Re: [slim] Classic FM [UK] - connects at 128, drops to 48

2016-03-25 Thread frozzers

Atlantic wrote: 
> Just listening to Classic FM's Easter weekend broadcast - they have a
> 'Top 300' sequence where they play the various pieces that were offered
> as favourites by listeners.  'Hall of Fame', is the broadcast; it runs
> for 4 days.  Anyway, the problem I'm getting is that the link I use
> connects at 128kbps CBR then immediately drops to 48kbps CBR.  SB Touch
> is the device, using in-building SBS.  Touch is over WiFi, SBS is wired,
> fixed IPs everywhere.
> 
> The broadband downlink is running at 1.5 Mbps, up at around 448 kbps, so
> there isn't an (obvious) transmission problem.  May ask about how other
> folks are connecting to Classic FM in UK?
> 
> We're not using the Classic FM plug-in, because it's never seemed to
> work for us.  The connection we're using is:
> 
> 1  Select 'Internet Radio' 
> 2  Select 'Search'
> 3  Enter 'classic fm'
> 4  Click on the top search result.  (Connects at 128k but immediately
> drops to 48k)
> 
> I'm wondering if I'm using an incorrect link.  How do others connect to
> Classic FM, and is anybody getting Classic FM at 128?
> 
> Grateful to hear of the correct link.  
> 
> regards, Atlantic
You can listen to it via TuneIn Radio.

If you haven't already got TuneIn Radio you can get it through App
Gallery in MySqueezebox.com.

Just search 'Classic FM' in TuneIn and it's available (and stays) at
128kbps CBR.

Chris



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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet

Yes, but the receiver can't output two sources simultaneously. Would
need a mixer.. 

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[slim] Classic FM [UK] - connects at 128, drops to 48

2016-03-25 Thread Atlantic

Just listening to Classic FM's Easter weekend broadcast - they have a
'Top 300' sequence where they play the various pieces that were offered
as favourites by listeners.  'Hall of Fame', is the broadcast; it runs
for 4 days.  Anyway, the problem I'm getting is that the link I use
connects at 128kbps CBR then immediately drops to 48kbps CBR.  SB Touch
is the device, using in-building SBS.  Touch is over WiFi, SBS is wired,
fixed IPs everywhere.

The broadband downlink is running at 1.5 Mbps, up at around 448 kbps, so
there isn't an (obvious) transmission problem.  May ask about how other
folks are connecting to Classic FM in UK?

We're not using the Classic FM plug-in, because it's never seemed to
work for us.  The connection we're using is:

1  Select 'Internet Radio' 
2  Select 'Search'
3  Enter 'classic fm'
4  Click on the top search result.  (Connects at 128k but immediately
drops to 48k)

I'm wondering if I'm using an incorrect link.  How do others connect to
Classic FM, and is anybody getting Classic FM at 128?

Grateful to hear of the correct link.  

regards, Atlantic



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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa

mrMuppet wrote: 
> But I can't use analog and digital at the same time 

Why not ? When ply music on my Touch the analog and digital output both
work and output the same audio simultaneously.



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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet

I will try it on Tuesday (because I don't own these mics). 
But I can't use analog and digital at the same time so I can't measure
the delay between. I will have to measure the difference between the
radio and both different touch modes (analog and digital). 

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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa

I'd like to simplify the test setup.

Do you "see" this fluctuation by using both the analog and digital
output of Touch and touch not synced.

Can you play audio on Touch (not synced with Radio)  - audio on Touch
Analog output and through AVR using Touch Digital output and then use
your mics to measure difference and is it always constant ?

Make sure Player/Audio setting for "Audio startup time" is zero.



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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet

Sorry. I don't wanted to criticize your help. I am happy that you offer
me that help!
I was using the exact default settings for the last three years (before
that I used an analog receiver without sync problems) . With the new avr
Audio digital has had a big delay, analog a smaller delay and if I
changed the av-receicer to pure-direct mode it was not perfect but ok.
But I can not use Subwoofer in pure mode. So I decided to measure the
delay with with two microphones an a digital recorder. I changed only
the delay on the touch.  All other settings are default. 

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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa

mrMuppet wrote: 
> That's not the problem. I already checked the perfect delay time: 69 and
> 178ms. But it changes from time to time which value is the perfect
> match. That change of the value is what I would like to stop. 

YOu have already decided where the problem is.  I need to confirm that,
If you don't answer my questions I cannot help you.



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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet

That's not the problem. I already checked the perfect delay time: 69 and
178ms. But it changes from time to time which value is the perfect
match. That change of the value is what I would like to stop. 

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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa

mrMuppet wrote: 
> It is not in sync if I set the delay to zero. But I don't know if it
> changes the delay like it does in digital mode. 

You may have messed up LMS sync by changing various setting. Use default
LMS sync settings for both players  ( 0 start delay, 0 audio delay, 10ms
sync adjust, 2ms network packet latency),  restart LMS and then check is
RAdio audio is in sync with Touch audio from analog output.



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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet

It is not in sync if I set the delay to zero. But I don't know if it
changes the delay like it does in digital mode. 

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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa

mrMuppet wrote: 
> Touch is connected via optical out. Avr is always in the same settings
> (via preset) 
> 
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To get ahandle on the issue you need to narrow down where the problem
lies.  So I am asking you to do a test:

Is radio audio synced with audio from Touch when using Touch analog
output ?



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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet

Touch is connected via optical out. Avr is always in the same settings
(via preset) 

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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread bpa

mrMuppet wrote: 
> How can i find out?

Enable player.sync logging.



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Re: [slim] Constantly first 1-2 sec. of a song asyncronous on radio

2016-03-25 Thread mrMuppet

After some days: The Sync-delay is changing nearly everyday: its always
137ms or 69ms. but i can't find out why it is changing. 

Do you have any idea why its doing it? How can i find out?



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