Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread thinker

Okay, I'm considering giving iPeng a try.  I installed iPeng Party, but
it says it can't find my player.  I'm running the latest squeezeserver
on the same Wifi network that my iPhone is connected to.  I'm somewhat
hesitant to pay $6 for the full iPeng if iPeng Party isn't even working.
Any idea what I'm missing here?



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[slim] Logitech's premium audio brand

2012-12-09 Thread Labarum

Ultimate Ears

Really?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/9730295/Ultimate-Ears-Logitechs-premium-audio-brand-opens-London-shop.html



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread pippin

Is your Squeezebox also connected to the server or maybe to
MySqueezebox.com?
You can't enter your account for MySqueezebox.com in iPeng Party since
that would be against the philosophy of iPeng Party (giving away the
credentials would give you permanent, full access) so you can only
remotely configure this through the full iPeng.
With the normal iPeng you can just tap MySqueezebox.com and register
it when you use it the first time to make it work (unlike Logitech,
iPeng doesn't force you to register).

iPeng Party also doesn't show disconnected players (disconnected from a
server)

Please check for that and maybe switch your Squeezebox to your server by
selecting My Mysic on the Squeezebox.
Server discovery is usually very reliable in both iPeng and iPeng Party.



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Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !

2012-12-09 Thread pippin

The embedded browser in iPeng is slow for the very reason that it's
searching for playable link (plus a horrible bug in iOS 6 for some links
but you are not affected by that on your iPad 1). Apart from that link
search it's really the same Safari you use everywhere on the iPad.

Unless bluegaspode finds a way to dramatically speed up that search
(something often dependeent on the remote network speed, at least in
iPeng), I doubt it would be faster there.
But it would of course allow you to use SqueezePad directly for this, if
you prefer it.



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread toby10

Which player are you using?  LMS (via WhiteBear) will downsample to
whatever the player is capable of.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread garym

pippin wrote: 
 Is your Squeezebox also connected to the server or maybe to
 MySqueezebox.com?
 You can't enter your account for MySqueezebox.com in iPeng Party since
 that would be against the philosophy of iPeng Party (giving away the
 credentials would give you permanent, full access) so you can only
 remotely configure this through the full iPeng.
 With the normal iPeng you can just tap MySqueezebox.com and register
 it when you use it the first time to make it work (unlike Logitech,
 iPeng doesn't force you to register).
 
 iPeng Party also doesn't show disconnected players (disconnected from a
 server)
 
 Please check for that and maybe switch your Squeezebox to your server by
 selecting My Mysic on the Squeezebox.
 Server discovery is usually very reliable in both iPeng and iPeng Party
 if you are on the same network.

As a long-time happy user, I can assure you that ipeng or ipengHD work
flawlessly. If you own SB players, ipeng will be the best $6 you ever
spent. 

(also, be sure that the phone is connected to WIFIoccasionally I
forget, and my phone is on 3G and I'm wondering why it is not seeing my
SB players and LMS.duh! it has to be on WIFI in my network.)



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread ScottMDJ

toby10 wrote: 
 Which player are you using?  LMS (via WhiteBear) will downsample to
 whatever the player is capable of.

I'm using LMS Squeezebox.  I can get larger files (up to 24/192 and SACD
ISOs) to play if I select Convert unsupported formats but the
conversion goes right past 24/96 (LSM's limit) to CD quality.  With the
setting of Never convert I can play most files of 24/96, but anything
higher and I get some serious stutters.  That happens with  some
24/96files too, and in this setting, SACD ISOs aren't recognized at all.
Setting delays, play from memory, etc. hasn't improved the situation. 


If I'm doing something wrong I'd greatly appreciate any advice.  I
should mention that I never deleted the LSM DLNA plug-in since I can't
find it.  Again, if my situation is a result of doing something wrong,
I'd love to hear about it.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread thinker

My iPhone is Wi-Fi only, so it's definitely on the right network.  I can
access the Squeeze center via Safari, so reachability isn't an issue. 
It also shows all of my players. Can I specify the IP of the Squeeze
center?



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread garym

thinker wrote: 
 My iPhone is Wi-Fi only, so it's definitely on the right network.  I can
 access the Squeeze center via Safari, so reachability isn't an issue. 
 It also shows all of my players. Can I specify the IP of the Squeeze
 center?

you can in regular iPeng. Not sure about ipeng party.  But should pick
up automatically, so not sure why you're iphone is not seeing it.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread garym

garym wrote: 
 you can in regular iPeng. Not sure about ipeng party.  But should pick
 up automatically, so not sure why you're iphone is not seeing it.

also, what iOS is your iphone running? Given that it is wifi only I
guess it is jailbroken or old iphone with old iOS???



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread thinker

garym wrote: 
 also, what iOS is your iphone running? Given that it is wifi only I
 guess it is jailbroken or old iphone with old iOS???

It's an iPhone 3G running 4.2.1.  It's not currently jailbroken, but if
I'm going to run iPeng fulltime, it will be to disable the lock screen.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread garym

thinker wrote: 
 It's an iPhone 3G running 4.2.1.  It's not currently jailbroken, but if
 I'm going to run iPeng fulltime, it will be to disable the lock screen.

hmmm, pippin needs to chime in on this. I know that the current version
of ipeng doesn't work on some older models of iphone. I'm recalling 3G
or later, but Pippin can confirm.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread pippin

First: you say SqueezeCenter. Which version do you use? IPeng does NOT
work with Slimserver 6.x... SqueezeCenter should mean 7.x, though.

You can indeed configure your IP address manually in iPeng (not in iPeng
Party) but you really shouldn't have to unless you've got an exotic
network configuration that requires routing.
Could I ask for the IP address of your iPhone and SqueezeCenter? You can
mail me under coolio att penguinlovesmusic dott com if you prefer that.

What do you see in iPeng Party if you tap the title bar (where it shows
no player found)?



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread pippin

Oh, that's true. iPhone 3G indeed is no longer supported. I'm sorry, not
really our choice, Apple has removed all support for 1st and 2nd
generation devices from their developer tools, we can't build versions
for these devices anymore.

You need at least an iPhone 3GS

The existing iPeng Party should still word, though.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread thinker

pippin wrote: 
 First: you say SqueezeCenter. Which version do you use? IPeng does NOT
 work with Slimserver 6.x... SqueezeCenter should mean 7.x, though.
 
 You can indeed configure your IP address manually in iPeng (not in iPeng
 Party) but you really shouldn't have to unless you've got an exotic
 network configuration that requires routing.
 Could I ask for the IP address of your iPhone and SqueezeCenter? You can
 mail me under coolio att penguinlovesmusic dott com if you prefer that.
 
 What do you see in iPeng Party if you tap the title bar (where it shows
 no player found)?

When I tap the title bar, it says no players found.  I'm running 7.x:

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersion Description
+++-===-===-==
ii  logitechmediaserver 7.7.2   Streaming Audio Server

My server is 172.30.30.1 and my iPhone is 172.30.30.142.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread pippin

Could it be that 172.30.30.1 is also the address of your router?



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread pippin

thinker wrote: 
 Oh.  Hm.  I installed whatever the Appstore gave me.  Is that wrong?

No, that's OK. Just iPeng Party is an old build, it doesn't support
iPhone 5, yet.
I'm going to change that, soon, and then iPeng Party should no longer be
available for old devices, either (so make a backup copy in case you
still want to use it once we get it to run).
The App Store should not offer the regular iPeng (on your device) unless
you are on iOS 5, which is not available on iPhone 3G



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread toby10

Still don't know what SqueezeBox player model you are using.  LMS is
limited to 24/96, the Touch hardware player can pass 24/192 to an
external DAC under certain conditions.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread thinker

pippin wrote: 
 Could it be that 172.30.30.1 is also the address of your router?

My router is a Linux box, which is also my Squeezeserver.



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread ScottMDJ

Is this what you mean?

Player Model: Squeezebox Touch
Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663

I'd be very grateful for any help getting higher resolution files to
play on JRiver through Whitebear to the SB Touch.



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread bhaagensen

Pippin - on my 3GS the albumcovers (in the new view- mode) appears quite
pixelated, especially when zoomed into. are you aware of this?



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread garym

ScottMDJ wrote: 
 Is this what you mean?
 
 Player Model: Squeezebox Touch
 Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663
 
 I'd be very grateful for any help getting higher resolution files to
 play on JRiver through Whitebear to the SB Touch.

Can't speak to the JRiver or Whitebear, but the touch can play 24/96
files natively, but 24/192 files ONLY if Triodes applet EDO is
installed on the Touch (and the TOUCH is playing to an external DAC that
will work with 24/192)



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squidget - A SqueezeBox Widget for Android

2012-12-09 Thread Schindler

I was able to use it on a Nexus 7. But only available under all your
apps at google play, if you bought it when it was available.



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread toby10

ScottMDJ wrote: 
 Is this what you mean?
 
 Player Model: Squeezebox Touch
 Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663
 
 I'd be very grateful for any help getting higher resolution files to
 play on JRiver through Whitebear to the SB Touch.

Yes, Touch is the player model, there are nine different hardware
players plus various software players.
Touch cannot play 24/192, it can only play up to 24/96.  It can pass
24/192 under certain conditions and only if outputing (digital or USB)
to a DAC capable of 24/192.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2012-12-09 Thread wus

O.k., I purchased SqueezePlayer and Orange Squeeze now to try on my
phone (a GarminAsus A10). This basically works, I succeeded to
synchronize the Player on the phone with SoftSqueeze on my laptop OR
with my Duet receiver, but whenever I tried to add a 3rd device to the
same sync group one always got out of sync. 

Is this a known problem? Can it be avoided somehow?



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread pippin

bhaagensen wrote: 
 Pippin - on my 3GS the albumcovers (in the new view- mode) appears quite
 pixelated, especially when zoomed into. are you aware of this?

Ah. Actually no... Well, say I forgot about non-retina devices, sorry,
will fix that in the next update.
I originally developed this for iPeng UE and forgot to also flag the
sizing change in iPeng for Phone (iPeng UE, technically, really is an
iPeng for iPad running on an iPhone whereas iPeng for iPhone still uses
somewhat different code). Most of the testing was on UE and I just
enabled it in iPeng for iPhone, too, when it was ready.

Sizing in this case is a bit complicated :)

The view is ported from iPeng for iPad where I simply use covers in
twice the size than on iPhone. That would be 150x150 on non-retina
displays and 300x300 on retina displays.
The tiles in iPeng for iPhone are smaller, though (I'm talking of the
default size here, of course you can scale them as you please), only
120x120. Now my choices would have been to use either _that_ (and they
would scale badly for the smaller, 75x75 list-view images), make the
list-view images smaller (would spoil the 3-line layout and also be a
step backwards if that's what you use) or always use the larger images
(would mean I load 300x300's on iPhone 4, 4S and 5).
What I decided was an intermediate step: always use 150x150 on iPhone.
That means they would scale down fine for the lists and somewhat
acceptable for both the 120x120 and the 240x240 tiles. It would not be
perfect but going straight to 300x300 on an iPhone would really consume
a _lot_ of memory.

I also want to stick with my 150x150 and 300x300 steps for
performance reasons. All artwork gets cached not only by iPeng but also
by the server and MySqueezebox.com, so using few, common form factors
will help performance if you've got more than one device (or always, in
the case of MySB).



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Re: [slim] iPeng, your iPhone Squeezebox Remote, gets even better with version 2.0!

2012-12-09 Thread pippin

thinker wrote: 
 My router is a Linux box, which is also my Squeezeserver.

Hm, I wonder whether this has an effect.
Did server-autodiscovery work for your Squeezeboxes or did you have to
configure them manually?

thinker wrote: 
 Er, is backup an option in the app?  I'm an Android user and acquired
 this iPhone specifically for iPeng, so I'm not completely sure how all
 of this works.

Oh, in the App there is none. But when you sync the iPhone with iTunes,
it's shown under My Apps in iTunes and you can just copy it from there
with dragdrop. It's just a single file.
But if this is really an iPhone 3G, I'm sorry, iPeng (the full version)
is not going to run on it (if it's a 3GS, it would be fine; the 3GS
looks the same and has also the same name but the internal changes from
3G to 3GS are bigger than the ones from the original iPhone to the 3G,
it uses a different processor generation).



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2012-12-09 Thread wus

Unfortunately I have to revise that. Even only 2 players don't always
stay in sync. And so far I found no way to get them back into sync once
they stopped playing in sync.



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread ScottMDJ

Thanks for the feedback.  I have the original DacMagic which accepts
only 24/96, so EDO doesn't work for me.  It does make me wish I had a
better Dac so I could try it out!

I have no problem playing files over 24/96 on the Touch.  My problem is
I'm trying to use JRiver as a front end, through Whitebear, to the
Touch.  Of course, LMS on its own downsamples larger files to 24/96.  My
problem going through Whitebear is those 176, 192, and 196 sample rates
have stuttering playback.  If I use the convert option, the files are
downsampled too much.  I'm sorry if I'm hijacking this thread but I'd
love to discover I'm doing something wrong.



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread toby10

I guess I'm not understanding what the problem is.  Your player and
external DAC are not capable of playing your 24/192 files natively.
And when these are files are played they are successfully down sampled
to 24/96 and play fine.  Correct?

I highly doubt you would hear any discernible difference between 192 and
96, down-sampled or not.  Seems you are over complicating a problem that
doesn't exist on hardware not capable of playing 192, all to hear likely
no difference when properly played at 96.  If I'm understanding you
issue.  ;)



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread garym

toby10 wrote: 
 I guess I'm not understanding what the problem is.  Your player and
 external DAC are not capable of playing your 24/192 files natively.
 And when these are files are played they are successfully down sampled
 to 24/96 and play fine.  Correct?
 
 I highly doubt you would hear any discernible difference between 192 and
 96, down-sampled or not.  Seems you are over complicating a problem that
 doesn't exist on hardware not capable of playing 192, all to hear likely
 no difference when properly played at 96.  If I'm understanding you
 issue.  ;)

agree about the 192 vs 96 (no human being can hear any difference there
unless the difference is caused by different underlying master
recordings, i.e., unrelated to the 44.1 vs 96 vs 192)

But unrelated to this, his problem seems to be that when there is
downconverting there seems to be a lot of buffering and stuttering if I
have this right.  This makes me think that the server doing the
downconversion may not be powerful enough when used with Jriver and
whitebear. I don't use either of these so I'm no help with that.  I
suspect the OP might be better posting in the whitebear thread where the
author of that may be of some help.



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread ScottMDJ

The squeezebox on its own successfully down converts higher sample rates
to 24/96, and I have no problems.  The JRiver-Whitebear-squeezebox
combination, on the other hand, has considerable problems with the
larger files: they stutter to the point of being unplayable.  As I said,
I can tell JRiver to convert the file but it then converts everything
all the way down to 48hz.  I can't figure out how to get it to convert
the large files only to 96, and yes, I've tried the DSP studio settings.


I'm skeptical that the highest sample rates will make a difference, but
I'd want the files to be at least playable.  BTW, I'd like to use JRiver
for the tagging and SACD ISO playback, but the combination isn't working
for me.



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Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?

2012-12-09 Thread garym

ScottMDJ wrote: 
 The squeezebox on its own successfully down converts higher sample rates
 to 24/96, and I have no problems.  The JRiver-Whitebear-squeezebox
 combination, on the other hand, has considerable problems with the
 larger files: they stutter to the point of being unplayable.  As I said,
 I can tell JRiver to convert the file but it then converts everything
 all the way down to 48hz.  I can't figure out how to get it to convert
 the large files only to 96, and yes, I've tried the DSP studio settings.
 
 
 I'm skeptical that the highest sample rates will make a difference, but
 I'd want the files to be at least playable.  BTW, I'd like to use JRiver
 for the tagging and SACD ISO playback, but the combination isn't working
 for me.

agree that playing them ought to at least be seamless.  But sorry, no
help on the jriver combo, although the problem is obviously something in
that and not the TOUCH itself.



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[slim] Need help getting my (original) Squeezebox working on Mac

2012-12-09 Thread mckinnonw

I was an early adopter of the Squeezebox, buying one that plugs directly
into my receiver back in 2003.  LOVED IT.

Then a couple of things happened.  One, Logitech bought the company and
seemed to just start messing things up.  Two, we got a Mac.

For the last year I have not been able to get my actual Squeezebox (the
one plugged into the receiver and connected to my wifi network) to
connect with my Mac (which has the server software running,
apparently).

Can someone help me troubleshoot.  I have no idea why it won't connect,
except if I had to guess it has something to do with the squeezebox
server.  E.g. it is difficult to open/run on the Mac.  It seems like I
need to install it every time, or restart the utilities file.  Its just
not intuitive.

Once we get them connected and speaking, my second question relates to
how I run Pandora over the Squeezebox server.

Thanks for any and all help!!



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Re: [slim] Need help getting my (original) Squeezebox working on Mac

2012-12-09 Thread mckinnonw

Update:

I figured out that the wireless security password was blocking my
Squeezebox from connecting to the network, and I fixed that.  My
Squeezebox (e.g. the device plodded into my receiver) is now connected
to my computer.  BUT, now when I am on mysqueezebox.com and I search for
players, it does not identify any.  Does my squeezebox.com not recognize
the old Squeezebox device?  And if so, is there any way to stream music
to it? 

Thanks



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2012-12-09 Thread Mnyb

Syncing software players is always hit and miss ,it can work for some
not for others . Using real hardware squeezeboxes this usually works
fine.



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