
problems than no native support will.
#8226; Perhaps, even with a bug free codec in the firmware, there
isn't enough processing power in the SB3/Receiver/Boom to run
everything and decode AAC/AAC+
#8226; There is also the time/cost factor in implementing this codec
in the firmware. I think the Ogg codec was a fairly simple port as
various decoders are readily available as it is. AAC/AAC+ might need
extensive reworking from faad2 to make it compatible with the Ubicom
processor. I believe it doesn't have a floating point unit, so only
integer maths is available. This heavily restricts what a codec can
do.

So as you can see, there are plenty of possible reasons why AAC/AAC+
and ALAC aren't included in the current lineup of players. Perhaps
adding codecs to some future player will be trivial, and everything
will be supported natively, who knows!

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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread gorman

In fact, I was simply wondering. Never thought there were no reasons.
Also, it could well be that, back then, with the grand majority of AAC
music being DRMed, SD thought useless to implement it natively.
The market, in this regard, has changed significantly.


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Re: [slim] Any plans on official magnatune support?

2009-03-26 Thread Moonbase

I agree Magnatune have a great selection of ambient/chillout music and I
quite like it. Watching them over a few years now, I think their library
is quite static.

It would still be nice to have some integration for

- the free listen
- the streaming membership
- and the download membership
  

Oh well. Maybe I particularly like that they support FLAC downloads.
:-) Unlimited downloads for $10/month can be quite a bargain if you
like that kind of music. And the musicians get 50%, which I like.


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Re: [slim] Vote! Logitech products up for devices of the year award on Engadget

2009-03-26 Thread Mark Lanctot

Matt:

You may want to give people more than 6 hours' notice.  ;-)


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Re: [slim] Stop Mac (Leapord) from sleeping while Squeezebox is running

2009-03-26 Thread Peter Stockwell

I recently got a squeezebox and am running squeezecenter on a mac. I've
taken to closing the terminal application that opens when squeezecenter
starts up. Is this a good or a bad thing ?

I have the problem that when the mac sleeps then the streaming to the
squeezebox stops. Would leaving terminal open prebent the mac going to
sleep?

Do I have to download another application and set a script in
Squeezecenter to fix my problem ?

Thanks

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Re: [slim] Vote! Logitech products up for devices of the year award on Engadget

2009-03-26 Thread Moonbase

Hooray for time zones of the world … I still managed to vote for the
Duet :-)

But yes, remember to let us know earlier next year! ;-)


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Re: [slim] Last.fm becoming pay-service.

2009-03-26 Thread autopilot

All i can say is, roll on Spotify support...


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread saturn

Bought the app yesterday and I must say it's the best :-)
One remark, please design a nice, smooth icon :-D


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Re: [slim] Any plans on official magnatune support?

2009-03-26 Thread signor_rossi

@Moonbase
There is already a squeezecenter plugin that makes free preview
listening from Magnatune possible.
http://magnaslim.sourceforge.net/
If you use 7.4 you have to adjust the maxVersion in install.xml and
copy it manually to the SC Plugin folder and it will work there too,
for previous versions you install it easily via the repository url.
As for clues how to implement advanced features, Amarok2 is open source
and could provide valuable help, and the Magantune website has also some
information on services integration (info link on their homepage).
I signed up for a 3 month (3 and 12 months and lifetime? is possible)
download membership yesterday and I think I certainly will find enough
music I like in these 3 months to justify the money I paid. They aren't
evil at all it seems... ;) They have over 600 albums atm.

@ModelCitizen
When did I get Napster?


SignorRossi.


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Re: [slim] Stop Mac (Leapord) from sleeping while Squeezebox is running

2009-03-26 Thread avta

Kalmdown:
Go to System Preferences and choose Energy Saver. There you will be
able to control sleeping.


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Re: [slim] Any plans on official magnatune support?

2009-03-26 Thread autopilot

The also periodically release pretty good full Lenny mixes as podcasts,
might be worth a look too...


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread Chunkywizard

I too am not a big fan of the 1.0.5 icon, but pippin does say above the
icon has changed for 1.1. Any chance of a preview Pippin?

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Re: [slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2009-03-26 Thread Jeff Flowerday

I'd vote for FF/RWD support in all transcoded formats.  AAC, WMA
Lossless etc.


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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread DoomWolf

I believe Spotify uses Ogg Vorbis for its streams, so there's a
potential larger use for Vorbis in the future.


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread pippin

saturn;410244 Wrote: 
 Bought the app yesterday and I must say it's the best :-)
 One remark, please design a nice, smooth icon :-D

I can't. I have two left feet on the end of my arms if it comes to
designing icons.
Suggestions welcome!

Chunkywizard;410256 Wrote: 
 I too am not a big fan of the 1.0.5 icon, but pippin does say above the
 icon has changed for 1.1. Any chance of a preview Pippin?
 
 CW

The new one is better, but just a bit...


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[slim] Odd power loss.

2009-03-26 Thread Gibbo

Hi,

wondering if anyone has a similar problem to me.

I have my SB3 setup next to my av receiver, the phono cable between the
2 is just about the right length which means whenever I move the
receiver (obviously not very often) the SB3 moves slightly as well,
when moving my stuff around the other day and hence getting to the
wires at the back of the receiver I noticed that when the SB is moved
all power is lost to it. the screen goes blank, I then have to kind of
wiggle it around until it starts back up again? must be a loose
connection somewhere. Is this a 'known' fault?


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread ASenna04

Pippin,

Is there a way to keep the wifi connected when the screen switches off?
I thought this was one of the restrictions imposed by Apple but then I
noticed that the Remote application has Stay connected option in the
settings. They say:

Staying connected speeds up wake time, but may decrease battery
life

I know it will affect battery performance, but I would still like to
have an option like that on iPeng so that I can choose to switch it
on.

Keep up the great work,

ASenna04


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Roland TD-9SX V-Tour Electronic Drum Set ..1500USD
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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread pippin

ASenna04;410275 Wrote: 
 
 Is there a way to keep the wifi connected when the screen switches off?
 
 

Yes. 1.1 has that option.


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread andynormancx

pippin;410134 Wrote: 
 There is no difference from a business point of view. Doesn't matter
 whether you pay for a codec (code) or access to a service that requires
 a codec (data).
Understood. However I thought that Apple had said that they didn't want
the paid add-ons enabling new functionality, just providing added data ?


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread pippin

andynormancx;410284 Wrote: 
 Understood. However I thought that Apple had said that they didn't want
 the paid add-ons enabling new functionality, just providing added data
 ?

Oh? Ok, didn't see that...


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Re: [slim] Odd power loss.

2009-03-26 Thread regalma1

I have the same problem wth my SB2. The coax power jacks tend to get
sloppy with use. Try wiggling the connector and see if the power goes
out.

To stop it happening you can try taping or somehow securing the DC
cable to the back of the unit leaving a loop of cable between the
connector and the tie point.


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread yesongs

Is there a trick or tip when using the power on / off button?

This appears to be the only key I'm having an issue with

I wait until I see a signal after waking up but it seems to take many
touches to turn on and off

I read above an update is coming, any info on how this can be
downloaded?

Thanks again, loving this app

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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread saturn

Hi, just a short question. The internet radio function is not longer
working in ipeng.

When I hit the internet radio button it's loading for a short while and
after that I get the error message Cannot connect to server. Please
check server availability or see help for server setup information.

Yesterday the internet radio was working fine, shoutcast, locals, you
name it but now I got that error. Restarted squeezecenter a couple of
times but no luck.

ipeng does connect to my squeezecenter as I can see the name of my
squeezebox in de lower left corner. Browsing my music dir is no
problem, playing music works fine. Any idea 'bout this one?


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread Chunkywizard

pippin;410270 Wrote: 
 I can't. I have two left feet on the end of my arms if it comes to
 designing icons.
 Suggestions welcome! 

I am sure we have budding artists amongst us. What's the dimensions of
the Icon? Also how many colours can you use?

CW


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread pippin

yesongs;410309 Wrote: 
 Is there a trick or tip when using the power on / off button?
 

Unfortunately I did not succeed in having a new one for 1.1. It's
another artwork issue. The problem is, it's too transparent. Will do
an update, maybe as a 1.1.1 or in 1.2 at latest.

The trick would be to try to hit something non-transparent. Sorry.

Chunkywizard;410315 Wrote: 
 I am sure we have budding artists amongst us. What's the dimensions of
 the Icon? Also how many colours can you use?
 

As many colors as you like, but I#d prefer something that uses my
scheme colors which means: Background is 0% red, 0% green, 10% blue and
the lightest foreground color is 90% red, 90% green, 100% blue.

Dimensions: I need two: 57x57 and 512x512, the small one may or may not
have a lense effect, iPhone does that, the big one must not have a
lense effect.

I've been planning to set up a little icon competition on
PenguinLovesMusic.com (price: an iPod touch or an SBR, let's see) but
didn't find the time, yet, to do this.

saturn;410319 Wrote: 
 Hi, just a short question. The internet radio function is not longer
 working in ipeng.
 

Have you tried to use internet radio from SqueezeCenter (the web
interface)?
Unfortunately the error message is a bit ambiguous (another thing that
will get better in 1.1), if you can use your local library it's
obviously not the connection to the server.
My guess would be either your server doesn't have an internet
connection or your SqueezeNetwork account is not set correctly in SC.


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-03-26 Thread saturn

pippin;410338 Wrote: 
 My guess would be either your server doesn't have an internet connection
 or your SqueezeNetwork account is not set correctly in SC.

Thnx, it was the SqueezeNetwork password, I reset it and forgot to
change it in SqueezeCenter :-)


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Re: [slim] Vote! Logitech products up for devices of the year award on Engadget

2009-03-26 Thread eganders

Kind of a pointless contest.  Gee, wonder if people are voting for
products they already own.  Do the voters know anything about the
competive products in their category?  Doubt it.

Yhid isn't really a contest.  It's more about telling engadget.com, and
their advertizers what their readers own or use, and might want to read
about.


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Re: [slim] all wireless SBs lost after restarting SC; wired SB ok

2009-03-26 Thread pski

SC pc is set for static IP? 

ifconfig


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Re: [slim] Odd power loss.

2009-03-26 Thread Nonreality

Gibbo;410268 Wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 wondering if anyone has a similar problem to me.
 
 I have my SB3 setup next to my av receiver, the phono cable between the
 2 is just about the right length which means whenever I move the
 receiver (obviously not very often) the SB3 moves slightly as well,
 when moving my stuff around the other day and hence getting to the
 wires at the back of the receiver I noticed that when the SB is moved
 all power is lost to it. the screen goes blank, I then have to kind of
 wiggle it around until it starts back up again? must be a loose
 connection somewhere. Is this a 'known' fault?

I had the exact same thing happening. It felt like the power cord on my
SB3 was plugged in nice and tight but if I moved it at all it would lose
connection and power off. I called support and they sent a new power
supply to me which has solved the problem.  They were very good about
it and sent it to me without having to send mine back first so that I
was never without use of my SB3. I don't think taping it would help as
it's in connecter. I'd give them a call.


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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread Nonreality

Ron F.;410166 Wrote: 
  My own library is in FLAC of course.

Of course, of course.  I'm sure no one here would think that you would
use any of those other lowly formats. Just think of the humiliation if
that wasn't so. :)


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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread Nonreality

samlw;72226 Wrote: 
 I think high-bitrate MP3 is the way I will have to go. In my experience,
 AAC sounds better and compresses better than MP3 at a given bitrate. So
 I have a personal preference for AAC over MP3.
From my experience and readings on hydrogenaudio.org what you are
saying is true up to about 160kbs.  When you get into the higher bit
rates you really can't tell any difference between mp3, ogg or aac. 
There may be differences in size but it's really not much at all.  Try
it and see.  A 256 mp3 is going to sound every bit as good as a 256 aac
or ogg.


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Re: [slim] Native AAC Support

2009-03-26 Thread Pat Farrell
Nonreality wrote:
  A 256 mp3 is going to sound every bit as good as a 256 aac or ogg.

A flac file, lossless and all that, is only about 700kbs. So any 256kbs
is not all that compressed.

Its the ten to one compression that sounds terrible.

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