Re: [slim] ickStream Shutdown
Thanks, pippin, as always, for sharing your insight, and supporting this community. owner of the stuff at https://tuxreborn.netlify.com/ (which used to reside at www.tux.org/~peterw/) Note: The best way to reach me is email or PM, as I don't spend much time on the forums. *Free plugins:* AllQuiet Auto Dim/AutoDisplay BlankSaver ContextMenu DenonSerial FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ickStream Shutdown
peterw wrote: > I disagree. Plenty of companies - from giants like Google to small > outfits like Schedules Direct, fully publish APIs but rely on individual > customers to pay for API keys or other authentication credentials. > All of these companies are masters of their own fate. Music streaming services usually aren't. They have agreements with rights owners about how they have to secure content and most of these tend to be on the more ridiculous side of things. When we started ickStream, I too though this would somehow be about technology The issue is not so much the authentication credential - that's done through the user account. The problem is having an API key open to the public. I'm not aware of anyone allowing this if there is one. There are a lot of cases here where it's done, but most of them (like the YouTube plugin etc.) essentially violate some T&Cs. Of course, you COULD handle this but it requires user action. The user would have to get an API key/authenticate etc. and these APIs are meant for vendors, not users. > > Unfortunately true. I see a big split in business models. I hope > all will migrate to the latter model... It's not a deliberate choice in this case. And migrating to something that makes sense is usually not an option. Spotify has had some success in designing something that is both kind of open and works for them and getting that pushed down the throat of rights owners but overall this process has taken them s many years --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ickStream Shutdown
pippin wrote: > The problem is that with an open source server, if they support an open > plugin, the services essentially have to give away an API key to the > public. I disagree. Plenty of companies - from giants like Google to small outfits like Schedules Direct, fully publish APIs but rely on individual customers to pay for API keys or other authentication credentials. pippin wrote: > In addition to this, some services keep their API secret and require an > NDA, in this case you can't distribute the code at all. Unfortunately true. I see a big split in business models. On the one side, outfits that guard APIs behind armies of sales teams vying for big dollar contacts; on the other, outfits like Amazon Web Services that will accept pretty much anybody with a credit card and are plenty willing to serve tiny customers like me who are billed only fractions of a dollar each month. I hope all will migrate to the latter model... owner of the stuff at https://tuxreborn.netlify.com/ (which used to reside at www.tux.org/~peterw/) Note: The best way to reach me is email or PM, as I don't spend much time on the forums. *Free plugins:* AllQuiet Auto Dim/AutoDisplay BlankSaver ContextMenu DenonSerial FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] IMPORTANT: Stop forwarding your LMS ports to the internet!
mherger wrote: > > > And then there's that undocumented pref you can set to disable the check > > in such an exceptional case. > > So how to disable this check? I didn't find the answer! I want to disable it. Where is that pref, what should i do to disable it? fominator's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69103 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107165 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
d6jg wrote: > NB a coaxial cable is essentially a single RCA to single RCA but the > cable quality is much higher (needed) than an analogue cable. "needed"? I've been using a cheap, old one meter RCA analog cable from an SB3 to a Denon AVR digital input for about eight years, never had a problem. I think it might even just be one side of a stereo cable pair, as most of my single RCA cables have bright colored insulation and would not pass WAF muster. owner of the stuff at https://tuxreborn.netlify.com/ (which used to reside at www.tux.org/~peterw/) Note: The best way to reach me is email or PM, as I don't spend much time on the forums. *Free plugins:* AllQuiet Auto Dim/AutoDisplay BlankSaver ContextMenu DenonSerial FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 to a Denon PMA-30
The SB3 has analogue (as you know) and both optical and coaxial digital outputs and they are all live so you could connect to the Denon with both optical and coaxial and see which you think sounds best. NB a coaxial cable is essentially a single RCA to single RCA but the cable quality is much higher (needed) than an analogue cable. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110489 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Jivelite for Windows
ralphy wrote: > Jivelite for windows is currently using a different version of lua > (luajit 2.0) that is not 100% compatible with most applets written for > the touch and radio. > > I'm currently in the process of moving my jivelite builds to use the > same version as the touch and radio to prevent these problems in the > future. > > The latest 'Jivelite for OSX' > (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/jivelite/osx/) > Jivelite-x86_64-lua-0.1.0r189.dmg should work with Custom Clock. Sweet, looking forward for the updated win.version later then. Will give it a go with the OSX version. Cheers Ralphy! doggod's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46431 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Jivelite for Windows
doggod wrote: > Anyone knows how to get Erlands "CustomClock" to work with Jivelite for > Windows? > Installed it the "normal way" within the Jivelite GUI but it doesn't > work. I get the menus in the GUI but it's not possible to do any configs > whatsoever. > > Tried on LMS : 7.9.2 - 1537023265, Windows 7x64 and > jivelite-0.1r187-win32 = no go with jivelite. I've CustomClock up and > running with Squeezeplayer on same system. > > Read this whole thread : > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?105083-Custom-Clock-for-Jivelite-with-800x480-Screen. > But it didn't give me any understandable answers. Tried the manual > download(install described there, but also no go. > Found and read this whole thread also, but it doesn't give me much clue > other than I've the same problem. Maybe tells someone more clever than > me what might be going on? : > > https://www.max2play.com/en/forums/topic/cant-get-custom-clock-app-to-work/ > > > Know it's not the right place to ask, but; anyone know if the Mac OSX > jivelite version works with Custom Clock? Jivelite for windows is currently using a different version of lua (luajit 2.0) that is not 100% compatible with most applets written for the touch and radio. I'm currently in the process of moving my jivelite builds to use the same version as the touch and radio to prevent these problems in the future. The latest 'Jivelite for OSX' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/jivelite/osx/) Jivelite-x86_64-lua-0.1.0r189.dmg should work with Custom Clock. Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *1*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations&business=LL5P6365KQEXN&lc=CA&item_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds¤cy_code=USD&bn=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ickStream Shutdown
didjean wrote: > > I understand the structure of Deezer/Tidal API is different than the one > of Qobuz and needs the framework of a platform to integrated? The problem is that with an open source server, if they support an open plugin, the services essentially have to give away an API key to the public. What that means for them is, if somebody does something they deem critical with that key, the only option they have is to revoke the key and that means they shut down the service for all their users of the whole platform. Everybody then would have to update the server or plugin, a lot of people probably wouldn't even understand what's happening. With setups like MySB or ickStream, even if things go awry, they can easily change the key together with the operator because it's only being used in a single place, not on tens of thousands of machines. In addition to this, some services keep their API secret and require an NDA, in this case you can't distribute the code at all. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is it time to abandon my Squeezebox Classics?
i bet joe (From joe's blog https://joes-tech-blog.blogspot.com/2018/11/logitech-slimdevices-squeezebox-classic.html) would be interested. This guy lives in germany and repairs all kind of squeezeboxes. *SqueezeBoxes:* 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's *Server:* LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21 *Network:* AVM Fritzbox, Netgear Smart Switch 24p, 3x Ubiquity edwin2006's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is it time to abandon my Squeezebox Classics?
philippe_44 wrote: > If you are in NAM, I fix these as a hobby b/c I want to help the LMS > ecosystem to stay alive as long as possible. Just send it to me I assume NAM means North America? Thanks, but unfortunately, Im living in Europe. Is there a forum for region-based "adoption offers" for old Squeezeboxes? It has been well taken care of (VFDs disabled when not actually playing to prevent burn-in), and I agree it would be a shame to just throw it out. Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk pputzer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110260 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
