Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile
Daphile is now available at www.daphile.com kipeta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
TheLastMan wrote: > ... Get a decently packaged working player out the door as soon as you > can. Concentrate on the streaming and DAC side and leave the rest for > V2 or V3, if at all. > > Just my 2p / 2c +10 @John Swenson: Thanks for all your efforts. Primary: LMS and media on Win7 PC, 4 SBT, 1 Duet, 2 Duet Controller, 2 iPods, 1 iPhone (iPeng), Sony XPeria, Android Tablet (SqueezeControl, OrangeSqueeze, SqueezeCommander) -- Secondary: Mobile Server based on SqueezePlug on RaspBerry PI cadfish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58296 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile
erland wrote: > Don't feel obligated to answer this at the moment, feel free to answer > via PM if you want to answer me now but don't want to post the answers > in public yet. > > Do I understand correctly that Daphile is an OS preconfigured to make a > computer a headless music server ? Kind of similar to VortexBox ? > I think the basic idea is pretty much the same. erland wrote: > > Do you include the standard version of Squeezebox Server or have you > patched/added anything to make it better ? > > Which Squeezebox Server version will be included ? > The test release included the server version 7.8.0-r1372135249 and I have only couple of minor patches. erland wrote: > > > Which Linux distribution is it based around ? (I'm assuming it's based > on Linux?) > It's based on Gentoo (if it can be said so). The basic idea is more like an embedded image that is mostly built using Gentoo ebuilds. The whole image is updated, not the single packages. erland wrote: > > > Will it be a free or commercial product ? > Currently I think that yes - to both. But I don't give any promises. erland wrote: > > > I have the possibility to try it both in virtual machines, an old Intel > laptop and I also have a Zbox AD04 > (http://www.zotacusa.com/zbox-ad04.html) which might be suitable as a > test environment unless a CDROM is required for it to work. > > Anyway, looking forward to see what you have accomplished. kipeta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform
It's not so much the question of "power" of an App. The issue is: if you want to run something in a web browser you need a web server. With the Squeezeboxes, that's not a problem, they are always being controlled through a server anyway. But on ickStream there is no central server that needs to be always on and that the player is always connected to so it's much more difficult to do a web controller. We do want to eventually have this and have some ideas about how it can be done, but for now Apps are simply the more simple solution :) BTW: we do NOT plan to limit this to iOS or Android. In fact we'll have an openly published API so everyone can write a controller for any platform. We just started with iOS because that was the easiest thing for us to implement. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and *New: Logitech UE Smart Radio* as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform
>From this forum, the newsletter and the survey I see quite a lot of emphasis on the type of device used as a controller, and, if I have understood correctly, mention that only i-devices are currently supported. If you haven't included this already can I suggest a controller that works in any standard browser? I would imagine that would provide a least some facilities for most laptop/tablet controllers, although smartphones might be restricted by screen size. This method also provides a degree of future-proofing not available from i-anything or Android apps. I do understand that if you need the power of an 'app' then this may not be feasible, but it would suit me, and maybe others, a lot better. LMS 7.8 on VortexBox Midi, FLACs 16 or 24 bit. Touch on Ethernet (in another room), digital out to a Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC. Old wireless laptop running Linux Mint Debian controls server using Chromium. Squeezelite on Ubuntu & Windows desktops plus the laptop. Meridian Explorer USB DAC to listen directly to Vortexbox & other PCs as required. Spare Touch in loft! PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
P Nelson wrote: > > As a project manager, I set my goals and scope early. I then ask if the > requested change is scope creep. Is the Sata connector or other recent > requests scope creep? > Others have answered your substantive points, but I totally agree with the above point. In any "project" based business "scope creep" or "mission creep" is the biggest danger. Set your goals early and tight and stick to them. Try to make sure that any product does not try to be "all things to all men", that is an impossible goal. It is important that a product is produced in a reasonable time, even if it is limited in some ways, otherwise your potential customers will just give up waiting make a compromise and go elsewhere. A simple streamer / DAC replacement for the SqueezeBox players *now* (or at least very soon) is better than any all singing all dancing player, server, DAC with HDMI, SATA, USB3 etc etc that only exists on paper and where the product is being pushed further and further into the future. Standing back and watching this thread it does seem to be suffering somewhat from mission creep. Certainly there are lots of demands coming in from users with a special interest or requirements. Luckily JS seems to have the insight to reject requests when they become onerous such as the multi-function LED idea. If I were JS and team I would stick to the Slim Client idea, don't get sidetracked into SATA implementation, server functions or balanced outputs. Get a decently packaged working player out the door as soon as you can. Concentrate on the streaming and DAC side and leave the rest for V2 or V3, if at all. Just my 2p / 2c Matt http://www.last.fm/user/MJL-UK *SqueezeBoxes:* Two SB Duets (Living room and kitchen) *Server:* Synology DS111 (2TB) NAS running LMS 7.7.2 *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH access point *Livingroom:* Receiver, Naim 42/110 amp, B&W CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver, Topping TP20 Mk2 Class T amp, B&W 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Squeezebox Classic For Sale (UK)
I paid £179 for mine from PC World - about 5 years ago, though. Squeezebox Plus, Naim nDAC, NAC202, NAP200, Focal Cobalt 816. Boom Radio aspendl828's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99098 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Squeezebox Classic For Sale (UK)
aspendl828 wrote: > Squeezebox Classics now popped up on Amazon UK. Currently 8 available. > > > Stated as being Brand New but £209.. How much were they when they were still in the shops - I can't remember? ScottRennie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29649 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99098 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Squeezebox Classic For Sale (UK)
Squeezebox Classics now popped up on Amazon UK. Currently 8 available. Stated as being Brand New but £209.. Squeezebox Plus, Naim nDAC, NAC202, NAP200, Focal Cobalt 816. Boom Radio aspendl828's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99098 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform
erland wrote: > Which operating system/hardware are you using LMS on ? > > > Thanks for the offer, unfortunately the remote control application which > is used for testing only works on iOS devices at this stage, we will > keep you in mind when we have made one for Android. If you haven't done > it already, it's a good idea to register your interest as beta tester on > our web site (http://www.ickstream.com). Hello Erland, At the moment I use LMS both on Windows 7 professional and on Windows 8 pro. I have already registered as tester (and developer) on your site last weekend. Thanks for the newsletter of yesterday. Sounds all very exciting. Toine avh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
P Nelson wrote: > I am going to disagree here. Sonos or Olive One fills the gap left by > Logitech, but it does not have the flexibility of the squeezebox system > and LMS software. If Sonos and Olive do not have the flexibility of Squeezebox+LMS, how are they filling the gap? P Nelson wrote: > I want a self contained system to make it simple. A perfectly reasonable wish. But not one that fits with the fundamental Squeezebox model - that of a thin client player streaming its data from a central server. (The Touch was a bit of a schizoid device and muddied the waters. I for one think that including TinySBS on the Touch was a mistake, indicative of Logitech's fundamental lack of understanding of the Slim Devices vision). Let's recap: if Logitech hadn't pulled out of this business, The SWAMP/CSP probably would not have been developed. It's a replacement for the Logiech hardware players, which (with the exception of Touch) were not self-contained. P Nelson wrote: > It terms of connections or capabilities, perhaps it is time for a poll > so preferences can be documented. I know the balanced connections was > of interest by a limited number of people, however, that interest may be > from those designing and developing the hardware and software, so i > understand if those features are included despite limited interest. I believe I was the first person to request balanced output, but plenty of others have supported that wish. Based on John's claims for how good the DAC is going to be, the CSP isn't just a SB Classic/Touch replacement, it's going to be good enough (as a player) to be a Transporter replacement (albeit without the digital inputs). And as such it deserves - nay, *requires* - balanced outputs. P Nelson wrote: > The question of who this box is for needs to be answered. That's an easy one. It's for the sort of person who would have bought SB Classic/Touch/Transporter to connect to their central LMS. (MySqueezebox.com is going to disappear sooner or later, so that's not really relevant). If the guys developing it can include enough flexibility that it can also run LMS and have an attached hard drive, so much the better. If this does come to pass, it can then become the self-contained device you want. But it absolutely must not ever be *only* such a self-contained device. Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss