Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
There should be no soldering needed to make the board useful. The wifi is a mini-PCIe form factor, it just pushes into the socket. You DO have to plug in an antenna of some sort, its a standard UFL jack on the module. All the other connectors are on the board, putting it in the case is just putting it in place so the connectors go through the holes and either screwing the board in or pushing down onto some of those nylon hold downs. I really want to put the DAC on the GEN1 board. It's a new design I haven't used before and I want to have a platform to play around with the internal DSP. I want to find out how good we can make this sound. Someone else brought up an interesting aspect, if the DSP is done in the DAC, it can't be applied to the S/PDIF or USB. For just straight playback, that won't matter since the only thing I will be doing with at least at first is the interpolation filter, which is already included in any external DAC. For long term GEN2 it might be best to have the FPGA DSP based system, then you can do anything you want and it will be useful for all outputs. But that is definitely NOT going to be in GEN1. I did some more poking around the processor/memory issues, it's a bit more complicated than I thought at first. It looks like the best bet for GEN1 is a 720MHz processor and 256MB RAM. This does not have TDMI interface, it does have an LCD interface. For GEN2 a 1GHz processor and 512MB RAM, this comes with a full blown video controller and built in HDMI and VGA interface. No need for external chips, just hook up connectors. The GEN1 is a much simpler board layout task so I would like to go with it. I COULD do the faster processor from the get-go, put its more work and costs a little more (about $10 more for the board, about $15 more for the processor and $20 more for the memory). I actually did a full quote on board costs and its actually right around what I thought, the board and assembly for a GEN1 will be $64 for 25, The GEN2 is about $75. So the rest of the cost is the parts which look like around $90 to $100 for a Gen 1. So that hits the $170 for the board. It's $35 for the wifi module which you can add at any time. The place I'm working with does the parts procurement as well, so it's just send files and money and a couple weeks later get a box of fully assembled boards. The Gen1 board will have no display, so all development has to be over ssh or serial port. I'll probably put a serial port on it so you can have a hardware console during boot. So it looks like it will have an ethernet jack, 2 USB-A jacks, serial jack, S/PDIF coax, 2 RCA jacks. The big question is, should it have a headphone jack. The easy, inexpensive headphone circuits are not all that great and add more complexity to the board. I know how to make a REALLY good headphone amp, but it will add quite a bit of complexity to the board and some extra cost. So what are your thoughts: 1; no headphone jack 2; simple, cheap, not so great 3; whole hog really good, but complex and pricy. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
That sounds really great : the specs you propose (i.e. included DAC and defaut jacks) and the related price make sense to me . I personnaly don't need the TOSLINK and depending on complexity, an IR receiver could be great (as I found it grear that with SB3 you don't need to power your phone or computer to do play / pause / modify volume) As far as the headphone is concerned, a cheap jack could be useful for debugging the interface during night development but is not mandatory (btw, count me in) eLR!C's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19360 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
I'd vote simple, cheap headphone jack. Did you forget to mention the SD card slot, or would there be no external slot? Would most connectors be on just the rear edge of the board? Not important on the first go 'round, but I think it's important, rather than having a player with connectors and cables coming off of several sides. The headphone jack could be on the side, and also the SD card slot, if there is one. Is it possible to design a box that could completely power down the wifi radio when it's not in use? What bitrates would this Squeezebox ultimately be capable of? JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
BTW, John... Where are you located? Perhaps we can find someone nearby to help you with shipping and some of the other logistics of distributing the boards. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: > > I really want to put the DAC on the GEN1 board. It's a new design I > haven't used before and I want to have a platform to play around with > the internal DSP. I want to find out how good we can make this sound. > Ok, then it makes sense. I'm definitely willing to pay for it just to make it possible for you to experiment with it so we can get something really great in GEN2. JohnSwenson wrote: > > I did some more poking around the processor/memory issues, it's a bit > more complicated than I thought at first. It looks like the best bet for > GEN1 is a 720MHz processor and 256MB RAM. This does not have TDMI > interface, it does have an LCD interface. For GEN2 a 1GHz processor and > 512MB RAM, this comes with a full blown video controller and built in > HDMI and VGA interface. No need for external chips, just hook up > connectors. The GEN1 is a much simpler board layout task so I would like > to go with it. I COULD do the faster processor from the get-go, put its > more work and costs a little more (about $10 more for the board, about > $15 more for the processor and $20 more for the memory). > I would go with the slower CPU and less memory for GEN1, since GEN1 is just a temporary experimentation platform to get to GEN2 it doesn't make sense that people should have to pay for the more expensive CPU/memory both in GEN1 and GEN2. For GEN2 I definitely want the faster CPU/memory to make it more future proof. JohnSwenson wrote: > > So it looks like it will have an ethernet jack, 2 USB-A jacks, serial > jack, S/PDIF coax, 2 RCA jacks, SD card (probably a micro), power jack, > socket for Wifi module. Anything else I need in there? > For GEN2, some kind of line-in would be nice if you believe GEN2 in the future could be packaged in a case with built-in speakers, the line-in on the Squeezebox Boom can be really useful if you want to use it as a speaker for external sources like a smart phone or similar device. If you think a product with built-in speakers would require a completely different board, a line-in doesn't make sense at this stage. IR and HDMI would also be of interest for GEN2, but that has already been mentioned earlier. JohnSwenson wrote: > > The big question is, should it have a headphone jack. The easy, > inexpensive headphone circuits are not all that great and add more > complexity to the board. I know how to make a REALLY good headphone amp, > but it will add quite a bit of complexity to the board and some extra > cost. So what are your thoughts: > 1; no headphone jack > 2; simple, cheap, not so great > 3; whole hog really good, but complex and pricy. > For GEN1 it isn't needed at all. For GEN2 something with similar audio quality as the Squeezeboxes is probably a good idea. JohnSwenson wrote: > > Also should it have a TOSLINK? > In my opinion the S/PDIF is enough. However, if you can add the TOSLINK without adding a lot of complexity or cost, having both TOSLINK and S/PDIF in GEN2 could be nice for people who only have free TOSLINK connections in their DACs/Amplifiers. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JJZolx wrote: > As the design and the board progresses, would it eventually have onboard > flash memory, or is it always envisioned as loading from an SD card? I think keeping all the flash on a card (micros SD) is probably best as it makes it easy to avoid the "bricking" scenario - asking someone to remove the card and reflash it from a PC is much easier than the debricking process we have with touch or the non existant debrick on radio... For a community project there will be much less QA so there is a risk of this... Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: > A couple thoughts: why would anybody want this board? > It has audio specific stuff on it you won't find on other general > purpose computer boards, specifically an analog DAC output that is > significantly better than what is on the Touch, you would have to get at > least a $1000 USB DAC to get in this quality range. Very low jitter > clocks (much lower than the ones in the Touch, but not as good as some > of the best external DACs), a highly optimized S/PDIF coax output that > is better than almost anything else out there no matter what the price. > The beauty of this concept is that these extra "audiophile" options are > easy and inexpensive to add when you are building them in from the > ground up. It's when you take an existing general purpose system and try > and add this as outboard "add-ons" that it gets quite expensive. I > really want to do this with those extra options because that is what > differentiates this from say a CuBox. > These are indeed the reasons that this product will stand out. Audiophile performance on a DIY budget. Even if the rest of the world remains unconvinced about Squeezebox and prefers their Sonos or Airplay systems, in this community we know the value of the Squeezebox ecosystem, and whilst off-the-shelf hardware is already filling some of the player gap, I think a player whose design focus from the outset is very high SQ will go like hot cakes in this community. I'd also hope that the power supply part will conform to John's very high standards in this area. I'm no software developer, I've already got all the Squeezeboxes I need (and a spare Touch in the loft) but I still want in on one of the first batch of 'our' player. I might use it to replace the currently dormant SB2 that I built into my DIY preamp a couple of years ago. Any chance of a balanced output as well as RCA? chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: > There should be no soldering needed to make the board useful. The wifi > is a mini-PCIe form factor, it just pushes into the socket. You DO have > to plug in an antenna of some sort, its a standard UFL jack on the > module. > > All the other connectors are on the board, putting it in the case is > just putting it in place so the connectors go through the holes and > either screwing the board in or pushing down onto some of those nylon > hold downs. > > I really want to put the DAC on the GEN1 board. It's a new design I > haven't used before and I want to have a platform to play around with > the internal DSP. I want to find out how good we can make this sound. > > Someone else brought up an interesting aspect, if the DSP is done in the > DAC, it can't be applied to the S/PDIF or USB. For just straight > playback, that won't matter since the only thing I will be doing with at > least at first is the interpolation filter, which is already included in > any external DAC. For long term GEN2 it might be best to have the FPGA > DSP based system, then you can do anything you want and it will be > useful for all outputs. But that is definitely NOT going to be in GEN1. > > > I did some more poking around the processor/memory issues, it's a bit > more complicated than I thought at first. It looks like the best bet for > GEN1 is a 720MHz processor and 256MB RAM. This does not have TDMI > interface, it does have an LCD interface. For GEN2 a 1GHz processor and > 512MB RAM, this comes with a full blown video controller and built in > HDMI and VGA interface. No need for external chips, just hook up > connectors. The GEN1 is a much simpler board layout task so I would like > to go with it. I COULD do the faster processor from the get-go, put its > more work and costs a little more (about $10 more for the board, about > $15 more for the processor and $20 more for the memory). > > I actually did a full quote on board costs and its actually right around > what I thought, the board and assembly for a GEN1 will be $64 for 25, > The GEN2 is about $75. So the rest of the cost is the parts which look > like around $90 to $100 for a Gen 1. So that hits the $170 for the > board. It's $35 for the wifi module which you can add at any time. The > place I'm working with does the parts procurement as well, so it's just > send files and money and a couple weeks later get a box of fully > assembled boards. > > The Gen1 board will have no display, so all development has to be over > ssh or serial port. I'll probably put a serial port on it so you can > have a hardware console during boot. > > So it looks like it will have an ethernet jack, 2 USB-A jacks, serial > jack, S/PDIF coax, 2 RCA jacks, SD card (probably a micro), power jack, > socket for Wifi module. Anything else I need in there? > > The big question is, should it have a headphone jack. The easy, > inexpensive headphone circuits are not all that great and add more > complexity to the board. I know how to make a REALLY good headphone amp, > but it will add quite a bit of complexity to the board and some extra > cost. So what are your thoughts: > 1; no headphone jack > 2; simple, cheap, not so great > 3; whole hog really good, but complex and pricy. > > Also should it have a TOSLINK? > > John S. Sounding great to me John. Few questions: 1) Do we need Wifi could a usb dongle be used at lower cost? 2) Assume we keep all flash on the SD/microSD to avoid the bricking case (see above case) 3) Are both usb ports on an internal hub or are they separate controllers on the processor 4) can you point me at the datasheet for the processor you are planning on? Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech divesting from some product lines
Well as crazy as I think selling the Harmony division is, I wished they had done that with SB instead of killing it off and replacing it with this strange UE line. Squeezemenicely's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41812 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97925 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Julf wrote: > > (Numbering added by IG) > 1 Ripping CD's isn't going to be the dominating way to get your music > into your server any more - downloading and streaming are more > important, and in any case, you can't rip without keyboard and screen, > as CDDB data isn't 100% perfect. So acquiring content is best done on a > PC/Mac/whatever. > > 2 The server, with it's hard disk(s), is best placed away from your > music system. > > 3 The players ... you want several of them. > > 1. Irrespective of whether you rip or download at some point you need to (a) get the track registered with the database and (b) amend the meta-data (a lot of my music is classical so, believe, me, I know all about the inadequacies of CDDB-acquired meta-data!). So at present you do that on a "PC/Mac/whatever" and then, as a separate process, run a scanner to perform the data-acquisition in bulk, periodically rescanning and, as people with large collections complain about, waiting for that to happen. If you decide your metadata isn't right, edit it, rescan & wait. Why? Wouldn't it be better to have the rip/download functionality aware of the server D/B update it with each rip or download as it works? And wouldn't it be at least as effective to amend the D/B's version of the acquired metadata via the server's web interface and, if you wanted, then amend the embedded metadata in the track from that? 2. Why? 3. You only need players once you've got something to stream, unless you're relying entirely on streaming from the internet. FWIW I have a headless server built into one of the old Hiper cases which, sadly, are no longer made & getting rarer on eBay. This box was built to the dimensions & finish of a typical domestic audio or video appliance. I've fitted a fanless mini-ITX board & lap-top optical & hard drives. Sitting inside the cabinet with the rest of my kit it's inaudible. It's also headless. It can rip CDs automatically and management is done by web interfaces; the keyboard and screen are needed but they're just not directly attached to the server after initial setup. The latter isn't perfect because it isn't integrated with the LMS database. If the acquisition. metadata editing and file shuffling facilities were integrated with the server there'd be no need to have the latter scan anything unless I wanted a precaution against my logging in via SSH & moving things round behind the server's back but this could be handled by some sort of stock-taking scan could be backgrounded. igoddard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52055 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
2. noise, clutter, no interest in having a computer in the room (which is a big selling point for "networked" audio) 3. same as #2, many do not want/need/desire a big *box* in our AV rack or even in the same room IMO, keep the computer, server, storage, files, etc... completely away from my living room. I just need/want a player at my listening area. I already have several computers to rip & store music, I don't need another. :) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
toby10 wrote: > 2. noise, clutter, no interest in having a computer in the room (which > is a big selling point for "networked" audio) > > 3. same as #2, many do not want/need/desire a big *box* in our AV rack > or even in the same room > > IMO, keep the computer, server, storage, files, etc... completely away > from my living room. I just need/want a player at my listening area. I > already have several computers to rip & store music, I don't need > another. :) +1. That's why I use a headless server ( vortexbox) located in a back room closet. But *if* I wanted a ripper, file server, and player all in one box, the vortexbox already does all this. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
garym wrote: > +1. That's why I use a headless server ( vortexbox) located in a back > room closet. But *if* I wanted a ripper, file server, and player all in > one box, the vortexbox already does all this. > > Edit: but I'd definitely be interested in a player with a John Swenson > designed DAC. +1 why on earth would I want a server in the hifi rack , my server resides under my desk in another room . I'm on to for a player as guniea pig :) I'm quite tolerant re awkward setups and bugs .and I can follow instructions read electrical drawings and assemble stuff ,solder skills are a bit rusty never tried SMD components ,but solder some cables and put the thing in a box , no problem at all. I have an mobile eds kit so I would not have problems with components sensitive to static . ( I used to repair frequency converters and DC drives for a living ). It could run it as digital transport or analog in the kitchen or if a hdmi implementation is ready I could try out hdmi . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
If it's for fun, go ahead and recreate the wheel. But I say once more, the VAMP with a good USB DAC does exactly what this thread seems to want, with the exception of IR control (but why you'd even want that since it is IP controlled, I don't know) and does it for a lot less money than is being talked about. dyohn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5211 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
I must be missing something since this is such basic functionality: When I have a playlist and I want to quickly edit it (knock off some of the items), there must be a screen where each item in the list is selectable for deletion. How do I get there? ulvi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 remote stopped working
Any advice on debugging an SB2 remote that just stopped working? The remotes from my SB1 and Boom work on the SB2, have replaced batteries, but getting nothing with the SB2 remote. Will the case pop open without breaking anything if I pry at the seam? thanks Greg gregklanderman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3524 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97949 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
ulvi wrote: > I must be missing something since this is such basic functionality: > When I have a playlist and I want to quickly edit it (knock off some of > the > items), there must be a screen where each item in the list is > selectable > for deletion. How do I get there? You can't, it doesn't. There's no real extra playlist management beyond what the basic Jive support enables. db122's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 remote stopped working
I've never taken one apart, but I know a common failure on SB3 remotes is the connection to the IR LED. Usually fixable by reflowing the solder connection. I imagine the SB2 has the same remote. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97949 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB1 - Old School - But a sticky proposition
Going through some old boxes and came across this beauty. Many a happy hour of listening on this original SB1. I also remember upgrading this one to the higher resolution display back in the day. As you can see - it has 'gone sticky', like many of the others did. What is the cure for this? Or does anyone have a spare case for an SB1? It still works and has that lovely vintage sound (ah-hem...!) - would be great to get it back into circulation in the guest bedroom. Thoughts and suggestions welcome! +---+ |Filename: photo (1).jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14309| +---+ sebage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97952 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Triode wrote: > Sounding great to me John. Few questions: > > 1) Do we need Wifi could a usb dongle be used at lower cost? > 2) Assume we keep all flash on the SD/microSD to avoid the bricking case > (see above case) > 3) Are both usb ports on an internal hub or are they separate > controllers on the processor > 4) can you point me at the datasheet for the processor you are planning > on? I like the concept of the wifi module connecting via ethernet. The processor chip has two ethernet ports on an internal switch, the idea is that one goes to the outside world and the other goes to the wifi. As far as the processor and software is concerned the wifi is just another device on the network. You literally don't have to care whether something is coming from wired or wifi. The software just has to worry about a single ethernet connection. Any wifi setup issues are dealt with by browsing to the wifi web page, either through the wifi or wired port, so the firmware on the processor doesn't have to know anything about it. I just think it makes things so much simpler from a software perspective. Since I am thinking about configuration of the player be controlled by an internal web server, this can just link to the wifi module's web page. Since it is connected through a hardware switch, you can always get to the wifi configuration via a hardwired connection to the player. Each USB port has it's own separate controller, each of which can either be a device or host. The processor is a TI AM3358, the technical reference manual gives a lot of detail on the USB subsystem: http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruh73g/spruh73g.pdf John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: > > > The processor is a TI AM3358, the technical reference manual gives a lot > of detail on the USB subsystem: > http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruh73g/spruh73g.pdf > > John S. Its worth us looking into the usb subsystem seeing as it seems to be differnet from the ones I know work - its not ehci based from what I can see. I don't want us to have a Pi disaster on the usb ports... What we need to look for is positive use cases of linux iso code working with the musb usb controller. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Triode wrote: > Edit: is this the same chip John: > https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/issues/2 ?? (slightly > worried by that..) When I was asking around after I couldn't get the Pi working properly with UAC2, the BeagleBone was a device I was told to stay away from. JackOfAll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3069 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
It's nice to be able to go back to the drawing board before you even begin drawing. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JackOfAll wrote: > When I was asking around after I couldn't get the Pi working properly > with UAC2, the BeagleBone was a device I was told to stay away from. Following up my own post. Bad form, I know. I was also told by the same person that I wouldn't have a problem with either the BeagleBoard XM or the Pandaboard. Neither of which I have tried myself. Both of these use a USB3320 PHY for the host hub. JackOfAll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3069 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JackOfAll wrote: > Following up my own post. Bad form, I know. I was also told by the same > person that I wouldn't have a problem with either the BeagleBoard XM or > the Pandaboard. Neither of which I have tried myself. Both of these use > a USB3320 PHY for the host hub. The XM looks to have a AM3715 which has a dedicated usb host port using ehci - which would be preferable. (though I'm not saying we shoudl use this, just that I think a host only port using ehci is possibly preferable) Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Does crossfade work?
Hello, I have a squeezebox touch and a squeezebix duet. I tried enabling the crossfade effect in both systems, but they don't work/crossfade? I even went into the mysquezebox website to eanble the crossfade, it still didn't work. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks in advance tomasito's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97954 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Internet Radio Streaming Down?
Reported the problem to Logitech earlier today. Can stream any radio stations - not favorites, nothing. Tried on the classic, a touch and a SB Radio. Anyone else having this problem? Thanks ismarketing's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97955 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does crossfade work?
There may be a more technical term for it, but I have notice the same on my touch compared to my Transporter and SB3. I assume it has to do with the added GUI that brings up the album art, making the crossfade slower or not at all. Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97954 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does crossfade work?
Works fine for me when using my local LMS. Over the new year I had a Touch, SB2, and Duet Receiver synchronized and crossfading just fine. Of course, crossfade also works un-sync'd. How many seconds have you specified for the crossfade, and what type of crossfade? Note that if you choose "Smart Crossfade" then LMS will not crossfade consecutive tracks from the same album. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97954 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Triode wrote: > The XM looks to have a AM3715 which has a dedicated usb host port using > ehci - which would be preferable. (though I'm not saying we shoudl use > this, just that I think a host only port using ehci is possibly > preferable) I've spent all afternoon looking at this, what I can come up with is that the USB ports on the Am3358 are EHCI compatible when used in host mode. (hardware pins forcing host mode). There is a driver that works for this (OMAP_ehci). The problem seems to be with the musb driver which is the one specifically written to handle the OTG modes, which is what the kernels use since they detect what it actually is. This may be wrong since I haven't actually found anybody outright saying this, but from reading between the lines this is what seems to be happening. If this is true it might be possible to force the use of the ehci driver rather than the musb driver. There have also been reports that these issues only occur with newer kernels and that things were working with older kernels. The AM3715 was one of my top contenders, but it does not support DDR2 or DDR3 memory, only LPDDR, which has a memory speed about half of what you can get from DDR2. The memory chips are also quite a bit more expensive and larger than regular DDR2 memory chips. I've ordered a BeagleBone, it should be here this coming week sometime and I can actually play with it and actually see what happens with different kernels and DACs. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss