Re: [slim] Squeezebox Part Number differences
The one starting with 8 is the part number for the Squeezebox itself, the one starting with the 9 is the part number for the whole kit, box and all. -- dean dean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66519 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
dsdreamer;447284 Wrote: > Improving the network seems necessary in your case, and I'm sure you'll > see improvements from so doing. > > The jury remains out as to whether things have gotten worse due to some > regression in the software or firmware that makes up the Squeezebox > system. I suspect only a controlled experiment, with controlled amounts > of network congestion/radio interference will be able to answer that > one. The closest thing to a *user report* that could shed some light on > it is if someone reverts to 7.2.1 and gets perfect playback, goes to > 7.3.3 and it's broken again, and then reverts to 7.2.1 and it stays > fixed. And as you rightly point out, it's not the rebuffering message > that is the problem, it's interruptions to playback we care about. > > I suggest that anyone who has experiences that suggest the latest 7.3.3 > or 7.3.4 is more fragile than a previous version post to the bug report > https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13092. I don't think it is > particularly worth posting info to the bug that improving the network > improved the streaming experience, because that is what we'd all expect > whether or not there is a particular bug to be found. Probably, that > point has been emphasized enough by now :-) > > Good luck with your network improvements; it's always a good investment > to make your network more robust, particularly in your case, since you > were already seeing issues with 7.2.1. Other thoughts: 1. It is a known fact that upgrades don't always perform well in Squeeze system have anyone experiencing mystery problems tried a clean install removing everything SC or at least deleting the cache files ? 2. Have anyone tried with an alternative OS install on the same hardware ? Here is what i'm experienced years ago, my upgrade from 6.3 to 6.5 was not good it stopped randomly so i tried 7.0 no joy could stop at random occasions 1-2 times a week. Did the network test 1500kbps ? Installed ubuntu on another partition on the machine, network test 3000kbps ! wtf ? this indicated to me that it was no router or network card problem. My XP partition was a pre installed one delivered with my PC i have no "real" OS cd/dvd to do installs with, only a restore partition with pre configured stuff. For example it came pre infected with Norton and i had never versions of Norton installed afterwards, i removed that and used ezet for while, but i distrused Nortons removal tool etc. There is something slightly fishy with my old XP install, as it was an oem installed pc it does not come with the tools do something creative about it. It runs 6.3 just fine but no other versions. I have a suspicion that MySQL was introduced after 6.3 or do I remember it wrong . To rule out the OS do a multiboot install, the alternative OS don't need to be a linux if thats uncomfortable to you, i think it's enough to try a fresh install of something. Start without firewalls or AV applications introduce you AV/FW of choice later and see whats happening. -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Improving the network seems necessary in your case, and I'm sure you'll see improvements from so doing. The jury remains out as to whether things have gotten worse due to some regression in the software or firmware that makes up the Squeezebox system. I suspect only a controlled experiment, with controlled amounts of network congestion/radio interference will be able to answer that one. The closest thing to a *user report* that could shed some light on it is if someone reverts to 7.2.1 and gets perfect playback, goes to 7.3.3 and it's broken again, and then reverts to 7.2.1 and it stays fixed. And as you rightly point out, it's not the rebuffering message that is the problem, it's interruptions to playback we care about. I suggest that anyone who has experiences that suggest the latest 7.3.3 or 7.3.4 is more fragile than a previous version post to the bug report https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13092. I don't think it is particularly worth posting info to the bug that improving the network improved the streaming experience, because that is what we'd all expect whether or not there is a particular bug to be found. Probably, that point has been emphasized enough by now :-) Good luck with your network improvements; it's always a good investment to make your network more robust, particularly in your case, since you were already seeing issues with 7.2.1. -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
I've been home a lot recently (kidney stones are so much fun!) and had an opportunity to spend a lot of time listening to my squeezeboxes. I have an SBR in my kitchen and in my living room (which shares a wall with the kitchen). This is what I've been using mostly all week to stream my FLAC library. Here are some things I've noticed: 1) The microwave oven greatly affects my SBR in the living room. I was using Moose when my wife turned the nuke on and I noted that the signal level went from ~60% to ~20%. Needless to say there was constant rebuffering. 2) The kitchen SBR is known to be affected the nuke. We got into the habit of pausing it when using nuking food. Regardless, sometimes afterwards the SBR would continue to rebuffer randomly for up to an hour afterwards. 3) Today it got rediculous with rebuffering in my kitchen. Out of desperation, I rebooted my wireless router - problem solved! Interesting point though is that none of my SB3s or Booms were affected at this time - they continued to stream OK. ??? 4) When using my SBR in the living room, Moose will randomly show the signal drop down to 25% for up to 30 seconds. Most of the time, there is no rebuffering! Sometimes there is though, preceded by the front light showing "dim white" even though music is playing. Perhaps there is something outside of the house causing interference? 5) My kids use their Booms EVERY night going to sleep. Occasionally I'll use the microwave when while they are falling asleep. NEVER have the Booms rebuffered or stopped streaming. One of them even has a marginal signal of 40-45%, but never has a hiccup. Their bedrooms are upstairs, the kitchen on the floor below under their rooms, and the WAP is in the basement. Basically, the nuke is smack in the middle of the router and the upstairs Booms! Yet they are unaffected. 6) I use my SB3 EVERY night to go to sleep and it NEVER rebuffers. Conclusions 1) It is certainly not 100% conclusive, but I have a strong sense that the SBRs are more susceptible to WiFi interference than the Boom or SB3. If I have an opportunity to do a lot of listening again, I may swap out my SBR in my living room with an SB3 and see how it behaves. 2) Resetting the router is sometimes necessary, even if other SBs are not affected. *** This may help others that are having problems that seem endless. 3) There may be a difference in the streaming in 7.3.3 from 7.2.1, but the environment definitely is a factor. I had problems with 7.2.1, but they seem to be more prevelant with 7.3.3. With 7.2.1, the stream would just stop, or the track would restart from the beginning. Now it will rebuffer and pick up from where it left off. Different behavior...yes...but this is actually more robust behavor! My plan of action: 1) I ordered a pair of homeplugs for the kitchen SBR - CAT-5 to the kitchen just isn't an option. I'm tired of having to screw around with the SBR when it gets scrambed by running the microwave. I can understand it rebuffering, but often it gets into a state where, even after the oven has been turned off, it randomly stops streaming. Usually this is preceded by the light on the front going to "dim white" even though it is still playing. Resetting the router occasionally helps, but when this happens, where aren't the other SBs affected? 2) I will run cat-5 to my SBR in the living room. It is relatively easy for me to do and I want to run a wire there for another reason anyway. It's just as easy to run 2 runs as 1. I will report back once I have these changes in place if I notice a difference in behavior. I certainly expect that I will. As an aside, I finally talked my brother into getting a squeezebox. He was seduced by the SBC and went with a Duet. I hope I'm not going to regret it and find myself on the defensive and trying to get him to spend more money running CAT-5 or purchasing (expensive!) homeplugs. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 3 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 27,698 songs, 2,304 albums, 439 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New "Logitech MM STREAM Squeezebox Touch" spotted !!
I've been home a lot recently (kidney stones are so much fun!) and had an opportunity to spend a lot of time listening to my squeezeboxes. I have an SBR in my kitchen and in my living room (which shares a wall with the kitchen). This is what I've been using mostly all week to stream my FLAC library. Here are some things I've noticed: 1) The microwave oven greatly affects my SBR in the living room. I was using Moose when my wife turned the nuke on and I noted that the signal level went from ~60% to ~20%. Needless to say there was constant rebuffering. 2) The kitchen SBR is known to be affected the nuke. We got into the habit of pausing it when using nuking food. Regardless, sometimes afterwards the SBR would continue to rebuffer randomly for up to an hour afterwards. 3) Today it got rediculous with rebuffering in my kitchen. Out of desperation, I rebooted my wireless router - problem solved! Interesting point though is that none of my SB3s or Booms were affected at this time - they continued to stream OK. ??? 4) When using my SBR in the living room, Moose will randomly show the signal drop down to 25% for up to 30 seconds. Most of the time, there is no rebuffering! Sometimes there is though, preceded by the front light showing "dim white" even though music is playing. Perhaps there is something outside of the house causing interference? 5) My kids use their Booms EVERY night going to sleep. Occasionally I'll use the microwave when while they are falling asleep. NEVER have the Booms rebuffered or stopped streaming. One of them even has a marginal signal of 40-45%, but never has a hiccup. Their bedrooms are upstairs, the kitchen on the floor below under their rooms, and the WAP is in the basement. Basically, the nuke is smack in the middle of the router and the upstairs Booms! Yet they are unaffected. 6) I use my SB3 EVERY night to go to sleep and it NEVER rebuffers. Conclusions 1) It is certainly not 100% conclusive, but I have a strong sense that the SBRs are more susceptible to WiFi interference than the Boom or SB3. If I have an opportunity to do a lot of listening again, I may swap out my SBR in my living room with an SB3 and see how it behaves. 2) Resetting the router is sometimes necessary, even if other SBs are not affected. *** This may help others that are having problems that seem endless. 3) There may be a difference in the streaming in 7.3.3 from 7.2.1, but the environment definitely is a factor. I had problems with 7.2.1, but they seem to be more prevelant with 7.3.3. With 7.2.1, the stream would just stop, or the track would restart from the beginning. Now it will rebuffer and pick up from where it left off. Different behavior...yes...but this is actually more robust behavor! My plan of action: 1) I ordered a pair of homeplugs for the kitchen SBR - CAT-5 to the kitchen just isn't an option. I'm tired of having to screw around with the SBR when it gets scrambed by running the microwave. I can understand it rebuffering, but often it gets into a state where, even after the oven has been turned off, it randomly stops streaming. Usually this is preceded by the light on the front going to "dim white" even though it is still playing. Resetting the router occasionally helps, but when this happens, where aren't the other SBs affected? 2) I will run cat-5 to my SBR in the living room. It is relatively easy for me to do and I want to run a wire there for another reason anyway. It's just as easy to run 2 runs as 1. I will report back once I have these changes in place if I notice a difference in behavior. I certainly expect that I will. As an aside, I finally talked my brother into getting a squeezebox. He was seduced by the SBC and went with a Duet. I hope I'm not going to regret it and find myself on the defensive and trying to get him to spend more money running CAT-5 or purchasing (expensive!) homeplugs. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 3 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 27,698 songs, 2,304 albums, 439 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Part Number differences
The unit (I believe) is a Squeezebox3 purchased new in December 2007. It's in the Logitech packaging, just says "Squeezebox Wireless Digital Music Player" on the box (no model #) and has the picture with "Pink Martini - Veronique" displayed on the unit. It sounds like two different naming/numbering conventions were used for the same product. -- steve48201 steve48201's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66519 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Part Number differences
I wonder if 830-12 is the part number for the Squeezebox3 and 930-09 the part number for the Squeezebox Classic? If so, no practical difference - the SB3 was rebranded as the Classic post Logitech acquisition but the design and hardware are identical. -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? "-Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...-" (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Oh yeah, I'm giving 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/Siduhe) a try - and surprising myself how many interesting people are out there... Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66519 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] INGUZ plugin? NEED HELP
Good info. I'll downgrade and give it a try. Thanks! -- milosz milosz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Artwork for files with no artwork
Yes - the artwork for most of my files is usually a sinch to find. I start with a rip from dbpoweramp (which captures most of my albums artwork), then use Tag&Rename to try the amazon sources. Re: Upgrades. Yes - I take that point, but it is a small extra step I can live with to not look at the dingy grey pair of crotchets. I had a feeling - going way back in slimserver versions (5 years?) - there used to exist an option to choose your artwork file, if none was found by the software. Anyone else remember that? Did I dream it? It would be a nice idea I think. -- sebage http://www.last.fm/user/sebage/ Main system; SB3 - Bel Canto S300 - B&W 703 In the study; SBG - Beresford TC-7510 - T-Amp - B&W DM600 & Sony Sub For the hard to reach places; SBB sebage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66250 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Screen (left) Dead. Help.
nothing comes up, just black. i did try both resets although i am not certain the second worked because i believe that shows up in the left screen. i fear it's broke too! emailed support but i think they are out until tomorrow. -- richardw richardw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Part Number differences
930-09 seems to be the US P/N for the "Classic". UK and NL use 930-12, I noticed. -- BastiaanR It's not a problem, it's a challenge. BastiaanR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66519 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Part Number differences
It gives no name on the box or device(s)? SB3? SB Classic? Boom? Duet? Controller? Receiver? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66519 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
Yes - 0.98 is being beta-tested by a couple of Omnia users. It will support your res. I'll announce the release here in the forum - pretty soon. -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
I have been using this on my Omnia for the last couple of versions. It works great and many thanks You mentioned a new version (0.98)would be out soon supporting the Omnia's resolution and on you web site you note the improvements. Any update on the release date? Again thanks for the great work. Given the increase in smartphone adoption this is very timely and adds value to the Slimserver product line and commuity. -- Pellicle Thecus n5200 2Tb Raid 5 running SC 7.3.2 2 SB3, 1 TP, 1 SoftSqueeze, Nokia n770 Pellicle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9789 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Screen (left) Dead. Help.
Hi, what happens if you power cycle the transporter? Do you see anything on the left display? If there's neither a logo coming by nor a few other start messages (connection, getting ip, whatever) i fear it may be broken indeed. Have you done both reset-commands? (factory reset, xilix): http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_Reset_commands kind regards, Markus -- schiegl schiegl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] INGUZ plugin? NEED HELP
Wouldn't know about 7.3.4 but it definitely works with 7.3.2 -- Matt B Matt SB3 - Moth passive pre-amp & monoblocs - Jordan JX92S VTL SB2 - Aego M Matt B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Screen (left) Dead. Help.
no love? -- richardw richardw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where can I download OLD versions of Squeezecenter?
Thanks for the info -- milosz milosz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox Part Number differences
I have a Logitech Squeezebox with two different part numbers on the box. The UPC printed on the box is 930-09 and the sticker above it says P/N 830-12. The sticker on the botoom of the unit is 830-12. Is there any difference between 830-12 and 930-09? Thanks in advance! -- steve48201 steve48201's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66519 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where can I download OLD versions of Squeezecenter?
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/ Steve. -- SteveEast SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Where can I download OLD versions of Squeezecenter?
I can't get the Inguz DSP plugin to work with Squeezecetner 7.3.4 - is there someplace I can download Squeezecenter 7.2 or 7.1? I'd like to try those to see if that solve the issue, not sure it would be an acceptable solution to me but at least I'd know where the issue was. Thanks -- milosz milosz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] INGUZ plugin? NEED HELP
No one seems to be responding to my post re: Inguz under 3rd party plugins... Does Inguz plugin work with 7.3.4? I can't get it to start on my server Is Inguz still consisidered a "current" plugin?I can't get any response to my posts under 3RD PARTY PLUGINS in the Squeezecenter Forum here, and I can't contact hpyle (at) inguzaudio.com. Are there any other DSP plugins for Squeezcenter? -- milosz milosz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66514 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver
The developer of the iPeng app is hoping to add player functionality at some point. It makes much more sense to build it into iPeng than to have a separate receiver/player app. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver
There is an iphone/touch app called audioin (and a server program) which can stream all audio played on a pc/mac to the iphone. -- kernel kernel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14943 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Artwork for files with no artwork
I had the same problem but use a third party progrm to sort this out. jRiver's Media Center. It's a bit like the iTunes player though with far better search facility and other additional features, and is great way to tag songs. One feature it has is that you can simply right click a song, group of songs or album etc and select the cover image from the clipboard. To get the image on the clip board, I usually google the album or artist. It's very quick and you can even sort your music by Album covers so it lists all the ones without cover art at the beginning. It's not free though, but is worth the money in my opinion. SqueezeCenter picks up all the tag and cover art changes Media Center makes. http://www.jrmediacenter.com/ -- Justme Justme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66250 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] last.fm 403 forbidden ?!
well i got my squeezebox yesterday and wasnt able to play my stations once... -- BlackPearl BlackPearl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66512 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DAC upgrade suggestions
It has been my experience that it is important to focus on what is "wrong" with the sound you have and go from there. If the audio is "uninvolved" it could be do to thinness or lack of tonal depth - sometimes referred to as timber. What I noticed when I went to a t-amp is that I got tonal depth - the notes seemed to be more "fleshed out" rather than an emphasis on the leading edge. Some highly upsampled and oversampled dacs that are not done right seem thin in sound. Thats why some prefer the NOS (non oversampled) type of DAC. Thinness is probably also an issue of an inadequate power supply on the DAC. Tubes add timber and depth (color) - many like that! - The Modwright transporter adds both tubes and a beefy power supply, along with other tweeks. Big bucks though! - almost $4K before you are done! I have the unmodded Transporter - I really like it, but I have it mated to a t-amp and I have euphonic caps in my maggies to add some of that tube like sound. I am quite sure the Modwright would sound better! - Just cant spring for the upgrade right now. If I were looking for a DAC upgrade and had the cash I would go for the Modwright and not look back. It is WAY more flexable that any other DAC out there and I highly doubt you could beat the sound for less than $5K. check it out! -- earwaxer Waxer Transporter Winsome labs mouse Maggie MMG's (modified) JPS Labs power cords Audioquest Granite speaker wire Silver Bullet interconnect HSU research sub earwaxer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32040 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66485 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DAC upgrade suggestions
amcluesent;447141 Wrote: > >Any suggestions< > > Transporter? The SB3 will be a limit no matter what you fit it with. He would need to find one the used market to meet his price target. Also, I would think the only limitation of using an external DAC to improve the SB3 comes down to timing jitter (lower quality clock, and no way to get the said clock directly to the DAC). The SB3 is rated to have intrinsic jitter of less than 50ps r.m.s., which is very good. So, if your external DAC measures well for jitter sidebands per the Miller Jitter Analyzer, and you have a competent piece of 75 Ohm coax, I don't see that you'd have any real weakness to speak of. Or am I oversimplifying things? -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66485 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] last.fm 403 forbidden ?!
I have also seen this happen today, last.fm server problem? -- autopilot Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedroom:* squeezebox boom *bathroom/garden:* squeezebox boom *car:* ipod classic 80gb autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66512 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] last.fm 403 forbidden ?!
scrobbling works but i cant love any tracks and when i try to listen to my radio stations i get a 403 forbidden error i am a paying last.fm subscriber and live in germany i got a Squeezebox boom conncected to an imac and tried everything Squeezecenter and Squeezenetwork but last.fm wont work cheers -- BlackPearl BlackPearl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66512 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] iPod / iPhone as a receiver
Hi - Is there any plan to have application to transform an iPod / iPhone transformed into a receiver ? I've read that porting Squeezeplay would be rather difficult, but what I had more in mind what a simple solution like SqueezeSlave. My use case is that I'd love to use some of my iPod portable (battery powered) docking stations to listen to music _and_ to sync it with my other players. A portable boom would be perfect, but obviously this does not exist (I I can't find any solution, I'll probably work something around with an external battery, but this is going to look ugly). Initially, I would not even be willing to have a fancy app on the iPod, just the receiver capability and I coudl use my regular controller -- philippe_44 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Transporter Screen (left) Dead. Help.
Hello all! I just got a transporter and it was fine yesterday. Today, the left screen is black and will not respond. All the buttons on the left side seem dead as well. I tried rebooting and reseting and no change. I fear this unit is bad but hoping someone has a solution. Help. -- richardw richardw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66509 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Artwork for files with no artwork
Mnyb;447131 Wrote: > This will not survive an upgrade, you can pretty much redesign the > web-UI to your liking. But you have to keep putting back those images > yourself after each upgrade. > > For a while a was sick of that *euch* green theme in the web-UI and > redesigned some pics to make it a grayscale, but I grow tired of > updtating this after every upgrade. > > You can also hack the controller itself for example change the boot > sound and splash screen, but again this will disappear each upgrade. > but for the fun of it It wouldn't take a lot to wrap that all up in a zipor rar file that you extract after the update, overwriting the files already in those directories. Or a batch/script file to update everything. -- funkstar my collection: *1*x boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black) *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66250 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DAC upgrade suggestions
>Any suggestions< Transporter? The SB3 will be a limit no matter what you fit it with. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66485 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DAC upgrade suggestions
Why not try upgrading the power supply first? Russ Andrews do one and a Google search should show up alternatives and forum discussions. -- dBerriff SB3, Boom, Musical Fidelity kW250S, Castle Stirling 3's dBerriff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66485 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SC on a separate computer from my NAS (music library), bad idea for speed?
I gave up with my ReadyNAS too. It is now used as backup storage and left switched off most of the time. I agree that it plays back fine but part of the attraction of the SC system is rapid lookup and selection of tracks. I found it frustratingly sluggish, especially with iPeng on my iPod touch. I am currently using a Dell server which was cheap (quite a bargain actually, direct from Dell) but is big, heavy, fairly noisy and no doubt expensive to run except in winter when it helps with the heating. Ubuntu Server was free but needed a bit of reading before I could set it up successfully. VortexBox looks like an interesting alternative but I don't want to change a set up that is working well. I have given up with Microsoft and do not want another server running on our iMac. If I was starting again I would look at something like a Tranquil PC (UK) although I am sure there are many alternatives. This should be quiet enough to sit in the listening room connected by cable to the SB and have the power to run the interface efficiently. http://www.tranquilpc.co.uk/ [I have no connection with Tranquil - I would just like to try one] -- dBerriff SB3, Boom, Musical Fidelity kW250S, Castle Stirling 3's dBerriff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12247 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66496 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Artwork for files with no artwork
sebage;447072 Wrote: > Thanks - that works perfectly for my needs; I knew there must have been > a way. Appreciate your posting! This will not survive an upgrade, you can pretty much redesign the web-UI to your liking. But you have to keep putting back those images yourself after each upgrade. For a while a was sick of that *euch* green theme in the web-UI and redesigned some pics to make it a grayscale, but I grow tired of updtating this after every upgrade. You can also hack the controller itself for example change the boot sound and splash screen, but again this will disappear each upgrade. but for the fun of it -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66250 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SC on a separate computer from my NAS (music library), bad idea for speed?
I've had my music on a NAS with slimserver on the PC. Library building takes hours (hundreds of GB) but playback is fine. -- badbob badbob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66496 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SC on a separate computer from my NAS (music library), bad idea for speed?
I am using an old Laptop (1,833 GHz Dualcore @ 900MHz) running on Windows XP as a server with my music stored on a Synology DS107+ connected via Gb-LAN. Everything is working absolutely reliable and fast. -- Aurumer Aurumer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31601 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66496 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SC on a separate computer from my NAS (music library), bad idea for speed?
LukeS;447081 Wrote: > I agree with you guys, it is not fail safe and the are still plenty of > ways to loose the data. Though it is much better then what I was > previously storing my music collection on, a USB hard drive and two > redundant hard drives are better then one. > > I guess it would be best to build a atom server box with a big > harddrive and store my music collection locally. Then I could do daily > or weekly backups to the readyNAS and if one fails or I do something > stupid and kill all the data on one device I still have the other. Actually my main SC installation runs on a ViaC7 mini-server (today you really should use Atom instead) which is fanless because it has no internal HD (makes thermal management simpler). It uses an external, eSata connected HD. This is very silent and fast enough, I think with an atom box it would be really fast. OS is Ubuntu. I do backups by mirroring data to various other systems and doing additional dedicated backups of essential data. I've got others that are more silent but this one is pretty close to what you want. Actually I did run something even closer: before I added the external HD I used a Synology NAS for data storage but that one was more noisy and slower. The server runs from a Flash disc but you don't really need that with an external HD. If you do that note that using USB sticks is a bad idea, they die after a while, you need more expensive IDE flash dongles or real flash disks. I've tried that, too :-) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66496 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] PDA-controller SlimControl 0.95
The server is up again. Good weekend to all Sebastian -- Locuth Use your PDA/Phone as SqueezeBox remote -- http://sc.sciatec.de Locuth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SC on a separate computer from my NAS (music library), bad idea for speed?
I've been running a ReadyNAS NV for a couple of years now and I ditched Slimslerver on the NAS a long time ago (I needed to get AlienBBC working). I built a server using old parts (AthlonXP 2500+) and it's great. The experience on my SB3s is so much better. The server runs Ubuntu Server and accesses all music from the NAS over a 100 Mbit connection. Never had a problem, though the most it's ever had to deal with is four simultaneous FLAC streams. Regarding the backup thing, RAID is not a backup solution, but it does offer protection against a single drive failure (or two with RAID-6) and let's face it your hard drive WILL fail eventually. A backup is different, but your collection/files are only as good as your last, well, backup! It's usually a manual process that most users forget to or never do. Use the USB port of the ReadyNAS to do scheduled backups to a USB drive and you'll have a very good system. Locate the USB drive off-site betweeen backup jobs and it's even better. -- rickwookie rickwookie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66496 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Czech Radio upstages BBC
amcluesent;446704 Wrote: > >what proportion music recorded at 48Khz. < > > I'd say none. I can't recall any broadcasts of original recordings that > could be done by their own team at 48Khz. It has the feel of a playlist > coming off computer with all the announcers recorded way in advance. Are you saying that recording at 48kHz is not practical (I don't know if it is or isn't)? They do say that their programme includes live concerts/opera on Wednesday and Sunday - and that D-Dur was chosen for this Flac experiment because of the way that they store the broadcasts for it. > "Most programs broadcast by Czech Radio stations are stored in an > internal DALET production system, converted into the lossy MPEG2 format. > As digital technologies grow, however, the Czech Radio starts to process > and store some of its programs in lossless formats, mostly wav. Majority > of programs broadcast by the new Czech Radio's D-dur station are stored > in that format, which is why we have chosen the D-dur station for our > lossless broadcasting. Listeners will be able to receive unaltered audio > signal identical with the original. > > Digital audio signal produced by the D-dur station is encoded using the > ADAT format. Therefore the encoding server needs to be fitted with an > ADAT compatible sound card and software capable of capturing and > decoding the audio. The ADAT data stream may contain multiple channels > a technology also used by the Czech Radio. The D-dur Station signal is > ADAT-encoded at 48 kHz and 16 bits in two channels." -- Paul Webster Paul Webster http://www.lastfm.com/user/BondJamesBond Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=66393 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify
Is there rumours of when Spotify to be used on squeeze products will become official? -- nicoleif nicoleif's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss