Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile

2013-07-09 Thread kipeta

Daphile is now available at www.daphile.com



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-07-09 Thread cadfish

TheLastMan wrote: 
>  ... Get a decently packaged working player out the door as soon as you
> can.  Concentrate on the streaming and DAC side and leave the rest for
> V2 or V3, if at all.
> 
> Just my 2p / 2c

+10

@John Swenson: Thanks for all your efforts.



Primary: LMS and media on Win7 PC, 4 SBT, 1 Duet, 2 Duet Controller, 2
iPods, 1 iPhone (iPeng), Sony XPeria,  Android Tablet (SqueezeControl,
OrangeSqueeze, SqueezeCommander) -- Secondary: Mobile Server based on
SqueezePlug on RaspBerry PI

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Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile

2013-07-09 Thread kipeta

erland wrote: 
> Don't feel obligated to answer this at the moment, feel free to answer
> via PM if you want to answer me now but don't want to post the answers
> in public yet.
> 
> Do I understand correctly that Daphile is an OS preconfigured to make a
> computer a headless music server ? Kind of similar to VortexBox ?
> 
I think the basic idea is pretty much the same.

erland wrote: 
> 
> Do you include the standard version of Squeezebox Server or have you
> patched/added anything to make it better ?
> 
> Which Squeezebox Server version will be included ?
> 
The test release included the server version 7.8.0-r1372135249 and I
have only couple of minor patches.

erland wrote: 
> 
> 
> Which Linux distribution is it based around ? (I'm assuming it's based
> on Linux?)
> 
It's based on Gentoo (if it can be said so). The basic idea is more like
an embedded image that is mostly built using Gentoo ebuilds. The whole
image is updated, not the single packages.

erland wrote: 
> 
> 
> Will it be a free or commercial product ?
> 
Currently I think that yes - to both. But I don't give any promises.

erland wrote: 
> 
> 
> I have the possibility to try it both in virtual machines, an old Intel
> laptop and I also have a Zbox AD04
> (http://www.zotacusa.com/zbox-ad04.html) which might be suitable as a
> test environment unless a CDROM is required for it to work.
> 
> Anyway, looking forward to see what you have accomplished.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform

2013-07-09 Thread pippin

It's not so much the question of "power" of an App. The issue is: if you
want to run something in a web browser you need a web server.
With the Squeezeboxes, that's not a problem, they are always being
controlled through a server anyway.

But on ickStream there is no central server that needs to be always on
and that the player is always connected to so it's much more difficult
to do a web controller.

We do want to eventually have this and have some ideas about how it can
be done, but for now Apps are simply the more simple solution :)

BTW: we do NOT plan to limit this to iOS or Android. In fact we'll have
an openly published API so everyone can write a controller for any
platform. We just started with iOS because that was the easiest thing
for us to implement.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform

2013-07-09 Thread PasTim

>From this forum, the newsletter and the survey I see quite a lot of
emphasis on the type of device used as a controller, and, if I have
understood correctly,  mention that only i-devices are currently
supported.

If you haven't included this already can I suggest a controller that
works in any standard browser?  I would imagine that would provide a
least some facilities for most laptop/tablet controllers, although
smartphones might be restricted by screen size.  This method also
provides a degree of future-proofing not available from i-anything or
Android apps.   I do understand that if you need the power of an 'app'
then this may not be feasible, but it would suit me, and maybe others, a
lot better.



LMS 7.8 on VortexBox Midi, FLACs 16 or 24 bit. Touch on Ethernet (in
another room), digital out to a Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC. Old wireless
laptop running Linux Mint Debian controls server using Chromium. 
Squeezelite on Ubuntu & Windows desktops plus the laptop.  Meridian
Explorer USB DAC to listen directly to Vortexbox & other PCs as
required.  Spare Touch in loft!

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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-07-09 Thread TheLastMan

P Nelson wrote: 
> 
> As a project manager, I set my goals and scope early.  I then ask if the
> requested change is scope creep.  Is the Sata connector or other recent
> requests scope creep?
> 
Others have answered your substantive points, but I totally agree with
the above point.  In any "project" based business "scope creep" or
"mission creep" is the biggest danger. Set your goals early and tight
and stick to them.  Try to make sure that any product does not try to be
"all things to all men", that is an impossible goal.

It is important that a product is produced in a reasonable time, even if
it is limited in some ways, otherwise your potential customers will just
give up waiting make a compromise and go elsewhere.  A simple streamer /
DAC replacement for the SqueezeBox players *now* (or at least very soon)
is better than any all singing all dancing player, server, DAC with
HDMI, SATA, USB3 etc etc that only exists on paper and where the product
is being pushed further and further into the future.

Standing back and watching this thread it does seem to be suffering
somewhat from mission creep.  Certainly there are lots of demands coming
in from users with a special interest or requirements.  Luckily JS seems
to have the insight to reject requests when they become onerous such as
the multi-function LED idea.

If I were JS and team I would stick to the Slim Client idea, don't get
sidetracked into SATA implementation, server functions or balanced
outputs.  Get a decently packaged working player out the door as soon as
you can.  Concentrate on the streaming and DAC side and leave the rest
for V2 or V3, if at all.

Just my 2p / 2c



Matt
http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK
*SqueezeBoxes:* Two SB Duets (Living room and kitchen)
*Server:* Synology DS111 (2TB) NAS running LMS 7.7.2
*Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH
access point
*Livingroom:* Receiver, Naim 42/110 amp, B&W CM2 speakers
*Kitchen:* Receiver, Topping TP20 Mk2 Class T amp, B&W 686 speakers
*Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline.

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Re: [slim] New Squeezebox Classic For Sale (UK)

2013-07-09 Thread aspendl828

I paid £179 for mine from PC World - about 5 years ago, though.



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Boom
Radio

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Re: [slim] New Squeezebox Classic For Sale (UK)

2013-07-09 Thread ScottRennie

aspendl828 wrote: 
> Squeezebox Classics now popped up on Amazon UK.  Currently 8 available.
> 
> 
> Stated as being Brand New but £209..

How much were they when they were still in the shops - I can't remember?



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Re: [slim] New Squeezebox Classic For Sale (UK)

2013-07-09 Thread aspendl828

Squeezebox Classics now popped up on Amazon UK.  Currently 8 available.


Stated as being Brand New but £209..



Squeezebox Plus, Naim nDAC, NAC202, NAP200, Focal Cobalt 816.
Boom
Radio

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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform

2013-07-09 Thread avh

erland wrote: 
> Which operating system/hardware are you using LMS on ?
> 
> 
> Thanks for the offer, unfortunately the remote control application which
> is used for testing only works on iOS devices at this stage, we will
> keep you in mind when we have made one for Android. If you haven't done
> it already, it's a good idea to register your interest as beta tester on
> our web site (http://www.ickstream.com).

Hello Erland,

At the moment I use LMS both on Windows 7 professional and on Windows 8
pro.
I have already registered as tester (and developer) on your site last
weekend.

Thanks for the newsletter of yesterday. Sounds all very exciting.

Toine



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-07-09 Thread cliveb

P Nelson wrote: 
> I am going to disagree here.  Sonos or Olive One fills the gap left by
> Logitech, but it does not have the flexibility of the squeezebox system
> and LMS software.
If Sonos and Olive do not have the flexibility of Squeezebox+LMS, how
are they filling the gap?

P Nelson wrote: 
> I want a self contained system to make it simple.
A perfectly reasonable wish. But not one that fits with the fundamental
Squeezebox model - that of a thin client player streaming its data from
a central server. (The Touch was a bit of a schizoid device and muddied
the waters. I for one think that including TinySBS on the Touch was a
mistake, indicative of Logitech's fundamental lack of understanding of
the Slim Devices vision).

Let's recap: if Logitech hadn't pulled out of this business, The
SWAMP/CSP probably would not have been developed. It's a replacement for
the Logiech hardware players, which (with the exception of Touch) were
not self-contained.

P Nelson wrote: 
> It terms of connections or capabilities, perhaps it is time for a poll
> so preferences can be documented.   I know the balanced connections was
> of interest by a limited number of people, however, that interest may be
> from those designing and developing the hardware and software, so i
> understand if those features are included despite limited interest.
I believe I was the first person to request balanced output, but plenty
of others have supported that wish. Based on John's claims for how good
the DAC is going to be, the CSP isn't just a SB Classic/Touch
replacement, it's going to be good enough (as a player) to be a
Transporter replacement (albeit without the digital inputs). And as such
it deserves - nay, *requires* - balanced outputs.

P Nelson wrote: 
> The question of who this box is for needs to be answered.
That's an easy one. It's for the sort of person who would have bought SB
Classic/Touch/Transporter to connect to their central LMS.
(MySqueezebox.com is going to disappear sooner or later, so that's not
really relevant).

If the guys developing it can include enough flexibility that it can
also run LMS and have an attached hard drive, so much the better. If
this does come to pass, it can then become the self-contained device you
want. But it absolutely must not ever be *only* such a self-contained
device.



Transporter -> ATC SCM100A

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